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    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    Five complete, previously unreleased performances on 17CDs
    Des Moines, IA 5/13/73
    Santa Barbara, CA 5/20/73
    San Francisco, CA 5/26/73
    Washington, D.C. 6/9/73
    Washington, D.C. 6/10/73
    Recorded by Kidd Candelario, Betty Cantor-Jackson, and Owsley Stanley
    Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
    Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
    Liners featuring notes from Canadian author, Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and Legacy Manager and Audio Archivist, David Lemieux
    Art and Design by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director, Masaki Koike
    Custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer
     
    Limited Edition Individually Numbered To 10,000 
    Exclusively At Dead.net
     
    "There’s the simple fact that the band members were old enough and experienced enough by now to be virtuosos on their instruments (what other group—rock or jazz or any other kind of music—could boast a trio of spectacularly singular talents such as Garcia, Lesh, and Weir?) but were still young enough to want to play and play and play some more, the happy, itchy inclination of youth. As a few of the shows in the Here Comes Sunshine boxed set attest, it wasn’t unusual for a 1973 concert to exceed four hours. And within the shows themselves, there are nearly nightly examples of hour-long orgies of tune-linked songcraft and juicy jamming." - Ray Robertson, HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 Liners
     
    8 years in and the Grateful Dead are a little bit of everything to everyone. They are putting up textures and tones of rock, of jazz, of country, with set-morphing vibes and long stretches of improvisations that are completely keyed into the sum of their parts. Keith Godchaux is here with his cascading notes. Donna Jean too. Both finding their footing and keeping things steady in the wake of Pigpen's unfillable gap. The spring of 1973 feels transformative for the Dead - no more so than the May and early June shows, complementary yet remarkably different, soon-to-be cornerstones of everyone's tape collections, and now, 50 years later, set to be part of the band's official canon.
     
    HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 is a limited-edition, 17CD boxed set with five previously unreleased, highly sought-after Dead shows, including: Iowa State Fairgrounds, Des Moines, IA (5/13/73), Campus Stadium, UCSB, Santa Barbara, CA (5/20/73), Kezar Stadium, San Francisco, CA (5/26/73), and Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium, Washington, D.C. (6/9/73) and (6/10/73).
     
    During the spring, the band road-tested most of the songs they would record that summer for WAKE OF THE FLOOD – their first studio album in three years – including early live versions of “Mississippi Half-Step Toodeloo,” “Row Jimmy,” “Stella Blue,” “Eyes Of The World,” and, the set’s namesake, “Here Comes Sunshine.” Also tucked into the collection are songs destined for the Dead’s 1974 studio album, FROM THE MARS HOTEL – “China Doll,” “Loose Lucy,” and “Wave That Flag,” a precursor to “U.S. Blues.”
     
    The new repertoire slipped neatly into the fluid setlists alongside songs honed on the 1972 European tour (“Jack Straw,” “Tennessee Jed,” “Brown-Eyed Women”), Chuck Berry perennials (“Promised Land,” “Around And Around”), classic country (“Big River,” “The Race Is On”), and incredible jam sequences: “He’s Gone”> “Truckin’”> “The Other One”> “Eyes Of The World.”
     
    Due June 30th, the individually-numbered, limited-edition 17CD set features vibrant graphics and custom-designed folios by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director Masaki Koike, a custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer, and liner notes by Canadian author Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and David Lemieux. And, of course, it features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.
     
    Digital convert? We've got you covered too. On the very same day you can collect your hi-definition download.

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  • #611
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    More or less decided to leave the analog system alone.
    Likely go to a separate 5.1 A/V receiver dedicated to some new old speakers.
    There is great stuff available for next to nothing as folks upgrade their systems.
    Have some very reliable vendor/techs I trust too.
    Esta todo bien.
    Cheers and thanks again

  • #612
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    Let me know what gear your trying to integrate and I can look it up and make suggestions if you like?

  • #613
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    That discussion helped me figure some things out too.
    Vaguely thinking about having the TV sound through the big system.
    You are The Man on this subject. Don't need an electrician.
    Cheers and thanks!

