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    Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.


    By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.


    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • #511
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    Wish they could grab Phil and Friends along with Warren Haynes.

    Been playing around with The Dead a touch. Fired up an old computer and rediscovered a file from 2008/09 with a lot of shows in it. Forgot about that. They had some very good shows with Warren Haynes.

    And the continuation of the drums thread, they had some awesome drum/space during this 2008/09 period.

    Wrote on here years ago about how I felt drums/space was a kind of replacement for Dark Star. As an aside, I think it matches up with "Where's the dog star?" Or, Where is your night time Compass? Many used D/S as a rest room break. In the shows which I saw, I never took a bathroom break at any shows, ever, except one which I plan to write about next year. If I, and we, make it.

    It is interesting that Sirius, aka, Alpha Canis Major, or A CMa, is a binary star having Sirius A & B (to keep things easy). I have spent years reading on this type of stuff and believe with many, that our solar system maybe be binary, or bipolar. Is there a planet x out there, some of the math says so. I believe it could be true.

    So any way, I think the fellas played around a lot with the next psychedelic jam. Where can that dog star be in our shows. Most of the time, in later years, it was that one hour nugget in almost every show centered around drums/space. Now sometimes that was off and the started the show blazing psychedelia from the get go, for me 1982-09-21, MSG, with Playing>Crazy opener. My point, even when you are way over-dosed, and questioning decisions made, the fellas had a guide star. After all, Sirius A is a fixed star, a Compass. They always lead you out of the psychedelia so that you can go back into the real world, and do your best to function/not get caught.

    All of this, points to the true meaning of Grateful Dead, much like the Phoenix rising. Each show day they set-up and take down the System (life/death). They move on down the road and set-up again. Each show, they almost always recreated the Tests, by initiating new partakers to play in the swirling chaos of a show, the chaos of life and death for all of us. Many would come and the experience would overwhelm them, scare the shit out of them. That is, they always maintained the joy and fear of life as we know it. for me, let's say a show with 10,000 has a 5% or 500 new participants, I always believed only 10% of those continued on. Many were just trying to get a bucket list item checked off. Again, the mysteries dark and vast, have never been captured even closely by any other band or other forms of art.

    Have a great friend see his one and only GD show on October 8th, 1989. He had a great time, but he was like "look at the dude in a skirt!" Great friend, but never attached or understood. This same friend I saw a Yes show in Nashville April 1984, one of his closest friends went to Hampton GD, that same weekend.

    She dont lie, she dont lie, she dont lie...Cocaine. If memory is correct, I think it was on Long Strange Trip, Wiz says he left in 1976 due to the increasing amounts of Cocaine. That it was changing the band and the music. I dont think GD could be GD without psychedelics, cocaine, and heroin. All three stages provide me with differing styles and points of entry.

    Have more thoughts on all of this but need to post before computer fouls up and lose it.

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    In the nice little Rolling Stone/Special Collectors Edition magazine, the introduction, by Bobby, includes this quote....."For me, the shows we did in the late Eighties were our peak, our best era." Interesting how the musicians have different interpretations of shows/eras than the fans. I like them all, but since I missed the beginning through late 1973, I only have 1973-1995 as my reference point for the live experience. Would have loved to seem live in the late '60's, but soooo thankful for all the archival music.

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    They were still good, though

    I don't think anyone is suggesting that they didn't play any great shows after 1975, or that they are not worth listening to after that date. Chuck couldn't have put in any clearer - and that from first hand experience.
    I got Dicks Picks 33 on vinyl earlier this year - 10/9 and 10/10/76. They are both great - 10/9 is really good !

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    An excellent show, I remember when that first came out.. I was in heaven. It's got one of the better examples of the faster tempo Eyes of the World. That outro jam from He's Gone is special too, and who doesn't like the 77 Terrapins.

    Good points all around. I'm partial to 68 through 74 also, but I have to admit I like a good show or even good moments from any era or configuration. Listening to the Jam out of He's Gone from Englishtown as I write this. A great piece of improvisation.

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    Two things -

    On the archive there is a user/member - "Top Hat Crew". Guy has great recordings.

