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    Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.


    By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.


    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    I'm with Oro on the snow, no bueno.. it's a terrible drug that ruined many a life of the people I grew up with. It seemed my high school friends that didn't go to college all got 'high paying' jobs (for our age) in contruction, landscaping, cable companies, UPS, whatever.. and all started doing blow... and all experienced serious problems. Going to school, we couldn't afford it that much. A friend in 87 or so turned me on to the idea that the stuff was no good.. stay away.. Danger Will Robinson. And pretty quickly I heeded his advice.

    As to Chucks comments.. well said. I saw a few shows where I walked away wondering what could have been or what happened. One was that last show at RFK in 86. Well.. they got much better after that, then they got worse but still had their moments.

    In the end we got what we got.. if I have one regret it's that I wish I would have gone to a few more shows. In hindsight, I probably went to as many as I could afford. A very positive experience on my life, I am grateful for that.. and grateful that I got to meet many of you here, and for those I have not met yet.. I at least get to read about your excellent stories, views on life and takes on music and all good things.

    Oh, I really liked that interview with Whiz on recording Europe 72 and the most excellent 5/26/72, which they played on SiriusXM last night at 9. Serendipitous it comes up on these threads today. I will listen to it in its entirety very soon...

    Be well people.. rock on. or as Mr. Burns said after his first dead show:
    Excellent!

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    My memory fails as to his direct relationship. He was a technical type within the Organization. Now where placed I am not sure. Under Bear directly, maybe under Betty. In the documentary, he talks about the very last show of E72 and maybe some other things. He was the last tech in the recording truck, that is, recording switching tapes etc. This last show was pulling him in, blowing his mind. When Morning Dew came, he left and locked up the recording truck and went to go watch. He gives a deeply passionate discussion of that Morning Dew, that it was so incredibly emotive. That Jerry was crying, he began crying and was absolutely blown away with that version. He never went back to the truck and felt fortunate the remaining tape was able to record the whole show. That is my understanding, and from memory 4-5 years old, and my memory is not that great. May have to go back and watch Long Strange Trip, think it is still on Amazon. Might need to re-listen to that show as I became overwhelmed by the last years offerings and didn't make it through the whole E72 box this year. But can renew the listen as I am still digesting HCS and #47, and a lot of other stuff also. I also went thru the From the Vault 1-2.

    Here is a direct write up over at rick turner. Anyone want reference website, DM me or look up Grateful Dead's Wiz.

    May 12, 2020
    Dennis “Wiz” Leonard’s Notes on Europe ’72

    Here are my old friend, Dennis “Wiz” Leonard’s tech notes on the recording of the Grateful Dead’s great live album, “Europe ’72”. Most of my blog is my own writing, but I asked Wiz if I could share this, and he graciously said, “yes”. This is the clearest explanation of how Alembic did live recordings that I’ve ever seen. Wiz now works at Skywalker Sound…he went way big league!

    Dennis Wiz Leonard Europe ’72 Technical Liner Notes By Dennis Leonard
    “Less is more!” This was the motto of Alembic and many of the sound artists in the S.F. Bay Area’s growing community of folks trying to advance the state of the art in both “live” and “recorded” sound for rock ’n’ roll. One can hardly mention this philosophy to recording without touching on the Alembic PA system and its unique qualities.
    The new paradigm for live sound: the Alembic PA. In 1964 The Beatles played at Shea Stadium using a circular array of Vox Grenadier Column speakers, a box quite similar to the Shure Vocal Master Column. This approach to sound for a stadium was doomed even if all the girls did not scream. Fast-forward to ’67-70 and things were not much better.
    The Alembic PA was the first really hi-fi approach to a live system. It had direct radiator low-frequency elements rather than horn-loaded boxes, which were the standard. It was an electronically crossed-over three-way system using McIntosh MC-75, MC-275, and MC-3500 vacuum-tube amplifiers and Ampex MX-10 vacuum-tube mixers as the front-of- house console. It eventually evolved into the famous Wall of Sound. This was a philosophic approach, brainchild of The Bear, put together by some of the most talented engineers in the Bay Area, and the same philosophy was applied to the task of recording bands.
    Alembic Recording did not have a truck to pull up to a venue. We had gear, and we often built a studio at the venue in a room somewhere backstage. Sometimes we would haul the gear to the gig in a rental truck, then unpack and build the studio for the gig in the truck, take it apart when we were done, and take it back home.
    Recording Europe ’72 was a monumental task, and we came up with a great solution to building a truck which we could fly airfreight to and from Europe. A video-production company was letting go of a pair of cargo containers built for them to ship a portable video-production remote unit by airfreight. This was perfect—when set back-to-back, these two rode in the top of a 747 airfreighter. Each container was built around a reinforced floor, the sides and top latched on and off.
    We moved all of the components of our Ampex MM1000 16-track into a video chassis that put all 16 sets of AG-440 electronics down below the transport which was then on a 45 degree angle. This was not only more robust, but it was also going to allow us to run 14-inch reels. This took place in an all-night marathon. When we started, Ron Wickersham was not sure all of the original cabling would work. We were lucky it did! At around 5 am, the new machine was rolling; no cables needed to be cut or spliced from the original wiring loom!