  • #614
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    Hey amigo,
    Sorry for being so tardy, been busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest.
    I did look up your amp and it’s an integrated analog only unit. The “integrated”means it’s has both the pre amp section, and the power amp section all in one box. From looking at the back of the unit from a photo of one for sale, it appears it’s analog only. Sorry I just haven’t had time to look up specs etc.
    I’m wondering now what make and model tv you have? I’m guessing they were trying to back feed the audio from the tv to your integrated amp. Depending on years and models etc, that could be via an analog out of the tv, or optical, which is a digital connection. Like most things, to maximize profits, analog connections are often going away…

    Since your amp is all analog, it does not have a a digital section or DAC (digital to analog converter) so i would think it would have to be the former: your amp cannot connect directly to a digital source, unless it has its own DAC, which is what your CD player is doing. This is why they commented on age of the unit, not because it’s no longer usable!

    The tech probably just had to adjust some audio settings in the TV in order to output analog audio back to your amp.
    I’m not sure why they didn’t just follow suite with your cable box and Blu-ray player and run analog out of those units and into your amp like your CD player? Perhaps sync/delay issues? Sometimes the audio and video can get slightly out of sync when utilizing different paths depending on electronics?
    The switching would be an extra step but the sound would probably be better, (as long as no sync issues) though perhaps your cable or Sat box doesn’t have any analog outs. It’s unfortunately becoming more common to only have an HDMI video output?
    A increasingly more common approach to a basic TV set up is to run your sources into the tv via HDMI, and back feed audio via ARC (audio return channel via HDMI) but that requires a tv and receiver or integrated amp that supports it. This is mostly for cost and convenience so you only have to switch TV inputs and have all the video audio on one input channel of your amp. But I could walk you through wiring your video source audio direct to your amp if your interested, and depending on what kind of outputs your sources have: HDMI only or with something else i.e., optical, coax, or analog etc.
    To find out, just look at the back of your Cable or Sat box and your Blu-ray player: outputs should be labeled, but if not, you can tell by looking. RCA analog connections are what’s on the back of your integrated amp. If you see some that look like these your all set. If besides HDMI there is only optical or coax, your out of luck (digital coax is usually an orange color, at least in the states? Analog RCA are usually Red for right, and white for left). Many will only have HDMI.

    The good news is I don’t see any reason why you need to upgrade your amp if you like it and don’t want to!
    Perhaps the next best upgrade you could make if you kept the amp, would be to get an asynchronous DAC.
    That way you could utilize all your digital connections on your various digital sources, routing them into the DAC for conversion, with just one analog out of the DAC to your amp. You’d leave the amp on the same input (except turntable which being analog already would still go to directly the amps phono stage (though you could upgrade to a separate one of those also). You would do the switching of sources on the DAC instead of the amp.
    But you don’t have to do this, it would just be a nice upgrade as the DAC chip sets in most things are cheap garbage, especially TVs!! Your CD players DAC is probably at least decent?
    Right now, it sounds like your video sources are being converted in your tv, no bueno!
    The DACs they use in TVs and computers, and most lower cost electronics cost less than a dollar, a good separate DAC can range from a hundred dollars up to a hundred grand, so obviously something made to do a specific job should be an improvement over doing it the cheapest way possible…
    Another option if you do think about replacing the amp is to get a new integrated amp with digital inputs, though they might not do HDMI. Some now are utilizing the ARC technology I mentioned above. A good integrated should have a decent DAC so you could use whatever digital output your tv has to back feed from tv to the DAC, or run separate audio from the source to the DAC, and video to the tv, leaving the cheap tv electronics out of the audio chain.

    Similar, and most convenient would be a new AVR or Audio Video receiver. These usually have HDMI and analog inputs so you can run all your video sources into it with one HDMI video out to your Telly. You could run your CD digital or analog to it depending on the AVRs capabilities and preferences. You would have to make sure it has the correct phono stage for your turntable, or get a separate phono stage. AVRs, unless super high end, are usually not going to have as good components/electronics as a good integrated amp, or perhaps even a good DAC with your existing amp? Their designed for switching, convenience, a Jack of all trades but master of none if you will.
    Also, their more for surround sound etc, and I believe you have 2 channel so it would probably be money better spent on gear tailored more for your needs…but it’s a viable option…

    LOL, Yes, I wish I did live down the street, after I tweeked your system, we could go have a pint and play verbal tennis about our favorite bands etc. AND, I have a pre-pro that’d I could sell ya cheap that would probably solve your issues, Dooaahh!

