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April 6, 2020 - 9:47am

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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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August 22, 2022 - 3:53am

#1871

daverock

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September 1, 2014

BCT box

I'd still buy it in a shot, of course, and it would be great news if it did come out.
August 21, 2022 - 6:14pm

#1872

JimInMD

Joined:
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BCT

I'm partial to the BCT shows, I think they are great.. but truth be known, I have big holes in my Fall 72 listening. The Texas stuff is fantastic also.

Good points, time will tell I guess. Owsley recorded a lot of the late 72 shows, and now that the Banana Box mystery is starting to unravel.. we might get our answers. Of the great stuff we know exists, there are a lot of 69 shows that were recorded and have not been released, but most do not sound as good as the last Dave's Picks, and there are a good bit of 72, 71 and 73. 68 and 74, not so much.. 67 almost nonexistent which brings us to post hiatus where 76 and 78 have a lot to chose from and beyond that, enter the cassette / PCM era.

Still, I stand by the BCT shows. They are worthy. I thought the BCT and Fox were the unreleased gems of 72 from the shows I had listened to anyway... This being before the STL box and Dave's Picks 24.

So where were we?

Edit: I really have to wonder both how many times these master reels were played back in the day which would lead to degradation. On the other side of the same coin, I wonder just how much better Mr. Norman is to spinning 50+ year old polyester tape into gold. To me the turning point in his prowess of all things GD was the 5/15/70 Road Trips, adding in the WOS and Big Rock Pow Wow for good measure. He stepped up his game during this period. I have to wonder how good Dicks Picks 1, 3 and 16 would sound if he remastered them today, god forbid E72. These later day releases are like pennies from heaven to me. 43 wowed me. It was an in the park home run.
August 21, 2022 - 12:45pm

#1873

daverock

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BCT 1972 box?

Would these shows make a better box than ones from the following four months though, if you had to choose one 72 run over the others? Maybe they would be just as good - I have it in mind that they re-started a bit hesitantly in July, gathered pace in August, then peaked in September and maintained this on through to the end of the year. I haven't checked this theory out listening to all the shows, though, just a sample.
August 21, 2022 - 10:43am

#1874

JimInMD

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The Great Mystery of BCT 1972

I asked Lemieux about this years ago and he replied quickly that not all these reels are in the vault. ..but they do circulate in high quality. I'm not what to make of all this, clearly they were recorded and someone in modern times went through the trouble to clean them up and get them in circulation.

Dave's Picks 24, 8/24/72 came compliments of ABCD Enterprises, so even though Bear recorded them the master reels must have somehow reside with Betty. Perhaps ABCD still has a little life to give and a deal can be extended to these source tapes? Maybe they are already in the vault or in a banana box on the top shelf somewhere? They are Bear recordings after all. I'd love a box of the remaining three shows. This is one that should be released all at once and not cobbled together as Dave's Picks.
August 21, 2022 - 7:28am

#1875

billy the kiddd

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8/24/72

My brother went to 8/24/72. It would have been nice if they would have released this whole run as a box set.
August 21, 2022 - 7:28am

#1876

daverock

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Berkeley 1972

I listened to the official 8/25/72 last week and was really impressed - short by the standards of the day but powerful. I guess maybe they had lost a fair proportion of their set list with Pigpen, and hadn't quite figured how to fill the gap yet. So I went to the second set of 8/21 straight afterwards - great Dark Star with Keith leading at one point. Pity they couldn't have slipped this in with the relevant Dave's Picks.
August 21, 2022 - 6:24am

#1877

Forensicdoceleven

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The soul has illusions as the bird has wings……

Hey, rockers!

Pick Of The Day: Berkeley Community Theater, August 21, 1972

I have realized that the past and future are real illusions, that they exist in the present, which is what there is and all there is……..

