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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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June 28, 2020 - 7:19pm

#6691

wilfredtjones

Joined:
June 4, 2007

Hershey

You know it's on Dave's radar as he has played some of it on 30 Days in past years. Good show and one of my first tapes. Keep the stories coming! :-)
June 28, 2020 - 5:16pm

#6692

Oroborous

Joined:
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6/28/85

So after basically staying up for 2 days at SPAC, we finally pack it up and hit the road the next day. I believe it was a rainy, gloomy day most of the day. But that didn’t stop our idiot patrol from basically racIng at high speed through the fine but conservative state of Pennsytuckey, where they were one of the last to let go of the 55 mph laws, and back then there usually wasn’t much tolerance. So 2 cars of totally raging nutknicks, with probably enough cargo to keep us detained for decades, thought it’d be a good idea to race at speeds up to 90!, Idiots!.....yes, one car had a radar detector, but in those days smart cops would wait for some nut traveling high speed and click it on when they had ya dead nuts.
Luckily, all was well and it was one more “miracle” as we earnestly pursued our quest for “too much of everything is just enough”, aaaa, never considered back then maybe Bob was being sarcastic? Lol
So we roll on into Chocolate town late and all beat up. I’m guessing we grabbed some kind of drive through, but not sure and as we were hardcore vegetarian then, perhaps we thought we’d grab something there? It’s all such a blur, I do recall the lot we were in had no or little Shakedown action going on. That still wasn’t in full flight anyway, and don’t recall much there, so maybe we drank our supper? I know I scored some Carlsberg Elephant beer, and believe I may have finished it, though that is a tall order even under good conditions so perhaps not. I’m sure I put in dent in it at least! So, that and the last of one z of veggies, though the tricky part was it was mostly just powder and scraps and so no normal produce to properly gage etc, which would turn out to be a tactical error...
So it’s late, we’re tired, but tweaked, perhaps no dinner, and of course it’s horrible out. Dark, rainy, and cold is usually not how you want to do your Dead. Eventually we get in perfect time, slip right in front of the SB and try to make the best of the situation. Well I had a shirt, a black baseball jacket, and the electric Buffalo Hyde, but even still it was damp and cold at first. Eventually, when things started to take hold and we started boogieing, we began to warm up a bit.
Meanwhile, the set list is awesome, but the conditions, which necessitated all the stage and PA speakers being covered in plastic (there was no stage lid) thereby severely effecting the audio. It’s was such a weird show that way, loved the little “stadium” and the nice audiophile stereo set up, with surrounds, great set list, mostly good playing, yes JGs vocals are a little ruff in the first set, but you have to cut some slack as it was terrible, I mean depending on the wind/rain they were getting rained on playing electrical instruments! Weird indeed, but like so many times in adverse conditions our heroes seemed to rise to the challenge. Thus the playing was perhaps more relaxed, steady and together and not forced like the previous night. Really, besides JGs vocal issues in the first, its a top notch show!
The second set really starts to take it higher with stellar versions of Music Never Stopped, Terrapin, Miracle and one of the best Dews I’ve ever seen! I think I saw about 14 or 15 Dews and when I think about Dews I’ve seen, this one is the one I always think of first! Rocking Stones/NFA with a spirited Day Job. I liked Day Job, but by now it was getting a tad old, and was a disappointment for this show considering how high it was at that point. A She Belongs or Baby Blue would of been a perfect Cherry on top, but perhaps that’s being greedy?
Now since the weather was such a factor, we must discuss that and how it influenced this show. The second set starts out with their “signing in the rain” as Bob says, and it’s a good’n! Next they slowly slid into an unusual sounding Tom Thumbs which I had never heard yet, and wasn’t even sure at first what it was, but hey, it was Phil so that’s all I needed to know! Good but perhaps truncated Estimated, followed by an awesome Terrapin. So as the set started to progress, so did the weather until (I think?) around Estimated it really started to clear up and they started pulling the plastic tarps down. It was almost like you could immediately hear it get better after each one was removed. Eventually by about Terrapin, they tarps we’re gone, the moon and stars were out, and Healy started increasing the volume and tweaking the mix. I remember we were goading him to turn it up, and man eventually he sure did!
As the night wore on it began to warm up a bit too. But as you’ve heard this scenario, or been there yourself, many times I didn’t feel quite high enough so what the hell, one more time with the powder veggie crumbles just before drums......hee-hee....you know, “I’m not feeling it?” and then...Dooah!
So the problem with those baseball jackets is they don’t really breath and the electric Buffalo Hyde was thick plastic. We didn’t have all the nice technical outer gear we have now, or at least WE didn’t. I could barely afford the free plastic one from the old mans work.
Well a perfect storm mounted; little or no food, Elephants, veggies etc, no sleep, excess everything and underlying exhaustion, with me starting to overheat due to the above and dancing with that plastic shell on. Things were going unbelievable well, and partly influenced by the very recent passing of my Grandfather, during Dew, things peaked musically, the sound, the night, the stars, emotionally etc etc until I had one of the most powerful musical/emotional/psychedelic peak experiences of my life. Perhaps my all time GD moment, it was that powerful. But what goes up must come down and just like that the radiator blew and that last handful of shroom dust fully kicked in and somewhere in Throwing Stones, right during ashes, ashes all fall down, well.....I say i didn’t really fall down, it was more like an immediate realization that if I don’t sit down rapidly, I’m going down! LOL, so one way or another, depending on who you believe, I end up down in the soft, cool mud until near the end of the song, but I swear just as I tried to get up I knew it wasn’t going to happen, so right on que again I go back down. My friends to this day always bring up my perfectly coreographed “Dance moves” above all else that happened on this tour..35 years later and it’s still “ashes, ashes, Pedro falls down” !
That would of all been well and good except things were very strange and weren’t wearing off, and I was barely functioning. I never would of found the car etc If not for my homies. Honestly all I remember is them pulling into a Wendy’s or something, but I just sat in the car with my face literally stuck to the window and crackled! Zzzzttttt. I really thought I had finally fried some essential circuits and thought this time I really did it. At some point I snapped out enough to find some kids in another car staring at me with a look of concern if not fear. Luckily, the boys finished up and came out and got us outta there. Somewhere near the state line we finally grabbed a motel as we all had had more than enough rain and adversity. Plus the next day was off and the drive short. I remember they propped me up in bed and I just sat and crackled and worried. Eventually I slept and though I felt better the next day, I didn’t feel normal and don’t recall much except when we got to Merriweather and found a good spot just over the creek, right next to the path, in some trees, on the way to the big parking lots to the right of the venue. But now it was nice and I was feeling more normal so not so freaked out. I also remember going to a nearby sorta plaza with an upscale liquor store where I scored my first sixer of EKU 28 ever which was awesome!
So now we’ve moved beyond the insanity of TOGA, the adversity and majesty of Hershey, and ready for perhaps the best overall show of the tour on 6/30/85....