    Another obstacle was that the capstan speed in an MM1000 was derived from line frequency. Ours was a 60-Hz machine and we were going to 50-Hz land. Ron came up with a solution which would also solve another problem down the road: He built a precision 60-Hz crystal oscillator; we drove a McIntosh 275 vacuum-tube amplifier and picked off a tap on the output transformer, which would give us 120 volts with enough current to run the capstan motor at our precise 60 Hz/15ips, also now immune to line-frequency fluctuation. The other problem arose when we tried to get Ampex to give us their 207 tape on 14-inch reels. Ampex 207 had a thinner backing; instead of the traditional 30 minutes one got out of a 10.5-inch roll, 207 would give us 45 minutes, so a 14-inch reel was going to run 90 minutes—very desirable when recording a band with long sets, like the Dead. Ampex would not build the reels; we had to do those ourselves. Remember, we were running the recorder’s capstan on an oscillator, so for building the reels we hooked up a variable-frequency oscillator. We would ramp the machine up to 60ips to pack the tape. Each of the 14-inch reels had a splice in it. Ron and Sue Wickersham and I spent a few nights at Alembic having a 14-inch- reel-building party.
    The recording rig was quite simple: “less is more.” We recorded the Dead quite often, so a lot of what we did for Europe ’72 had been tested and proven.
    We built the rig at Alembic. One of the newly procured containers had the 16-track and an outboard equipment rack, the other . . . a custom built cabinet which was our tape library, and this cabinet also had our monitor console, Revox two-track, cassette machine, and Orban reverb units mounted on top of it. A carpenter met us at Heathrow airfreight in London. When the gear arrived, we took the sides and tops off of the two containers (which were left there in storage for the tour) and had them forklifted into our rental truck for the tour. The container floors were about ten inches high, so after the two were in the truck, the carpenter secured them and built us a filler floor so that the recording truck would not have a split- level floor.
    We wired the truck up and hung drapes and the 4310 JBL monitors, as well as many other things at the first show venue, Wembley Arena.
    The flow of the rig, starting inside the venue, consisted of the following:
    Two nine-pair snakes plugged into a custom Alembic split. AC from the stage ran to the truck with the two nine-pairs. Once inside the truck, the AC power was conditioned in an automatic, motor-driven variac made by General Radio. This was to, hopefully, prevent severe voltage fluctuation. The split plugged into the rack, which held a patch bay and minimal gear. We had a couple of Ampex MX-10 tube mixers and some limiters. The limiters, by the way, were used only on vocals for our monitor mix; we did not want to do anything to the vocals on the 16-track record master.

