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    You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

    "Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • billy the kiddd
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    April 1969 box

    Avalon Ballroom & Ark, I second that.

  • Larryl49
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    Dave's 41 was my 1st. show,…

    Dave's 41 was my 1st. show, stoked! Liner notes are for real Dead on.

  • drpryan
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    More special releases

    How about an april '69 box. There at least 14 shows to choose from and ... The Ark!

  • daverock
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    Less is more

    It's all down to personal choice, of course, but I have never been keen on fillers. I agree with HF - I didn't like them in the taping days and I don't like them now. I really don't feel the need to have every second of every cd/record filled with music. Adding music from another show seems to be done with the idea that the more quantity there is, the more value for money there is. But it's not, in my view-it's quality that counts.

    Some of the best books ever written have been quite small-I have a copy of "The Outsider" here by Albert Camus. 120 pages long - and that's it. One of the best novels of the 20th C. They haven't added another 100 pages from one of his other books at the end to pad it out.

    Same with records - the 4th side of "Blonde On Blonde" - the one with "Sad Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands" on, is just a shade over 11 minutes long. What a travesty it would have been if they had added some more tracks on at the end to bring it up to 20 minutes. Irrespective of how good those tracks may have been in themselves.

    Having said that - the vinyl Dicks Picks 36 has no less than 6 L.P.s worth of 9/21/72 on it. And then there is a 7th L.P. with some of 9/3/72 on it. I think that's alright! Maybe because it is a seperate disc, and not tagged on at the end of one with music from the main show.

    Talk of U.S. Blues - I like the 1974 versions - and generally speaking I like up tempo songs, however slight they might appear.
    And 1968 - bring it on! It is the 54th anniversary after all.

  • carlo13
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    Dap 41

    I have to go to Southboro to pick up my Dap 41. I like u.s. blues also. I like filler too. I figure it as a bonus since it came from a show that may not be released.

  • bluecrow
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    I love it! I love it! I love it!

    yep right there with that sentiment! fun reading that show review. Thanks Dave, Jeffrey, Matt Adams, and all the folks who make this happen. And once again, thank you Betty for another super sweet recording!!

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    #2759, filler, U.S. Blues

    Dave's 41 reached these parts yesterday. Sounds awesome, another excellent release, glad to start this new season of Dave's.

    Many years ago I tacked on some unusual filler on one of the tapes I sent off to a hometown Deadhead friend. Tape could have been 10/4/70, or maybe 8/6/71 Set II, that sort of early show. For some odd reason (as in I liked the song) I threw on the Stones' cover of "Going to a Go Go" from a tape I'd made off the radio broadcast of the 1981 Hampton Coliseum show. A while later my friend calls me up - "I was playing this dead tape at a party the other night and at the end out of nowhere there's this freaking Stones' cover and I'm like who the hell would do that?? and then I realized it was (Bluecrow)!!"

    Was with that same friend and some of his Cali buddies at the Red Rocks shows August '87. In the stands night 3 and one of them says "Back when Jerry was in a coma I would have gladly listened to a full show of Jerry playing nothing but US Blues over and over and over." Then he gets this sort of crazy look and a big smile and adds "But not anymore!! You hear that Jerry?!" Those were the days. It was all good. Personally I really like the tune - just quintessential Hunter/Garcia. Some of those early versions in '73 and '74, particularly coming out of some crazyspace jam, are just killer. And of course you don't have to go any further than the GD Movie to see just how fun it could be.

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    They Need More Special Releases

    There must be a balancing act or handshake agreement between Rhino and GD Merch on how many releases vs. their (I think) ten year contracting period.. but instead of mega box sets how about moderate boxes and a couple more one-offs? Or even if they give us a five or six show box, how about a super special, well-fitting single show one-off just because? #More68orStormtheVault

  • seabird17
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    Show Filler Norman OK 10/11/1977

    The Norman was considered as Dick's Picks Vol 1
    Should have included this as filler. Better yet,
    give us the whole show as a special release.

  • JimInMD
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    Re:'68 or Bust..

    You know, these pitchforks and torches are nice.. but in hindsight I think they are going to regret selling us all those Workingman's Dead Hatchets.

    Still, when was the last 68 release not a part of 30 trips? Can you imagine something as incendiary as Kings Beach Bowl or Big Rock Pow Wow or Avalon 2/14/68 getting released as a Dave's Picks? Or as a special release of some sort. I really do suspect there are more 8-track Winter of 68 to be released at some point.. but that's an unsubstantiated guess. (perhaps a hope or a dream)

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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This a a 2-cd set of Hollywood Bowl 9/22/72
Dark Side-Disc1
Careful, Echoes, Saucerful, Set The Controls-Disc 2.
I’ll have to track this down, looks good.
Listening to Billy Cobham Live Ayajala ‘78
The Magic Band tour Chicago 3/4/78.
Getting ready to cue up Dave’s 21-Boston Garden 4/2/73…getting ready in advance of ‘74 show, coming soon(I hope).