EDIT: Otis, congrats on the stereo. All that matters is if your happy with it. After all the specs and hyperbole etc, no matter how big, small, expensive etc, in the end, that’s all that counts!
June 28, 2020 - 4:14pm

#6693

Thats_Otis

Joined:
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@ Bob T and Pick for Monday

Nice rec for the TDIGDH 6/28/76 show! I'd never heard that one before, and it is pretty sweet. The "Happiness is Drumming" is certainly a highlight!

I have been out of the loop for a bit - trying to deal with some personal stuff on my end, and I just kind of lost track of things around these parts. I hope to be able to participate more going forward.

To that end, how about a pick for tomorrow, Monday 6/29? I am thinking Dave's 31 - 12/3/79 Uptown. I feel like this pick got a short shrift on the DaP page, but I remember being very happy with it, though I haven't given it a proper listen since it first came out. What do you all think?

One positive thing that I have accomplished since I've been away has been the set up of my first component stereo system. I don't know if it compares to all of your "big boy" systems, but it certainly feels BIG in my little row home! Looking forward to playing it LOUD tomorrow when the wife goes to work.

Peace
June 28, 2020 - 11:41am

#6694

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Voodoo senile, slight return. 6/27/85, and why 85 Dead is like

Bode Miller...

First, GOGD, I did not mean to single you out, over generalizations, which become stereotypes, which become truth etc, really bum me out. So it was more of a trigger to that, not you personally. I know you were just repeating this line.
Actually, as I’ve dug in deeper, there are probably a significant number of shows where he often doesn’t sound so good, but to over generalize that “his voice was shot”, as in never more, to me, imho, that completely devalues and discounts all the amazing, great sounding stuff he was still able to do. 87,88,89,90,91anyone? Micro view versus macro perhaps?

