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    Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.


    By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.


    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    I'm with Oro on the snow, no bueno.. it's a terrible drug that ruined many a life of the people I grew up with. It seemed my high school friends that didn't go to college all got 'high paying' jobs (for our age) in contruction, landscaping, cable companies, UPS, whatever.. and all started doing blow... and all experienced serious problems. Going to school, we couldn't afford it that much. A friend in 87 or so turned me on to the idea that the stuff was no good.. stay away.. Danger Will Robinson. And pretty quickly I heeded his advice.

    As to Chucks comments.. well said. I saw a few shows where I walked away wondering what could have been or what happened. One was that last show at RFK in 86. Well.. they got much better after that, then they got worse but still had their moments.

    In the end we got what we got.. if I have one regret it's that I wish I would have gone to a few more shows. In hindsight, I probably went to as many as I could afford. A very positive experience on my life, I am grateful for that.. and grateful that I got to meet many of you here, and for those I have not met yet.. I at least get to read about your excellent stories, views on life and takes on music and all good things.

    Oh, I really liked that interview with Whiz on recording Europe 72 and the most excellent 5/26/72, which they played on SiriusXM last night at 9. Serendipitous it comes up on these threads today. I will listen to it in its entirety very soon...

    Be well people.. rock on. or as Mr. Burns said after his first dead show:
    Excellent!

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    My memory fails as to his direct relationship. He was a technical type within the Organization. Now where placed I am not sure. Under Bear directly, maybe under Betty. In the documentary, he talks about the very last show of E72 and maybe some other things. He was the last tech in the recording truck, that is, recording switching tapes etc. This last show was pulling him in, blowing his mind. When Morning Dew came, he left and locked up the recording truck and went to go watch. He gives a deeply passionate discussion of that Morning Dew, that it was so incredibly emotive. That Jerry was crying, he began crying and was absolutely blown away with that version. He never went back to the truck and felt fortunate the remaining tape was able to record the whole show. That is my understanding, and from memory 4-5 years old, and my memory is not that great. May have to go back and watch Long Strange Trip, think it is still on Amazon. Might need to re-listen to that show as I became overwhelmed by the last years offerings and didn't make it through the whole E72 box this year. But can renew the listen as I am still digesting HCS and #47, and a lot of other stuff also. I also went thru the From the Vault 1-2.

    Here is a direct write up over at rick turner. Anyone want reference website, DM me or look up Grateful Dead's Wiz.

    May 12, 2020
    Dennis “Wiz” Leonard’s Notes on Europe ’72

    Here are my old friend, Dennis “Wiz” Leonard’s tech notes on the recording of the Grateful Dead’s great live album, “Europe ’72”. Most of my blog is my own writing, but I asked Wiz if I could share this, and he graciously said, “yes”. This is the clearest explanation of how Alembic did live recordings that I’ve ever seen. Wiz now works at Skywalker Sound…he went way big league!

    Dennis Wiz Leonard Europe ’72 Technical Liner Notes By Dennis Leonard
    “Less is more!” This was the motto of Alembic and many of the sound artists in the S.F. Bay Area’s growing community of folks trying to advance the state of the art in both “live” and “recorded” sound for rock ’n’ roll. One can hardly mention this philosophy to recording without touching on the Alembic PA system and its unique qualities.
    The new paradigm for live sound: the Alembic PA. In 1964 The Beatles played at Shea Stadium using a circular array of Vox Grenadier Column speakers, a box quite similar to the Shure Vocal Master Column. This approach to sound for a stadium was doomed even if all the girls did not scream. Fast-forward to ’67-70 and things were not much better.
    The Alembic PA was the first really hi-fi approach to a live system. It had direct radiator low-frequency elements rather than horn-loaded boxes, which were the standard. It was an electronically crossed-over three-way system using McIntosh MC-75, MC-275, and MC-3500 vacuum-tube amplifiers and Ampex MX-10 vacuum-tube mixers as the front-of- house console. It eventually evolved into the famous Wall of Sound. This was a philosophic approach, brainchild of The Bear, put together by some of the most talented engineers in the Bay Area, and the same philosophy was applied to the task of recording bands.
    Alembic Recording did not have a truck to pull up to a venue. We had gear, and we often built a studio at the venue in a room somewhere backstage. Sometimes we would haul the gear to the gig in a rental truck, then unpack and build the studio for the gig in the truck, take it apart when we were done, and take it back home.
    Recording Europe ’72 was a monumental task, and we came up with a great solution to building a truck which we could fly airfreight to and from Europe. A video-production company was letting go of a pair of cargo containers built for them to ship a portable video-production remote unit by airfreight. This was perfect—when set back-to-back, these two rode in the top of a 747 airfreighter. Each container was built around a reinforced floor, the sides and top latched on and off.
    We moved all of the components of our Ampex MM1000 16-track into a video chassis that put all 16 sets of AG-440 electronics down below the transport which was then on a 45 degree angle. This was not only more robust, but it was also going to allow us to run 14-inch reels. This took place in an all-night marathon. When we started, Ron Wickersham was not sure all of the original cabling would work. We were lucky it did! At around 5 am, the new machine was rolling; no cables needed to be cut or spliced from the original wiring loom!

