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    Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.


    By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.


    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    I'm with Oro on the snow, no bueno.. it's a terrible drug that ruined many a life of the people I grew up with. It seemed my high school friends that didn't go to college all got 'high paying' jobs (for our age) in contruction, landscaping, cable companies, UPS, whatever.. and all started doing blow... and all experienced serious problems. Going to school, we couldn't afford it that much. A friend in 87 or so turned me on to the idea that the stuff was no good.. stay away.. Danger Will Robinson. And pretty quickly I heeded his advice.

    As to Chucks comments.. well said. I saw a few shows where I walked away wondering what could have been or what happened. One was that last show at RFK in 86. Well.. they got much better after that, then they got worse but still had their moments.

    In the end we got what we got.. if I have one regret it's that I wish I would have gone to a few more shows. In hindsight, I probably went to as many as I could afford. A very positive experience on my life, I am grateful for that.. and grateful that I got to meet many of you here, and for those I have not met yet.. I at least get to read about your excellent stories, views on life and takes on music and all good things.

    Oh, I really liked that interview with Whiz on recording Europe 72 and the most excellent 5/26/72, which they played on SiriusXM last night at 9. Serendipitous it comes up on these threads today. I will listen to it in its entirety very soon...

    Be well people.. rock on. or as Mr. Burns said after his first dead show:
    Excellent!

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    My memory fails as to his direct relationship. He was a technical type within the Organization. Now where placed I am not sure. Under Bear directly, maybe under Betty. In the documentary, he talks about the very last show of E72 and maybe some other things. He was the last tech in the recording truck, that is, recording switching tapes etc. This last show was pulling him in, blowing his mind. When Morning Dew came, he left and locked up the recording truck and went to go watch. He gives a deeply passionate discussion of that Morning Dew, that it was so incredibly emotive. That Jerry was crying, he began crying and was absolutely blown away with that version. He never went back to the truck and felt fortunate the remaining tape was able to record the whole show. That is my understanding, and from memory 4-5 years old, and my memory is not that great. May have to go back and watch Long Strange Trip, think it is still on Amazon. Might need to re-listen to that show as I became overwhelmed by the last years offerings and didn't make it through the whole E72 box this year. But can renew the listen as I am still digesting HCS and #47, and a lot of other stuff also. I also went thru the From the Vault 1-2.

    Here is a direct write up over at rick turner. Anyone want reference website, DM me or look up Grateful Dead's Wiz.

    May 12, 2020
    Dennis “Wiz” Leonard’s Notes on Europe ’72

    Here are my old friend, Dennis “Wiz” Leonard’s tech notes on the recording of the Grateful Dead’s great live album, “Europe ’72”. Most of my blog is my own writing, but I asked Wiz if I could share this, and he graciously said, “yes”. This is the clearest explanation of how Alembic did live recordings that I’ve ever seen. Wiz now works at Skywalker Sound…he went way big league!

    Dennis Wiz Leonard Europe ’72 Technical Liner Notes By Dennis Leonard
    “Less is more!” This was the motto of Alembic and many of the sound artists in the S.F. Bay Area’s growing community of folks trying to advance the state of the art in both “live” and “recorded” sound for rock ’n’ roll. One can hardly mention this philosophy to recording without touching on the Alembic PA system and its unique qualities.
    The new paradigm for live sound: the Alembic PA. In 1964 The Beatles played at Shea Stadium using a circular array of Vox Grenadier Column speakers, a box quite similar to the Shure Vocal Master Column. This approach to sound for a stadium was doomed even if all the girls did not scream. Fast-forward to ’67-70 and things were not much better.
    The Alembic PA was the first really hi-fi approach to a live system. It had direct radiator low-frequency elements rather than horn-loaded boxes, which were the standard. It was an electronically crossed-over three-way system using McIntosh MC-75, MC-275, and MC-3500 vacuum-tube amplifiers and Ampex MX-10 vacuum-tube mixers as the front-of- house console. It eventually evolved into the famous Wall of Sound. This was a philosophic approach, brainchild of The Bear, put together by some of the most talented engineers in the Bay Area, and the same philosophy was applied to the task of recording bands.
    Alembic Recording did not have a truck to pull up to a venue. We had gear, and we often built a studio at the venue in a room somewhere backstage. Sometimes we would haul the gear to the gig in a rental truck, then unpack and build the studio for the gig in the truck, take it apart when we were done, and take it back home.
    Recording Europe ’72 was a monumental task, and we came up with a great solution to building a truck which we could fly airfreight to and from Europe. A video-production company was letting go of a pair of cargo containers built for them to ship a portable video-production remote unit by airfreight. This was perfect—when set back-to-back, these two rode in the top of a 747 airfreighter. Each container was built around a reinforced floor, the sides and top latched on and off.
    We moved all of the components of our Ampex MM1000 16-track into a video chassis that put all 16 sets of AG-440 electronics down below the transport which was then on a 45 degree angle. This was not only more robust, but it was also going to allow us to run 14-inch reels. This took place in an all-night marathon. When we started, Ron Wickersham was not sure all of the original cabling would work. We were lucky it did! At around 5 am, the new machine was rolling; no cables needed to be cut or spliced from the original wiring loom!