SECOND: I must humbly recant my tale of dancin in the rain. As we were diligently experiencing TOGA last night. Too things became apparent. First, perhaps JG was a tad “caffeinated” at the start of both sets. Listening close on a real system, (not the big boy, but the living room system which ain’t no slouch!), he seems a tad to fast and/or their not fully entrained. One could argue not fully so until Women Are?...so probably something to do with him totally skipping the Key Rain Storm, and Jailhouse versus, of Bertha, lol.
Thus, while I wasn’t deceitful, I was not accurate. Sure enough, when Holmes and Watson ripped a spleef and fired up Bertha from SPAC 6/24/84, and bingo, ding, ding, ding, ding! Right venue, wrong year! 😂 Ooops, my apologies to the dear reader...but hey, it’s a fun interesting new tid bit, and it did rain, I think, lol.
While doing this research I was listening just on the iPad and interestingly he doesn’t sound as bad? Also, I’ve been going with the HS matrixes, especially shows where I want to hear those crowd big moments. Generally they’ve been pretty good, but researching, I used a CM transfer and man, definitely a big difference. Perhaps number one being the speed/time of the Miller seemed better and more natural?
Subjective I know, just that it’s interesting how every variable can effect perceptions.
6/27/85: so this beast is still as much of a rocket sled ride as I’ve thought, but it’s perhaps a tad more unpolished then I would of said in the past. But that’s being picky, and you know I prefer danger dead to safe, so as at this moment, Hell in a bucket is scorching, I stick by this show for that, the cool set list, and the fact that eventually, say around Women Are on out, that part of the show stands with its lofty summer 85 neighbors. Probably have to give 6/24& perhaps 6/25? a slight advantage overall, but man I haven’t been to many shows that had the vibe, fun, and overall madness of this puppy.

So why is 85 Dead like Bode Miller? He often was criticized for his erratic style, or lack thereof, his nonconformity, often disregard for the rules, including parting then basically going 80 MPH down an insane pitch, that was usually hosed down to make it more icy, and thus faster! So just like this era of Dead, sometimes he’d DQ, sometimes he’d slack off, sometimes it was ugly, but when he brought it, that mofo brought it!! and when he was able to be one with the force, it was fucking breathtaking! Scary, but breathtaking. No matter what, if he was racing there was an energy, an excitement, that larger than life vibe......that, to me, is 85 Dead.
FINALLY: Ladies and Germs, May I present the Electric Buffalo Hyde! as christened by my degenerate cohort due to my resemblance of the great beast of the prairies back in the day, and this baby used to be so bright people would ask if there were batteries. But Alas, like youth itself it’s faded dramatically, and is old and bartered. It definitely gave it’s all to R&R. So many Dead shows, festivals, camping, parties, you name it! Also, it will be a part of an unfortunate situation at the next night, where I lost my shit in Hershey! So until then....
June 28, 2020 - 11:14am

#6695

bob t

Joined:
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only time played anniversary show 6/28/76 Chicago Auditorium

If you are too busy to listen to whole show, listen to Happiness is Drumming from set II, if you have never heard or listened to listen you will be pleasantly surprised!!! There is a Charlie Miller soundboard on Internet Archive!!!! bob t
June 27, 2020 - 4:07pm

#6696

The Good Ole G…

Joined:
December 29, 2015

Good Times Great Oldies

Sounds like the ole SPAC '85 show will get some play today.

Always a fun revisit. Vguy & Keithfan that was you guys?! That's funny.

I guess I always thought this was an indoor show because of the balcony stuff and didn't know about the rain storm.

Tell us more.

And just for the record if I happen to say Jerry's voice is shot, what I mean to say is I love Jerry's voice, even though it's a little shot here. ;)

I agree, it always sounds great to me.