    Another obstacle was that the capstan speed in an MM1000 was derived from line frequency. Ours was a 60-Hz machine and we were going to 50-Hz land. Ron came up with a solution which would also solve another problem down the road: He built a precision 60-Hz crystal oscillator; we drove a McIntosh 275 vacuum-tube amplifier and picked off a tap on the output transformer, which would give us 120 volts with enough current to run the capstan motor at our precise 60 Hz/15ips, also now immune to line-frequency fluctuation. The other problem arose when we tried to get Ampex to give us their 207 tape on 14-inch reels. Ampex 207 had a thinner backing; instead of the traditional 30 minutes one got out of a 10.5-inch roll, 207 would give us 45 minutes, so a 14-inch reel was going to run 90 minutes—very desirable when recording a band with long sets, like the Dead. Ampex would not build the reels; we had to do those ourselves. Remember, we were running the recorder’s capstan on an oscillator, so for building the reels we hooked up a variable-frequency oscillator. We would ramp the machine up to 60ips to pack the tape. Each of the 14-inch reels had a splice in it. Ron and Sue Wickersham and I spent a few nights at Alembic having a 14-inch- reel-building party.
    The recording rig was quite simple: “less is more.” We recorded the Dead quite often, so a lot of what we did for Europe ’72 had been tested and proven.
    We built the rig at Alembic. One of the newly procured containers had the 16-track and an outboard equipment rack, the other . . . a custom built cabinet which was our tape library, and this cabinet also had our monitor console, Revox two-track, cassette machine, and Orban reverb units mounted on top of it. A carpenter met us at Heathrow airfreight in London. When the gear arrived, we took the sides and tops off of the two containers (which were left there in storage for the tour) and had them forklifted into our rental truck for the tour. The container floors were about ten inches high, so after the two were in the truck, the carpenter secured them and built us a filler floor so that the recording truck would not have a split- level floor.
    We wired the truck up and hung drapes and the 4310 JBL monitors, as well as many other things at the first show venue, Wembley Arena.
    The flow of the rig, starting inside the venue, consisted of the following:
    Two nine-pair snakes plugged into a custom Alembic split. AC from the stage ran to the truck with the two nine-pairs. Once inside the truck, the AC power was conditioned in an automatic, motor-driven variac made by General Radio. This was to, hopefully, prevent severe voltage fluctuation. The split plugged into the rack, which held a patch bay and minimal gear. We had a couple of Ampex MX-10 tube mixers and some limiters. The limiters, by the way, were used only on vocals for our monitor mix; we did not want to do anything to the vocals on the 16-track record master.

