Dave's Picks Vol. 46: Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, CA 9/9/72

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Golden era Grateful Dead in the most golden city in the Golden State? Yes, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 46 features the complete unreleased show from the Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, 9/9/72. Loosen that tie, this ain't a red carpet rodeo - it's the after party that legends are made of. Consistently excellent from start to finish, this West Coast groove showcases tracks that would soon debut on EUROPE '72, solo material from both Jerry and Bob, a riveting iteration of "China>Rider," a couple of Chuck Berry doozies, a bonkers 35-plus "Other One" that hits all the psychedelic highs, and wraps up with a "Casey Jones"/"Sugar Magnolia"/"One More Saturday Night" finale that'll have you wondering why you wore a tie in the first place. Hooray for Hollywood, indeed.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Owsley Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Oh, and it ships next week so you'll wanna grab a copy while you can.

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May 3, 2023 - 5:19pm

#881

Angry Jack Straw

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DaP46

arrived today. Listened to the bonus disc first then the full show.

The audio quality continues to be outstanding. The show itself is solid, but I did not find it to be extraordinary. And I don’t care one bit that the songs are not all in the correct sequence. I prefer that to a long, continuous jam being chopped up.

I am interested to hear what others think about the newspaper reviews that were included with this release. I felt it was an odd decision at first, but after listening to the show, I somewhat understand it.

Mike - the Leafs are allowed a little slack after winning round one, but they already put themselves in a tough spot. The Panthers had a much tougher task beating the Bruins, but they remain hot. Gotta win game 2.

Vguy - sorry brother, but we now part ways. Taking the Oilers in this series. Good luck though.
May 3, 2023 - 3:59pm

#882

Sixtus_

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Take A Bow

Wow
Oro, that history lesson has totally schooled me in the coolest way.

Thanks for sharing your Phil Bombin' knowledge droppage.

Sixtus
May 3, 2023 - 3:33pm

#883

1stshow70878

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Yes, The History!

I knew you would know this stuff Oro. In the list his first two basses he played with the GD are the ones listed as "location unknown". Big Brown is listed as in his collection. Nothing about any theft that I saw.
Now that's a GD specific post. Oro shoots, he scores! Thanks.
Cheers
May 3, 2023 - 3:21pm

#884

Oroborous

Joined:
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Only related to poor people ; )

Phil’s Basses you say, I wish I had one lol.
Actually, I wish I had the Alembic I have, but a five string with a variable rotary pickup selector instead of the four position switch, but I digress…

Didn’t look at what all he may or may not have used in the early years, but in 69 they started working on a ridiculous mod to the Guild Starfire II, which upon completion, he started playing after spring of 71. In the meantime he was mostly using a modded Gibson EB 0. The Guild became known as The Godfather, or more commonly Big Brown.
By the fall of 73 Mission Control was ready, and he eventually used both, often depending on if one was in the shop.
I guess Big Brown had especially delicate circuitry.
But he went back and forth with those until fall 79 when he switched to the Red looking Irwin that was like Jerry’s.
Interestingly, JGs was fully custom, while the bass was one Doug had already. But he eventually didn’t like the sound of that and perhaps more importantly, it didn’t hang or balance right.
I heard Jer never ended up sticking with any Alembic because of the balance?
Then in 81, Phil starts using a rad 67 Fender Jazz bass briefly before switching to a G&L 2000 which he played until later 1982, at which time he switched almost exclusively to Modulus Graphite 6 strings.
In late 89 he jumped again to Ken Smith BT 66s, while using a Frankensteined Modulus for midi, until having Smith modded MIDI basses for space etc. After that I’m not so sure…

Funny 1stshow mentions Brownie Stolen?
Phil mentions the 67 Jazz disappearing, but my understanding is he’s had, or at least has Big Brown.
Mission Control was thought to be stolen, but ended up being “misplaced” in the Dead’s storage somewhere where until 1995 when they moved to new digs. But, supposedly it still was not know of, and ended up in a storage bin that the owner couldn’t afford, so went to salvage. Sounds familiar….?
Can you even image opening some mysterious roadcase and finding THAT!!
Since then a Shop picked it up and redid a few things and sold it to a collector who’s had Rick Turner, Irwin, Wickersham etc all do restorative work on it in 2020…
There’s pictures and a brief write up on it in the cool book: Historical Axes: Guitars that Rock by Lisa S Johnson, which also includes the Pretzel Guitar!

EDIT: there’s a couple cool pics of some of Phil’s basses on page 202 from 5/9/2000 in Jay Blakesberg’s Between the Dark and Light.
Big Brownie is present, but no Mission Control.
May 3, 2023 - 3:13pm

#885

bigbrownie

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Big Brown

Big Brownie was the nickname given to me by a couple of pals when we were 10 or so. It comes from a Felix the Cat episode about a misunderstood bear. The name just stuck. At that time I was unaware of the Grateful Dead. On a side note, I DO make a mean batch of pot brownies.
May 3, 2023 - 1:15pm

#886

JimInMD

Joined:
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Re: Oro has it

That's where they are all hiding. Oro.. any relation to the Irsay's?
May 3, 2023 - 12:14pm

#887

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

Big Brown....