The first night of this very solid four night run finds the band in fine form, playing well, with the usual 1972 gooey Dead goodness, rock and rollers and cowboy songs. The major deadness is the oh-so-interesting Dark Star. I don’t know scales from whales, but interested readers are referred to Henry Kaiser’s spot-on analysis in Deadbase X. The band channels its focally dissonant, focally atonal, A mixolydian selves to produce what might humbly be classified as magic.

Not as famous as the 24th, and not officially released like the 25th, but a show without illusions, and mighty, mighty good for the soul……

Therefore trust to thy heart, and to what the world calls illusions……

Rock on,

Doc
Our experience is composed rather of illusions lost than of wisdom acquired…..
August 20, 2022 - 3:42pm

#1878

icecrmcnkd

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6-22-91

I was there, so was Spacebro.

There is pro-shot video of that show.

Dave,
CD/Blu-ray combo please.
August 20, 2022 - 1:30pm

#1879

Oroborous

Joined:
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PT Spring 91, 9/9/82

Ooo, 4/8 does look interesting!
Looks like good Sunday show, so mañana, on the list!

I know we hit 4/7 on your recommendation and was a solid show.
We’ve hit some good ones here on POTD: someone picked 3/25, DV gave us 3/31, Bolo 2/19, and my fav from spring (so far) a fine outing from 4/1 via brother Conekid!

If/when we do get a 91 outta Dave, I’m guessing 6/22/91 or 9/26/91 since there on his “list” that he’s been chipping away at fairly regularly over the years. Plus, when he goes to these “not Betty, 70s etc” he tends to pick a place with a high population and often shows with big crowd capacity: Giants, MSG, RFK, Boston Garden etc perhaps figuring even if the pick doesn’t fly off the shelf, there’s enough of a potential base that it’ll sell out?

9/9/82: interesting show, sounded great except a couple of splices, and the speed may have been off, at least at first.
It seemed a little fast, so perhaps recorded slow, but I don’t think that’s the whole story. I think their playing super fast and the tape just adds to it. Whatevs, their on a mission. Interesting set list, some occasional misses, like the transition back to Uncle Js, but it’s a cool idea and nice variety, and from there on out status quo but generally well played..
perhaps not the best of the year, but another interesting solid outing from a year of the same!
Really enjoy these early Strangers, and especially the West LA’s with the alternative lyrics, and hey, a Day Job for good measure.

Ok, gonna hit a little 11/2/69 before the Other One gets home. Then hopefully some video tonight…
ONWARD!

EDIT: VERY GRATEFUL DAY yesterday!
4/14/78
9/9/82
11/2/69
David Bromberg: tge best of DB out of the blues
Grover Washington jr: Mister Magic
Wynton Marsalis: Standard Time Vol I
6/14/91: Vault View II (video)
8/18/89: m/o 2nd set on youstoob
Thanks Conekid, hadn’t checked any of 8/18 out. Was really enjoying it!
Funny cause I read your post, but thought 7/18, which is what I lamented about missing, so then at 11:30 or whenever I went there, of course I started watching 7/18 before finally remembering (had to go look lol) that you were digging on 8/18. I’m blaming it on age, not the Pioneer Gold lol. So I got a couple tunes from 7/18 too.

8/21/72: meh, heard that a few times, maybe at work? Nice Dark Star!
Ooorrr maybe I’ll hit the 22 as I’ve not heard that one?
First I’m having my morning Joe with PT on 4/8/91!
August 20, 2022 - 12:45pm

#1880

PT Barnum

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Oro Spring 91

I was at the three-night shows in Orlando April 7-9 Good times, a nice Ruben on the 7th one of the best later year Eyes on the 8th and a good TOO>Wharf Rat on the 9th.
Bolo, she may not be impressed but I am. Great call.
4-14-78 I have not heard this show, will have to check it out. I'm gonna stay in 91 for a while with 4-8-91, can't get enough of that second set. Usually when a show starts with Mississippi Half Step and ends with Johnny B Goode, it's a scorcher, and this one is. Then I will check out the 78.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

RT 2.3

Rollin,
Six Sixteen and eighteen from seventy four
Including awesome bonus material from kind poster here.
Thanks Again, yer too kind!