    One of the big “less is more” philosophic bits of Alembic magic was the use of transformers in the input section of the MM1000. Ampex offered modules which plugged into an octal socket on the back of each 440 record amplifier. We used these sockets for the transformers, which would allow us to take microphone level right into the tape recorder, totally passive—no electronic noise added and no record console electronics to fail.
    The MM1000 fed a very small, 16-track Alembic monitoring console built by Ron. Janet Furman was our technical engineer and not only fixed things, but also set up the 16-track to the custom equalization we were using with the thinner-backed Ampex 207 tape. We could monitor, solo, and build a two-track mix on this. We recorded to a Revox B77 and a Sony cassette machine, and we also had some pretty simple spring reverbs for our two-track mixes.
    Shows seemed to generally fit on two 14-inch reels and a ten-inch reel or two. Tape changes were quite interesting: We did not have a lot of room and had practiced this quite a bit, and it took three of us to do this at high speed. In an effort to not run out of tape during a performance, we had an indicator-light system of communication. Under Jerry’s monitor wedge there were three small lamps mounted on a piece of wood. The lights could be lit from the truck. A green, yellow, and red light: Green = we are rolling and in record; yellow = if you can wind it down and stop, we need to change tape; red (if, in fact, the band did stop for us) = changing tape, not in record.
    This, of course, did not fit in with the way the Grateful Dead worked. There were not going to be any rules. Early in the tour, I tried a “yellow,” asking for a possible wind-down of the jam so that we could change tape. Even though this had been an idea we had discussed Stateside, Jerry was having no part of it! As I switched on the yellow light, I looked at Garcia on our 13-inch B&W TV monitor. He looked up at the camera, knowing I was watching, and simply smiled and nodded no in a very friendly way. Don’t fuck with the music!
    We did some tape changes while the band was playing. We really did not want to interfere with the flow of the music.
    I was in the truck for the tour, parked in front of the Ampex 16-track. Since we had no record console in the path to tape, the 16-track itself was actually the only place to make any level adjustments, so with our custom MM1000, all 16 of the AG440 record amplifiers were clustered together in two stacks of eight, easy to keep an eye on. Betty Cantor did our live two-track mix in the truck; she was around eight feet away. The band really had no set lists in those days, so as the show went down, I would write one on each of the tape boxes. Bob Matthews was at front of house. We would chat on our intercom after songs, and he, Betty, and I would decide how many stars to give a song: Three stars meant it was a really good performance! The star system was used when we got back home in order to focus on candidates for the Europe ’72 album.
    Twenty-two shows in two months (57 days) is a vacation tour. The current tour-booking standard is to average 4.5 shows a week, and the Grateful Dead Europe ’72 tour was booked at around 2.5 shows per week. It does not get much better! Although it was an amazing time, with many days off, we took recording this tour very seriously and there was no relaxation on a show day at all.
    It was a high time for everyone. The music was just amazing and for me not seeing any of it except on a small B&W TV was OK. I did, however, get inside on the last night. Due to circumstance, I was alone in the truck. We had, only minutes before, put a fresh 14-inch reel up and had 1.5 hours before the next tape change. A microphone onstage needed attention and I had to go inside. I did this with a bit of trepidation; I really did not want to simply leave the truck, but no one else was available and the mic needed to be fixed. The band was in a spacey jam and was very unlikely to produce levels which would be a problem on tape.
    I locked the truck, went inside, and quickly fixed the bad mic, which was just a bit loose on its stand. As I went for the stairs to leave, the band dropped into “Morning Dew,” which has always been a favorite tune of mine. I decided to stay. Dynamically, the levels in the truck—which was now “running itself”—were going to be fine, and I had to stay! I parked myself behind Jerry’s rig for the song, a time I will absolutely never forget.
    Fast-forward to Alembic Studios, 60 Brady Street, San Francisco. The band is choosing the final songs for the album. I am walking down the hall towards the control room. Jerry bursts out, very animated as he catches me, “Hey, Wiz. Guess what? ‘Morning Dew’ from the Lyceum is for sure going on the album.” (Big smile from Jerry.) He says, very emphatically, “And no one was in the truck!” (Bigger smile.) The Grateful Dead’s music was built on taking chances, embracing the unknown, letting serendipity have its hand. So the fact that, while no one was in the truck, a true pearl was recorded was not unusual at all! It was just an affirmation that we were letting the muse guide us in an invisible and mysterious way.
    The tour was a truly magical time. It changed my life forever! If I were to be marooned on an island with only one piece of music I could ever listen to, “Morning Dew” from Europe ’72 would be it. Jerry’s solo says it all!

    Oh… One more anecdote, I got back to SF after a quick trip to Vermont to get my dog Zach… Got back to Alembic in time to meet the gear, we were now at 60 Brady street… Big M (Bob Matthews) grabs me and says, “Hey remember we had to fast wind some tapes off, so I want you to play the tour, the whole tour, so all the reels are playback packed at “Tails out” the control room is yours” So I said, “hey I’ll just live here till it’s done, ok?” Big smile from Big M… What a drag, I had to play the whole tour, update thoughts (Star System) on quality and I put another pair of 4310’s in the back of the control room and played the room miss through them… (Surround sound) sat and did a live mix for I am not sure how long, I would play and sleep, sleep and play… But it was pretty constant… Stop every show to clean the heads….. Then I moved up to Fairfax and really slept..
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  • Gary Farseer
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    I have been dabbling in Goose's pool this year. Definitely very enjoyable stuff!

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    In the mid 80's we a had massive gak parties. Some lasting several days and going thru massive amounts of cocaine. My last dalliance was summer 1986, sort of lines up with other events of 1986. I was born with a heart condition, thought I should stop as the heart palpitations might lead to an arrhythmia. Just before that, Crack started to come out. Remember being in a friend's friends house that had turned into a Crack lab. Man were they a factory. Started to change my views about Coke. Trying to put puzzle together on 86. Only time I smoked crack was in Manhattan, August 86. My brother and I had just left the Blue Note watching Dizzy Gillespie. We were already high on white lightning (name for blotter - and yes there is that deeper connection to Bear and The Human Be-In). We were walking the streets around 2am and we come across a cat hanging out on the front of a brownstone. He was smoking and we started talking. We ended up buying bag of pot from him. He also pulled out another joint and fired it up and then passed to us. After smoking it he told us it was laced with crack. There was only one other time that I was that high and that is the show I wrote yesterday saying I would write about it next year on anniversary of show. We were so incredibly high, that at 3am on a packed subway, New Yorkers were freaking out watching us. It was a ball. I have posted about that night a couple of times here with a lot more detail. So somewhere summer/fall 86 was my last ride. Not sure of timing, remember the party but not the time. Know it was shorty after NYC August 86, but then when was the crack house event...timing of Jerry getting sick. It is all a big blur now. But dang, that feeling of doing two quarter gram lines up each nostril was absolutely amazing. That is, a buddy of mine took a gram divided into four lines and each took two.

    Hmmm, I do remember an ear nose and throat doctor soaking my throat with cocaine before she sent a camera up my nose and down my throat. That was 2004, so I guess that counts too.