Enjoy party people!
June 27, 2020 - 11:21am

#6697

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Not a drop

We were out on the lawn so actually there were many drops, I mean it was already raining hard, and right when he sang that line, biblical!, but it just added to the madness and was one of my favorite concert/rain moments ever! I believe that’s right when folks crashed security on those balcony ramp ways and turned it into a free for all? Yeah, that was the shit, such energy all around, but that rain just took it to another level. Luckily I had my electric buffalo Hyde on! .....it was a psychedelic neon yellow long rain coat with
BS CORP
WORK SAFELY (from pops work) printed on back, and a Dancin skeleton sticker underneath that I added. Still have it! I should take a pic and post...fond it moving last year.
June 27, 2020 - 10:48am

#6698

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Summer 85, and why I’m not prepared for class

Deadheadbrewer: yeah, I’m with you, I can’t keep up with these rascals! Pant-pant 😉
Haven’t done Riverbend, Nassau or Dane. Prolly give Nassau a spin this WE. Dane I’ve tried to stay away from cause ya gotta believe their going to give us that one someday! Bastards better! and I’d prefer it on virginal ears!
hey, by the way, how you guys coming on that tunnel under the vault?
So I listen to Riverbend 6/24/85 sort regularly so no biggie there except in the sense of comparing shows. Except It’s cool to go in order to see the subtle changes and how things progress. Like 6/25/85, definitely have felt a ascending arc since the first night in Alpine. Funny thing is I don’t think I’ve heard the second set of this one before? Had a tape of the first all along, but I think it was a tad too crisp so didn’t get as much love as the shows around it. Plus I think maybe I harbored some subliminal resentment for the show because of our decision to skip it to go to Toga early like we did in 84, which was awesome. Obviously if it made us skip a show that close to home, but Doooaahhh. So not sure how it’s the shows fault. LOL, but I think somehow I’ve had some weird thing about this show that has kept me away? Sorry, ramblings of a deranged lunatic!
Anywho, finally gave this bad boy a spin yesterday, though had to do it in 2 sessions as life just keeps buttin’ in like a 3 year old when mom and dad are trying to get down! Man what a show. The only really noticeable hiccup I recall was JG at the start of Jimmy, and Bob missed a vocal, really a great set, better than I remember, though I always liked it, just the tape was lesser then the others...
Second set was hot too, though perhaps they lost just a little near the end? Or maybe that was me as it was late, and by that time on a Friday this ole cowboy is usually not feeling much pain! I recall a couple little blemishes, but so what, you name any show, anyone, and I can find stuff wrong. And sorry, but I’m kinda over hearing about how terrible JGs voice is. Yes, sometimes it’s ruff, but sometimes I think the gravelly age worn voice ADDs to the affect of the songs, which is perhaps what he did best. And frankly, I’ll take the gravel voice singing in tune over a lot of that 1970 stuff we’re between the guitars and the vocals something is ALWAYS out of tune. That’s torturous for a musician.
Now I’m not trying to diss anyone’s favorite Dead etc, just stating an opinion that people perhaps overdo it with the voice comments. My favorite is when people say “I can’t listen to anything after 77”....ok, we’ll that’s cool as it’s your choice and all, but I’d say really you just have made up your mind you don’t want to like anything after that, and you probably haven’t heard enough and with the right kind of ears. Seriously, I challenge anyone to pick a “perfect” “best of “ show and if I have time I will find the cracks!
But that’s missing the point which is ITS ALL GOOD! and every era has something positive that the others don’t have. It’s all ways been yin yang folks, there is no such thing as a perfect show, except in our minds eye, which is quite A ok.
Ok, rant over, I’m obviously biased about my beloved 85!
Which brings us back to TOOOOOOOGGGGAAAAA!! Yo Butch, back in your seat, there’s 50 thousand people waiting for you to get back in your seat! Madness, the whole scene there was just surreal fucking madness, but in a good way.
I’m actually going to try and call my old house/band mates at the time as we all went. 2 I think went to blossom, and Pittsburgh. That one too, like WTF basically could of stopped by on the ride home from Merriweather, idiots! Lol, actually, I’m not sure I could have done another show. I may have caused permanent damage at Hershey, and thank god for that day off that I can’t recall much about, and I did take it a tad easier after, but not much. We ate so many veggies on that run that nobody would believe it. But I know what I came with and what was left after so.....looking back, it’s all kinda scary, we’re lucky we never had any real casualties of any sort. Few close calls, but nothing major, phewwww.
So going to call the lads, and fire up Toga tonight as We have to do a Zoom wedding this afternoon. We were supposed to be out at the Promised land for said wedding and a actual vacation, first since Seattle in ?? 2012!
Think Homer Simpson “oohhhh, Ssstttooooopid Covid”
Speaking of living via the net, was that not a fine show on Shakedown last night! Didn’t have the fire like the night before, but a fine well played outing, thanks so much to Dave and Co. for giving us this nice diversion. It’s getting to b3 a regular weekly thing, and gasp, the Mrs has actually been joining me and digging it! .....as long as I give her a good foot massage (usually during drums). She really digs the trippy graphics and colors which is even funnier as she’s never partaken except booze back in da day, it’s like giving a kid castor oil just getting her to have a beer, lol. So yeah, this Friday thing has been like the “ONE” in our music! Right on! and please keep em coming!
Ok, gotta try and call the guys and reminisce before the wedding. Then.....drum rolls please..........TOOooooGa!
June 27, 2020 - 10:20am