    One of the big “less is more” philosophic bits of Alembic magic was the use of transformers in the input section of the MM1000. Ampex offered modules which plugged into an octal socket on the back of each 440 record amplifier. We used these sockets for the transformers, which would allow us to take microphone level right into the tape recorder, totally passive—no electronic noise added and no record console electronics to fail.
    The MM1000 fed a very small, 16-track Alembic monitoring console built by Ron. Janet Furman was our technical engineer and not only fixed things, but also set up the 16-track to the custom equalization we were using with the thinner-backed Ampex 207 tape. We could monitor, solo, and build a two-track mix on this. We recorded to a Revox B77 and a Sony cassette machine, and we also had some pretty simple spring reverbs for our two-track mixes.
    Shows seemed to generally fit on two 14-inch reels and a ten-inch reel or two. Tape changes were quite interesting: We did not have a lot of room and had practiced this quite a bit, and it took three of us to do this at high speed. In an effort to not run out of tape during a performance, we had an indicator-light system of communication. Under Jerry’s monitor wedge there were three small lamps mounted on a piece of wood. The lights could be lit from the truck. A green, yellow, and red light: Green = we are rolling and in record; yellow = if you can wind it down and stop, we need to change tape; red (if, in fact, the band did stop for us) = changing tape, not in record.
    This, of course, did not fit in with the way the Grateful Dead worked. There were not going to be any rules. Early in the tour, I tried a “yellow,” asking for a possible wind-down of the jam so that we could change tape. Even though this had been an idea we had discussed Stateside, Jerry was having no part of it! As I switched on the yellow light, I looked at Garcia on our 13-inch B&W TV monitor. He looked up at the camera, knowing I was watching, and simply smiled and nodded no in a very friendly way. Don’t fuck with the music!
    We did some tape changes while the band was playing. We really did not want to interfere with the flow of the music.
    I was in the truck for the tour, parked in front of the Ampex 16-track. Since we had no record console in the path to tape, the 16-track itself was actually the only place to make any level adjustments, so with our custom MM1000, all 16 of the AG440 record amplifiers were clustered together in two stacks of eight, easy to keep an eye on. Betty Cantor did our live two-track mix in the truck; she was around eight feet away. The band really had no set lists in those days, so as the show went down, I would write one on each of the tape boxes. Bob Matthews was at front of house. We would chat on our intercom after songs, and he, Betty, and I would decide how many stars to give a song: Three stars meant it was a really good performance! The star system was used when we got back home in order to focus on candidates for the Europe ’72 album.
    Twenty-two shows in two months (57 days) is a vacation tour. The current tour-booking standard is to average 4.5 shows a week, and the Grateful Dead Europe ’72 tour was booked at around 2.5 shows per week. It does not get much better! Although it was an amazing time, with many days off, we took recording this tour very seriously and there was no relaxation on a show day at all.
    It was a high time for everyone. The music was just amazing and for me not seeing any of it except on a small B&W TV was OK. I did, however, get inside on the last night. Due to circumstance, I was alone in the truck. We had, only minutes before, put a fresh 14-inch reel up and had 1.5 hours before the next tape change. A microphone onstage needed attention and I had to go inside. I did this with a bit of trepidation; I really did not want to simply leave the truck, but no one else was available and the mic needed to be fixed. The band was in a spacey jam and was very unlikely to produce levels which would be a problem on tape.
    I locked the truck, went inside, and quickly fixed the bad mic, which was just a bit loose on its stand. As I went for the stairs to leave, the band dropped into “Morning Dew,” which has always been a favorite tune of mine. I decided to stay. Dynamically, the levels in the truck—which was now “running itself”—were going to be fine, and I had to stay! I parked myself behind Jerry’s rig for the song, a time I will absolutely never forget.
    Fast-forward to Alembic Studios, 60 Brady Street, San Francisco. The band is choosing the final songs for the album. I am walking down the hall towards the control room. Jerry bursts out, very animated as he catches me, “Hey, Wiz. Guess what? ‘Morning Dew’ from the Lyceum is for sure going on the album.” (Big smile from Jerry.) He says, very emphatically, “And no one was in the truck!” (Bigger smile.) The Grateful Dead’s music was built on taking chances, embracing the unknown, letting serendipity have its hand. So the fact that, while no one was in the truck, a true pearl was recorded was not unusual at all! It was just an affirmation that we were letting the muse guide us in an invisible and mysterious way.
    The tour was a truly magical time. It changed my life forever! If I were to be marooned on an island with only one piece of music I could ever listen to, “Morning Dew” from Europe ’72 would be it. Jerry’s solo says it all!

    Oh… One more anecdote, I got back to SF after a quick trip to Vermont to get my dog Zach… Got back to Alembic in time to meet the gear, we were now at 60 Brady street… Big M (Bob Matthews) grabs me and says, “Hey remember we had to fast wind some tapes off, so I want you to play the tour, the whole tour, so all the reels are playback packed at “Tails out” the control room is yours” So I said, “hey I’ll just live here till it’s done, ok?” Big smile from Big M… What a drag, I had to play the whole tour, update thoughts (Star System) on quality and I put another pair of 4310’s in the back of the control room and played the room miss through them… (Surround sound) sat and did a live mix for I am not sure how long, I would play and sleep, sleep and play… But it was pretty constant… Stop every show to clean the heads….. Then I moved up to Fairfax and really slept..
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  • Gary Farseer
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    I have been dabbling in Goose's pool this year. Definitely very enjoyable stuff!

