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  • The Good Ole G…
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    Nice little Stayin' Alive tease right before MAMU for you Jim.

    Or was that part of the plan Slow Dog Noodle?

    Either way, pretty funny.

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    Sorry, been slacking here trying to get some work on my theater finished.
    FALL 73: I did finish that last week. Believe I left off with a fine 9/21/73 Rectum show.
    From what I can recall lol, 9/24&26/73 were pretty similar, actually, not surprisingly, not a lot of variety on this tour in general. Makes sense considering the focus on the new material and the use of supplementary musicians for this new material.
    In fact, the biggest trend I noticed on this mini tour, was that by the end, all “that” was relegated to the last part of the show, with the horn guys only on Eyes, WRS, and Sugar Magnolia. Early on, besides the aforementioned, they were on Truckin’ and occasionally elsewhere, and of course Let Me Sing. It’s a shame that one fell by the wayside but I’m guessing Keith’s shyness and having to be the front man singing was just never going to work?
    Anyway, Boo fa falo had a nice Here’s Comes a Sunshine, and I believe the tours only Sing Me Back Home, while the Burg had a nobodies, and of course overall many nice status quo Playin’s on the tour. Really glad I finally went through these, shitty tapes and all, interesting tour and yet another cool adventure by the boys to take it furthur!

    I can see why this probably wouldn’t get a full box treatment, but considering the historical elements, the new material, and the fine playing you would think a small 2-3 show release would be appropriate. I agree with the consensus that 9/11/73 is a must. All the above greatness while fresh and obviously fun for them, with a sweet Dark Star too. All that’s missing is a HCS! Next I’d say I concur with brother Bluecrow about 9/17/73 at Syracuse, with perhaps one from either Pittsburg or Buffalo thrown in to document the tour/horn/set list progression. So glad I finally went there, can’t believe it took me so long especially since fall/winter 73 has long been one of my top say five tours. It’s like a nice appetizer for that giant feast that followed!
    Ok, speaking of favorite tours, on to FALL 89.

    Did 10/11&12/89 2/3 times over the last couple days while I made a mess of my basement lol.
    Main thing I can say is it’s tough to follow those Hampton shows! Both 11&12 are good status quo 89 shows (mostly good, a few lesser moments too), but overall enjoyable sets, playing, energy etc, but I kept saying to myself, especially for 9/11 “these are hangover shows”.....You can literally feel the “elephant” and it’s energy have left the room so to speak. But since there has to be a “next” show, in typical GD workmen like fashion, they pick up the load and carry on.
    Like a Monday after a big party/reunion weekend!
    So far on the tour Jers been pretty strong and consistent, Bob, not so much? Brent was good in Hampton, but not as much here, even my fav Little light is perhaps that? Decent Pockey way and mostly good support work...enjoyed that whole sequence on 10/12 with an always fun second set Cumberland! Bob tries to steal one of Jerry’s versus which lends a palpable lift to the overall vibe such that you feel them all smiling at each other and it makes you smile too. I love these little nuances that shine through the Dead’s music.
    So perhaps these aren’t top shelf, If they lived in a different space not related to the shows around them, meaning taken on there own, their enjoyable enough, and of course have some of the nice weirdness that was a highlight throughout most of the tour. The drumz/space/midi sequences where awesome if your into that? But if I was constructing a box for this tour I’d could see not needing to include them....
    Next night it’s Bob and Jer on Letterman, and then back to the swamps of Jersey for 10/14, with a nice first set closing Help-Slip-Franks and I believe a solid second set? Have this one on tape, but not too familiar with....
    Probably try and give the 14&15 a few spins over the next couple days with a big Friday rave up of the mighty Nightfall of Diamonds 10/16/89 blockbuster! I still think overall this is one of the best single live releases ever, yet it seems to really fall under the radar? I think maybe the sound is the best of the 4 releases so far, but I’m getting ahead of myself.
    Ok, caught up....Onward!

    Oh, other catch ups:

    BIG THANKS to Bluecrow! Outta nowhere he remembered something I said I was missing months ago and when he found an extra, generously sent it my way! Amazing, thoughtful and a dose of just what the world needs, kindness!

    CASEYJ: another big shout out to you too, I don’t care what anybody says your awright!
    Oh, and with the holidaze shopping season coming up, he does fine dye work, especially if your looking for custom Chefs themed apparel....