    Everything has its purpose but all things in moderation. Guess that is why I never crossed the line and became an addict to anything.

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    ...headed to Goose the next two nights at the seaside pavilion in Boston; looks iffy with thunder expected for most of this afternoon/evening, but tomorrow looks good. Will be the start of their Fall tour here before they head to Europe in November for the first time. I've been on this ride for the past 18 months or so, and I have to admit it's been amazing so far with no limits in sight. Each show is literally the best show you've seen, until the next one. Where have we heard that one before?? They are on a true roll. For any who may be skeptical, this is a full-hearted prompt to go and dip that toe into the waters to see what its all about. A lot of stuff on The Tube with a U, and Bandcamp has all of their shows and albums to listen for free (it's all also on Nugs).

    Also saw that Phish announced their first festival in many years, holding a spot for next summer already.
    In Delaware of all places!
    Hey Garth, we're in Delaware....

    Be Well People!
    Sixtus

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    check DM.

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    No Bueno!

    It was around, luckily we were too poor for that. (It was expensive then)
    Occasionally, maybe for special occasions, or weddings or NYE etc, but fortunately only rarely.
    If you’ve never, don’t bother.

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    My understanding is the Fillmore 71 tapes were chopped up to use for Skull Fuck and other things.
    Supposedly that’s why they did Ladies and Gentlemen: to use the best of what was available…

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    Cocaine never appeared in my orbit when I was young, so I never took it either. I'm sure if it had appeared during my teens I would have had a dabble - I believed in living adventurously. I suppose I could have had a go later in life, but I never felt it was worth it, all things considered. I am not sure what the characteristics of a coke inspired jam would be.

    I would watch a biopic of Jerry if it was on the telly. But I would have very, very low expectations.

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    Recently listening to Three from the vault, St Louis 71, and Europe 72, I am just asking about the multitracks recordings if there is anything about Fillmore East 71 (a full show 27 or 29) or the final run at winterland in 74 (full show) - St louis is a good show but the sound is not as shining as the others. I return to the capitol 71 shows, they are so good, great shows as a quintet.

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Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.


By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.


Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

I was lucky enough to see Little Richard in 1999, on a great bill that included Jerry Lee Lewis ( with James Burton on guitar) and Chuck Berry. George Harrison was seated across the isle from me.
All those artists are incendiary. There's some great clips of Little Richard online. "The Girl Can't Help It" -the 1956 film is something else, also featuring clips of Eddie Cochran and Gene Vincent and the Bluecaps to great effect. Plus Julie London appears as a ghost singing "Cry Me A River". It's full of the attitudes of the day - so you have to bear that in mind, too.
The origins of rock n' roll is a fascinating subject with no right answer as to where it started. The post war years ( that's the second world war - there have been so many since..) in America up to about 1960 were incredible. Just looking at record labels - any compilation of SUN or Chess records from the 1950's will be full of brilliant records, many of which weren't apparently known about at the time of their release. Only two weeks ago, I bought a box set called "The Speciality Story" which was Little Richard's label. 5cds, and 90% of the artists I have never even heard of. H-Bomb Ferguson? It came out in the early 90's - if you see a second hand copy floating around it's well worth taking a punt. R'N'B - gospel - rock n' roll is what's on offer here. When Little Richard appears the blue touch paper has been lit. Amazing how so much of this music seemed to slip under the radar of mainstream America.

For The Dead - definitely - 3/2/69 would make a perfect RSD release.

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I know this is a long shot but I'd like to see Oxford Plains Speedway, 7-2-1988 come out as a Dave's Pick. Since 7-3-1988 was released with the 30 Trips Box Set I'd say it's not impossible. The Morning Dew is great, in my opinion anyway. Really the whole second set is top notch. Of course I'm biased since that was my first Dead show but I think it is a worthy show for release. Iko Iko and Jack Straw to open the show is pretty good too!

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DaP 45 - 77
DaP 46 - 72
DaP 47 - 79
DaP 48 - has to be from 67-69, maybe 70.
Unless 3-2-69 vinyl is released for Black Friday RSD. In that case DaP 48 should be 10-31-91.

....King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard - Fishing For Fishies
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
GOGD - 7.17.76 Orpheum Theatre
Cowboy Junkies - Such Ferocious Beauty
Phish - 2.20.93 Roxy, Atlanta, GA
The new Junkies release is as melancholy as ever. Not for everyone lol. Gotta be in a certain mindset. My wife wasn't at the time. "So depressing Vinnie." I guess? But Margo's voice just draws me in. Forgive me.
Edit. How was Bobby & Wolf Bros Bluecrow? I see they played the entire Terrapin Station Suite, Salt Lake City and GSET. Very nice.
I saw them a couple of years ago and was not disappointed.
Edit again. It's up on livemusicarchive. Firing it up now.
Ooooh. There are horns and winds?
Nice recording as well. God Bless the tapers.
Nice pedal slide I hear as well.
Last six.