    From the guy I've gotten all of his "Terrapin Flyer" stuff. These guys are pretty damn good,,, seem to be out of Utah. Worth checking out in my book.

    PS - Like Jim in MD, I say the 80's hold a lot of gold. I only saw during the 80's. The sound may have changed after 75, but wasn't worst. They seem to turn on a dime in my book. As Jim once pointed out,,, if you stop at 75 you miss a lot of great tunes.

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    the psychedelic dimension

    Daverock You Nailed it From 1976 onward they lost something. They were still GREAT!! But the shows from 1968 to 1974 were the Best (In My Opinion ) I remember Phil saying something like.......When we came back from the year off (1975) we never got the Magic back that we had before. I saw them 40+ times before 1975 and 60+ after They changed as everything does and they were always Great, but to me pre 1975 was Magical like Daverock says the psychedelic dimension

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    Coke show

    Especially 2nd set

    Deadbase sez they left the stage for a short bit after Samson and then did the monster rest of the show.

    Hmm.

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    Yes, that song did benefit from having two drummers. I don't know, but I would have thought heroin, and to a lesser extent alcohol, also led to a simplification in style. Not that I'm saying there weren't still great shows, but they seemed to lose the psychedelic dimension from 1976 onwards. It's not easy to say what that dimension is exactly - it wasn't a formula - but you can recognise it when it's there. And when it's not.

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    42 years ago tonight I was at the Greek Theatre for an absolute knockout show with the Good old Grateful Dead. This was my favorite Dead show at the Greek, and also my favorite year that the Dead played there. Joan Baez brought a birthday cake out for Mickey Hart and the crowd sang him happy birthday. Where is that Complete Greek box set. Killer Morning Dew, Cumberland, and Other One.

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    Sampson benefited from two drummers.. if they ever performed the whole Terrapin Station Suite, I'm sure that would have rocked with two drummers. They had less of a turn on a dime, jazzy, all for one - one for all feel post haitus.

    No one ever mentions this.. but I suspect cocaine really piled on after their hiatus (pun intended) and this had more an effect than people realize. Not that it was a stranger prior to 1976, but I suspect this substance is more a distraction to the kind of focus it takes to get the full value of having two percussionists, whereas lysergic might have been a better mixer for that kind of sound.

    It's all history at this point, but we got Scarlet Fires, Help/Slip!/Franklins, Estimated>Eyes and a louder more forceful GD post hiatus. Sometimes you take what you are given for good or ill.

    Looks like a damned good lineup in Mexico this winter. Alumni of the GD, ABB, TTB and Goose playing under the billing of Dead Ahead. If I was lighting up hundred dollar bills to pass the time I'd be on that train, especially after the recent Wolf Bros reviews and the high energy of the last D&C tour. I kinda lost interest when the ticket prices went up and the energy and speed declined. Now I feel like I am missing something, which is a good thing.

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Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.


By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.


Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Wed, 07/26/2023 - 10:43

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back at cha!

Thanks!

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Wed, 07/26/2023 - 10:46

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Never been there, but in looking at pictures (over many years), it seemed like the design was off. Looks like a hard time seeing from lawn. Makes sense, used to have a small lawn where you can see. Now expanded into bad design. Why not upgrade the shed part of the property so that the whole lawn can see?

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Submitted by rasta5ziggy on Wed, 07/26/2023 - 10:48

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My favorite show in '79 was in Indy on 2/03.........have a poster from the show that I put dibs on at a local headshop........10 years later, Mouse signed it for me at an art show that was touring along with the band. It's a blue/orange day-glo of the back of Terrapin Station, which is his design........tix, as stated on the poster, were $6.50/$7.50 DOS................dem good 'ol days!!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 07/26/2023 - 11:29

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I hear what you guys are saying, and yeah, sight lines could be a challenge. Now, I’ve only been for the Dead 84 & 85, and maybe things are different now, but seeing the dead there/then was amazing! Camping for a couple daze around those grounds etc, sweetness, and one of the best parties we ever went to!
We always went to lower lawn, not too close so we could catch PA, but we could see ok. But it wasn’t much about seeing back then, and man, what a dance party out on that lawn in the pouring rain! You really did have to be there!
No, it’s not the rocks, or the Gorge, or the Frost or Greek, but it will always be one of my favorite venues just because of the setting/place and vibe. And the band went as nuts as we did, and always kicked ass!

