Dave's Picks Vol. 46: Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, CA 9/9/72

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April 20, 2023 - 8:48am

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Golden era Grateful Dead in the most golden city in the Golden State? Yes, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 46 features the complete unreleased show from the Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, 9/9/72. Loosen that tie, this ain't a red carpet rodeo - it's the after party that legends are made of. Consistently excellent from start to finish, this West Coast groove showcases tracks that would soon debut on EUROPE '72, solo material from both Jerry and Bob, a riveting iteration of "China>Rider," a couple of Chuck Berry doozies, a bonkers 35-plus "Other One" that hits all the psychedelic highs, and wraps up with a "Casey Jones"/"Sugar Magnolia"/"One More Saturday Night" finale that'll have you wondering why you wore a tie in the first place. Hooray for Hollywood, indeed.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Owsley Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Oh, and it ships next week so you'll wanna grab a copy while you can.

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May 1, 2023 - 7:35pm

#941

Mr. Ones

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Gustav Holst/Garcia Hunter

Was just finishing up Leonard Bernstein & the NY Philharmonic’s recording of Holst’s The Planets while catching up on this thread.
Neptune:The Mystic fades to an end, and now, thanks to you folks; I reached over about three feet to my right, Grabbed Dick’s 12, and am ready for Jam->China->MLB->Rider. Have not played this in a while. Thanks guys!!
May 1, 2023 - 7:09pm

#942

JimInMD

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Providence CR

I got that about a month to six weeks ago. For years I had the Jam>C>R out of sequence in my digital library, meaning all devices, etc. And I always forgot to fix it until about a year ago.. imagine the frustration....

No right or wrong answer.. no majority or minority. I guess what attracts me to the China Riders is that the progressed or changed more from year to year, decade to decade. It seemed to morph quicker and for a longer period where the Scarlet Fires were seemingly more stable and had less change.

A fun topic certain to draw me out of the woodwork along with many others apparently.

P.S. I loved the redacted passages. Creative harmless humor that seemed to solve whatever problem existed at that moment. Cracked me up. Now where were we.. ah yes.. back to our evil plans to rule the world. If you are at a loss on where to begin, might I recommend the excellent book by André De Guillaume simply titled, "How To Rule the World." It's a must read for the aspiring dictator in us all. (Ooops, should I have redacted some of that?)
May 1, 2023 - 6:45pm

#943

Vguy72

Joined:
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That '74 Providence China -> Rider though....

....oh yeah Angry Jack. First time I heard that, I think I replayed it three or four times. Still have it on tape.
As a matter of fact, I haven't listened to it for a while, so its going in.....now.
It's approximately 20 minutes long. Same length as hockey intermissions. Imagine that.
May 1, 2023 - 6:29pm

#944

Angry Jack Straw

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I Guess I am in the Minority

I’ll take S>F over C>R. I prefer the 77 S>Fs over any other year. The spring tour specifically. Agreed that 72-74 was the peak for C>R. The duo seemed to lose something once the band discontinued MLB during the transition.

That being said, the 6/26/74 C>R from DP12 trumps all of the versions of both combinations. For me at least. One of my favorite pieces of GD music.

The Devils are flying. Hope they can continue the momentum.
May 1, 2023 - 3:14pm

#945

JimInMD

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China Rider all the way for me...

I agree on 5/3/72 and 8/27/72 as standouts, but the off the beaten track sleepers always pull me in.

I was thinking about this very topic over the weekend I had a mystery waterproof device playing while I was on the river.. I have five or six waterproof shuffles and never know what's playing. I think it was 2/24/74, anyway.. it got me thinking about the under the radar excellent versions. For me, a couple that sneak up on you are 5/24/72 Lyceum, 5/17/74 Vancouver and toss in 7/9/89 Giants Stadium simply because I listened to it Saturday night and it's one of those versions where there's is a verse flub and boy did they make hay filling in the empty space with some incredible playing.