    Still not quite sure what they ment about your amp effecting your CDs/player? It makes no sense?
    I have seen units that might have some brief latency between the audio and display, but that has nothing to do with what it’s connected to. I’m not sure of any audio gear that depends on everything in the chain “talking” to each other, only HDMI. Though not common there theoretically could be an all HDMI audio chain, but even then I’m not sure there’d be the same “handshake” issues that occur with HDMI video?

    Ok, sorry, that’s too much at once I suspect?
    Get me more intel and I’ll follow up with you.
    - what make/model TV do you have!
    - list all your video sources?
    - what kind of outputs does your Cable or Sat box, or other video sources have? (Please see above for instructions)
    - what is more important to you, maximizing audio, or convenience and ease of operations?

    I hope to have at least a little time this WE so if you can get back to me I might be able to figure more out.

    Sorry to rest for going on, hey, once a geek…
    besides, y’all can perhaps learn something from my tutorials that will help you maximize your GOGD audio nirvana!
    Hey, Who wouldn’t want to experience the most of all the plangent aural ecstasy lovingly provided by the likes of Norman and Glasser ; )

  • #615
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    So far all of the CDs I've purchased since the 1980s still work fine. I rip all mine and keep them stored. Some discs I bring to play in the car, but never the limited edition ones.

  • #616
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    Hey Oro-sorry it's taken me a while to respond to your post. This is where I show my ignorance - more than usual. I don't actually know what kind of cables I've got. When I bought my cd player, a guy from the shop came to set it up for me, and he brought these cables with him.
    This cd player, it was 2019 when I got it, is a Rega Saturn - R. The amplifier, which I got about 1997 has "Isobel 50 W solid state integrated amplifier" printed on the top.
    I bought the speakers in 1997 too. I can't remember what make they are!
    My record player is a pro ject, and I got that about 2018.

    So, a very random approach. Both the cd player and the records sound great to me though. The last Dead I played was from the PNW box - 5/17/74. A really sparkling sound-especially that of Jerry and Keith.

    I got the idea that my amplifier might not be a bit antiquated when I bought an Oled telly and blu ray player last year. For some reason, I couldn't get the sound to come out of my speakers, despite the fact that it was wired up to do so. Three people came out from the shop - and the last one managed to get it to work. I don't know what he did, but he said that because the amp was made in a way that they no longer make 'em, it couldn't pick up the signal from the tv/blu ray. He tinkered about with it ( getting a it technical here) and hey presto! Sound!

    The other thing is, when I listen to a cd - say track 3, the display panel still shows track 2 until a few seconds after track3 has started playing. This engineer who sorted it out told me that the delay was due to the amp being as old and different as it is, and that it took time to pick up the signal from the cd player. I really don't know whether what he said was correct or not.

    It's a pity you don't live down the road, really, so you could pop in and have a look. What do you mean "thank God for small mercies"!

  • #617
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    I always rip them to my server immediately out of the package, then put them back and on the shelf.
    I used to also make a CD back up copy, but I’ve not been lately.
    As far as I can recall, I’ve only had problems with the music only Boxilla.
    I had a Hellava time ripping some of those discs. I think I eventually got them all, but some took hours to rip.
    Considering what that box cost, it was a stressful unpleasant experience.

    DR: your amp shouldn’t be a problem. Sounds perhaps like a sales pitch?
    A good analog amplifier can last decades, and should have nothing to do with discs being troublesome.
    Speakers and amplifiers if well built, do not need to be upgraded unless you don’t like how they sound, or obviously if they break.
    All an amplifier does is take the final, processed signal if you will, which is always eventually analog, and which is very low level, and amplifies it so it can drive the speakers. It just takes a very low level signal, and makes it loud, that’s all.
    Now this is a separate amplifier I’m speaking of, if you have an “all in one”, or receiver, those have a pre amp and often a digital processor, along with an amplifier, all in one box.
    If so, they might be talking about the front end or pre amp/processing section, but the amplifier is still just an amp like described above, it’s just lives in the same box.
    I’m curious what kind of cable or connection you have with your CD player?
    Actually, I’m curious about your whole set up…

  • #618
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    My older DaPs are physically peeling. For me it's the discs, not the player(s). YMMV

    Lesson: Check and Rip your discs immediately. -edit- And....Do NOT store them in a hot car...Slaps Head (thank God I followed my own ripping advice) :-) :-) :-)¯

  • #619
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    Interesting messages about hi fi maintenance. I am a real luddite when it come to technology. One of my friends recently suggested I try switching it off and on at the mains. That's about my level, I'm afraid.