#6699

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Not a drop on me...

but there are black clouds building on the horizon here. Looks like a thunderous day on the river is in store for me. Got my waterproof device loaded with 6/27/85, thanks to the gentle steering of the GOGD.
June 27, 2020 - 9:47am

#6700

Oroborous

Joined:
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TOGA!

Ran into a rainstorm, indeed!

John Perry Barlow

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

got DQ'd

for the rest of that post, dang it, which went on to say among other things that night before also excellent

(took a dozen tries to write that one pared down sentence above - jeez louise) can't even mention venue

set 2 is fire - grate china rider to open

december 12, '80 (ha, finally got the date in after 20+ tries)

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Branford Marsalis Royal Garden Blues (1986 vinyl)
april 28th 2009 The Dead at IZOD Center with Branford Marsalis, my last live sound experience with ALL of the remaining boys together
april 27th 1969 Labor Temple in Minneapolis (CD), Thank You Mr. Latvala

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Deep Purple Mark I & II (1973 vinyl)
Cannonball Adderley Live in Belgium august 1962 (CD)

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Peace!

Bluecrow

Yeh, the posting here continues to be a huge struggle.

Love those 80 shows. Bring on Oakland.

Can't get the rest of the post in.

12/12/80 again

as PT Barnum mentioned (and like i was also trying to say) this is the first show after John Lennon was killed. it's a beautiful intense show.

DV - I plan to check out the Oakland run.

Was checking out the 6th and 7th from Felt Forum run a couple days ago, as Obeah suggested. In case it wasn't obvious "young grasshopper" = bluecrow in wishing for a release of 12/5.

and I'm with Oro - less rehash, more unreleased shows!!

what a relief to not get beaten over the head with hey now this time around. still, built this up in bits and pieces

Another young grasshopper

I'd love a release of 12/5/71 too!

I also hope some of the off-the-beaten-track stuff from '78 comes out too. The laryngitis shows from January, for example. And if there was a board in the vault for 12/19/78 -- ohhhh, what a gift! The 45th anniversary is coming up for this, the one and only show played in Mississippi. If you've never heard the Stella Blue->NFA from this show, do yourself a favor and give it a listen. The transition is a thing of joyful, triumphant beauty.

Dec. 19, 1978

It's a '78! OK, I'm in today.
Reviews are all good.
Cheers

Wow! Impressive show. That Stella NFA transition is so smooth cool. The Truckin' and TOO were totally on theme, didn't stray much but extended nicely. That whole over an hour 2nd set jam is just tight. If the show doesn't get released that alone would make some good filler for a late '78 DaP.

Dec 19 1978 redux

Yeah 1stShow that is a great point. I'd be thrilled to have that 2nd set portion excerpted/released as filler if that's all that the vault holds.

I've always found '78 fascinating since the Dead's live performances don't follow the conventional narrative often seen when a band is experiencing friction and disunity. For a band that was about to experience a dramatic personnel reshuffle just 2 months later, you wouldn't know it from this night's performance.

And on that note, it's also interesting that the reviews say that the show was sparsely attended... it seems that sometimes a flat or sparse crowd can impact the band, with the lack of crowd energy translating to a decline in the overall performance, but obviously that didn't happen on this night. I'd be really excited to see something else come out of the vault from this tour or even the January '79 run. All the more especially if that Stella->NFA was destined to be disc 3 filler :)

12/19/78

The big question as to release (for this and other late '78 early '79 shows) is whether the master soundboards are even in the vault as there seem to be a lot of gaps in what they have. Set II here only circulates as an audience (a really fine one for sure). This show doesn't show up on the list of returned Betty Boards, either as reels or cassettes.