    Another obstacle was that the capstan speed in an MM1000 was derived from line frequency. Ours was a 60-Hz machine and we were going to 50-Hz land. Ron came up with a solution which would also solve another problem down the road: He built a precision 60-Hz crystal oscillator; we drove a McIntosh 275 vacuum-tube amplifier and picked off a tap on the output transformer, which would give us 120 volts with enough current to run the capstan motor at our precise 60 Hz/15ips, also now immune to line-frequency fluctuation. The other problem arose when we tried to get Ampex to give us their 207 tape on 14-inch reels. Ampex 207 had a thinner backing; instead of the traditional 30 minutes one got out of a 10.5-inch roll, 207 would give us 45 minutes, so a 14-inch reel was going to run 90 minutes—very desirable when recording a band with long sets, like the Dead. Ampex would not build the reels; we had to do those ourselves. Remember, we were running the recorder’s capstan on an oscillator, so for building the reels we hooked up a variable-frequency oscillator. We would ramp the machine up to 60ips to pack the tape. Each of the 14-inch reels had a splice in it. Ron and Sue Wickersham and I spent a few nights at Alembic having a 14-inch- reel-building party.
    The recording rig was quite simple: “less is more.” We recorded the Dead quite often, so a lot of what we did for Europe ’72 had been tested and proven.
    We built the rig at Alembic. One of the newly procured containers had the 16-track and an outboard equipment rack, the other . . . a custom built cabinet which was our tape library, and this cabinet also had our monitor console, Revox two-track, cassette machine, and Orban reverb units mounted on top of it. A carpenter met us at Heathrow airfreight in London. When the gear arrived, we took the sides and tops off of the two containers (which were left there in storage for the tour) and had them forklifted into our rental truck for the tour. The container floors were about ten inches high, so after the two were in the truck, the carpenter secured them and built us a filler floor so that the recording truck would not have a split- level floor.
    We wired the truck up and hung drapes and the 4310 JBL monitors, as well as many other things at the first show venue, Wembley Arena.
    The flow of the rig, starting inside the venue, consisted of the following:
    Two nine-pair snakes plugged into a custom Alembic split. AC from the stage ran to the truck with the two nine-pairs. Once inside the truck, the AC power was conditioned in an automatic, motor-driven variac made by General Radio. This was to, hopefully, prevent severe voltage fluctuation. The split plugged into the rack, which held a patch bay and minimal gear. We had a couple of Ampex MX-10 tube mixers and some limiters. The limiters, by the way, were used only on vocals for our monitor mix; we did not want to do anything to the vocals on the 16-track record master.