    Apart from one cd from a 1976 Daves Picks, all mine have played well. And the ones in boxes.The ones that don't play so well are ones I have had for a while, and they always seem to play on my very cheap portable player if not my hi fi. So it seems that it's the hi fi that is at fault.
    The worst experience has been a T.Rex box set. A lot of people complained about these discs on Amazon, but mine played alright. That was last year. This year none of them will play.

    My front room can be a bit dusty - I have an open, and unused fireplace not too far from my hi fi. I keep it well dusted and have even taken to putting an old tee shirt on the system to keep the gremlins out. I think for me that could be a problem - that and the age and mismatch of my amplifier with the new stuff. I said earlier it was 20 years old-nearer 27, when I think about it .

    Not only this - I now need a new stylus. The last time I got one, the guy from the shop came to my house to attach it. His assistant came first, and he couldn't do it - so the owner of the shop came out and fitted it. Don't know how I am going to get the darn thing in place on my own. It was never a problem in the 70'-80's.

  • #620
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    It’s the CD’s and the players

    My Onkyo 6-disc changer started having drop outs in random spots. I would rewind and play again and the drop out was not there. So I think it was an electronics issue and not dust. Replaced the Onkyo with a Cambridge Audio and the CD’s played fine and even sounded better.

    I have CD’s from a variety of bands where the CD’s play fine on both the Onkyo and the Cambridge Audio players, but a good copy cannot be made to a hard drive. Redoing it with the same burner, or doing it on another computer with a different burner, still gives a copy with skips, but the skips are in different locations.
    This was the case with Road Trips Fall 77 + bonus disc (which I only got a few years ago). I had to copy the discs 5 times using 3 different computers and burners in order to get a single version on a music player that didn’t have skips.

    The only defective CD I ever got from Rhino was CD3 of 6-17-76, which Rhino acknowledged was defective and sent out defective replacements, then again sent out replacements which were fixed.

    If you store your CD’s in a hot car you should expect that they will eventually start to degrade. And the slot opening of car CD players can scuff up the disc. When I previously had a car with a CD player I made CD-R copies of my CD’s and stored the CD-R’s in the car.

    I put copies of all my GD releases on a music player and don’t continue spinning the CD’s once a good copy is on the music player. The GD releases are then stored in crates, protected from dust and dog drool.

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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Five complete, previously unreleased performances on 17CDs
Des Moines, IA 5/13/73
Santa Barbara, CA 5/20/73
San Francisco, CA 5/26/73
Washington, D.C. 6/9/73
Washington, D.C. 6/10/73
Recorded by Kidd Candelario, Betty Cantor-Jackson, and Owsley Stanley
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners featuring notes from Canadian author, Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and Legacy Manager and Audio Archivist, David Lemieux
Art and Design by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director, Masaki Koike
Custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer
 
Limited Edition Individually Numbered To 10,000 
Exclusively At Dead.net
 
"There’s the simple fact that the band members were old enough and experienced enough by now to be virtuosos on their instruments (what other group—rock or jazz or any other kind of music—could boast a trio of spectacularly singular talents such as Garcia, Lesh, and Weir?) but were still young enough to want to play and play and play some more, the happy, itchy inclination of youth. As a few of the shows in the Here Comes Sunshine boxed set attest, it wasn’t unusual for a 1973 concert to exceed four hours. And within the shows themselves, there are nearly nightly examples of hour-long orgies of tune-linked songcraft and juicy jamming." - Ray Robertson, HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 Liners
 
8 years in and the Grateful Dead are a little bit of everything to everyone. They are putting up textures and tones of rock, of jazz, of country, with set-morphing vibes and long stretches of improvisations that are completely keyed into the sum of their parts. Keith Godchaux is here with his cascading notes. Donna Jean too. Both finding their footing and keeping things steady in the wake of Pigpen's unfillable gap. The spring of 1973 feels transformative for the Dead - no more so than the May and early June shows, complementary yet remarkably different, soon-to-be cornerstones of everyone's tape collections, and now, 50 years later, set to be part of the band's official canon.
 
HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 is a limited-edition, 17CD boxed set with five previously unreleased, highly sought-after Dead shows, including: Iowa State Fairgrounds, Des Moines, IA (5/13/73), Campus Stadium, UCSB, Santa Barbara, CA (5/20/73), Kezar Stadium, San Francisco, CA (5/26/73), and Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium, Washington, D.C. (6/9/73) and (6/10/73).
 
During the spring, the band road-tested most of the songs they would record that summer for WAKE OF THE FLOOD – their first studio album in three years – including early live versions of “Mississippi Half-Step Toodeloo,” “Row Jimmy,” “Stella Blue,” “Eyes Of The World,” and, the set’s namesake, “Here Comes Sunshine.” Also tucked into the collection are songs destined for the Dead’s 1974 studio album, FROM THE MARS HOTEL – “China Doll,” “Loose Lucy,” and “Wave That Flag,” a precursor to “U.S. Blues.”
 
The new repertoire slipped neatly into the fluid setlists alongside songs honed on the 1972 European tour (“Jack Straw,” “Tennessee Jed,” “Brown-Eyed Women”), Chuck Berry perennials (“Promised Land,” “Around And Around”), classic country (“Big River,” “The Race Is On”), and incredible jam sequences: “He’s Gone”> “Truckin’”> “The Other One”> “Eyes Of The World.”
 
Due June 30th, the individually-numbered, limited-edition 17CD set features vibrant graphics and custom-designed folios by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director Masaki Koike, a custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer, and liner notes by Canadian author Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and David Lemieux. And, of course, it features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.
 
Digital convert? We've got you covered too. On the very same day you can collect your hi-definition download.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Tue, 05/02/2023 - 17:47

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I was there almost 50 years ago.
I have a question I’m hoping someone can answer.
I ordered the 73 box set and was not sent a confirmation email yet my bank says I paid the money to Warner Music. No more telephone orders and no customer help by phone. I’ve contacted Mary E. a few hours ago but no answer yet. Does anyone know who I can contact to get my order number and an email confirmation.
First world problems, Oy Vey .
Hmmm , my first time in many months posting on this site.

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Submitted by pparish34 on Tue, 05/02/2023 - 17:50

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Dave Rock, thanks for the suggestion but that doesn’t work. I’ve tried signing in, signing inas guest, using multiple credit cards and PayPal. Nothing works. Just frustrating as help as customer service is useless.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Tue, 05/02/2023 - 18:06

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Mary responded, she has Doc looking into it.

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Submitted by LedDed on Tue, 05/02/2023 - 18:17

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I tried completing my purchase three times using Chrome to no avail, just froze up after attempting to complete payment.

Went to Microsoft Edge and worked immediately. Use Edge for this purchase.

Last five:

Dirty Knobs: Wreckless Abandon
Grateful Dead: Dick's Picks Vol. 43 San Fran 11/2/69 & Dallas 12/26/69
Traffic: John Barleycorn Must Die
The Rolling Stones: Stripped
Grateful Dead: Dick's Picks Vol. 33 10/9/76 & 10/1076 Oakland Coliseum Stadium

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Submitted by Alan57 on Tue, 05/02/2023 - 18:30

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Like last year the international shipping charge on this box is messed up.The international shipping charge on the site is $25 yet this shows up as $70 when it’s in your cart.Prohibitive.
Same thing happened last year until it was fixed after several months.Even worse a number of overseas customers got it for the $25 shipping charge but others can’t.The $70 is completely out of line with other companies shipping including Rhino.
Fix it!

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Submitted by Beatles909111 on Tue, 05/02/2023 - 19:04

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I just ordered on Safari and had no problem.
Super excited to hear these shows. LOVE these box sets.

....in my DeadBase 50. It's starting to get very yellow with top shelf shows. Hopefully I live long enough for a Santa Fe one.
Personal poll I do.
We are blessed to be sure.
Spinning Portland 6.24.73 now. 😋.
Bless the tapers.
This being able to order or not being to order these releases across the internet universe is puzzling. Firewall thingamabobber? A tale as old as time.
Edit. Good to see old friends see their shadows on new releases.
This one is a humdinger.