  • Gary Farseer
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    In the mid 80's we a had massive gak parties. Some lasting several days and going thru massive amounts of cocaine. My last dalliance was summer 1986, sort of lines up with other events of 1986. I was born with a heart condition, thought I should stop as the heart palpitations might lead to an arrhythmia. Just before that, Crack started to come out. Remember being in a friend's friends house that had turned into a Crack lab. Man were they a factory. Started to change my views about Coke. Trying to put puzzle together on 86. Only time I smoked crack was in Manhattan, August 86. My brother and I had just left the Blue Note watching Dizzy Gillespie. We were already high on white lightning (name for blotter - and yes there is that deeper connection to Bear and The Human Be-In). We were walking the streets around 2am and we come across a cat hanging out on the front of a brownstone. He was smoking and we started talking. We ended up buying bag of pot from him. He also pulled out another joint and fired it up and then passed to us. After smoking it he told us it was laced with crack. There was only one other time that I was that high and that is the show I wrote yesterday saying I would write about it next year on anniversary of show. We were so incredibly high, that at 3am on a packed subway, New Yorkers were freaking out watching us. It was a ball. I have posted about that night a couple of times here with a lot more detail. So somewhere summer/fall 86 was my last ride. Not sure of timing, remember the party but not the time. Know it was shorty after NYC August 86, but then when was the crack house event...timing of Jerry getting sick. It is all a big blur now. But dang, that feeling of doing two quarter gram lines up each nostril was absolutely amazing. That is, a buddy of mine took a gram divided into four lines and each took two.

    Hmmm, I do remember an ear nose and throat doctor soaking my throat with cocaine before she sent a camera up my nose and down my throat. That was 2004, so I guess that counts too.

    Everything has its purpose but all things in moderation. Guess that is why I never crossed the line and became an addict to anything.

  • Sixtus_
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    ...headed to Goose the next two nights at the seaside pavilion in Boston; looks iffy with thunder expected for most of this afternoon/evening, but tomorrow looks good. Will be the start of their Fall tour here before they head to Europe in November for the first time. I've been on this ride for the past 18 months or so, and I have to admit it's been amazing so far with no limits in sight. Each show is literally the best show you've seen, until the next one. Where have we heard that one before?? They are on a true roll. For any who may be skeptical, this is a full-hearted prompt to go and dip that toe into the waters to see what its all about. A lot of stuff on The Tube with a U, and Bandcamp has all of their shows and albums to listen for free (it's all also on Nugs).

    Also saw that Phish announced their first festival in many years, holding a spot for next summer already.
    In Delaware of all places!
    Hey Garth, we're in Delaware....

    Be Well People!
    Sixtus

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    check DM.

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    No Bueno!

    It was around, luckily we were too poor for that. (It was expensive then)
    Occasionally, maybe for special occasions, or weddings or NYE etc, but fortunately only rarely.
    If you’ve never, don’t bother.

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    My understanding is the Fillmore 71 tapes were chopped up to use for Skull Fuck and other things.
    Supposedly that’s why they did Ladies and Gentlemen: to use the best of what was available…

  • daverock
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    When your day is done..

    Cocaine never appeared in my orbit when I was young, so I never took it either. I'm sure if it had appeared during my teens I would have had a dabble - I believed in living adventurously. I suppose I could have had a go later in life, but I never felt it was worth it, all things considered. I am not sure what the characteristics of a coke inspired jam would be.

    I would watch a biopic of Jerry if it was on the telly. But I would have very, very low expectations.

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    Recently listening to Three from the vault, St Louis 71, and Europe 72, I am just asking about the multitracks recordings if there is anything about Fillmore East 71 (a full show 27 or 29) or the final run at winterland in 74 (full show) - St louis is a good show but the sound is not as shining as the others. I return to the capitol 71 shows, they are so good, great shows as a quintet.

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Who's ready to boogie with a little Brent-era Grateful Dead from the Gateway to the West? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 47 features the complete unreleased show from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 12/9/79 and you're going to need stamina because this one is high energy from start to finish.