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    No need to twist my arm to spin the great 4/24/78. Meanwhile, I will follow Oroborous footsteps into Oct 89. Now that I've turned on to the Warlocks shows, I feel the doors have been opened for all of Oct 89. I had forgotten that we have 10/16/89 in multitrack glory ("Nightfall of Diamonds"). That's another one I've neglected. I've barely even listened to that one. And then the great grand finale of 10/26 - this should be fun. Gooey psychedelic goodness, indeed. Looking forward to any other tour reports, Oro.

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    Completely agree cone kid. But that song seems to never go away, it just rattles around in your head.. sort of like stepping on a big wad of gum, it's annoying and takes way too long for it to go away.

    My comments on the Download Series are the same as they were 14 years ago.. I feel they could have done more with the sound. Either that or the masters were not AAA+ Blue Chip. Still good shows and I use them occasionally when I want to go down the path less travelled.

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    Far more tolerable than rap/hip hop and twangy country.

    Bring on some Disco Dead.

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    Thanks Jim, a little 69 for a change of pace sounds good. And Dave's Picks #7 for tomorrow sounds great. 4/24/78!

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    Works for tomorrow..

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    And I was just about to suggest 4-24-78. Good thing I didn't! :)

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    a shortie. Hope everyone has this.. if not PM me.

    Download Series 12: April 17, 1969 at the Washington University in St. Louis, MO

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grateful_Dead_Download_Series_Volume_12

    Disc one
    "Hard To Handle" (Redding, Jones, Isbell) - 7:18
    "Morning Dew" (Dobson, Tim Rose) - 10:21
    "Good Morning Little Schoolgirl" (Sonny Boy Williamson) - 9:16
    "Dark Star" > (Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Ron "Pigpen" McKernan, Bob Weir, Robert Hunter) - 21:35
    "St. Stephen" > (Garcia, Lesh, Hunter) - 2:34
    "I Know It's A Sin" > (J. & M. Reed) - 3:45
    "St. Stephen" > (Garcia, Lesh, Hunter) - 3:01
    "Turn On Your Lovelight" (Malone, Scott) - 19:13
    Disc two
    "That's It for the Other One" > (Garcia, Kreutzmann, Weir) - 22:44
    "Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)" (Grateful Dead) - 1:53
    "The Eleven" (Lesh, Hunter) - 13:57
    "Dupree's Diamond Blues" (Garcia, Hunter) - 5:06

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    Send us a pick Jim.

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Na, hanging in there but stuck in a painful wait and see endless loop. PT helped a little, but it's torn. Now I am jumping though the hoops and eating valuable time and deductible coinage fighting my way though the system. It happened mid-summer and I'm not that close to getting the MRI that will tell the world that in fact, one of the tendons in my rotator cuff is torn. Something I have known since mid-July. A part of my thinks they drag things out to get double the deductible offset than they would if they could treat the damned thing in a single year.

Is this what Deep Elem Blues is about? Oh sweet mama, daddy's got those Deduct Elem(ble) Blues? Nevermind, even my terrible sense of humor isn't working.

Gives me a little more time to keep up with you folks here though.

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Plastic surgeon?
Maybe I still look young since I hadn’t totally sold my soul to the man yet and started 16 years of hard prison time : (

Yep, we need Jim to get that arm working again, so he can get his paddle on, so he’ll be happy, and thus come here and make us all happy with his good vibes! ; ) JK, know how much it means to you so hoping for a full recovery!

Hit 2/10&11/89 today, and might go for a DHB and hit the last night on the 12th..
Besides some of the spring tour, I’m not familiar with first half of 89.
These were ok, feel like they got better as they go/early part of year etc?
Gonna try to hit 89 hard next year…

FALL 89: why are those awesome multitracks just rotting in the vault FFS…
I’d say a tasty box, and look Dave, I already did the work!

10/9&10/89: released

10/11&12/89: ok, but since something would need to be cut, I’d choose these…
*10/14/89 is worthy and prolly best of Jersey sans 10/16…
10/15/89: runner up, depending on box size, or good DaP
10/16/89: released. Ridiculously under rated!

10/18/89: only tour Shakedown. Runner up depending on size, or would be good DaP
*10/19/89: definitely needs to come out!
*10/20/89; ditto, might even be better? Cali Quake!

10/22/89: runner up depending…?
*10/23/89: Attics and Cali Quake…

*10/25/89; not the best show of tour, but should get in for inclusion purposes if nothing else?
10/26/89: released

9/29;89 could be a DaP…since the above make a good size box, think spring 90 etc…

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Hope you get that worked out Jim. Not fun.

Would love to see some more fall 89 released. However, the way things have been going, I think Dave is on a 169 year plan.
And don't forget those July Alpine shows.

So much to release and time is ticking away.