    One of the big “less is more” philosophic bits of Alembic magic was the use of transformers in the input section of the MM1000. Ampex offered modules which plugged into an octal socket on the back of each 440 record amplifier. We used these sockets for the transformers, which would allow us to take microphone level right into the tape recorder, totally passive—no electronic noise added and no record console electronics to fail.
    The MM1000 fed a very small, 16-track Alembic monitoring console built by Ron. Janet Furman was our technical engineer and not only fixed things, but also set up the 16-track to the custom equalization we were using with the thinner-backed Ampex 207 tape. We could monitor, solo, and build a two-track mix on this. We recorded to a Revox B77 and a Sony cassette machine, and we also had some pretty simple spring reverbs for our two-track mixes.
    Shows seemed to generally fit on two 14-inch reels and a ten-inch reel or two. Tape changes were quite interesting: We did not have a lot of room and had practiced this quite a bit, and it took three of us to do this at high speed. In an effort to not run out of tape during a performance, we had an indicator-light system of communication. Under Jerry’s monitor wedge there were three small lamps mounted on a piece of wood. The lights could be lit from the truck. A green, yellow, and red light: Green = we are rolling and in record; yellow = if you can wind it down and stop, we need to change tape; red (if, in fact, the band did stop for us) = changing tape, not in record.
    This, of course, did not fit in with the way the Grateful Dead worked. There were not going to be any rules. Early in the tour, I tried a “yellow,” asking for a possible wind-down of the jam so that we could change tape. Even though this had been an idea we had discussed Stateside, Jerry was having no part of it! As I switched on the yellow light, I looked at Garcia on our 13-inch B&W TV monitor. He looked up at the camera, knowing I was watching, and simply smiled and nodded no in a very friendly way. Don’t fuck with the music!
    We did some tape changes while the band was playing. We really did not want to interfere with the flow of the music.
    I was in the truck for the tour, parked in front of the Ampex 16-track. Since we had no record console in the path to tape, the 16-track itself was actually the only place to make any level adjustments, so with our custom MM1000, all 16 of the AG440 record amplifiers were clustered together in two stacks of eight, easy to keep an eye on. Betty Cantor did our live two-track mix in the truck; she was around eight feet away. The band really had no set lists in those days, so as the show went down, I would write one on each of the tape boxes. Bob Matthews was at front of house. We would chat on our intercom after songs, and he, Betty, and I would decide how many stars to give a song: Three stars meant it was a really good performance! The star system was used when we got back home in order to focus on candidates for the Europe ’72 album.
    Twenty-two shows in two months (57 days) is a vacation tour. The current tour-booking standard is to average 4.5 shows a week, and the Grateful Dead Europe ’72 tour was booked at around 2.5 shows per week. It does not get much better! Although it was an amazing time, with many days off, we took recording this tour very seriously and there was no relaxation on a show day at all.
    It was a high time for everyone. The music was just amazing and for me not seeing any of it except on a small B&W TV was OK. I did, however, get inside on the last night. Due to circumstance, I was alone in the truck. We had, only minutes before, put a fresh 14-inch reel up and had 1.5 hours before the next tape change. A microphone onstage needed attention and I had to go inside. I did this with a bit of trepidation; I really did not want to simply leave the truck, but no one else was available and the mic needed to be fixed. The band was in a spacey jam and was very unlikely to produce levels which would be a problem on tape.
    I locked the truck, went inside, and quickly fixed the bad mic, which was just a bit loose on its stand. As I went for the stairs to leave, the band dropped into “Morning Dew,” which has always been a favorite tune of mine. I decided to stay. Dynamically, the levels in the truck—which was now “running itself”—were going to be fine, and I had to stay! I parked myself behind Jerry’s rig for the song, a time I will absolutely never forget.
    Fast-forward to Alembic Studios, 60 Brady Street, San Francisco. The band is choosing the final songs for the album. I am walking down the hall towards the control room. Jerry bursts out, very animated as he catches me, “Hey, Wiz. Guess what? ‘Morning Dew’ from the Lyceum is for sure going on the album.” (Big smile from Jerry.) He says, very emphatically, “And no one was in the truck!” (Bigger smile.) The Grateful Dead’s music was built on taking chances, embracing the unknown, letting serendipity have its hand. So the fact that, while no one was in the truck, a true pearl was recorded was not unusual at all! It was just an affirmation that we were letting the muse guide us in an invisible and mysterious way.
    The tour was a truly magical time. It changed my life forever! If I were to be marooned on an island with only one piece of music I could ever listen to, “Morning Dew” from Europe ’72 would be it. Jerry’s solo says it all!

    Oh… One more anecdote, I got back to SF after a quick trip to Vermont to get my dog Zach… Got back to Alembic in time to meet the gear, we were now at 60 Brady street… Big M (Bob Matthews) grabs me and says, “Hey remember we had to fast wind some tapes off, so I want you to play the tour, the whole tour, so all the reels are playback packed at “Tails out” the control room is yours” So I said, “hey I’ll just live here till it’s done, ok?” Big smile from Big M… What a drag, I had to play the whole tour, update thoughts (Star System) on quality and I put another pair of 4310’s in the back of the control room and played the room miss through them… (Surround sound) sat and did a live mix for I am not sure how long, I would play and sleep, sleep and play… But it was pretty constant… Stop every show to clean the heads….. Then I moved up to Fairfax and really slept..
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  • Gary Farseer
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    I have been dabbling in Goose's pool this year. Definitely very enjoyable stuff!