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Hey Deadheads, got an opportunity to catch Buddy Guy on his farewell tour next month. Anybody seen him lately? Myself personally I'm not a big blues fan but this man is 87 and still out there putting it out. Got to give him some credit for that for sure.
I did catch a documentary or a show that he was on, about him or something like that, can't really remember but if I remember anything it's that dude can play. Still plenty of good tickets available at the box office for under 50 bucks.
It's at Harrah's Cherokee casino in the mountains a hour of so away, driving thru the mountains in late October makes for some fantastic views and killer colors.

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....looks like he played Vegas on 8.1. I was unaware. Darn.

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How was the show, BlueCrow? VGuy got me to look at the setlist and check out a sample on the Archive.

Interesting and appealing.. Love the full WRS (with horns) and the full Terrapin Stations too.

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PT - I can't remember exactly the last time I saw him live - not that long go - maybe 2016. He was definitely worth seeing then- still unleashing solos like a hurricane. You might like to check out " Champagne and Reefer" that he played with The Stones circa 2006 - he could sing too!
Of his albums, my favourites are one called "Blues Giant" ( also known as Stone Crazy!), which is captures him at his wildest, and "Sweet Tea" which is more hypnotic. He must be the last of his generation from within the blues world still playing.

RIp Pigpen ! The original leader of the dead. Pigpen is one of a kind! 100% Heart & soul he brought to the dead!! God bless him , happy birthday Pigpen! Peace be with you! 🙏❤️💀🌹

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On 7/2/88 if that rhyming 8 ain't from '68. I advocated that previously, partly because I like that one a bit more than the next night released in 30 Trips. Figured that was coming as a Dave's Picks fairly soon after. And room for filler, as it should fit on 2 discs. I had no idea those shows were so massive until seeing pics in an article for 35th anniversary, made me look up other pics, as people were talking 250,000+. I really hope we get 2 or 3 '68 shows for DaP 48, and would love DaP 51 to be 7/2/88. Either would be fun.

That nice recording was done by A Top Hat Crew Recording. One of the nice things about the archive is the lnk system. Followed the lnks to Top Hat recordings,,,, downloading a DSO chunk right now,,, great recording.

If you go to Bob lnk over to Top Hat.

Buddy Guy was along for the ride in Festival Express, that 1970 train movie through Canada that's well worth a revisit for an inside look at the way things were, one of the older musicians then. He performed locally a couple times not that long ago, one show he played his guitar out into the audience, sauntered to the back of an 800 seat venue and up into the balcony, he stopped to rock out and dance at times, it was phenomenal. I worked various shows as usher and stage security at that location and helped facilitate his moves that night.

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Hey PT - I saw Buddy Guy at Wolftrap in June. It was a really good show, but man is he old and it shows. I can tell you that he had a very large supporting cast and overall I give it a B+. The gal he has singing with him is tremendous, you won't regret it, just don't go in thinking you're going to see Buddy shred all night.

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DMCVT reminded me of The Ice Pick (and also called the Master of the Telecaster), Albert Collins.
That was far enough back he didn't have a cordless rig so he had like a 100 ft. cord and would duck walk and dance his way slowly down the main aisle and in the small venue I saw him in he actually went through the double doors and into the pool hall part of the bar. Much to the displeasure of the rednecks playing pool who were not there to see him it seemed. Hilarious and unexpected. What a showman!
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Oh wait, that was the Salt Lake Valley.

This is Park City, a mountain idyll.

Awesome fun show. Absolute picture perfect late summer mountain weather. Chillest scene of any show I've ever been to. This was part of a music and wellness festival. Among other events, Jay Blakesberg had curated an exhibit of photos (his and others) documenting the history of the GD, set out on a grassy plaza and when I arrived he was giving an informal walking tour through it, maybe 30 - 40 people. Spoke passionately of the Sacred Contract some of us have with the band and their music.

Along with my brother, with a close friend and colleague (SLC native who saw '87 GD Park West show among others) and his wife. Our word for the venue was "intimate". Temporary stage in Canyon Village (old Park West) opening on a relatively small patch of steeply sloping cool grass. Blankets and lawn chairs and plenty of room. Maybe 3000 people(?). Venue footprint was not that of the '83 and '87 shows - '87 show maybe within a couple hundred meters but memories were fuzzy. One long set, 2-1/2 hrs: single set seems to be the way for the festival appearances.

Does bluecrow like horns? Check, check, check!
Fiddle and cello? Check, check!
Pedal steel? Check!

Weir, Chimenti, Lane, Was, the Wolfpack. What a treat to hear that band.

Sweet Cassidy opener. Super special Utah two-fer with Salt Lake City and Friend of the Devil. Oh man. Queen Jane a return to show days in 1987. Weather Report Suite was a personal highlight. Horns ala 1973 plus those strings and steel. So cool.