82 Etta

That’s one’s a gas!
Phil’s Lovin the new six string.
Must see tv

Re: RT 2.3

Instant classic, and one of my first tapes.

I'm trying to stick with one and two syll a ble words in hopes my post gets through.

Damn you evil IT underlords!

Had a long thoughtful post yesterday

and I got shut down. Curses! Foiled again!

Starting the morning with a big ole serving of 3/27/88 Hampton Set II. I feel better already. What a great show and great run.

I don't know now

I just don't know...

38 yrs tonight Rochester War Memorial yeah another of those brutal rainy blustery Ra-cha-cha days waiting in line,
but now out of the rain and smiles all around
Summer is gone, but the time is right

...if I'm going back again

Peace All!
uncle_tripel

11/7/85

I'm there! It's a warm and dry inside and the music is sweet (4 songs in).

Thanks Uncle T!!

Uncle T

Nice!
Those were great shows!
Dancin/Midnight and that Let It Grow is RJ fo sho!
Fungus fest times 11
And the hotel nearby we were at was completely taken over by freaks.
It was one of those were there’s a cat walk/balcony with the room doors, so that everyone had their doors open and the place was one giant party!
One of these nights I went first row for first set, but think that was the last time. I had started getting was into the hippie shake, better sound, and less hassles that being by the SB provided. After that, it was GA only at stadiums : (

Or Hampton, good Hampton! Maybe Philly still in 86?

11/7/85

I'm going to give that a try today.

Cycled through two of the three 83 OB picks last week. Fun. By the end, the kick drum problem that seems to be in some of those 83 shows was beginning to rattle me. Like, you can't unhear it. I really wish someone would have insisted on a separate mix for the tapes and bringing back the reel to reels. Dammit Healy (said with my best Mr. Burns face and posture).

I really like the return of the Dancin in the Streets and Midnight Hour that came in that era. And the recordings cleaned up a bit from 83 and early 84. No disco Dancin's here, or as Phil would later say.. no the GD arrangement not the disco one.

Revolution 1...

…Mr Garcia doing his best John Lennon for this evening. Well, you tell me it’s the constitution, well, you know you better change your mind instead.
GA was always loads of fun, on this particular evening spent Set 1 spent in front of the board. I had not danced out of a building like that night since Satisfaction Hampton Spring ‘83

Last five
JGB: 11/8/81 Rider College Gym (audience cassette); attended and being 12 miles away it’s the closest Garcia ever got to my backyard lol, and then @ 11pm the house lights were turned on which was about ¾ of the way through Deal, if you listen to the recording, at that moment you can hear the band really kick it in!

Elmore James: The Master of the Slide (CD)
Neville Brothers: Live @ Tipitina’s Vol.2 (CD)
The TRIO: Oscar Peterson, Live 1961 Chicago (vinyl)
The James Gang: ‘Yer Album (vinyl)

I can’t get NO, I can’t get NO, NO, NO, NO...

Peace All!
uncle_tripel

That Let It Grow

Kicks arse!

Might just as well go 11/8 today since nothing else…
Might as well might as well.

Hmmm...

Just heard that a certain "classic rock band" has tied Sinatra and Elvis for most albums (58) on Billboard's Top 40.

Wonder who that might be?

yeah

I heard that too!

We Are EVERYWHERE!

😎

At the end of that story

Rhino will also reissue all eight albums from the Grateful Dead’s tenure with Arista Records (1977-1990) in pairs between now and July 2024 beginning this Friday, November 10th with the band’s final studio album, Built To Last, and Without a Net, the 3LP collection of historic live performances from the late-Brent Mydland era……

There’s more but I keep getting Hey now’d

Direct to the source

liveforlivemusic

dot

com

/news/grateful-dead-most-top-40-albums/

If sentences get hey now’d

Give lynx

Will they ever...