  • Gary Farseer
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    In the mid 80's we a had massive gak parties. Some lasting several days and going thru massive amounts of cocaine. My last dalliance was summer 1986, sort of lines up with other events of 1986. I was born with a heart condition, thought I should stop as the heart palpitations might lead to an arrhythmia. Just before that, Crack started to come out. Remember being in a friend's friends house that had turned into a Crack lab. Man were they a factory. Started to change my views about Coke. Trying to put puzzle together on 86. Only time I smoked crack was in Manhattan, August 86. My brother and I had just left the Blue Note watching Dizzy Gillespie. We were already high on white lightning (name for blotter - and yes there is that deeper connection to Bear and The Human Be-In). We were walking the streets around 2am and we come across a cat hanging out on the front of a brownstone. He was smoking and we started talking. We ended up buying bag of pot from him. He also pulled out another joint and fired it up and then passed to us. After smoking it he told us it was laced with crack. There was only one other time that I was that high and that is the show I wrote yesterday saying I would write about it next year on anniversary of show. We were so incredibly high, that at 3am on a packed subway, New Yorkers were freaking out watching us. It was a ball. I have posted about that night a couple of times here with a lot more detail. So somewhere summer/fall 86 was my last ride. Not sure of timing, remember the party but not the time. Know it was shorty after NYC August 86, but then when was the crack house event...timing of Jerry getting sick. It is all a big blur now. But dang, that feeling of doing two quarter gram lines up each nostril was absolutely amazing. That is, a buddy of mine took a gram divided into four lines and each took two.

    Hmmm, I do remember an ear nose and throat doctor soaking my throat with cocaine before she sent a camera up my nose and down my throat. That was 2004, so I guess that counts too.

    Everything has its purpose but all things in moderation. Guess that is why I never crossed the line and became an addict to anything.

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    ...headed to Goose the next two nights at the seaside pavilion in Boston; looks iffy with thunder expected for most of this afternoon/evening, but tomorrow looks good. Will be the start of their Fall tour here before they head to Europe in November for the first time. I've been on this ride for the past 18 months or so, and I have to admit it's been amazing so far with no limits in sight. Each show is literally the best show you've seen, until the next one. Where have we heard that one before?? They are on a true roll. For any who may be skeptical, this is a full-hearted prompt to go and dip that toe into the waters to see what its all about. A lot of stuff on The Tube with a U, and Bandcamp has all of their shows and albums to listen for free (it's all also on Nugs).

    Also saw that Phish announced their first festival in many years, holding a spot for next summer already.
    In Delaware of all places!
    Hey Garth, we're in Delaware....

    Be Well People!
    Sixtus

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    check DM.

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    No Bueno!

    It was around, luckily we were too poor for that. (It was expensive then)
    Occasionally, maybe for special occasions, or weddings or NYE etc, but fortunately only rarely.
    If you’ve never, don’t bother.

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    My understanding is the Fillmore 71 tapes were chopped up to use for Skull Fuck and other things.
    Supposedly that’s why they did Ladies and Gentlemen: to use the best of what was available…

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    Cocaine never appeared in my orbit when I was young, so I never took it either. I'm sure if it had appeared during my teens I would have had a dabble - I believed in living adventurously. I suppose I could have had a go later in life, but I never felt it was worth it, all things considered. I am not sure what the characteristics of a coke inspired jam would be.

    I would watch a biopic of Jerry if it was on the telly. But I would have very, very low expectations.

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    Recently listening to Three from the vault, St Louis 71, and Europe 72, I am just asking about the multitracks recordings if there is anything about Fillmore East 71 (a full show 27 or 29) or the final run at winterland in 74 (full show) - St louis is a good show but the sound is not as shining as the others. I return to the capitol 71 shows, they are so good, great shows as a quintet.

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Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.


By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.


Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

For those interested, there’s an upgraded video on the Tube of the 1981 Rockpalast show with Townsend. Very nice quality.

Mikaela Davis is awesome. I was fortunate enough to catch her with Bob and the Wolf brothers.

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Never been a big fan of the toy piano sound (or of the synth-pop 80s sound in general).
I don’t loathe it like some, but I don’t love it the way others do either.
Despite that, Dave’s 31 quickly became an unexpected repeat play.
This one rides that same vibe nicely.
Great energy all around.
Digging it so far.

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Rockplast show.

I watched a couple of years ago, maybe an upgrade?

Love it, cause they mixed Townsend out of the mix. I am guessing he was constantly interupting/overtaking the show.

Love Townsend and the Who. Guess this was a reslut of the Day on the Green shows?