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10/20/83 yesterday, sorta while tunneling in the garage
4/14/70 and soon 5/2/70. All this 70 talk….
Ok, back to the gare ige …
why do we keep so much crap?

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Still think #48 is an odd pick. I listen to 71 shows fairly often. Pretty sure the Pauly Pavilion show was part of ABCD returned reels. The Port Chester shows are probably my favorite shows of the year, but there are clearly other great shows. That November Austin show is fantastic.

Heard someone mention on another thread that they didn't really like Dave's #21? We all have different tastes, that is for sure, but this is one of my favorite releases they have put out. This really reinvigorated my desire to listen to more Dead. I mean the Rex recording is phenomenal. The Boston Garden in April 73 must have been quite the scene.

Have it going now in fact and the China Rider is one of the best of 73, to my ears.

Stay well out there.

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Don’t think so DV?
I just checked the ABCD list and didn’t see it?
Wonder if Big Red was pestering him to release it?
I mean, hey, if any of us had inside access, would we not petition Dave?

I agree though DV, bit of a head scratcher. Yeah it’s a good show, but there’s some real obvious ones that most folks would consider better…but I’ve spewed my picky DH pontificating negativity enough and will I’m sure, get a few good listens out of it before it joins the ever increasing good, but not go too club.
Let’s hope he’s just jerking our chain about “we don’t save things” and is just trying to evenly dole out the goods on the 169 year plan?
I dig the Capitals, but that’s almost like a different year compared to after KG was hired, so hard for me to compare…

How’d you guys like that 84? Maine always seems to be one of “those” places.
Heard this one not too long ago, and will definitely hit it next year!

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Follow my sister's plan.

If you haven't looked at or touched in a year,,,, GARBARGE!

I'll admit she's a hardass. Her first born went away to college, she trashed him.

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Mornin', rockers!!!

Hey, another memorable anniversary. Carrier Dome. 1984. Single drop of liquid 25. Pretty solid and enjoyable show........

Angry Jack Straw, you out there?????

Probable impossibilities are to be preferred to improbable possibilities...........

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Which list do you have OB? There are a few out there and then the secret lists. Kind of like being on double secret probation.

The show from 10/12/1984 is a good show for the time period. Don't need love didn't make it too long on the circuit. Definitely sounds like an eighties tune.

Carrier Dome. I have listened to this show in the past, but right now can't recall much of it except maybe a rocking Shakedown.

Just finishing up Dave's 21 this morning. My god, I love this show.

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2-1-78 on new JOTW.
They were listening in on us again.
Cheers

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Fate Music: the new alphabet

I think brother Conekid hooked us up with this?

Carrier Dome: again, I’m saving 84 for next year, but have heard 84 the most outta the three.
Aaa red sweethearts, yep, good sheet Mon! Perhaps we met at the NYS rest area ; )
Looking forward to hitting 10/22/83 this WE for my personal 40th and since I’ve been flogging around in fall 83 lately.
Hit 10/20/83 again today, along with 11/1/73. Oh, rollin the awesome Dylan 30th anniversary concert again. Forgot how great this is if your not familiar! Good FAC tunes…

Ha! I hit the other uptown’s last week but forgot to post! Same as this February 89s: seemed to get a little better every night? Or maybe I’m getting mixed up? Enjoyed, I know these are Bluecrow gold. I dug em awight, but still think April sets the par for 78 (no offense of course to BC or 1stshow etc)

Garage/garbage: yeah Dennis my BFF taught me that one. He’d hit the basement once a year and liberally use the one year rule lol. Funny coming from you though ; ) mister biggest collection in the world guy lol
My problem is I have access to too much hardly used gear that I think “well, this is too good to recycle since maybe someday I might have a use for this “ mhhmmm, so far my battin a average is on the side of shut up and pitch it lol.
Happy Fri yay amigos!

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If anyone does check out these fine shows, you’ll definitely want to go SB!
The shows were fun as always, but the place sounded like shite mate.
It’s a testament to the awesome GD/Ultra sound crew they got it as good as they did, but still, that place sucked!
But if you go SB all three of the shows are good for their respective years…

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Thanks Cone Kid.

That's not nearly enough. I wonder if they ever got the ahole guy to cooperate?

Thinking about this a bit. Why would they publish or leak a complete list of what was returned? The element of surprise and hype sells. There is more than a marginal chance that as time goes on, more of Betty's tapes materialize. Could be wishful thinking, but why publish or release a list if you were them?