By the time December 1979 rolled around, Brent Mydland had fully cemented his place in the Grateful Dead canon with his twinkling keys, harmonic tenor, and songwriting skills. No more is that evident than at this show boasting 25 songs including soon-to-be classics from GO TO HEAVEN like "Alabama Getaway," "Don't Ease Me In," "Lost Sailor," and the Brent-penned "Easy To Love You." It's also packed with whirling takes on fan-favorites like "Brown-Eyed Women," "Shakedown Street," and "Terrapin Station." And you've never heard a 2nd set quite like this with eight songs before "Drums" including an improvised "Jam" launching from the end of "Saint Of Circumstance." It doesn't stop there though, with a blazing finale of "Bertha>Good Lovin'" and perhaps one of the best versions of "Don't Ease Me In" the band ever did play. We've rounded out Disc Three with an extra nugget from '79.


Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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I would like to thank those who reached out to me privately after my last post of why I was so scarce in these parts...thanks to you all who reached out...mucho appreciation for that...and Oro thank you for the kind words re Mr Jinks and his passing...I am sure he is causing trouble wherever he and Violet are...saw a cool cartoon recently...a dog and cat are sitting in front of God's throne awaiting judgement...God asks the dog "Were you a good Dog?" the dog answers "Yes...I loved my master, enjoyed our walks and brought him his slippers every morning"...God tells him 'Yes...you were a very good dog...then he asks the cat "Were you a good cat?" and the cat answers "You're sitting in my chair"...Hey Hendrix freak who ya doing???

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I've enjoyed Dave's 47 quite a bit. Lots of little extra musical lines and jam pieces along the way. A really good show that I had not heard before.

The 48 announcement is the first disappointing one for me with Dave's Picks for a while. I'm not excited about Fall 71. There are so many official releases from that tour at this point. I'd much rather see something different - how about 91 instead of 71? Don't get me wrong I like the 70s and the great sounding recordings. Just feel like this particular tour has been done. I like the Chicago and Albuquerque releases but I couldn't get into the Felt forum shows. In my opinion a lot of the newer songs in late 71 are just much better developed in 72 and beyond. Anyhow, not what personally was looking for but hey.... so be it.

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Man I love Deadbase. I spend several hours a week in it. I had planned to right about them today, after writing about the Space set openers. That comes from Deadbase. They were short lived but weird. Guys at Deadbase have put so much research into their efforts. Thanks Guys!!! Next step is to get data into a searchable database. That would be something. With all of that research, that is probably only 25% of the overall knowledge as much has to be discovered in their Raiders of the Lost Ark warehouse.

Great story!

G

Well, that explains why I don't remember being at the Capital Centre in 1988. I was in Washington State. Caught the Tacoma Dome show, Santana opened, then spent the next 3 weeks tooling around in the mountains and on the coast. A great time to be in rainy state, it barely rained at all...

… have a Grateful Dead Backstage Pass 10-19-85 Tacoma Dome Kelley Mouse artwork 1985. Looks like a A card from a deck, Stanley made it look like a King Of Roses Instead of putting a King of Hearts! I could never figure out how to post
photos here.
10/20/85 they didn’t allow a tapers section. It’s a diamond in the rough.I believe

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GD was to play there in 85. I was attending college in Tacoma at the time.

They cancelled.

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For Gary, couple more bits... was at a local nursery, the landscaping kind, saw a guy walk by with Deadbase X under his arm, various book markers/notes sticking out. Seemed a little odd, until a few minutes later I walked over to speak with him, since he appeared to be hanging out. As I did, overheard him and an employee mention Phish, no big surprise either. We spoke pretty widely for twenty minutes or so, wanted to sound out his interests in music now, as I had heard that once Deadbase 50 was out, he his two partners said we are done. He plays guitar for fun, had a t-shirt on with various Fenders. I participate in a local "network" that shares announcements of live music events of all kinds, esp the small off the radar house concerts etc and sought to see where he went for that, as he still lives where he has for decades, less than an hour south of here, so close enough. Could reach out to him through close mutual friend and ask about any efforts on searchable data bases, though I think between all thats on the web now, its out there albeit in pieces.

We're at 80% in Plano.

My son and my buddy went to San Antonio,,, gonna be 100%.

My brother in Midland, TX, will be at 100%.

I would have been in San Anton, but sick dog.