The 3 guest artists were like a special mid-set interlude. Living legend Rambling Jack Elliot on Baby Tonight?? 92 years old, crusty as you might imagine, and just exactly perfect in that way. Didn't seem to want to leave the stage after just one song - as my brother said, "The biscuit was hot!" The Looks Like Rain duet with Brittany Spencer was stunningly beautiful. And then JD Souther and Heartache Tonight ("Nice to hear this song with the horns. Wow!" - JD Souther.) It was nice for sure!

And then back to the regularly scheduled programming. Greatest Story, New Speedway > Other One (V1 and V2) > Wharf Rat > Terrapin Station Suite, Ripple.

Loved it all (the vibe of New Speedway has been really resonating with me for a good while.) There were points in Wharf Rat that felt like being in Cowboy Church, not down by the wharf. Pre-show I had thought a Terrapin was in the air, Ripple too, but when they segued into At a Siding it was no freaking way - Full Suite Ahead!! Yeah, V-guy, Terrapin Flyer!!

As always, Ripple was a jewel.

Special after show treat was riding the Cabriolet, a small, open bucket, gondola lift that runs from a lower parking lot up to the village. By 10:50 pm quiet dark cool night, just the low hum of the cable, as you pass over the a network of streets. Very very cool. My brother and I stayed in the village, so we rode it down with friends who were headed back to SLC and then back up again.

A sweet special night night for the memory books. Special thanks to Top Hat Crew for taping : )

Grew up in the Chicago area and saw him several times, but never in a small club setting, alas. One of my more memorable club shows was at his original Checkerboard Club on the South Side ca. summer '82. Had an under age college friend show up in town and I figured that he wouldn't get carded down there. Magic Slim and the Teardrops played. Kicked ass.

7/2/88 needs to be released for sure. I saw first 6 shows in Summer '88 tour. Remember a friend returning from Oxford (to Oxford) with a sweet audience of 7/2 and, oh man, was I wishing I'd been there.

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In my early GD years I was solidly on Mickey's side. It took me a long time to appreciate Billy for what he was/is; the pillar of strength and foundation of GD music. But my soft spot for Mickey remains.

I did come to the table with a bias, however.. I liked The Beast, The Beam and all the toys he used to bring to the table, Mickey provided the special sauce. The father of one of my high school friends founded the Institute for Ethnomusicology in UCLA in 1960 and later established the ethnomusicology program at the University of Maryland, Baltimore Campus. He was into world music and had the chops and credentials to prove it. Somehow he met Mickey and the two kept in touch. When the GD played at Merriweather Mickey used to come over to their house for dinners the days before or after when schedules permitted. My buddy was a head too, so it was kind of cool hearing him talk about Mickey and his father playing with toys and hanging out in between shows. I'm not sure how involved he was in the goings on or not, but he had some cool stories. My memory is every time the GD came through town he would stop by, which from my involvement were the Merriweather years in the mid 80's.

So I guess I have a small bias. Anyway.. a very interesting guy, a great musician and I always appreciated his passion and deadication to music. We are lucky to have him and so was the GD. Happy Birthday Mickey.

I've been listening to my records mainly in the last week or so - 3/1/69 and Dicks 26 - featuring 4/26 and 4/28/ 69 got a spin over the weekend. Incredible power Mickey added to the band. There were a few other factors involved, but to me they improved beyond recognition once he joined.

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I knew that, I was just teasing ; )
But congrates to you both, happy anniversary!
Sounds like you didn’t forget either, always a plus lol

Yeah Mickey made a huge impact early on.
But I probably dig the Mickless years best?
No offense to him, just 4 or 5 piece has always been my preferred musical line up, though of course exceptions to every rule etc.
But for a long time, I didn’t like the first post hiatus years partially because it felt like they were trying to outdo each other more than gel? Eventually they worked it all out again and perhaps with age mellowed a bit so that in the 80s onward they were more like one big beast again instead of 2 young males trying to have a contest.
Funny, Billy discusses all this in his book…
I think the technology helped too. I know not everyone agrees, but I felt like everything, but especially the drums and bass sounded much better later because of the tech and mics etc.
In the last years, and post JG years, Mick and the drums/space were often the highlight of the show. Totally felt that way sometimes with D&C, though this year everyone was killing it!
Sometimes I even feel that I like Micks solo albums the best too. Definitely an interesting, informative guy who I hope can keep busy and keep going furthur!

Jim: wow, that’s pretty cool story. Can’t imagine being some young Beavis and Butthead like dude and having Mickey coming by to hang with your old man! I love this shit, this is the stuff that makes being a DH so fun.

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to me, Mickey is to drums what Jerry was to music, totally Intune with the cosmos. Love ya Mickey, get that Mickey Hart Band back together from 2012, Happy B day.

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I've become quite partial to the one drummer years myself, 74 being a high water mark to me. Like I said, grew to appreciate Billy over time. I really like what they were able to do from 71 through 74.

In a way, we are privileged to have all the different versions of the Grateful Dead we had. They all had their mystic powers and they created their own groove.

Cap Center: Landover, MD.