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Just heard of the passing of jazz great Carla Bley. Nice to see that list, though it reminds me of how under represented 1968 is for "official" releases... Banging the primal drum again, understood questions remain, whats in the vault. Releasing partial lists teases keeps the buzz going. Will there be a primal box? The archive shows roughly thirty plus shows across 1968, iirc, there's only abut five shows released commercially. Cold rain and snow here, could be the first firing up of the wood stove this season. Trying to find a Matt Gaetz mask for Halloween.

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This jotw is lovely! (deleted various things to see if I could get this to post)

Oro I love your spade work prepping the way for Cap'n Lemieux and a Fall 1989 box. Such an exciting time (redacted various things to see if I can get this to post). I got my hands on a good copy of 10/9 set II by that Thanksgiving, and by year's end my friends were passing around complete copies of some of the Brendan Byrne shows including 10/16. But your rundown of other contemporaneous shows makes me realize there are quite a few I've simply never heard.

As to cleaning house, I'm with Dennis. If you haven't touched it in a year, give strong consideration to placing it into the garbage. When we moved nearly 2 years ago, we'd been in the same house for 16 years. The "aha!" moment for me was when I took down a box from a little-used closet shelf, and the ceiling above it caved in. Obviously that says more about the landlord not doing preventative maintenance than anything else (and that's a big reason we finally moved) but it's a lesson/metaphor: if you have a box that is holding up a ceiling, you obviously don't need its contents...

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Yes, I agree Jim, I don't think they will ever release an official list of what was returned from the transaction or what they even have in the vault. Keep them guessing.

Not sure if Rhino still needs to credit ABCD with assistance on releases as Kezar was on the list of returned reels but not mentioned in the HCS Box (as far as I remember).

Maybe we will get some #49 news this week.

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Which box set was holding up your ceiling?

Further proof that Europe 72, Fillmore West 69 and 30 trips are foundational items we simply cannot live without.

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Jim LOL let's just say the shipping box for the Pacific Northwest box set was on the same shelf

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In this week's Taper's.
An audience tape.
Not sure I've ever seen them do that.
Cheers

Great to see you again Bolo. Still a core group of crazies here. See what you started??!!

1stShow - not sure what to make of an audience source for 1/31/78 in the taper section except to highlight a gap in the SBD. Do know the Let It Grow to finish Set I rips. Now onto the Scarlet.

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That explains Putin's heart attack.

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....I've been ignoring this thread recently. Got put my game face on it seems.
Y'all been active. Love to see it.
And Putin did have one it seems. So close.
Keller effin Williams! Wow.

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57 years ago today, I moved with my family from Houston to the San Francisco Bay Area. Talk about culture shock!

Less than 3 months later, my barely 12 year-old self was accidentally exposed to the Grateful Dead for the first time when I was dropped off in Golden Gate Park with new friends. It happened to be the day of the Human Be-In. I had no idea what was going on, I just knew that the world was not as I had known it - and I liked it!

Been in a glorious purple haze ever since.

Since last update, In no particular order (that would require a functioning memory ; )
Hit and enjoyed my 40th anniversary double shot of 10/22/83.
6/25/78 was another big show that was definitely played to the situation/gig (both big and loud)
5/2/70:
11/17/71. Good but not RJ
5/9/78 ok show, but aud only
3/10&12/85: 1st time. Good but not great…
12/6/73 bonus disc. The MJ “beat it” Dark Star!
9/22/93: whoa, who knew 93 could be this good?

Ok, I think that’s all?

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Yes sir, I’m all about the nuts, bolts and stats. I’ve done all of Summer 85, Fall 89, fall 91, E72, Spring 83 (and whatever I forgot) in order, without any other Dead intermixed. I feel it’s the only way to fully deepdive a tour.
I then carefully consider set lists repeats etc and attempt to construct the best possible box from the tour.
So basically, I’ve done at least half the work for ole David, but for some reason he never seems to reach out ? ; )

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You have been busy OB. 6/25/78, there is another one I can't recall at the moment if I have ever listened to that one. Might have to check it out.
Currently, just about to finish Dick's 31 and I kind of feel like keeping that 74 vibe going. I mean, come on, it is 74. Where to next?

Way too cold here in MN already. Trying to squeeze in my last round this afternoon before the courses close and then the World Series tonight.
Stay well out there.

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Been in 1974 mode lately thanks to GD Hour selections and this fits right in, thanks for the suggestion DV. Just starting and you know it's going to be good when they start with a Playin'. And this one is ripping. Great jazzy feel so far. Sure beats raking leaves!
Cheers

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Doing the anniversary listen.

139303.cm.miller

Would love a ‘91 Box.

