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    Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
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    Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
    Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
    Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
    Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
    Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
    Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
    Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
    Artwork by Dave Van Patten
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

    “Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

    They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

    Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

    IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

    Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

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  • #411
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    Yes, The Listen to the River Box has not sold out yet, which doesn't surprise me and I think is good for people that didn't buy it right out of the gate.

    The days of selling boxes out in a day might be over (Get Shown the Light), unless they release something like the full run at Winterland October 74 with video.

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    That looks like good advice. I'm not so sure that this box will take as long, or longer, to sell out than the St Louis box though. For the simple reason that I suspect a lot of people on here prefer buying copies of shows that they attended rather than those that they did not. And more people who buy such things saw them in 81-83 than did in 71-73, I should think.

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    My advice to anyone who was desperate enough for this that they caved and paid the $70 shipping scam is to cancel your preorder.
    It won’t sell out anytime soon.If the St. Louis box is still available after a year this will be available for at least as long.
    Tell them in your cancellation that the reason you are doing it is because of the shipping charge.Maybe loss of business will force them to address this.
    Imagine how you’ll feel if they “review” their shipping charges in October and adjust them back to cost.That is a lot of money you have given them.

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    I too am excited for the MSG Box. Actually, the 3-10-81 show was my first which I attended with two of my 4 older brothers and our younger sister... very special!
    The show itself was excellent! Underrated i'd say, in part due to the opening equipment bomb during Half-Step. But after that, the show was EXCEPTIONAL! Note the 24 tracks... you know the boys were there to PLAY! ...and play they did... The recovery from Half-Step I thought was pretty cool and then to launch into Franklins Tower :-) you could feel the Garden begin to rock (literally). The Lazy Lightening>Supplication was ripping I though as was BEW and DEAL to close out 1st set. The Scarlet>Fire was tight! very underrated (IMHO) and then the back end of the 2nd set was hot! A NYC Truckin' is always special but what is not reported here was the tease of (my favorite!) Smokestack Lightening :-) I was only 14, but I looked at my oldest brother without saying a word, jaw on the floor...Could this be happening?!?!?! :-) Unfortunately not, but the tease was something I'll never forget. The Sugar Mag was electric and then the two encores were the perfect balance of Rockin Garden followed by the gentle sendoff of Brokedown Palace... goosebumps! This show is underrated. You will totally dig this show! Mama, Mama many worlds I've come Since I first left home... (to see the Dead!)

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    ...of the listening party from March 9, 1981 has me starting to really anticipate this box. Sounds pretty good on the computer speakers, high hopes for the big boy stereo. When I started listening to the dead in 1983 or so, Dead Set was in regular rotation on my morning ride to school listening, and most of the bootlegs that I subsequently acquired in the next couple years were from the early '80s, so this will be a great addition to the current collection. Similar to Spacebro, the first dead related show that I saw was JBG at Orange County Community College in Middletown, NY, summer of 1984, so my dead show attendance was mostly mid and late '80s, but I dig the way that early '80s stuff sounds.

    Picked up a couple of the Neil Young archival releases lately, the 1971 solo acoustic ones, but that Neil Young and Crazy Horse live at Fillmore East is on my list of things to pick up, checked out a couple of tracks on utoob recently and dug the extended Down by the River. Good stuff.

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    Was carpooling with a buddy who who had this on his streaming service. A great set.

    This MSG box has me pretty excited. My first show was 7-1-84 and the years preceding were the Deeds general sound coming into the live experience. The momentum from there real built up for them musically from that point until about the time Bruce's semi-regular tenure ended in 92.

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    Thanks for the heads up Colin, it's one of my favourite Neil albums. It's a shame that it's just the original lp and not a big box, they must have recorded a lot of that tour. I'd buy a 17cd box of the Stray Gators in a heartbeat.

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    That festival, at Kralingen in Rotterdam, just down the road from where I now live, was at the same time as the Bath Festival of Blues and Progressive Music 1970 in Shepton Mallet and many acts appeared at both. I had a great time at Bath and still consider that the line-up was the best of any festival. I was unaware of the Stamping Ground Netflix documentary. I shall look out for that. I do have a 3LP set of Kralingen which has a good selection of the bands that were present.

    52 years ago last month! Wow! Where does the time go?