Music is the Best!!

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I really wanted to go this show but...
1) I was living off the road in between San Luis Obispo & Morro Bay working for the Cal Forestry
2) I was a bit put off by the "commercial success" that allowed the band to play the Bowl (stupid, I know)...I had seen
the previous two tours, Atom Heart Mother & Echoes at the much smaller Santa Monica Civic Auditorium
3) Because of work I had to make a decision of seeing the PF gig or seeing GD do two nights at
the Hollywood Palladium two weeks prior to the PF Bowl gig...a no brainer...

Since you mention seeing them on the AHM and Meddle tours, and thus being quite familiar with Floyd before they hit that mainstream success with DSOTM, I wonder if you recall what your initial impressions of DSOTM were. Gilmour in Classic Albums famously says he wishes he had the experience of being a music fan in 1973 hearing the album for the first time, since they had played most of the album for a year before it came out, then recording and re-recording them, then mixing, he feels he missed out. Especially interested in your take (and anyone else of that awesome era who remembers Floyd pre-DSOTM) on that evolution following Saucerful, AHM, Meddle, and Obscured.

I have a decent collection of Floyd liberated boots from my days downloading from dimeadozen and Trader's Den, etc., pretty sure Hollywood Bowl was in there. I tried to get as many versions of Echoes as I could find. Loved that they brought it back for Wish You Were Here tour, plus Raving and Drooling and You Gotta Be Crazy, the pre-Animals Sheep and Dogs.

I didn't see Pink Floyd until 1975, when they played a large outdoor festival at Knebworth. But I started buying their
albums in 1972. The first one I got was the budget compilation " Relics" followed by "Meddle" and then "Umagumma". I loved these albums at the time, and they sat alongside albums of what has since become known as "space rock" - Hawkwind, Gong, Faust - the amazing Wolf City" by Amon Duul 2.

My brother got Dark Side of the Moon almost as soon as it was available, and.....it was clearly a great album, but it didn't actually have the qualities I liked most about their earlier albums. It seemed like they had gone mainstream, in a way. Before Dark Side, they were very much a "head" band, and were seen, as I remember it, being quite avant- garde. Great spaced out epics like "Saucerful of Secrets" "Set The Controls For The Heart of The Sun" and Echoes". With Dark Side they seemed to become more of a straights band, singing about the grimness of modern life.

They were nowhere near as much fun live as Hawkwind in the mid 70's. I can remember seeing Floyd live in 1977, in a huge air hangar - this was shortly after "Animals" had come out. Everybody was squatting awkwardly on the concrete for hours on end, and when the Floyd finally fired up, someone stood up. The bloke squatting next to me angrily shouted at them to sit down-and then turned to me and said "The Floyd deserve to be listened to." This was why punk happened.

That's sort of what I was thinking would be a fairly typical response to what does seem to be a much more mainstream direction. Which is also why Echoes being the direct antecedent to Dark Side is so interesting, since one is an extremely exploratory song, the other an album of musical and lyrical coherence, but still retains aspects of Echoes. Also, quite funny how a lot of Floyd fans in the decades since are largely fans of DSOTM-The Wall, maybe even Division Bell, and quite a lot seem to passionately hate the more adventurous stuff. But then, maybe not so funny at all, since Deadhead camps exist where the Era Wars are real and ugly.

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My favorite band up until I attended my first Dead show.

Animals is my favorite album but the first CD I ever bought was Saucerful of Secrets in 1987.

Saw the trio in 87 and twice in 94, second night was complete DSOTM for Set2, same setlist as on the Pulse video.
Saw Waters 4 times, 2007,10,12,17.

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First, an apology for my addled memories...the choice between going to the Hollywood Bowl for PF or the Hollywood Palladium two weeks earlier for the GD was based purely on the fact that I'd rather see GD...DSOTM wasn't even released until 6 months or so after the Bowl gig... touring with unheard music was pretty ballsy...the Mother Heart Atom show was great with a small orchestra and choir accompanying the band...it started with "Astronomy Domine" and it just got crazier then that...during the floating wisps intro to "Careful With That Ax Eugene" a guy sitting in the orchestra pit, stood up with his hands over his ears yelling "STOP"...his friends tried to calm him but it didn't seem to help...Waters walked over to the edge of the stage, kneeled down and talked to the guy who finally calmed down enough to be escorted out by one of his friends to the lobby...crazy....I have a pretty decent for the time bootleg of this show and you can hear a disturbance but it's not clear enough to know what's going on...2nd set was "Atom heart Mother" with the "Interstellar Overdrive" for the encore...we went home very happy....for "Meddle" my memories aren't quite there...I remember "One Of These Days" as played but set lists I've seen don't show it...The ones I've seen only list one set but that can't be right...I do remember that as we waited in line it hailed on us which was pretty funny....earlier in the year I had taken a pretty nasty fall and broke my left arm and I had to be off from work for three weeks before I could go back to light duty...I went home to LA and because of being ther with my arm in a cast I saw The Stones at The Long Beach Arena & Pigpen's last show at The Hollywood Bowl...also at that time was when my picture was taken with Muddy Waters in the lobby of The Ash Grove as we were both there to see Johnny Shines play...'72 was a good year, broken arm and all!