Anyway, like someone else in this thread commented, it does a good job of highlighting all the things the GD did that no other band seems to have been able to crystalize so purely, it almost seems effortless but we know better. Man, I miss Jerry.. a 20th century heavyweight.

Love the stand alone Scarlets but there's a few Scarlet Fires I really like, both pre and post Brent. Still.. I could listen to enjoy sequential listens of every China Eleven and China Rider they ever did and never get bored.

That's all I've got.. back to the taboo topics and psycedellic mayhem that makes us all tick.
May 1, 2023 - 11:41am

#946

ronmarley1

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Couple Items

Have had a tracking number since Thursday, but still not tracking. Whatever. I've been in this situation before where it showed up and there was never any tracking. Not confident with the ole USPS. Three weeks ago, had a mail stop for a road trip to Nashville and Memphis. Came home to a box full of mail.

Used to be Scarlet>Fire. Now I'm more China>Rider. But that's like picking which child you love more.
May 1, 2023 - 11:30am

#947

dmcvt

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6674 landed

Checked tracking this morning, said it was 150 miles away and would deliver by Saturday May 6. My tiny rural PO is temporarily closed for repairs, those who do not get home delivery have to pick up at another PO for a while. And there it was, a total surprise. Just the first disc in so far, first impression. Simply excellent, strong vocals, great Bird Song, Jeffrey Norman has done magic again and of course, it's a Bear to begin with. Would not be surprised if this sells out before 45.
May 1, 2023 - 10:20am

#948

daverock

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Life is so strange

Crow - I was about to write a post with exactly the same message you wrote re China-Rider. And I would have referenced the same one , from the original Europe 72 album. It's got so much of what I like about the band in a short space....well, what you said basically. The other one that came to mind was the one from 8/27/72.

I also like the stand alone Scarlets. I like the fact that the 77 versions of Scarlet-Fire have such a different feel to them than anything they played pre-retirement - a bit calypso to me sometimes -a World music vibe. Trouble is I'm not always that keen on it! Definitely good to hear now and again though.
May 1, 2023 - 9:28am

#949

Lovemygirl

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Re/ Dave’s Picks 46 Bonus Disk

Bonus Disk Set list.
1. Bertha -6:24
2. Greatest Story Ever Told -5:33
3. Bird Song -11:01
4. Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toddeloo -7:03
5. BrokeDown Palace -5:45
*** 9/19/72 Jersey City, NJ Rosevelt Stadium
6. China Cat Sunflower- 6:43
7. I Know You Rider- 5:59
8. Brown-Eyed Woman -5:26
9. Trucking -10:24
10. Cold Rain & Snow- 5:30
11. Ramble On Rose- 6:17
*** 9/3/72 Boulder, CO ‘Folsom Field
May 1, 2023 - 9:21am

#950

Crow Told Me

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I Rang a Silent Bell Beneath Something Something Something

I've sometimes thought that if somebody who had never heard the GD asked me for one track they could listen to that would clue them in to why the band is so special, I might choose China-Rider. It's got a little of everything: some psychedelia, some funk, some jamming, some country/folk. If we listen to, say, the one from Europe '72, we get absolutely fantastic interplay between Jer and Bob's guitars. And it's a really good showcase for everything we love about Jerry's vocals.

I'm always up for a good Scar-Fire, but I do think they're probably less consistent than China-Rider.

Got my shipping notice a couple days ago, still shows "status not available" when I try to use the tracking number. Whatever. It'll get here in a week or so.

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Golden era Grateful Dead in the most golden city in the Golden State? Yes, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 46 features the complete unreleased show from the Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, 9/9/72. Loosen that tie, this ain't a red carpet rodeo - it's the after party that legends are made of. Consistently excellent from start to finish, this West Coast groove showcases tracks that would soon debut on EUROPE '72, solo material from both Jerry and Bob, a riveting iteration of "China>Rider," a couple of Chuck Berry doozies, a bonkers 35-plus "Other One" that hits all the psychedelic highs, and wraps up with a "Casey Jones"/"Sugar Magnolia"/"One More Saturday Night" finale that'll have you wondering why you wore a tie in the first place. Hooray for Hollywood, indeed.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Owsley Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Oh, and it ships next week so you'll wanna grab a copy while you can.