And for the record - hey now is still alive and well as it DQd most of my original post. I'll get to it eventually.

Phil is sure belting it out on Trucking!

12/19/78 cont.

Awesome show Obeah. Thanks for suggesting it. That Stella is beautiful, with the transition into NFA sort of like they've got a musical "foot" in both and that's saying something. Very cool. And a Casey Jones encore? My goodness! Here's hoping, young grasshopper, this one's in the vault and it sees the light of day!

…and that’s right, you heard correctly…

this week I’m on tour :) it’s 1981, and while this year is curiously under represented with (5) complete shows having been released so far, it’s a “Good Times” to get re-acquainted, and so I’ll be fahkengruven to
Oakland on 12/26, and Stabler Arena @ Lehigh on 9/25, and onto Indy on 12/5, and then off to Long Beach on 8/28, can’t miss a show in Europe so over to Edinburgh on 9/30, and back to the good old US of A in New Jersey @ Rutgers on 5/15 and remember…

…Same Happiness Different Tour!

Peace All!
uncle_tripel

december stuff

I'm really pleased to see so many folks enjoying 12/19/78! It's one of the remarkable things about Grateful Dead history: even those of us who are lifelong fans and who have traded far and wide can still find corners of the vault that we've yet to explore. It's no wonder Dave Lemieux always sounds so excited in his seaside chats; Ali Baba's cave would find itself jealous of the riches hidden within. We can only hope, as Bluecrow observed, that the masters of this show are quietly waiting to be revealed!

Speaking of December... 30 years ago, a Monday, and I was just getting myself together to get back over to the venue: the San Diego Sports Arena. Acoustics are rubbish in that place; a tumbledown barn half full of square hay would be better. Still, I saw shows from January-December in '93, and in a year of mostly sub-par gigs, the San Diego shows were two of the best that I caught. It was always my experience that the Grateful Dead played well in December.

Picks

I love 81, might have to check out some of those shows Uncle T.
There are definitely some great shows Post Egypt 78. I am little biased as we start getting more Shakedown Street songs.

I have 11/1/79 going this morning. What a show and run. Nassau, with a killer Scarlet Fire that appeared as hidden tracks on Dick's 13. Been done before here, but I go back to this run often.

Haven't heard from Jim or OB on this thread in a while. Hope all is well.

Man this is getting old

Sorry DV, my fine message got denied
Been lurkin, but busy and got them H N blues!

Jumbo’s under the weather and been busy, but bet he’s been lurkin..
So everyone wish him well!

Go Vikes!

Would love to post more, but my heads sore from this damn wall I’ve been bangin…

Posting

Hey OB, yes, the posting has been rough. None of my longer posts ever make it through.

Yes, go Vikes! What a squad. 3-0 barnburner last week. Losing Cousins was a killer.

Finishing up 11/1/79 today and then moving on to one of those 81 shows Uncle T mentioned.

Hang in there OB.
Get better Jim! Hope to hear from you soon.

Try, try again

Been hitting a lot of 88 lately including the other 3 Alpines I hadn’t heard, and the fine Frost shows. Also, all the fall tour. Hit a ton of 83 this year, a few nice 93s (nice surprise, just gotta poke around), and a bunch of 73, including that awesome box.
I’ve heard all 73s except 2 or maybe 3 only because of tapes. Same with 83 plus the last 3 of the year that I’m working on. Probably 90+% of 88, say 60-70% of 72, all of 71 except like the first 10?! Most of 74, and a lot of 79, 81, and 82.
Have dug in pretty well with most others except some of the primal years and last couple years…

Looking forward to primary 2024 focus on 84, 74, and some 94, with secondary focus 69, 79, and 89!
Should be another Grateful Year!
The Other One says she can hardly wait! LOL

Enjoyed the 12/19/78, need to check out more late 78, though I like spring so much I get stuck there lol

9/25/81

Qued this one up, and the sound quality is terrible. Charlie Miller's notes, "This recording basically sucks-it starts out bad and gets worse."
Will give 12/26/81 a shot.