I read a long time ago, that the dead had to set-up a side stage for themselves; and around 30,000-40,000 showed for the dead and another 20,000 or so showed up for the Who only. Losers...

Can anyone confirm the side stage? BTK, maybe you know???

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Yeah the 7/1 show was excellent.

I really enjoy the band.

Only critique, I wish John had spent some time with Trey Anastasia. I wish John had picked up on a lot of Jerry's effects. I am certain Big Steve could have helped with which pedals to use. And Trey could have shown him how to program and use. Would love to hear Jerry effects particularly in the late 1970's - 1980's. Maybe a touch of Midi.

But wow, the stuff Jerry could do with Tiger.

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I heard the above Jesse Winchester song this morning performed by Legion of Mary on the Sirius GD channel, as they are playing a great selection of Jerry’s solo career. I forgot how great this arrangement was, taken from the bonus disc “Absolute Mary” from “Legion of Mary Vol 1”.
Working with Hunter for so many years gave Jerry an innate intuition about great songwriting and about great songs he could make his own, as he transformed the works of so many great writers into something definitively his own. Putting this disc in rotation later, I hope more Legion sees the light of day.

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First listen and I'll say what I usually say when I'm not completely blown away. Good solid set! Not going negative on the mix as some have. Yeah the vocals are a bit higher in the mix but it is very clear and bright. Drums pop and cymbals are accurate which I didn't expect from what I've heard tell is a cassette master (is it?). Going to roll on through but second set may be a distracted listen with lots going on this Sunday morning. Baking a pecan pie (mammoth halves from Joe C. Williams of Troy, AL) to go with a big Sunday dinner tonight.
Cheers

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There's no side stage.
Seating is between 8.000 and 10.000.
All shows that night took place on the same stage.

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Yum. Pecan pie. My grandmother was from the Tidewater area of VA. I remember she was visiting us one Fall, it was my birthday, and I didn't want birthday cake (I was being a little tyrant I guess) so she said she'd bake me a pecan pie. I thought she was joking - I thought pie meant apple or pumpkin or, if you wanted to be fancy, lemon meringue. When this thing was finally served, I think I hate half of it... couldn't stop... so delicious. I don't know anything about Troy, AL, but quality pecans = quality pie. I'm jealous, 1STSHOW70878. Happy bakin'.

Yes indeed, '85 Grateful Dead is now criminally underrepresented. And I always see people wanting more releases with Shakedown. So what about 6/30/85? That one has a Shakedown that gets talked about in the "best ever" conversations. Releasing this show would satisfy a couple of constituencies!

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I’ll let you decide…
At least Dave discusses this consideration in the notes.
And note: he did specifically mention this tour and not Oct/November, or Oakland.
So we’ll compare accordingly.
Personally, I thought it was a very nice house, and I thoroughly enjoyed it, but evil picky DH still thinks maybe the wrong one comparatively, lol ?
I do think after one try I liked it better than DaP 31, so far…
Personal highlights were Candyman, Shakedown, Hightime, and both those cool space jams. (Not the bonus one but the bonus material was quality).
Oh, Samson, that was a ripper der.
Rest, solid late 79 status quo. (Which is good)
They bif the transition in Cassidy, but no train wreck, sorta yoush mess up.
Lazy Lightning Bob has issues, perhaps a lil miss in an otherwise nice BP. No big Oppsees, ORRR Hell Yeas!…
Overall good show, but I’d rank it middle of the tour pack comparatively. “So mr picky DH, what’s better”? Well, Dave won’t go there, but I will,lol.
Not in any particular ranking:
11/29/79 Cleveland Rocks!
11/30 & 12/1 need I say more? 12/1 set 2, tap, tap, tap…? Hello?
12/11, (12/10 only one I’ve not heard yet?

12/7 is nice, but I might give the nod to 12/9. Guess I haven’t heard the first from 12/4 so that might be interesting, as the second is good, and 12/5 is ok, but not top shelf? All based on my nothing opinion of course ; )
Hey, it’s nice to have quality shows to haggle about!
I think I’m gonna end up hitting this one some, every now and then, from time to time….
Good 73 palette cleanse too. After 2 times through HCS and hitting both Watkins Glen shows yesterday, even the unfortunate Danko stuff lol. Sorry Rick ; ) I’d heard the 27th, but not sure I’ve ever heard all of the 28th. Good shows, but again, comparatively, middle of 73 pack…but I digress. SQUIRREL!!!…Whhhaaa???, sorry…
Oh yeah, Audio, overall excellent (being I believe a cassette?). But of course caveat emptor not perfect…
They are getting good at fixing these cassettes, which is nice!
I’m curious to do some real time comparative analysis, including the end of year, bar setting Oakland shows.
But for now, just stoked to have some new hot dead to savor, regardless of what house it is ; )

EDIT: 6/30/85 Shakedown! Hell Yeah Son I’m here to Testify! Top Shelf Where Mana Hides the Cookies!