Fun Toga story: in 84 we went a day early and they let us park/hang in the main lot area. (We had some fun jams with some dude playing Tull on Flute!) By next morning, overwhelming insanity.
So, after lighting up like NY all night, my Bud (ole BOO469) and I decide we need to rest up a little for the show, and yet another all night high wattage affair. So we grab our sleeping bags and venture into the park itself, find a nice quiet picnic shelter, and proceed to get comfy on the picnic tables.
Well shortly thereafter, park ranger comes round “no camping in the park”!
Well old Boo gives em the “what if we’re not camping” which kinda throws the guy. Boo continues “yeah, what if we’re just having a picnic” Rangers like, picnics ok, no camping, so Boo goes “well what if while we’re having our picnic, we decide we want to lay down for a few minutes and digest our big meal etc” Rangers like, picnics ok, no camping. So of course we adamantly tell him we are most certainly having a picnic in spite of any evidence to the contrary and he goes away, and we both got the most necessary rest needed, on our picnic ; )
The rest is history! Pheeeew, summer 85 baby!

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Submitted by ronmarley1 on Wed, 07/26/2023 - 12:52

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Got my shipping notice at 4:AM today. Left the UPS facility around 5:AM CA time. Says it’ll be here Tuesday, which is my day off! We’ll see…

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 07/26/2023 - 13:01

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Fate made it possible for me to attend Phil Lesh and Friends in 2006 at SPAC.

Glad I went even though the show itself was...kind of...not...amazing.

The venue itself was like people are describing.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 07/26/2023 - 13:03

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A raise of the glass

Another one bites the dust

Wow

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Submitted by bluecrow on Wed, 07/26/2023 - 13:20

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That's a great story, Oro! Boo quick on his feet, so to speak, just like ole Neal.

Hard to believe a venue would sell seats on the lawn without a view of the stage but that sounds like corporate America for ya.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 07/26/2023 - 15:58

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Have seen photos and possibly even Dead & Co video, but those don’t show you the bad view lines.

I’ve bought obstructed view seats in the past.

6-22-91 I bought a ticket at the box office the day of the show and the ‘obstructed view’ was obstruction by the soundboard. The tix they were selling at the box office were seats in the tapers section. So we actually scored floor seats, but had to stand in the aisle to the side of the soundboard to see the stage.

Pink Floyd 94 saw them on the floor of the Silverdome. The next day I bought an obstructed view ticket for that night and used my stub from the night before to get on the floor. Went by myself because I had to see them again, and it was the right decision. The show I saw had the same set list as the show on Pulse, set 2 complete DSOTM.

For GD in basketball stadiums I’ve had side/behind stage tix from mail order. Was fine with me, I was inside and those areas were less crowded. There were also speakers pointed in that direction.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 07/26/2023 - 19:50

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....I fear the fear of the cause. Her son committed suicide in '21.
I hope I'm wrong, but my senses say otherwise. Stupid senses.
She was a year older than me.

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Submitted by jjc on Thu, 07/27/2023 - 02:53

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Hell what about the shipping notice for the 8LP here comes sunshine release? This operation is pathetic. Phish and Garcia family provisions know what they are doing this crew is a ridiculous disaster.

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Submitted by onthebussince77 on Thu, 07/27/2023 - 05:23

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Already up at Amazon. Also announced on the latest GOGD podcast about Watkins Glen. The cd version includes two discs, with two demos at the end of disc one ("Eyes of the World" and "Here Comes Sunshine") and a selection from the surviving reels of the 11/1/73 show in Evanston on disc two (WRS; Morning Dew > Playing in the Band > Uncle John's Band > Playing in the Band; Mississippi Half-Step).