....maybe that's where Big Brownie got his username from.
May 3, 2023 - 11:55am

#888

Deadheadbrewer

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I met #5641 accidentally, in Saint Paul, Minnesota!

Postal carrier just pulled away from the curbside mailbox, and I ran out to find 70-degree sunshine, new daffodils blooming, AND DaP46 in the mailbox. Hope you all get yours soon!
May 3, 2023 - 11:25am

#889

1stshow70878

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Basses Galore

Looked them up. This is the one right before Mission Control.
Also done by Alembic though and started as his red Starfire.
Alembic stripped the red color off and modified it heavily.
Started off with 12 knobs and eventually had 13 knobs.
Called "Big Brown" and is currently in his collection.
His first two are "location unknown". (Oro has it?)
Figures that he would love messing with mods and new stuff.
The inquisitive mind!
Cheers
May 3, 2023 - 11:13am

#890

Vguy72

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That bass???....

....I believe that's "Mission Control".
BTW, the new Dune 2 trailer dropped today if anyone here is into that.

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Golden era Grateful Dead in the most golden city in the Golden State? Yes, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 46 features the complete unreleased show from the Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, 9/9/72. Loosen that tie, this ain't a red carpet rodeo - it's the after party that legends are made of. Consistently excellent from start to finish, this West Coast groove showcases tracks that would soon debut on EUROPE '72, solo material from both Jerry and Bob, a riveting iteration of "China>Rider," a couple of Chuck Berry doozies, a bonkers 35-plus "Other One" that hits all the psychedelic highs, and wraps up with a "Casey Jones"/"Sugar Magnolia"/"One More Saturday Night" finale that'll have you wondering why you wore a tie in the first place. Hooray for Hollywood, indeed.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Owsley Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Oh, and it ships next week so you'll wanna grab a copy while you can.

SLC....Salt Lake City....

....and they did play Dark Star there in '73. I had to double check myself to be sure I didn't dream it.
Here Comes Sunshine box in hand.
Ohhh boy.

BFD

It is a big fucking deal....

....speaking of BFD's, I just stumbled on a band called Tropical Fuck Storm.
TFS.
Australia 🇦🇺 making plays!
Last Five material.

SLC - a paradise for lizards

Vguy -You dreamed it - no '73 SLC Dark Star. And, if its the Dark Star on DiP28 you're thinking of, that is from Lincoln, NE. Like Drpryan said, the Dark Star - the full show - from 4/12/69 at the Student Union Ballroom, U of U is a real good un.

Dead performed the song Salt Lake City once, 2/21/95. Strider was there. Show released in the 30 Trips box. Beautiful Foolish Heart and first Visions of Johanna since the pair in '86.

3 31 73

Check it out. Great show.

Synchronicity:

"The Race Is On" played while I crawled through traffic in Portland OR. The thing is, I was right by Portland Meadows, a horse racing track.

That was cool.

News story today

about Great Salt Lake drying up

I've heard before about that but...timely given recent SLC mentions

I Live In Utah

The Great Salt Lake drying up has been an issue for some years now.

Your welcome

I'm still protesting over Garcia (50th Anniversary Edition) being released only on vinyl as I have no vinyl setup.

Lakes drying up....

....Hola from the southwest! 👋
In other news, my Phish Farmhouse LP is shipped and the latest archival release was announced today. 6.16.00 Osaka, Japan 🇯🇵. Comes out Friday.

Yes, "heard before about that"

You're welcome

Thanks Nitecat

Looking forward to Healy interviews 2 and 3.

I wonder....

....if Dave Lemieux and Kevin Shapiro hang out and share notes.
The archivists of my top 2 bands. Pumping out righteous tunes.
Currently watching Evil Dead Rise.
Give me your best shot. I can take it. Dogs and son are out.

Evil Dead Rise....

....I love me some horror. And this one fed my fix.
Bravo!!

IceCreamKid

Your welcome. Glad you enjoyed the Healy interview. That was shot in a balcony storage area. The Hunter interview, Constanten interview and Cipollina interviews have been very popular also.

You might also enjoy the Dead Head TV Ice Cream Kids.

DreamsWeDreamed dot com.

Nitecat

“I want my Dead TV”.

I’ve watched everything you mentioned.
Good stuff! Thanks again.
And a late-80’s flashback of clothing, cars, hair cuts…..

Deadtv

Yeah the “culture” time capsule is one of my favorite parts!
Looking forward to a another binge soon!
Keep ‘em coming brother…

Whelp, it finally happened....