SLC....Salt Lake City....

....and they did play Dark Star there in '73. I had to double check myself to be sure I didn't dream it.
Here Comes Sunshine box in hand.
Ohhh boy.

BFD

It is a big fucking deal....

....speaking of BFD's, I just stumbled on a band called Tropical Fuck Storm.
TFS.
Australia 🇦🇺 making plays!
Last Five material.

SLC - a paradise for lizards

Vguy -You dreamed it - no '73 SLC Dark Star. And, if its the Dark Star on DiP28 you're thinking of, that is from Lincoln, NE. Like Drpryan said, the Dark Star - the full show - from 4/12/69 at the Student Union Ballroom, U of U is a real good un.

Dead performed the song Salt Lake City once, 2/21/95. Strider was there. Show released in the 30 Trips box. Beautiful Foolish Heart and first Visions of Johanna since the pair in '86.

3 31 73

Check it out. Great show.

Synchronicity:

"The Race Is On" played while I crawled through traffic in Portland OR. The thing is, I was right by Portland Meadows, a horse racing track.

That was cool.

News story today

about Great Salt Lake drying up

I've heard before about that but...timely given recent SLC mentions

I Live In Utah

The Great Salt Lake drying up has been an issue for some years now.

Your welcome

I'm still protesting over Garcia (50th Anniversary Edition) being released only on vinyl as I have no vinyl setup.

Lakes drying up....

....Hola from the southwest! 👋
In other news, my Phish Farmhouse LP is shipped and the latest archival release was announced today. 6.16.00 Osaka, Japan 🇯🇵. Comes out Friday.

Yes, "heard before about that"

You're welcome

Thanks Nitecat

Looking forward to Healy interviews 2 and 3.

I wonder....

....if Dave Lemieux and Kevin Shapiro hang out and share notes.
The archivists of my top 2 bands. Pumping out righteous tunes.
Currently watching Evil Dead Rise.
Give me your best shot. I can take it. Dogs and son are out.

Evil Dead Rise....

....I love me some horror. And this one fed my fix.
Bravo!!

IceCreamKid

Your welcome. Glad you enjoyed the Healy interview. That was shot in a balcony storage area. The Hunter interview, Constanten interview and Cipollina interviews have been very popular also.

You might also enjoy the Dead Head TV Ice Cream Kids.

DreamsWeDreamed dot com.

Nitecat

“I want my Dead TV”.

I’ve watched everything you mentioned.
Good stuff! Thanks again.
And a late-80’s flashback of clothing, cars, hair cuts…..

Deadtv

Yeah the “culture” time capsule is one of my favorite parts!
Looking forward to a another binge soon!
Keep ‘em coming brother…

Whelp, it finally happened....

....after owning a smartphone since 2011, I'm finally a member of the cracked screen club. Fell literally two feet off my end table, and yes. It has a case. Booooo!

Then yay!!!....

....Mickey released an ATMOS mix of Workingmans.

hey VGUY....

re: your HBD wishes.... I've been a-Head since my first show in '82 (can't get enough) ... but re: Phish, I've seen them at Jazzfest, and was just listening to my only Phish CD, a live one. Love alot of it ... if you're in the know, what other Phish releases would you recommend ... no pressure, just looking for some advice ...I think I have a DVD of a show they did back east as well. thx man!.....tcc

Phish?

Hampton Comes Alive

That and A Live One are the extent of my Phish collection

HCA...nice stuff, I must say

Those dudes from Vermont?....

....New Years '95 and Vegas '96. Clifford Ball. And, of course Hampton.
Anything between 1994 and 1999 gets my blood pumping.
If you want a good laugh, watch Phish shreds IT on you toob.