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Submitted by LedDed on Tue, 05/02/2023 - 19:49

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I used PayPal with MSoft Edge. As I recall this has happened before... Chrome is my default browser. Either Chrome is experiencing heavier traffic than Edge or there is some issue with Windowpane... er, Windows.

I don't know, but I've been here before. I took the blue pill first, and when it didn't seem to be working, I took - the red pill.

And then when they both kicked in at the same time... it was 1973 all over again.

Gearing up for Aerosmith tickets this Friday. That last little tour Joe Perry did with Cherone and longtime bassist David Hull was awesome! Back in the Saddle again.

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Submitted by pparish34 on Tue, 05/02/2023 - 19:56

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LEDDED,

Tried PayPal with Microsoft Edge. Didn’t work. I keep getting the same message on every device when I try to use PayPal, “order total 0 is not allowed for PayPal”

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 05/02/2023 - 20:05

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Ordered with Chrome. $220 after shipping and sales tax.

The Emails from dead.net go into my promo folder so I didn't see this until tonight and what a surprise. Love it. What a lineup of great shows. Kezar finally gets released. I think this show was included in the returned Betty's/Rex stash from ABCD.
Can't wait and we should have it by the end of June. And they moved the copies down to 10,000. Probably a good move.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Tue, 05/02/2023 - 20:11

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Joe Ely--Eponymous debut and Honky Tonk Masquerade
John Raymond and Real Feels (Groovy modern jazz that reminds one of Herb Alpert)
Sonny Stitt--Stitt's Bits
Sarah Vaughn--many different albums
GD--DaP24 and Houston (11/18/72), in anticipation of the arrival of DaP46

Today I played and sang the four Gordon Lightfoot songs I know well on guitar, but can't bring myself to listen to his CDs just yet. I know that as a burgeoning radio listener in the late 70's, his songs really stood out as timeless and full of beauteous depth.

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Submitted by The Outer One on Tue, 05/02/2023 - 21:07

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No trouble ordering, including a mug and a t-shirt.

Sad to hear of GL's passing. Canadian icon, song writer extraordinaire, and life-long Leafs fan.

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Submitted by itsburnsy on Tue, 05/02/2023 - 21:22

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Sight unseen, this has to be the best box release in 12 years (E72 - 2011), especially if they sound better than what circulated on tape, which was A++ at the time. I think I'll definitely prefer this over GSTL (2017), so at the least best release in 6 years. Excellent, EXCELLENT picks Dave&Co!

Seems nuts that so many people are having difficulty ordering this. Maybe that's the real reason releases aren't selling out so quickly these days - you frequently have to have the patience of Job to get an order through.

Good point by Lebowski on the other board that if you combine this release with the PNW box, you can listen to 9 consecutive 1973 shows. The 73 shows in the PNW box get progressively better, set by set, as they progress - which bodes well for unheard shows in the new box.

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Submitted by dmcvt on Wed, 05/03/2023 - 07:26

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After a few seconds of debate, there is plenty music here, these shows are too essential, a piece of the 1973 puzzle that was and would be missing. The RFK concerts alone. First saw them Baltimore spring 1973, was back in Maine for summer with a ticket for Watkins Glen, my brother was at RFK. Though I had been on the bus for years, 1973 was the break through in person. Ordering was a breeze, though no discount code (BD15etc) worked, didn't expect so. Used current Firefox browser, old Mac laptop. Email confirmation came immediately. Can't wait, 46 will help.

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Submitted by pparish34 on Wed, 05/03/2023 - 08:27

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Fortunately, I was able to figure out my problem with ordering. I live in Alabama and for some reason the website would not calculate any sales tax for any Alabama address. Changed the address to a relative's address in another state and it calculated the sales tax and the order went through without any issue.

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Submitted by SWR on Wed, 05/03/2023 - 08:42

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I also live in Alabama and can’t get my order to work.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Wed, 05/03/2023 - 08:47

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Won't let me comment on the 4-CD selection even after signing in to the store side. Strangely it showed the $7.99 std. shipping but then credited it back upon totaling when I ordered first thing yesterday. So I paid $41.41 for the 4-CDs.
Luckily found I have a primo tape of the Kezar show.
May have to taste that before this comes at the end of June to get ready.
Cheers

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Submitted by amosesmoses on Wed, 05/03/2023 - 08:54

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Well…wadda you know…I also live in Alabama and am having the sales tax issue. Thanks PParish34 and SWR for helping narrow this down. I sent a ticket to support. Fingers crossed..don’t want to miss out on this one!