You have been busy OB. Do you have any recommendations from your recent tours?

deadvikes

my copy aint that bad.

reeling in the years

Oro I am glad to hear you, too, enjoyed 12/19/78. I stumbled upon that show back in the day while doing my own surveying, in that instance a good deep dive into Stella Blue. There's so many ways to approach this catalog! I liked reading your plans for future listening. Myself, I've been bouncing back and forth lately between Fall '72 (as I've stated elsewhere, it's still such an unexplored country for me, and what fertile soil I've found it to have!) and 1984.

I'm a big fan of '84-'85 and wanted to get myself primed for Dave's Vol 49. However, like Fall '72, Spring '84 was another wasteland in my collection. I had the April show from the Alladin Theater in Vegas and that was it. It's been so much fun getting into those Marin Vets shows from the end of March!

I love hearing what folks are listening to. Y'all give me so many great ideas. I just wrapped up listening to 5/12/77 II...ty to whoever suggested it!

12/9/81

How about Dave's 20 from 12/9/81? It has been a while.

Boulder '81?

I'm in. Seven inch reel to reels, not cassette.
A Jack Straw tests their mettle.
Sounds like fun!
Cheers

Listening methodology

In my quest to attempt to hear em all, I’ve come up with a way to deal with anniversaries and still efficiently chip away at the stone…
I found trying to constantly worry about and have to choose lol, anniversary shows, sometimes gets overwhelming and in the way of progress…so you end up just listening to the same shows over and over…OR,
Also, no offense to the many who roll this way, but I find the This day in GD history approach too predictable and limiting, but that’s just me…

My system is to use the last number of the year for primary focus, and add 5 to it for secondary focus.
So next year will be primary 84, 74, and 94, with 69, 79, and 89 being secondary.
I listed 84 first because I’ve done most of 74 a lot already, but it will be nice to rehash some of the big dogs, like that awesome 5/14 show is due for a spin…
That way I can go deep on years I’m behind on, but still manage to get enough variety in.
So this year I was able to finish the rest of 73, 83, get acquainted with some 93, more acquainted with 78, and serendipitously a lot of 88. Unfortunately I was a lacking in giving 68 more love.

Of course any show can be gone to at any time chever way your pleasure tends.
But using this template has served me well, mostly in not getting a headache trying to choose all the time lol.

Of course there’s also the full tour method: listen to every show on a tour in order without any other dead until completed. More work but greater understanding and fulfillment as I’m sure 1stshow will agree after his big trip to Europe this year!

So, how do y’all roll?

12/9/81

Can’t say when, but like that 78 It’s on my radar for when the time is right…
Now I HAVE to check out that 9/25/81 show lol

Ha, I too checked out/enjoyed that 5/12/77 disc via good ole BC.
I’ve unfortunately never met him, but I can totally see listening to that out on the late night, back roads of the west in my minds eye!

Dec. 9, 1981

A distracted listen so take this comment with a grain of salt. Really good solid show but I can't for the life of me figure out what made this a DaP. There is almost always a set, segment, or even just a 3 minute MLB jam or the like that just shouts that this should be an official release. I did like the setlist and the unusual placement of Good Lovin' at the end but even my favorite thing to listen for, TOO, was a bit underwhelming. The end of 1st set China > Rider and the beginning of 2nd Scarlet > Fire were the highlights for me. The encore Satisfaction was good too!
The distraction was my sis called during my listen and we discussed her 4-24-70 GD show (or was it 4-25-70; see Jerry's Middle Finger discussion of these two shows as there was/is much confusion in the data as to whether there were two shows at Mammoth Gardens or just one) and I was telling her how to hear her show on the Archive. We also talked at length about the Denver Pop Festival of 1969 at Mile High. Look it up. Must have been fun until the end when the riot and teargas forced Jimi (and the original Experience in their last show) off the stage. Frank Zappa invents The Wave too!
Cheers

12-9-81

Maybe as Oro says, right street, wrong house.

I listened to it a few weeks ago and still liked it.
Maybe chosen because of the double whammy of China Rider and Scarlet Fire.
A lot of people were upset when it was released. I wasn’t one of them.

Anyway, doing the MSG Box today, 9-20-82 first, now on 10-11-83.