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PM addendum.
Thanks again, Cheers

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Now that they are using cassette backups for these releases, maybe we will get a Complete 1980 Warfield Theatre Box set, that would be cool. Assuming the backup tapes didn't get erased

....but just got home from a 7 hour road trip, so I'll check it out tomorrow.
XM played the '78 JGB show from the Warner Theater in D.C. today, which was sweet.
If memory serves me correctly, that was a Pure Jerry release back in the day. Those are going for a pretty penny.
Ok. Time to get high.

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I listened to set 2 and the bonus material driving to Oregon today, followed by disc 1 of 12 31 76

Yahoo!

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From what I heard, a lot of these tapes were erased and used for Brent's solo album, which of course never saw the light of day. If so, that would be a huge waste.

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Yeah, they erased some of the tapes for his solo album, but maybe they have cassette backups as well. I'm not sure.. They used cassette backups for this latest Dave's Pick #47, so maybe they have the same thing for the Warfield Theatre shows. I'm not sure, It m just wondering.

I always heard the multis were reused but there were supposedly some cassettes…
Think Conekid or someone has posted what’s been returned and I seem to recall there were some cassettes…
Think the 2 acoustic sets they released a couple years ago are from cassette?

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Can anyone direct me to a list(s) of what's in the vault? I know there's a recent Deadcast episode about the vault that features Lemieux, Gans, Rhoney Stanley, and Latvala's widow. But I'm wondering if a list exists, esp if it shows details like if a show has cassette masters etc. Thanks advance if you can help. I've poked around but have come up empty, other than various blogs which discuss specific shows.

As to Pure Jerry at the Warner Theater, yes indeed, that was the 6th release in the series - it dropped back in summer of 2005. That show will always have a special place in my heart. Harder They Come and Mission were the filler tracks on my cassette copy of 12/31/78 Set 3. That was one of the first live GD tapes I ever had, and I don't think it left my Walkman for 3 months straight. To this day I feel like I have every single note and beat of Mission memorized...

I don’t believe there is a circulating comprehensive vault list, but here is the ABCD returns list…

jgmf. blogspot. com/2020/09/the-new-alphabet-abcd-gd. html

Remove the spaces after the dots

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Recent Dead Head TV uploads to dreamswedreamed dot com:

Episode 009 January 1989:
New Year's Shows 1988/89 at the Oakland CA Coliseum Report
Deadhead New Year's 1988/89 Resolutions
Long Beach, CA Arena December 1988 Report
Jerry & Bob Alone and Together - Wiltern Theater, Los Angeles 1988
Deadhead Neighbors and the Kaiser Neighborhood

Episode 010 March 1989:
A Conversation with Dan Healy Part 1 of 3
Great Western Forum, Inglewood, CA February 10-12 Review
The Kaiser Tradition: February 5-7 1989 Report
Henry J. Kaiser Convention Center February 5-7 1989 Review
The Henry Kaiser Band: A Dark Star Performance

Episode 011 April 1988:
"In Concert Against AIDS" Benefit Press Conference March 22, 1989
A Conversation with Dan Healy Part 2 of 3
Benefit for Rock Artist Rights, SF Gift Center, March 22, 1989
Two New Deadhead Profiles

Episode 012 May 1989:
Spring Tour 1989 Report Part 1 - Atlanta to Louisville
A Conversation with Dan Healy Part 3 of 3
Kezar Stadium: Two Historic Grateful Dead Concerts
Dead Base: The Origins of the "Taper's Bible"

Episode 013 June 1989:
Spring Tour 1989 Report Part 2 - Rosemont to Minneapolis
Frost Amphitheater, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA 1989 Report
Irvine Meadows Amphitheater, Irvine, CA 1989 Report
New Grateful Dead Songs Report 1989

Episode 014 July 1989:
"In Concert Against AIDS" at Oakland Stadium, CA May 27, 1989
Shoreline Amphitheater, Mountain View, CA June 1989 Report
Dead Head TV Ice Cream Kids

It's all free. YT adds ads sometimes, not my doing. Please share with like-minded freinds.