....after owning a smartphone since 2011, I'm finally a member of the cracked screen club. Fell literally two feet off my end table, and yes. It has a case. Booooo!

Then yay!!!....

....Mickey released an ATMOS mix of Workingmans.

hey VGUY....

re: your HBD wishes.... I've been a-Head since my first show in '82 (can't get enough) ... but re: Phish, I've seen them at Jazzfest, and was just listening to my only Phish CD, a live one. Love alot of it ... if you're in the know, what other Phish releases would you recommend ... no pressure, just looking for some advice ...I think I have a DVD of a show they did back east as well. thx man!.....tcc

Phish?

Hampton Comes Alive

That and A Live One are the extent of my Phish collection

HCA...nice stuff, I must say

Those dudes from Vermont?....

....New Years '95 and Vegas '96. Clifford Ball. And, of course Hampton.
Anything between 1994 and 1999 gets my blood pumping.
If you want a good laugh, watch Phish shreds IT on you toob.

Hey "That Mike," if you see this, And Phish

You mentioned a couple of weeks back that you had watched Phish's Live in Brooklyn DVD. Wanted to post that is a huge part of my yearly rotation. Listen to it 2-3/year. Just an awesome performance, just one of many I had a chance to see but was too busy at work to go. The last time I was in the Hampton Coliseum was for the recording of Hampton Comes Alive. Think, from memory, it was Cincy, Murfreesboro, and Hampton. A fun little jaunt. All three were wild. Saw Phish first time in November of 1995. A Live One also a great recording. Hard to believe but 2023 marks their 40th anniversary as a band. Happy anniversary Phish!!! Love you guys, get a couple of shows in next few weeks, and then maybe Nashville. Fall dates announced.

What did Mike Tyson say to Bob Wier?....

....Althea later!

IceCreamKid -Dead Head TV

Other fun videos on DTV:
Merle Saunders
Frost 1988
Kaiser 1988
Hunter Music Video "Bone Alley"
Greeks 1988
Laguna Seca 1988
Gambling themes in lyrics
American Pastimes: Baseball and the Dead
Walking Tour of Haight Ashbury
Dead Head Profiles

DH TV

I've been enjoying these, Scott. Thanks so much for going through the trouble to clean these up and get them out there.

Evokes some great memories.. in the days before internet (at least as we know it now), social media and cell phones.. when Duprees Diamond News was how a lot of us figured out what was going on during the shows we could not attend, this looks like it was put together about this time. I have never seen any of it before.

Thanks again.

Jiminmd - dead head tv

Glad to hear you are enjoying it. When I was producing and directing the show, I tried to make a show I would like to watch, an intelligent comment on the scene, show highlights, tour highlights, what a venue that I could not attend was like. I'd be interested in interviews with people involved in the Dead sphere, and with deadheads themselves, because they seemed to be interesting people. That's why we did "Deadhead Profiles". I felt like the straight media at the time was missing how cool the scene and the deadheads were, and as a professional journalist I could tell the story better, at least from a informed deadhead's perspective. What was amazing is it took off like a rocket, and we soon had all sorts of deadhead friends contributing to the show.

8 6 74

:)))

Non-GD discovery

a whole lotta FZ guitar solos on U toob.

Fan
Ta
Stick

stuff

I just discovered....

....this band called Dirty Honey. You know the LA sound when you hear it.

3 28 73

:)))

3/28/73

Indeed!

Scooby roooooooo!

thanks all ...

for the Phish recs ... I'm going for the Hampton Comes Alive !!! but as the 73 box set arrives tomorrow (in theory), it may just have to wait a bit longer! Thank again all .......tcc

Hampton....

....Get Jiggy With It!

Top Cat & Fish

check your pm's

Althea Later

Nice!

5 14 74

:)))

5/14/74

Damn PF, yer hitting all my faces : )

Indigo Girls at zoo tonight

I have the good fortune of living close enough to hear it all pretty well

Anyone else at Eugene 93 when IG opened?

:)))

Faces?

Autocorrect...

6/27 & 28/69

These two shows released together would make a great stand alone release.

Favs

Not faces, Damn auto correct, lol
But no error on the calendar cause it’s Fry Yea
Woo hoo

6 27 69 & 6 28 69

Love 'em

They could also be part of a

GD 1969 BOX SET!!!

Whaddya say, PTB?

GarciaLive, shipped....

....Phish Farmhouse vinyl, shipped. Dog treats and chews, shipped. (Oops. You probably don't care about that). Vegas hit a record yesterday. 293 consecutive days without reaching 100 degrees. That ends today. 110 by Sunday. Yay!!

On deck

5 11 72
7 29 74
2 14 68
June 76 discs
The new box set (when it arrives...I am so wooded for that box...probably will arrive Monday...patience, PF. Patience.)