Come April next year, we'll see 100% in Plano.

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Surely this is the End of the World. Tzitzimimeh swallowed the Sun (most of it, anyway) and soon we are plunged into Eternal Dark. I pray to Saint Jerome of Garcia to save us.

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Some kind folks outside had a pinhole telescope thingie

it was nice to behold the eclipse that way

Also watched it on NASA website

Awesome

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I have rethought Davz 38
9/8/73

Really good stuff y'all

Edit
A song only a Deadhead could love?

Let me sing your blues away

Fun little tune

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"He could kick ass and take names with the Hammond B3 Organ!" - David Gans.
"He had everything to live for, why did he have to go now? - Jerilyn Brandelius
"He's Gone: A Tribute to Brent Mydland" now streaming on
dreamswedreamed dot com.
I'm very proud to release this last episode of DTV, a half hour tribute to Brent. This was the 18th episode, and took about two months to produce, write and edit. It includes interviews with many deadheads (it was Dead Head TV, after all). We also interviewed Dave Margen who played with Brent in Go Ahead, as well as authors Blair Jackson, David Gans, and Jerilyn Brandelius. We were fortunate to sit down with lyricist John Barlow, who shared his experience co-writing Brent's last songs.

Wow!!!

I wanted to thank, Dave on the last release. When I opened it and pulled out the insert, it was a picture of Brent. Thought that was Nice. There is a longer story to this, but I have hit uptown.

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....love me some Brent. We go way back, you know.
The girl at the seven minute two mark though. : . : .older Dead isn't as bright? Love it.
Edit.
Forgot about that Little Light video. '80's cheese.
Love it.

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Happy Sunday, rockers!!!

In preparation for the new release, I have been listening closely to the November 1971 shows. The high quality of both Harding shows goes without saying, and the 7th is indeed classic. Even the chaotic Atlanta show has its moments, and continued thanks to John McCook, for sharing memories of that evening. The very solid and perpetually underappreciated San Antonio and TCU shows lead us nicely to the exceptionally strong, semi-classic, personally cherished Austin and Albuquerque shows. Pauley continues in that vein, and I'm expecting a substantial sonic upgrade for all of us. Let's all listen with an open mind and ear...............

Many of the October and November 1971 shows are actually very strong and foretold the future without Pigpen. Always worth a listen..................

Man approaches the unattainable truth through a succession of errors.........

Rock on!

Doc
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On the archive found a group called Guilty Pleasures.

Only 3 shows out there, but nicely recorded and nice song picks

Seems like Dave Nelson and David Gans are involved.

Worth the shot.

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One thing that occurred to me, listening to the two opening shows in the "River" box - 12/9 and 12/10/71 was that they seemed much more rocking in them, than in shows from Fall 1972 and all 1973. Interesting how this lineup evolved in the three years they were operating. In Fall 1971 they sound, to me, like a rock n' roll band, and this forms the bedrock for all they played.By Fall 1974 they sounded more like a jazz band - who sometimes played rock and roll - but did so in the way a jazz band would do it, rather than a rock band.

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I also share your love of 1971 and am looking forward to the next release too I hold out hope will they finally release Stanford 1973 After many years of archival releases I am surprised Does anyone know why not So many
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Noah's Great Rainbow>>>>>check your PMs.

Wisdom alone is the science of other sciences............

Rock on!!

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Memories of watching 3s company way back

Inane, but I was a kid, so i watched.

Mortality, take a seat. I ain't ready for you yet.

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....the running joke was characters mishearing conversations. It worked.
Oh. And Mr. Roper breaking the 4th wall. RIP Suzanne.
I miss the '80's.

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In no particular order : Greatest Story Ever Told, Estimated Prophet. , The Music Never Stopped, Cassady,, Born Crosseyed, The Other One, Truckiin,

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Thanks for the loss of a hundred bucks, Dennis. Guess it evens out since I got 6/10/73 at a good price. Wonder why Real Gone isn't releasing this through their site, checked my emails and nothing from them about this. They had decent prices on the two Vaults I'm lacking, but not needing.

Still nonplussed about 48, but in the next week or so, we should be hearing about number 49, and then a few more weeks until we hear about numero 50!

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Alvarhanso - It goes on sale at RealGone 10/19 at 10 am PST. There is a "soldout" placeholder listing with info on upcoming sales time. $49.99 list right now in placeholder.