Beginning of 2nd set - Happy Birthday tuning, then Phil "Happy Birthday Mick!"

Nice - had a long visit that night with Bozo the Clown - tasty!

So Happy Birthday Mick!

Buddy Guy - have seen 3 times. Twice in late 1990's as my friends were opening for him. And then last year. He put on a great show last year but was way more ferocious in the 1990's. He buggied and funked more. I assume he may still drink like he used to. In the 1990's 2 bottles of Crown heading into and thru show.

BTW, old friends are touring again, writing new material, maybe a phoenix rising! May go see them here locally in October in local music hall. Should sell out...1,250 folks@ $40 a ticket...nice!

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For me greatest sound they got was with the two drummer from late1967 - 1970, and then with just Bill up to the end of 1974. I don't think it worked so well with two drummers after Mickey returned, unfortunately.
Ironically, just as Mickeys arrival helped them to become more adventurous in 1967, so his return in 1976 seemed in part to lead them to becoming more pedestrian.
The only time it made sense to me, having two drummers post 1976, was during the drum solo section late in the second set, which did seem to improve as years went by. That and space was the highlight of 11/1/90 at Wembley - you could feel it in your bones.

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Billy and the Kids are playing at the Santa Barbara Bowl on November 2nd. I'm in.

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Sampson benefited from two drummers.. if they ever performed the whole Terrapin Station Suite, I'm sure that would have rocked with two drummers. They had less of a turn on a dime, jazzy, all for one - one for all feel post haitus.

No one ever mentions this.. but I suspect cocaine really piled on after their hiatus (pun intended) and this had more an effect than people realize. Not that it was a stranger prior to 1976, but I suspect this substance is more a distraction to the kind of focus it takes to get the full value of having two percussionists, whereas lysergic might have been a better mixer for that kind of sound.

It's all history at this point, but we got Scarlet Fires, Help/Slip!/Franklins, Estimated>Eyes and a louder more forceful GD post hiatus. Sometimes you take what you are given for good or ill.

Looks like a damned good lineup in Mexico this winter. Alumni of the GD, ABB, TTB and Goose playing under the billing of Dead Ahead. If I was lighting up hundred dollar bills to pass the time I'd be on that train, especially after the recent Wolf Bros reviews and the high energy of the last D&C tour. I kinda lost interest when the ticket prices went up and the energy and speed declined. Now I feel like I am missing something, which is a good thing.

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42 years ago tonight I was at the Greek Theatre for an absolute knockout show with the Good old Grateful Dead. This was my favorite Dead show at the Greek, and also my favorite year that the Dead played there. Joan Baez brought a birthday cake out for Mickey Hart and the crowd sang him happy birthday. Where is that Complete Greek box set. Killer Morning Dew, Cumberland, and Other One.

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Yes, that song did benefit from having two drummers. I don't know, but I would have thought heroin, and to a lesser extent alcohol, also led to a simplification in style. Not that I'm saying there weren't still great shows, but they seemed to lose the psychedelic dimension from 1976 onwards. It's not easy to say what that dimension is exactly - it wasn't a formula - but you can recognise it when it's there. And when it's not.

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Coke show

Especially 2nd set

Deadbase sez they left the stage for a short bit after Samson and then did the monster rest of the show.

Hmm.

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Daverock You Nailed it From 1976 onward they lost something. They were still GREAT!! But the shows from 1968 to 1974 were the Best (In My Opinion ) I remember Phil saying something like.......When we came back from the year off (1975) we never got the Magic back that we had before. I saw them 40+ times before 1975 and 60+ after They changed as everything does and they were always Great, but to me pre 1975 was Magical like Daverock says the psychedelic dimension

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Two things -

On the archive there is a user/member - "Top Hat Crew". Guy has great recordings.

From the guy I've gotten all of his "Terrapin Flyer" stuff. These guys are pretty damn good,,, seem to be out of Utah. Worth checking out in my book.

PS - Like Jim in MD, I say the 80's hold a lot of gold. I only saw during the 80's. The sound may have changed after 75, but wasn't worst. They seem to turn on a dime in my book. As Jim once pointed out,,, if you stop at 75 you miss a lot of great tunes.

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An excellent show, I remember when that first came out.. I was in heaven. It's got one of the better examples of the faster tempo Eyes of the World. That outro jam from He's Gone is special too, and who doesn't like the 77 Terrapins.

Good points all around. I'm partial to 68 through 74 also, but I have to admit I like a good show or even good moments from any era or configuration. Listening to the Jam out of He's Gone from Englishtown as I write this. A great piece of improvisation.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that they didn't play any great shows after 1975, or that they are not worth listening to after that date. Chuck couldn't have put in any clearer - and that from first hand experience.
I got Dicks Picks 33 on vinyl earlier this year - 10/9 and 10/10/76. They are both great - 10/9 is really good !