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Saturday, September 05, 2020
The New Alphabet: ABCD GD
Here is a list of the Betty/Rex Grateful Dead recordings gathered together and returned to the Grateful Dead Vault in November 2016 by the ABCD group.

1979 - 11 REELS

• 02-17-79 Oakland CA, 9 x 7” REELS Nagra 1/2 trk15ips Complete
• 04-22-79 San Jose CA, 2 x 7” REELS Nagra 1/2trk 15ips Reel #7,#8

1980 - 11 REELS

• 09-27-80 SF CA, 2 x 7” REELS Nagra 1/2trk 7.5ips Acoustic
• 10-04-80 SF CA, 2 x 7” REELS Nagra 1/2trk 7.5ips Acoustic
• 10-06-80 SF CA, 2 x 7” REELS Nagra 1/2trk 7.5ips Acoustic
• 10-09-80 SF CA, 2 x 7” REELS Nagra 1/2trk 7.5ips Acoustic
• 10-10-80 SF CA, 1 x 7” REEL Nagra 1/2trk 7.5ips Acoustic
• 10-11-80 SF CA, 1 x 7” REEL Nagra 1/2trk 7.5ips Acoustic
• 10-13-80 SF CA, 1 x 7” REEL Nagra 1/2trk 7.5ips Acoustic

Cassettes

79*
78. 12/31/79 Oakland = 3
79. 0/00/80 Studio = 1
80. 1/24/80 Studio = 1
81. 2/00/80 Studio = 1
82. 9/25/80 Warfield = 1
83. 10/9/80 Warfield = 3 [NOTE *LABELED AS 10-7-80*]
84. 10/13/80 Warfield = 3
85. 10/14/80 Warfield = 4
86. *10/31/80 Radio City = 3 *= - 3 CASSETTES MISSING*
87. 5/6/81 Nassau = 1

That’s a list of what is believed to be returned by ABCD.
I don’t know if ABCD ever released an official list.

I’ve never seen a list of the Vault contents. I doubt that the Vault Masters would ever give that out in its entirety.
I don’t think that OSF will say what all was contained in Bear’s collection either.

....minor flubs but decent.
I will agree that the vox, especially Weir's are very up front, but that's what an EQ is for.
I admittingly have Grateful Dead burnout after my recent trip. I sometimes have too much too fast. It happens to the best of me.
Second set will have to wait a minute.
Been on a Blues Traveler kick since about an hour ago.

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Ill bet they release them together. "New ones coming as the old ones go".

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They played at the zoo recently and my daughter was one of the security detail at the front of the stage.

I saw a video that has her on the lower right frame with John Popper and band upper left.

That was very cool to see.

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It's true, they did record over many of the fall 80 MT's for the new Brent Studio Album.

Fear not.. it turns out I just unearthed a banana box in my attic with the missing Fall 80 reels, replaced with the new Brent Album studio album, fully mastered and complete. All they need is artwork, a fancy box glued together with discs stuffed inside while the glue is still oozing and hot.

Meaning, this lost Brent album will finally happen Rhino style. I am fedex'ing tomorrow to Lemieux for immediate release.

Agree with BTK's 79 title and choice.

Am berry, berry behind in my listening.. I just finished ripping the Sunshine Box, DaP47 and the last two Jerry releases.. what I want to know .... where did the time go.

Would love a field trip to the vault.. it would be a good Bolo puzzle prize, wouldn't it?

(no disrespect meant to Brent.. love the guy, if I could go back in time he'd have all the blank 24 track reels he would ever need). I'm partial to the Spartan Stadium show.. one of my early tapes. I got that and Maples Pavilion 2/9/73 the same day. They both hold a special place in my heart and mind.

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I’ve been dipping into ‘Everything keeps dissolving’ which is a book about Coil so I’ve re-listened to a couple of their more drone like albums
‘Time Machines’ - Coil
‘Queens of the circulating library’ - Coil

One of the most recent releases on the Another Timbre label is by Morton Feldman, this led me to an old favourite
Morton Feldman’s ‘Violin and String Quartet’ - Apartment House
Morton Feldman’s ‘for Philip Guston’ - Breuer, Engler and Schrammel

Then for something with more lyrics
‘City of gold’ - Molly Tuttle & Golden Highway.

My #47 has apparently cleared customs in the UK so should be on its way soon. Given the mail that is not arriving (credit card bill for this month) I hope it will make it.