...sort this out?

Constant hey nows on the other board

Maybe they'll send us one of these bonus discs as thanks for our patience. Or an early bird. Or a whirly bird.

Live Music is

better bumper stickers should be issued!

Rock On!

07-27-1973 Soundcheck

Just heard some bits of that on siriusxm. Never heard this before. I sense the birth of Fire on the Mountain somewhere in here.

We’re just

Clever androids

Agree

Clever Androids with a penchant for mind bending music and perhaps a strong dose of whatever Dr. Thompson is having (no offense to our Wharf Ratt kindred spirits)

I also did a twofer of 11/7/85 rolled into 11/8/85 with a sprinkling of 11/9/73 as a jammy middle layer. What a nice little 1985 sandwich. It made for an enjoyable backdrop to a productive couple of days and what a way to break up any monotony that might have otherwise oozed its way into my otherwise sunny couple of days.

I got to thinking, I know I have seen Dancin' openers and Midnight Hour closers before somewhere.. low and behold they sort of did this a couple times, 7.22.84 (but they added a Brokedown Palace encore) and they came close a couple other times which found me listening to 9.16.66 Avalon Ballroom (simply amazing early Dead, Vintage Dead in fact) and yearning for 1.3.70 Fillmore East. Holy cow, it's amazing just how many Grateful Deads there were.. it is not just one band but many similar but different bands rolled into one.

Hola Senor Bolo, welcome back from your travels.

5/5/1990

Okay, how does 5/5/1990 strike you all? I think this would be a first listen for me.

5/5/90

I can fit this in. Checking out the pictures of the show now. It was a hot one that day, 102 degrees. I'll add 9.16.66 and 1.3.70 for future consideration. 6.16.66 makes for a nice short little palate cleanser. A well known show, but man Jerry has some smoking guitar licks for such an early show in his career. If you heard just the guitar solos you might think it is the Airplane.

I'm a roll, very few hey nows today

Re: More Android Fun

I think this can be done. At least I'm pretty sure it can be done, figured out or otherwise find a way to force this one through.

The world would be a kinder, gentler place if we could somehow figure out a way to dose the bots and androids that will one day become AI. I realize we are not there yet, baby steps, perhaps we can start with world leaders and work our way up from there.

ok, back to whatever it was we were doing, as It's the Same Thing comes to rollicking end I am shutting down my PC for the day and moving on the getting shit done and listening to music.

Jim & 6/16/66

Right date?

I see none,,,, I see 9/16

5-5-90

I’ve heard it, it’s good if not RJ?
I’ll toss it on DV while I’m working.
Vguy was there, maybe he can give us some deets?

Ooops

9/16/66. I think it's show they sold as Vintage Dead

Hola

5-5-90: yep, good but…
Felt the couple of miscues and vocal flubs kept from RJ status, but otherwise solid and enjoyable!

Vintage Dead, I have that on vinyl, I’ll have to dig it out!

Hit 11/25/73 Friday. Another good fall 73. Perhaps a slightly different approach with no big TOO or DS etc…

Going 4/16/83 today. Have heard often in the past but being at work and only crappy device, gonna fire it up just because…

Onward!

Ra cha cha 85

Man I love those shows!

5/5/1990

First night since the hot shows at the Omni. This one was good, but not as hot as Spring 1990.
Fun first set, with LTGTR, The Race is On, Help Slip Franklins, Queen Jane.
Enjoyed the flow of Loose Lucy when they brought it back in March and a good one here.
Good second set. Will have to take a look at those other shows Jim.and OB.

Did you see the latest Dave L video? What a scene!

Hmm…Cal State ’90…

had that KPFA-FM broadcast on cassette since about summer '91 and I seem to remember (only remember because of the placement of help>slip>frank) Brent and Phil dominating the mix in Set One, don’t remember much of the 2nd set, probably should go back to it...