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 07/27/2023 - 06:24

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Candace Brightman? :-)

Wake was hidden on the dead site, I would have expected under "Music", "new releases". But nooooo, it's under "special collections".

It was free shipping from them, but the bastards dug deep into the wallet. An exclusive "blue" lp AND a picture disc version!!!! You're killing me!! Double cd collection seems nice. Apparently getting the meat of what's available for 11/1/73,,, my copy of 11/1 doesn't have Weather Report Suite,,, so nice.

PS - I've gotten a notice of shipping for 47,,, i think,,,, they're never really clear on "what's coming". Doubt the glass will come with it!

Also got quick response from Garcia people on whether or not vinyl and cd shipping together for garcialive 20. They made it sound like both are in one box.

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Thu, 07/27/2023 - 07:30

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He's the 5th member of Phish, running the most stunning moving light rig I've ever seen - it is groundbreakingly amazing, totally choreographed with everything that band does.

It's unmatched genius and has enhanced their shows with a True X Factor.

Sixtus

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 07/27/2023 - 08:18

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Interesting choice! Sorry HF, no WG…YET
I was hoping for a horn show, and/or think the bonus disc should have more songs off the album, BUT…
That being said, this is a hot set! We hit it this year on POTDWD, and though only the second set is currently available, it was a real doozey! And if only the second is in the vault, well I guess this is as good a way to get it out as any?
BUT…but, perhaps the most interesting factor is that it’s another 50th bonus that’s only one disc…
Guess only the big dogs (AB & WMD) will get full shows?
So, what’s that mean for Mars, especially since there’s a lot of carcasses from 74 to pick at.
And Blues then will only be 3/23/75 instead of 6/17//75, which means 6/17//75 when? Perhaps another 30 trips for 60th anniversary in gulp, just two years!
Yeah, kinda a bummer, silly me, I had been going through and trying to figure out what shows would have made the best bonus picks partly based on most songs off the corresponding album lol. Oh well, it was fun and who knows, maybe we’ll get Gainsville for Go To Heaven ; )

Uncle Sixtus! How’s it? Good to see ya!

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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Thu, 07/27/2023 - 08:33

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A lot of calls for a Gainesville release, which would be cool. An Anchorage box could be interesting as an Alaska Complete shows release. So many choices.

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Thu, 07/27/2023 - 17:29

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Take it to the Limit
Was he ever on of the reunion tours?

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Thu, 07/27/2023 - 17:33

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That would be a great mini-box, just like 10/9 & 10/10 82.
My guess for next DaP is 7-18/76, with its hard-to-beat set list.
Ideal 1976 choice would have been 10-15, but no tapes in the vault. One of the 2 best shows of the year, check it out on the Archive.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Thu, 07/27/2023 - 18:23

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1968 Carousel Ballroom.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 07/28/2023 - 02:21

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It was one of my most listened to tape back in the day. 11/6/77 broome was another one listened to at Davco farm in Southborough, Massachusetts keg parties in the 80's. Like anyone cares, but you could see Mt. Wachussett at the top of Davco hill. Sweet.

and raise ya a 9/26/76…

Love 7/18/76! Perhaps my favorite 76. But don’t want it released. Why not you rightly ask?
Because there’s only so many picks left and I already have such a good copy lol

47: starting its journey…I’m starting to get the anticipation “vibe”. Have listened to the shows around it and rehashed DaP 31 last week. Really not bad, just something…? Can’t explain?
Prolly just hung up on what should get released lol
Hell I even hit Bill Ricka last week

48: I’m guessing 9/26/91 or 10/31/91. He’s gotta do 91 sometime.
Though 6/22 could be wildcard…
There’s DATs right, so WTFN?

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Fri, 07/28/2023 - 07:41

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In yesterday's email.
UPS tracking says it left Fontana, CA at 4AM today.
Says expected Wednesday Aug. 2.
Glad UPS didn't have to strike. I hope they got what they needed.
Cheers

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Submitted by Gratefulhan on Fri, 07/28/2023 - 10:29

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I got my shipping notice for DaP 47 on 7/26. However I have no estimates as to when it will make its way to me. I am guessing I may get by Saturday of next week at the earliest. However sometimes I get surprised and things get here faster than expected.