Hey "That Mike," if you see this, And Phish

You mentioned a couple of weeks back that you had watched Phish's Live in Brooklyn DVD. Wanted to post that is a huge part of my yearly rotation. Listen to it 2-3/year. Just an awesome performance, just one of many I had a chance to see but was too busy at work to go. The last time I was in the Hampton Coliseum was for the recording of Hampton Comes Alive. Think, from memory, it was Cincy, Murfreesboro, and Hampton. A fun little jaunt. All three were wild. Saw Phish first time in November of 1995. A Live One also a great recording. Hard to believe but 2023 marks their 40th anniversary as a band. Happy anniversary Phish!!! Love you guys, get a couple of shows in next few weeks, and then maybe Nashville. Fall dates announced.

What did Mike Tyson say to Bob Wier?....

....Althea later!

IceCreamKid -Dead Head TV

Other fun videos on DTV:
Merle Saunders
Frost 1988
Kaiser 1988
Hunter Music Video "Bone Alley"
Greeks 1988
Laguna Seca 1988
Gambling themes in lyrics
American Pastimes: Baseball and the Dead
Walking Tour of Haight Ashbury
Dead Head Profiles

DH TV

I've been enjoying these, Scott. Thanks so much for going through the trouble to clean these up and get them out there.

Evokes some great memories.. in the days before internet (at least as we know it now), social media and cell phones.. when Duprees Diamond News was how a lot of us figured out what was going on during the shows we could not attend, this looks like it was put together about this time. I have never seen any of it before.

Thanks again.

Jiminmd - dead head tv

Glad to hear you are enjoying it. When I was producing and directing the show, I tried to make a show I would like to watch, an intelligent comment on the scene, show highlights, tour highlights, what a venue that I could not attend was like. I'd be interested in interviews with people involved in the Dead sphere, and with deadheads themselves, because they seemed to be interesting people. That's why we did "Deadhead Profiles". I felt like the straight media at the time was missing how cool the scene and the deadheads were, and as a professional journalist I could tell the story better, at least from a informed deadhead's perspective. What was amazing is it took off like a rocket, and we soon had all sorts of deadhead friends contributing to the show.

8 6 74

:)))

Non-GD discovery

a whole lotta FZ guitar solos on U toob.

Fan
Ta
Stick

stuff

I just discovered....

....this band called Dirty Honey. You know the LA sound when you hear it.

3 28 73

:)))

3/28/73

Indeed!

Scooby roooooooo!

thanks all ...

for the Phish recs ... I'm going for the Hampton Comes Alive !!! but as the 73 box set arrives tomorrow (in theory), it may just have to wait a bit longer! Thank again all .......tcc

Hampton....

....Get Jiggy With It!

Top Cat & Fish

check your pm's

Althea Later

Nice!

5 14 74

:)))

5/14/74

Damn PF, yer hitting all my faces : )

Indigo Girls at zoo tonight

I have the good fortune of living close enough to hear it all pretty well

Anyone else at Eugene 93 when IG opened?

:)))

Faces?

Autocorrect...

6/27 & 28/69

These two shows released together would make a great stand alone release.

Favs

Not faces, Damn auto correct, lol
But no error on the calendar cause it’s Fry Yea
Woo hoo

6 27 69 & 6 28 69

Love 'em

They could also be part of a

GD 1969 BOX SET!!!

Whaddya say, PTB?

GarciaLive, shipped....

....Phish Farmhouse vinyl, shipped. Dog treats and chews, shipped. (Oops. You probably don't care about that). Vegas hit a record yesterday. 293 consecutive days without reaching 100 degrees. That ends today. 110 by Sunday. Yay!!

On deck

5 11 72
7 29 74
2 14 68
June 76 discs
The new box set (when it arrives...I am so wooded for that box...probably will arrive Monday...patience, PF. Patience.)