Saw the Real Gone email an hour ago and emailed Experience to try and cancel on the grounds that a 50 buck markup was ridiculous. We'll see if they do the right thing. Just wanted some peace of mind after having to scramble on DiP 1 a few months ago. I can understand secondary market markup, but not when it hasn't even had a chance to go on sale. We'll also see if this is a moot point come Thursday, if I can get a Real Gone purchase completed at the much more reasonable price. (Love the Jerry Garcia vinyl pricing!)

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Wonder if ole Dave will do seaside since the cat was let out of the bag early?

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You MISS the '80s???

Cuz you (and me) were 40 years younger then?

You'll recall the loosely related Dylan line, I'm sure.

I miss Vguy -- hey man, come out to the Rocks next summer for TTB and we'll do more than burn one!

HF

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Chasing a woman in Pasadena. She's a rock movin' woman. Anyhoo...

I scrolled around and saw that Senor Nappyrags asked after me. So kind. LOVED that joke: "the cat answers "You're sitting in my chair." I got another: Dogs have owners. Cats have staff.

Pretty dang good here Nappy. Beat a few serious health issues, now it's just down to, er, mental health. So I hit the Green River for a few days of paddling and popping shrooms. Ah, good for the soul!

Now prepping for a few days of backpacking in remote NW Colo, working on a new book, a new CD, physical fitness, romance, polishing agates I found on the Oregon coast. Life is good right now and I look for ways to share my fortune with those who have less.

I may not always be kind, but I'm tryin',, yours truly, HF

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I got that notice also. Bastards!

I wondered about cancelling also, but worried I wouldn't get one on Thursday.

Oh agony!

But I did order shelving today for the "music" room. Great sale on Elfa at the container store, got 3,000 worth of shelves for 2,000,,,,,, a 35% sale! Largest sale in their history.

So next week sometime the music comes out of boxes!!

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Yet, at the time, I couldn’t see it.
Kept getting a message that my reCRAPTCHA answer was incorrect.

Sounds like others were having similar problems.

Twice the price for a DaP2 vinyl? Highway robbery.

PF- I was there at Folsom Field on Friday night for that debacle (long time season ticket holder).

Let's just say I had a hell of a lot more fun there this summer at the 3 Dead and Co shows.

Well, at least until Dave Matthews showed up on stage. Yeah, I said it.

Speaking of Stanford, to echo another recent poster, that Maples 73 show sure would sound great as a DaP.

Looking forward to checking out this next release, but wonder how long it will stay up in the rotation...

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So you got to be there.

My sympathies.

I can't imagine. Well, yes I can.

Must have been a very somber exit.

I wouldn't mind one of those, I have to say. One of the all time great releases in my book, and contrary to how these releases are normally considered, weirdly enhanced through not being the whole show.

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Daverock, I'm with you on this one - despite DP2 being 1/3 of the full show, what was initially offered is indeed the true meat of this show. Back then when it was originally released, we didn't know any better anyway since it was only the 2nd release of the series and that DP1 was also hacked up to fit onto 2 discs. In retrospect I can see some potential criticism but at the end of the day the fact that they put that Dark Star and NFA medley in our hands was enough to fill my cup.

Cup remains full on this still today- and I was inspired to go take a listen and am in the midst of that DS right now and it's as inspiring as ever.

Be Well People!
Sixtus

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I had a very magical experience with that disc years ago at Discovery Park in Seattle. I listened on a CD Walkman.

One of the top 10 GD experiences for me.

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That Dark Star is an all-timer. Is cosmic over used here? If not, it's a cool, especially cosmic Dark Star which reminds me, I can't seem to find my Cosmic Mushroom Foraging Tool. Has anyone seen it? Bet it happens to you folks all the time too.

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Holey $hit, just went back in time on a random spin'O the wheel and got 're-acquainted' with The Fillmore from 6/6/70 and holy cow that jam out of Alligator.
This is the stuff.

The whole show just smokes Back To The Future Tire Tracks all over it.

Sixtus

P.S. Jimmy in a parallel universe my Forager is hanging right next to my Workingman's Hatchet

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CD’s were around $20 each in the 1990’s, so the early DP’s had to be kept short so people were willing to spend the cash.
Back in those days I spun DP2 way more than DP1 or DP3 (which are both awesome).

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