I am looking forward to this one and it will be a nice change up from the HCS box. I am not complaining at all about those shows form that box, they are all awesome, but I like the variety. I still think 1979 is a under the radar year especially the early and late fall tours.

As for 48, Dave L said it going to be a really good one (I can't recall his exact words from his riverside chat), but I am curious. I feel like it is going to be a pre-hiatus based on Dave's excitement. Maybe we are getting the 7/28/73 show with the 7/27 soundcheck? I am not sure as we already are getting a healthy dose of 1973 this year. I know we all talk and speculate as to when the rest of the "big" and highly regarded shows will get released and 7/28/73 is certainly one of them. However I know that there is a lot of shows left in that category so it could be anything. I like the 1968 prospects, and of course 1970 has gems that are waiting to get out. Then there are more for 1972, 1973 and 1974. Everyone's opinions differ, but there is no shortage of long desired and overdue to be released shows.

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Fri, 07/28/2023 - 17:32

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2/9/73

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 07/28/2023 - 18:40

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....hey! I know that show!
But another '73 show on top of the box and Wake 50th bonus disc?
It's gotta be 1970. It's gotta be!!

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Submitted by jjc on Sat, 07/29/2023 - 04:50

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Really getting tired of Dave's picks shipping BS. Why is it so dam impossible to get these at the very least moving by release date? I have a shipping notice but the dam thing has gone nowhere. Getting old.

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Submitted by blueboy714 on Sat, 07/29/2023 - 05:14

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OK - I ordered 2023 Dave's Picks like I do every year. I was emailed a volume 47 ship confirmation but the tracking number I was given isn't found by USPS, UPS or FedEx. What gives? When I try to find more information on Dead.net I am told they are "migrating" their system (for about 5th time in 3 years) and they don't have past order history.

Like previous comments - WEA sucks. As much as I love the GD it might be time to stop ordering products from WEA because they can't do a darn thing right ... for such a big company.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Sat, 07/29/2023 - 05:36

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My favorite 50th anniversary release so far is Aoxomoxoa. I really like that they released the original version and not the remixed version. I never cared for that remixed version, same for Anthem of the Sun, I never liked the remixed version compared to the original mix..

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 07/29/2023 - 07:45

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My UPS tracking says:
UPS Mail Innovations Expedited

So, mine has been expedited.
Sweet

I think that ‘expedited’ is why it didn’t sit in Fontana for 5 days before beginning to move.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 07/29/2023 - 09:38

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Best album title ever

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Submitted by ronmarley1 on Sat, 07/29/2023 - 10:05

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just got updated. It’s in the USPS’ hands and I should have it Monday. Not to jinx it though…

Yes, the original Aoxoxmoxoa is a great album. In the 70's, in England, you could ( or at least I could) only get the remixed version,which is nowhere near as good a sthe original. The remix always sounded de-psychedelicised to me.
The original mix of Anthem is better than the remixed version too - although the remix isn't too bad either in that case.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 07/29/2023 - 13:40

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....for St. Louis AND the Phish Lawn Boy vinyl.
Phish is streaming their MSG shows audio on LivePhish. $9.99/mo. Worth it.
They also have this NFL style overhead skycam on their video streams at The Garden this tour.
Fancy, fancy.
The OG AOXOMOXOA mix IS better. Agreed.

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Submitted by thismikebenz on Sat, 07/29/2023 - 14:53

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I will listen to it tonight then probably rip it tomorrow. It is in good physical condition.

I didn't get one either.
Order status doesn't say it has shipped! Same as in earlier shipments.
Poor service!
G.

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Submitted by rowjimmy7 on Sun, 07/30/2023 - 09:35

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I wouldn’t worry about the shipping notice yet. I have received a number of Daves picks without one and sometimes the order status still shows that it hasn’t yet shipped after I received it. If another week or two and no CDs, ask for help. It only happened to me once, but there was one DaP that didn’t come after 5 weeks until I asked for help, and then I got it in a day or two.

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