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Finishing up the 3rd and 4th CD this morning.
Our first snow today, didn't stick to roads.
For a mix tape release (ala RT series) this was laid out like a couple of shows. Probably wouldn't have even known if I was just casually listening and didn't look it up. And fine shows they were! Love the jazzy, tight nature of 1974. Everyone really on the same wavelength here. Polished even more than '73 but not the Just Exactly Perfect (read slow) pace of the early post hiatus era. 8-4 and 8-5 both so good, what a pair of shows that would have been to see. I have tapes of the 8-6 used as filler here and it has also been a favorite all these years (Playin> Scarlet> Playin'). Highlight may be the WRS on 8-4 and the seamless transitions like the one between that WRS and Wharf Rat. Not only are these shows firing on all cylinders, the engine has been modified for increased horsepower it seems.
Going with DRs pick over on the 48 thread of the 10-29-77 anniversary DaP 33 for a lazy Sunday snow day.
Cheers

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Too early for snow for me, but, it is that time of year already.

Agree Firstshow and really enjoy the Jams out of songs from this time period. Early Peggy O always satisfies. After 31, went right to RT2.3 . All three CDs are great, again really dig the Jam out of Truckin, into Wharf Rat, GDTRFB and Sugar Mag.
Hit the bonus disc from Dave's #2 at the Capitol Center.
Might have to que up 9/18/74 next from the 30 Trips box next.

Hope you all receive your #48 soon. I don't have a shipping notice yet.

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Our first snow comes tomorrow, I seriously doubt if it will stick. I might have to pull a good release that opens with Cold Rain and Snow.

I love DiP 31, especially when it first came out. Disc 1 is worth the price of admission alone, but all four discs are full of magic.

I've been dancing around 10/21/83, 10/14/83, 10/8/89 and 3/28/73 (Worcester 30 Trips, Hartford DiP6, Formerly Warlocks Hampton, Springfield DaP16), mostly OB suggestions. It had been forever since I listened to the 83 and 89 shows, and Springfield.. well, do we really need a reason to put that one on.

Went to a real freaky Halloween party Saturday night dressed as the sorcerer from Fantasia, got fungaldosed which was nice. MRI tomorrow.. I get to find out if I will recover or get a shiny new six-million-dollar bionic arm instead. I still remember that sound effect Steve Austin used when he went into bionic mode. You'd think we would have that technology figured out by now..

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Someone gave Jerry a pot brownie in Sweden 10-13-1990

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Doing some Halloween Radio City from nineteen eighty.
Ten twenty nine seventy seven was OK.
Distracted listen or just too many wahoo shows lately to compare fairly.
Best wishes on the MRI Jim.
Cheers

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Been having a high time here lately, sort of.. went to a wickedly wild Halloween gala over the weekend. The first psychedelic Halloween event I have been to since college (actually three parties Sat, but the fun one was last). Great bluegrass being played almost everywhere you went. Two freakishly fun parties tonight as well, all within a couple blocks from home so no driving, etc., work tomorrow will be light.

My MRI today did not go as I had hoped.. I thought I had a partial tear in one tendon in my rotator cuff (Supraspinatus), something where the repair is not the biggest of deals. Turns out two of the four tendons in my left arm rotator cuff are not only completely severed, but the tendons have recessed far away from where they need to be re-attached making the repair more difficult. Much worse than anticipated which sort of blows, but that's life.

We could have us a high time, living the good life....
....Wel-eelll I know.

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I'm in pain just reading that. That and docs HO are bummers. Glad to see you keeping your head up.

Maybe our luck will turn around sometime here soon.

Comes a Time for 30 DOTD

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Sorry to hear about that news Jim. Hope they will be able to find a solution for you. Doesn't sound like PT will get you there.

Oh and I almost forgot, Hey Now!

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It appears anything beyond one syllable words get hey nowed.

Ill try again later

We got our first snow here today, this show opens with a decent Cold Rain and Snow. Jerry was married backstage in-between sets. Great third set, good recording, good show. Well I Married Me a Wife, She's Been Trouble All My Life.

Thanks for the positive thoughts. I've been very fortunate, I was due. Dropped four flights and cracked my spine..

Edit: Goes to show, the seventeenth try's a charm. Right back at you crapatcha and heynow.

I think that term as a form of greeting may have been ruined for all time now. Maybe someone should tip Dave off before his next lecture.

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Received an Email this morning from this site that stated Hey There!

I received my #48 last night so will be diving in and then I will hit that 82 New Year's show. Thanks Jim.

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I just got Hey There'd

These forms look different. narrower, you can fit less on a screen.