ORO – Ra cha cha nice energy from the boys; Seasons round, creatures great and small, up and down, as we rise and fall, RISE AND FALL! going with 9/15/85 while outdoors today, got lots of maple leaves that need some attention.

Hit 10/19/73 Dick’s 19 on Sunday while working on a cellar cleanout, and continued Fall ’73 yesterday with 10/23/73 Set II (always a good laugh from that 1st Encore).

Peace All!
uncle_tripel

Chula Vista

A ight
Didn’t go there but I’ve had a tape of this one fo ever
Good Sheet Mon!
Good one for shitty device work modification!
Wild set list…don’t peak!

10/23, ha, yeah, too funny

EDIT: enjoyed 9/15/85, cool show. Yeah Jers voice occasionally has the rasp thing going on, but not as bad as some, and he plays his arse off while the band smokes on!
Good pick for anyone not familiar.

No pick?

No problem!
Hitting 9/9/88 today.
Serendipitously ended up at 9/8/88 (good but not RJ) so figured I’d finally check out the rest of the run…

Crypto Shillers

Good to see you back! How did you make through Hey Now?

88 spectrum shows. I need to check those out OB.

Seriously, that got through

And I frequently get hey now’d

Scratching My (dead)head on that one.

I guess IT Nazi's Love Crypto.

Just goes to show

It makes no difference at all what you post as to whether you get stopped or not. This board desperately needs some maintenance work doing on it.

you'll never know...

When I started to initially post comments back in October, I was being hey now’d to the point of frustration. So it was at that point that I figured something I’m doing it’s not working, maybe it’s not recognizing my I.P., so I don’t log out anymore…and I don’t have to log-in, and their system still recognizes me.

I launch dead.net, and then click next to the pop-up to clear it, and at the top right of the screen is my avatar. I scroll over to the arrow, the pull-down shows various options and I click on "recent posts", and then I chose the “Title” of the posts I’m interested in reading and/or responding to. This process has been working well for me for several weeks, saving me time by not re-typing, or lost thoughts, and no more frustration, so I “jump fer joy”.

Peace All!
uncle_tripel

Big Sale

Been unseasonably warm here in MN so far this November. Been enjoying the last rounds this weekend.

Where were we

I see the end of the year sale is on. You can grab a copy of Here Comes Sunshine for 140. Wait you can't, because it is sold out.
However the Listen to the River Bo

Keep Getting Hey Nowed

Good Grief, can't get a full post through. Be well out there.

Wow

Just wow. I can't post anything anymore, I keep getting Now Heyed. MDJim got this one through, but Jim in MD.. nothing.

Now I'm all pissed off.

I guess we can write whatever we want

So long as we keep it to single syllable words and sentences chimpanzees have said using sign language.

God forbid we comment on a show or discuss complex dark star passages, we will have none of that, you will get "Hey Now you can take that post and shove it up your ass"

Is Help On The Way?

Marye, we are loosing posters and customers right and left here. Can anything be done to get us back to where we were? Just seems a shame that folks are bailing out. I miss them.
Cheers

posting

Someone noted they could post something simple, then went back and edited to add more, that did not pull the hey Now. My last post had a couple typographic symbols, did get the hey now until I removed them, so here's my first test with a clean post.

So that went through first try, no hey now, now now hey, here goes
!@#$%^&*()

and that posted fine, no hey now (second edit)

but it did not allow third fourth fifth of sixth edit tries...

this is ridiculous

what else is there to say...

help

can't post without hay now

wtf

lol

Worst part

Nothing, crickets..
If they at least had the curtesy to let us know what’s up etc, wether this nonsense, or the HCS nonsense.
This secrecy and/or just plain FU decades long loyal fans who give these folks way too much money and they can’t even be cool with us! FFS!

yep...

many of us have spent hundreds if not thousands chasing this music, live and recorded

hmmm... under twenty words no hay now (first edit)