Had them on my mind and meant to post for a couple of weeks. Maybe we do need to review the LSD/ESP shows. They are a great live band. Saw them in 1992 at a small college Fraternity House sponsored show. Was around 2,500 folks. And then in 2003, at a large city festival. Both shows were great. Have a tape of the 1992 show, in my still unopened box of old cassettes. Have a great soundboard of the Allman Brothers from March (?) 17th(?) 1970. Haven't heard in ages. Box has been sealed over 20 years. Who knows, maybe I have the fall 1980 masters. I also have an excellent December 30th 1986 board of the Nevilles opening for GD. It is a smoker. Again, sealed up.

As Mick Jagger used to say. I am still walking sideways down the hall, and yesterday gave a double cd called "Let It Rock" credited to the Jerry Garcia Band a spin. It's sparkling music - and Nicky Hopkins plays beautifully throughout. It's got a version of "Edward The Mad Shirt Grinder" on too - which is a plus for Quicksilver fans.
This is a live recording from Keystone Berkeley, 17 and 18th November 1975, should anyone not know.

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Dave’s 47 is an amazing pick. The second set opener pre drums is phenomenal. Funky Shakedown, slamming Samson, pretty High time, etc. I can’t get enough of it. I like it with Dave’s 31 and Dick’s 5 and Road trips V.3#1makes a great playlist for a snapshot of that moment in time. Yea it’s not 1977 or 1973, but the Grateful Dead are a Spectral Band of both time and Space. I like the variety just like JGB. Jerry’s voice was still so wonderful and tender too for this tour.

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I 2nd Daverock's assessment of this release really fun playing and high energy throughout. Super interesting and engaging release and the organ grinder is sick!!! The Let it Rock on there is extra hot and super tasty for me as well. I think it might be long out of print now so if you found one...nice look! Gonna go listen to this one again I think it's been a while.

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Last 5:
Medeski Martin and Wood-The Stone
Led Zeppelin-Japan Live '69
Mike Stern-Play
Led Zeppelin II
Shadowfax-Live

Am I the only one here who CAN'T Wait to get something, and then as soon as I play it 2 times, I CAN'T WAIT for the next thing?? I think it may be a sickness.
JGB-Let It Rock--I concur with DAVEROCK & DIREWOLF, it's a mighty fine Live compilation. Many more than 5 stars!!

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I agree 100% with DaveRock et al on “Let It Rock” - Garcia and Hopkins, although short lived, made some sweet sounds together. Nicky Hopkins is one of those guys like Jim Keltner that played on so many amazing albums as a player, that you could pull a random album from your collection, and there he is. Kinks, Stones, the Who, the Airplane, etc etc. If you can get a copy of his solo LP, “The Tin Man Was A Dreamer”, it is a good listen with a great band, including George (Harrison) O’Hara.
There is a fascinating book on him, too, called “And on piano…”, detailing his incredible career. Gone far too soon.

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as well. Nicky was a classy and inventive contributor. What's sad is the Garcia Live release of the 12/31/75 show. Nicky is obviously hammered and plays all over everyone else, making the show virtually unlistenable (to me). I believe that marked the end of his tenure with the JGB.

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Dave's 44 & 41 have them too.
That's as far back as I went to see if there were any more.
I stand them up on the stereo to see it when I'm playing them.
Doesn't have to be a box to have cool packaging.
Thanks Dave and team.
Cheers
Kemo's on point. That 2nd disc is the bomb of DaP47. And I like the clarity of the sound regardless of the vocal mix.

Miss you man!

I was in Winston- Salem NC. As I walked into a large mall there was a group of hippies out front weeping. I had no idea until I walked into the mall.

Speaking of HIPPIES...turned by AXS tv a week or two back and they are re-running the Monkeys. On the show dated 12/26/1966 they use the term hippies. Did not realize that term was developed prior to March of 1967. Oh well, always need another rabbit hole to go down.

To me as a kid in late 1960's and early 1970's, I never had any idea how much watching the Monkeys would change my life. BTW, we had cable tv in the 1960's. It was the company that eventually became Comcast.

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Hippies etymology on wiki was a full page.
Very interesting and divided into categories by era. Goes way back.
Hep, hip, hipster, hep cat all came before and as early as early 1900s.
Some music references from '30s - '40s and lots from rock & roll late '50s.
Even comedian Steve Allen made a claim about using it around 1963.
I vaguely remember politicos like Barry Goldwater using it in a derogatory way.
I'm only 66 but I've been calling myself a card carrying hippy since my teens.
Always considered it a counterculture badge of distinction.
Cheers

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