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Submitted by SWR on Wed, 05/03/2023 - 09:12

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Thanks Amosesmoses for putting in ticket. I’m in an email chain with support and I also updated it with this new information. Hopefully we can get our orders soon!

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Wed, 05/03/2023 - 10:26

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FWIW my order went through with zero issues using Chrome and VISA payment. Sorry to hear so many are having issues.

Interesting thought, Daverock, about whether these kinds of issues might have contributed to the slow sales of DaP 45. A good Marketing Department would keep track of things like website visits and how many people put something in their 'cart' but then did not complete the purchase. Whether or not deadnet/Rhino has a good marketing department I have no idea. But I can imagine some percentage of people just saying fuggit and giving up if they were maybe a little bit on the fence about a DaP purchase and then had problem after problem trying to check out.

I wonder if this '73 box makes it more or less likely we'll get a live show to go with expected WOTF 50th reissue? Whatever. This set will be worth its weight in gold, AFAIC.

The obvious answer...leave Alabama! ( only joking)

Crow - normally it's the opposite with ordering music online now, as well. You only have to read an interesting article on a musician from the past. Hear a track that you may like on you tube. And within minutes find you have ordered their entire back catalogue in some lavish box set.

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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Wed, 05/03/2023 - 12:31

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Interesting that Dave mentioned RFK as having had been under consideration for its own box. He also mentioned Bear recorded these, which is great. His mixes were pretty awesome and I'm guessing he also recorded the Allman's sets as well. Hopefully they'll release their shows to fill in the continuity of the two nights.

One surprise is the Kezar show isn't also being offered as a standalone as that's an essential show. Many of us have had the tapes for years and getting the Norman treatment was long overdue. This looks like another winner box set.

Really looking forward to the closing set with Dickey Betts and Jaimoe. Dickey was at a creative peak with Eat a Peach and Brothers and Sisters during this period. A lot to absorb from these particular shows.

Thanks Dave!

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Submitted by nitecat on Wed, 05/03/2023 - 12:51

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So does BD15DEAD work for a discount? There has been some doubt here. Has anyone used it successfully for this box?

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Submitted by sixlaps on Wed, 05/03/2023 - 13:23

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Has anyone had any success ordering the flac downloads? Won't let me add to cart keep getting a message that says - Product "FLAC IG #1 Released 5/2 - Ramble On Rose (Live From RFK Stadium, Washington, D.C. 6/10/73)" has an invalid price assigned

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Wed, 05/03/2023 - 14:47

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nitecat, I forgot Vguy's tip on the discount code when I ordered the box, but when I went back to order a standalone 6-10-73, I tried it -- nada. Think I got free shipping though (~$8). Not sure why.

6-9-73 was my second show and, as I've recounted countless (and painful) times, I had no means of staying for 6-10-73 (a Sunday) -- man, I was 15, my godfather was visiting, and I had school on Monday. We had on snearkers, jeans and t-shirts, no food, water or money (maybe $2-3) and we'd taken a blotter Satuday morning before the Dead and re-dosed that evening before the Allmans and we were fried by any standard. A very hot weekend!

In any case, my brother and his friends did stay and reported that it was an epic. I've been given "soundboards" of 6-10 that I just couldn't listen to due to tinny SQ, so this box is most welcome and undoubtedly a listen to 6-9 will jog some distant memories.

To the ailing "Steve" who posted that 6-9 was his first show -- I wish you a full recovery and the folks on this forum generally provide healing vibes as our brethren encounter difficulties.

Good thing there's two months before the box hits, cuz I'm gonna groove on DP 46 from fall '72 first.

Paz, HF

daverock or was it thatmike -- yeah, we generalized about loose, after hours jamming between the GD and the ABB but I'd bet that Disc 17 in this box is going to smoke!

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Submitted by Obeah on Wed, 05/03/2023 - 15:57

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I tried the discount code I see mentioned in this thread, but the webform wouldn't take it. However like HF I also seem to be getting free shipping if I put the box set into my cart. Hmm. "These are deep waters, Watson..."