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Alvarhanso - in some respects, the era of Pink Floyd leading up to Dark Side seems to have gained currency in recent years. The Early Years 1965-1972 box set is a treasure trove. And those gigs Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets played a few years ago, focussing on those years, were brilliant-to me, anyway. A cover band for sure, but one with credibility and fire power. They opened with Interstellar Overdrive and Astronomy Domine. Top that.

To me, Pink Floyd had three eras. First the Syd Barrett one, swiftly followed by the experimental phase, when Rick Wright was more influential. Rick Wright was also hugely important in developing their sound when Syd was at the helm - a very underrated musician. Then the Dark Side and beyond years, which seemed to be dominated more by Dave Gilmour and Roger Waters.

Nappy - that gig where they played Careful With That Axe Eugene sounds good. They did do a few well known soundtracks for films-but that experimental phase always struck me as something that would have gone well with horror films. Something by Dario Argento, perhaps.

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Alvarhanso-sorry to come back so quickly-but that phrase "era wars" always puzzles me a bit. I don't think there is a single band or artist I have liked where I have liked all their work. Most, if not all, of the ones I liked in the early 70's left me a bit cold as the decade progressed. A random sample - The Stones, David Bowie, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Hawkwind - yes, it is everyone! - personnel changed, style, approach, inspiration...they all seemed to follow a similar trajectory-rise, peak, decline. And maybe repeat the pattern. I never saw myself as a long term "fan" of any band, who needed to like everything they did. I have also never felt the slightest animosity to anyone who sees things differently-or who likes a different era of a specific band to me though. I am certainly not at war with anyone!
A lot of bands I have liked for decades - but there is a massive difference in quality - to me anyway- in the music they produced during that time.

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Though it does get ugly around here from time to time, mainly third and fourth Dave's of the year announcements and box sets.

But glad to hear all the excellent tales of Pink Floyd earlier years. I dig that stuff a lot, and love that box set. Would have loved seeing them back then. Though I could totally understand somebody freaking out during Careful With That Axe.

Apologies for misreading. Pink Floyd also seemed to be the main band that people in England got into when they started smoking dope in the early 70s. They were so big by 1977, that John Lydon-nee Rotten, in one of his attempts to upset the masses, wore a Pink Floyd tee shirt with "I hate" scrawled on before the bands name. Nick Mason put a replica of this tee shirt on display at the Pink Floyd exhibition in London a few years ago.

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So last week Sis tells me she saw a Dead show at Mammoth Gardens 4/24/70. Now she sent info about "another good show she saw", the Denver Pop Festival including 6/29/69 where she saw the final performance of The Jimmy Hendrix Experience. The festival was largely overshadowed by Woodstock two months later but was a Barry Fey three day gig for $15 with great lineups and setlists. Only four years removed from her "generation" but I had no idea Denver's scene was that good back then. Going to have to get some stories from her.
Cheers!
Edit: Listened to the aud. recording she sent with it. Interesting hour or so with the last song missing (Voodoo Child/Slight Return). Not Jimi's best, but he was blazing. Some bad stories about the teargas, etc. there at Mile High. Wasn't long after that a similar incident at a Red Rocks show with Jethro Tull got rock shows banned from that venue for many years. Times were tougher for hippies before I started going to shows, but I guess it happened to us as well when the scene just got too big later.

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There are NO WARS!!!!!!
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Amen to that. Always a worry when people feel the need to be at war with others who have different beliefs or ideas. I wouldn't want to be part of a society where everyone agrees with each other, and tries to shut down debates that question the status quo.

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In the old days, when you paid to have something done, you were rewarded by getting it ON release date! Today was listed as release date! Not only did I NOT receive my new CD, it appears that you haven't even bothered to ship it yet! This total lack of concern for your long term supporters, is soon going to bite you in the A$$!

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Starting this morning with some of Garcia's finest (LA Baker) and disc 3 of this gem! The band just kicked into Eyes and I must say, today is gonna be a good day!

Rock on, gang

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