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    Dennis - Gotcha! I knew you got the Record Store release, now I get it is a “keeper”. Take heart, I think - I think - the new Miles Bootleg Volume 7 - due this September - includes this release on Disc 3, or at least is recorded at the same show.
    Miles is among a select group of artists with a long lineage and a wealth of recordings, like Dylan, the Stones, and our beloved Dead, whose vault of unreleased material, both live and studio, would be absolutely Holy Grail stuff to get at.
    Choose wisely, indeed…

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    Despite having a mountain of new music CDs to listen to I found myself looking at Netflix(UK) randomly and I noticed a documentary ‘Stamping Ground’ this covers a festival in Holland in 1970. It has a eclectic choice of groups. With 20 minutes to still watch my, admittedly faulty, memory has from the US Santana, Canned Heat, Country Joe, It’s A Beautiful Day, The Flock, Dr John, The Byrds and Jefferson Airplane and from the UK Al Stewart, Family, Pink Floyd, Tyrannosaurus Rex and Soft Machine. It’s helped to pass an hour and a half. As the world gets ever more ridiculous music helps to keep me on a even keel.

    EDIT Having just seen the credits I realise I had forgotten the UK group Quintessence.

    No relation to the above but I notice that Neil Young is finally releasing ‘Time Fades Way’ as a stand alone CD on August 12th. I have the LP but no way to play it.

    EDIT 2 Looking at the end credits I notice the guitarist and singer with T. rex was identified as Mark Polin!

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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
Artwork by Dave Van Patten
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

“Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

Hey August I've been spinning 9/20/82. The very beginning of Shakedown sounds like they're all tuning up and getting the mix, but then it settles in very nicely and the Shakedown has all players well balanced. Hot Shakedown>Mingle one-two. I just listened to the Scarlet>Fire last night and it is excellent also. I'm liking this box more and more.

Anyone still on the fence on this I would jump on this. If you like early 80's Dead, this will not disappoint. I love it. Such great variety and the sound quality to my ears is 5 dancing bears! Just fantastic. Revisited 3/9/81 and this show smokes. The first set Deep Elem Blues, Birdsong! So good. Second set China Rider and the Estimatesd UJB is what this band is all about. So glad they put this one out.
Only complaint, they didn't include the 79 MSG shows.

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Submitted by Dennis on Wed, 09/06/2023 - 08:12

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Just ordered the vinyl copy of 3/9/81 from Experience Vinyl (125 bucks).

I'm guessing the Dead never released this on vinyl,,,, I don't have a copy in stock.!?

I lost a chunk of emails,,,, this order (in cd's) would have been in that chunk. I would have thought if it was available on vinyl I would have bought when I ordered the cd's.

But I can find NOTHING to show this has ever been released on vinyl.

Am I nuts or did I just spend more of my wife's hard earned money!

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Submitted by jonathan918@GD on Wed, 09/20/2023 - 07:05

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Spinning 9/20/82 today and it's really hitting the spot! So much magic in this MSG box. It's been in reagular rotation since the day I recieved it. I really like how they switch things up with the multi night, muti year run from a particular venue.

Also, if you've been hesitant about getting this because of reading post about sound quality, era, or performance quality, don't listen!!! If you like early 80's Dead, wait no more!

I get not liking an era but it seems a lot of posters (not all) come out in immediate protest of anything post 78.

Anyway, if you like this era, I promise this box won't disappoint! and no, I don't know DL or work for Rhino.

Rock on, gang!

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Submitted by FiveBranch on Sat, 09/23/2023 - 16:03

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In the past few weeks I've given the '82 and '83 shows a relisten and with each I had the same thought, "Oh geez, I forgot how much fun this one is! I've got to get on dead net and spread the word......"

But I'm a bit biased with towards post 70s GD. The ritualistic approach they kept with from '79 onward simply works and one I'll never tire of. Although, does fall into the whole, 'for those that understand no explanation is needed; for those that don't, none is possible'. Seems the majority of the people that really dig 80s and 90s Grateful Dead are those that saw them in that period. Makes sense.

Of the four shows, I'd say 10/12/83 stood out the most for me this time around. Because of the Help>Slip>Franklins. Has to be one of the better post '77 versions out there. Certainly one of the longest Slipknots from the 80s and 90s. Which is the part that counts most ; -)

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