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Submitted by adedhed68 on Wed, 05/03/2023 - 17:02

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Discount? Discount??!!? I didn’t get no stinkin discount!!!!

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Submitted by adedhed68 on Wed, 05/03/2023 - 18:43

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Yeah I ordered the box before I checked the board here. Maybe next time I’ll wait a while before ordering……..

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 05/04/2023 - 00:28

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I think I must have used the code to ask them to add some on, rather than take some off.

HF - yes, I think we are lucky to have that jam between ABB and GD released now. And how great to be able to refer to a cd in a new Dead release as "disc 17".

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Submitted by Nick1234 on Thu, 05/04/2023 - 03:34

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With international shipping, import duty etc it'll come to over $300. I don't want or need it that much.

I think it's time they scrapped the limited edition nonsense, the last two boxes and Dave's Picks haven't sold out yet and we all know that they'll find an excuse to produce a few more if they think there's a demand.

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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Thu, 05/04/2023 - 06:34

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In very early June of 1973, I was a 16-year-old teenager who got on the bus with radio airplay of Truckin'. My family was in the suburban Maryland area surrounding Washington DC and one of my older brother's friends told me that the Grateful Dead was coming to RFK Stadium and asked me if would I like to go. Yes! I would like to go. I originally wanted to go to the Saturday night show, on 6/9, but my older brother got 1st choice, so I took the Sunday show on 6/10/73. I don't remember too much of actually being at the show, but I do remember being in the stands and looking to the left all the time to watch the show. I do remember it was hot and humid and the smell of marijuana in the air.
Wow! My very first rock concert was a Grateful Dead and Allman Brothers show. I saw the GD many time after that and those shows were mainly in the 80s. I didn't really get into the Allmans as I did with the GD and I saw Wet Willie only 2 times after this event.

Yes, my dream came true! For a long time, I was hoping that 6/10/73 would be officially released and it has - part of this box set and as a standalone release on CD and 8 LP set.

Being retired, I really don't have the funds to buy this box, but I will buy the standalone CD set. I had all the GD shows in this box on CD-R but somehow, all but the 6/10 show remain along with the ABB set of that night. I also used to have the Kezar and Santa Barbara shows on cassette too.

Thanks Sheik Yerbones!
I am taking it one day at a time and enjoy each one to the fullest. Thanks for your well wishes and positive thought to help see me through.

Peace/Love, Enjoy This Beautiful Earth
B Steve

Thanks VGUY72! Your thoughts and well wishes help see me through. I have been fortunate to see some hot shows on the east coast the past years when the Dead were still touring. Every day is a blessing on this beautiful God Given earth!

Peace/Love

B Steve

art looks good like may 77, is he the same artist who did May 77? this boxset was well done for all: music, art, and 14cd in a small package with some of the best music they ever made!
relistening to the kezar show makes me now wandering about the previous show? All this was before the Pacific north west tour...the usual suspects (Lemieux & Norman) likely did another great addition to the GD collection. Mr Lemieux are you waiting for the tide? we miss your comments...

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Submitted by Alan57 on Thu, 05/04/2023 - 16:04

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I am wondering if there is anyone else here in my situation.
I placed an order for the box and they have charged my bank account but I never received a confirmation email.I have emailed them but I haven’t heard of anyone that has got a reply from them in the last few days.
I am aware of at least one other person this happened to and it seems to only affect non US customers.Anyone?

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Thu, 05/04/2023 - 17:43

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1977 still waiting for this stellar show to get the full Norman.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 05/04/2023 - 21:10

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Yes

I received my confirmation right away.

I would/wouldn't sweat getting it or not getting it. They seem to have no rhyme or reason for sending notices.

Oh, and UPS sucks. Nothing seems to move in UPS until the truck is filled.

Like the scene in Dark Passage with Bogart. He buys a bus ticket and ask when the bus leaves. Guy says when I call out bus for Benton. When's that he enquires? When I sell 3 more tickets.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Fri, 05/05/2023 - 08:24

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It's a little-known fact, there, uh . . . Norm, that the folks who used the 15% discount code will have 15% of each disc erased before shipping occurs. It's a random 15%, so it might be an El Paso, or it might be the middle of an Other One . . .

Those who paid full price won't need to worry . . .

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