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In the nice little Rolling Stone/Special Collectors Edition magazine, the introduction, by Bobby, includes this quote....."For me, the shows we did in the late Eighties were our peak, our best era." Interesting how the musicians have different interpretations of shows/eras than the fans. I like them all, but since I missed the beginning through late 1973, I only have 1973-1995 as my reference point for the live experience. Would have loved to seem live in the late '60's, but soooo thankful for all the archival music.

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Wish they could grab Phil and Friends along with Warren Haynes.

Been playing around with The Dead a touch. Fired up an old computer and rediscovered a file from 2008/09 with a lot of shows in it. Forgot about that. They had some very good shows with Warren Haynes.

And the continuation of the drums thread, they had some awesome drum/space during this 2008/09 period.

Wrote on here years ago about how I felt drums/space was a kind of replacement for Dark Star. As an aside, I think it matches up with "Where's the dog star?" Or, Where is your night time Compass? Many used D/S as a rest room break. In the shows which I saw, I never took a bathroom break at any shows, ever, except one which I plan to write about next year. If I, and we, make it.

It is interesting that Sirius, aka, Alpha Canis Major, or A CMa, is a binary star having Sirius A & B (to keep things easy). I have spent years reading on this type of stuff and believe with many, that our solar system maybe be binary, or bipolar. Is there a planet x out there, some of the math says so. I believe it could be true.

So any way, I think the fellas played around a lot with the next psychedelic jam. Where can that dog star be in our shows. Most of the time, in later years, it was that one hour nugget in almost every show centered around drums/space. Now sometimes that was off and the started the show blazing psychedelia from the get go, for me 1982-09-21, MSG, with Playing>Crazy opener. My point, even when you are way over-dosed, and questioning decisions made, the fellas had a guide star. After all, Sirius A is a fixed star, a Compass. They always lead you out of the psychedelia so that you can go back into the real world, and do your best to function/not get caught.

All of this, points to the true meaning of Grateful Dead, much like the Phoenix rising. Each show day they set-up and take down the System (life/death). They move on down the road and set-up again. Each show, they almost always recreated the Tests, by initiating new partakers to play in the swirling chaos of a show, the chaos of life and death for all of us. Many would come and the experience would overwhelm them, scare the shit out of them. That is, they always maintained the joy and fear of life as we know it. for me, let's say a show with 10,000 has a 5% or 500 new participants, I always believed only 10% of those continued on. Many were just trying to get a bucket list item checked off. Again, the mysteries dark and vast, have never been captured even closely by any other band or other forms of art.

Have a great friend see his one and only GD show on October 8th, 1989. He had a great time, but he was like "look at the dude in a skirt!" Great friend, but never attached or understood. This same friend I saw a Yes show in Nashville April 1984, one of his closest friends went to Hampton GD, that same weekend.

She dont lie, she dont lie, she dont lie...Cocaine. If memory is correct, I think it was on Long Strange Trip, Wiz says he left in 1976 due to the increasing amounts of Cocaine. That it was changing the band and the music. I dont think GD could be GD without psychedelics, cocaine, and heroin. All three stages provide me with differing styles and points of entry.

Have more thoughts on all of this but need to post before computer fouls up and lose it.

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Other than the Grateful Dead and post-GD incarnation bands, Buddy Guy is the artist who I have seen in concert the most. He does what me and my college buddies from the early 1990s called "Roaming Buddy" every concert-- you know, where he walks into the crowd jamming.

The first time I saw him was at the Marcus Amphitheater in Milwaukee as part of a blues fest with a lineup of Dr. John, Buddy and BB King. The place was mostly empty, but he took his guitar up to the top of the seating area. The next time I saw him at the long-defunct R&R Station bar in Madison-- just a killer show. I had a bootleg tape of it (probably still in my basement). From there, I caught him whenever he played in my area (Madison, Milwaukee and then southwest Michigan/South Bend, IN) and saw him annually in the late 90s and early 00s at his Legends club.

Funny story about the shows. Whenever he did Roaming Buddy, he would stop at me and play. Every time. I was at a work conference in Portland in 2002 and Buddy Guy is playing the night after and I met a friend there and went to see him play. He starts his Roaming Buddy bit and again, stops at me-- as usual. Only this time, he does a double take look at me and smiles and shakes his head-- like he recognized me, but thinking, "What is this m-fer doing out west, he is always in Wisconsin and Chicago?" He was so obvious about it, my friend asked me why he looked at me like that. That was my only guess.

I haven't seen him in over a decade though-- so many good memories from when he was younger. Oops, forgot that I took my son to see him in St. Joseph about 7 years ago (son was about 6 at the time and we didn't make it through the entire show, so I don't count that one). Go see the legend if you haven't seen him. I traveled to the Chesapeake Blues Festival in 1999 to see John Lee Hooker for a rare show east of the Mississippi River and I do not regret it.

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42 years ago today you know where I was at. What a killer of a show! Started with a fantastic Shakedown Street into a ripping Greatest Story. HEY DAVE WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET A COMPLETE GREEK BOX SET. The Dead were always cool and they always will be.

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