Methodology/Dave's 20

My methodology for listening is I have no set methodology OB. I tend to go with what I haven't listened to in a while when I am at home or what I feel like listening to. Particularly like to hit the box sets or all the other official released shows that I own. Also like to hit the shows offered up on this site from the fine people here. Love to explore the achrive.
My 2018 car has a hard disc drive that holds 250 CDs and right now it consistents of 90% Dead. I will probably have to keep the car forever as I don't to lose that library.

Dave's 20 is a good show. I like it. Upper echelon show, not sure. I think it was picked because it was a rare reel to reel for the time period and Dick gave Dave a copy back in the day. I will say it has more audience patches than any other Dave's released to date. Still enjoyable. The Scarlet Fire Estimated He's Gone is worth the listen as well as the Other One Stella Blue out of Space. Fun Satisfaction encore. Bob states, "we like it hear, we will be back." They never went back.

back home sit down and patch my bones…

now that was fun, got to say my 1981 tour last week really reinvigorated me, went to some mystic places I hadn’t been before, and heard some great passages that no deadhead should miss. I went on this tour because, after watching you toob [dreams we dreamed] He’s Gone: A Tribute to Brent, it was time to listen more carefully, and yes it was very well spent ‘Good Times’. What initially started as six shows, well, you know how it is when you’re on tour lol, ended in 10 shows…and when you get confused, just listen to Jerry play…I decided on these shows as I had never listened to 9 of them.

Here’s my tour list with archive identifier in case you need some ’81 in your life; great playing, awesome vocals, some far-out space, and some surprising jams that sometimes aren’t listed in the set lists of compendium’s, etc…
12/26 Oakland #84265
9/25 Stabler Arena @ Lehigh #148686
12/5 Indy #111784
8/28 Long Beach #113680
9/30 Edinburgh #151109
5/15 Rutgers #95751
9/26 Buffalo #18110
5/2 Phila #30152 [I attended this one]
5/17 was the only partial show Set 2 of Onondaga #112865
After 9 shows, I just couldn’t pass up listening to 5/16 Barton Hall #30647 (I don’t own 30 Trips box, so this was a 1st listen for me, and what a Shakedown.

All these shows are SDB’s with many having audience patches, that’s always just been a part of that taping hierarchy I guess, so it’s the GD warts and all.

and get back truckin' on, hey now get back truckin' home!
Peace All!
uncle_tripel

Why stop now

Uncle T?

Here’s some other fine 81 shows you should check out if you haven’t.
9/12/81 the whole Greek run is good
12/3/81
12/6/81
12/7/81
3/7/81
3/23&24/81
3/13/81
Stanley shows are good

I’m extremely biased but I’ve always thought 5/17 and 9/26 were release worthy!
5/17 gets overlooked because of SB BS, but there are some hot Auds and this show is almost better via aud!
I was in the 3rd row, JG was trying out the new McIntosh MC2500 amp, and he was screaming loud lol.
He just rips the whole show!
Had a final the next day and my ears were still ringing so bad I couldn’t hear the profs instructions lol

There must be something more than my bias about 9/26 because Dave has played it in various places a lot over the years…

All those December shows are hot and in mho better than DaP 20. 20s good, but I think all the others are better, especially Indianapolis.
I started doing E fall 81 but didn’t finish, need to hit that tour up sometime, think I’ve hit most of the spring one?

ISTSHOW: curious if your sis checked out the archive and what she thought etc?

Edit: checked out the 9/25/81 show and dug it. I didn’t go with the CM dissed version but I want to see how bad it gets when I have more time lol

Enjoying the Love for '81

Been away for a bit. Had the flu for the first time since the 90's, the shot did not work for me this year. Boy am I glad to have that behind me!

Funny 81 and the MSG box get mentioned here. Right before the plague found me, I hit up the MSG box in backwards order, starting with 83 and ending with 81. 3/9/81 is still my favorite in the box. The China Rider, for example, is creative and extremely high energy.. especially that thump at the end as Sampson starts. And what about those aliens at the end of Half-Step in the 83 show? Performance Art to be sure.

Dave's 20? It's ok, enjoyable.. it's light on the x factor though, at least to my years. Glad it came out but I agree with Oro.

One of the first shows I offered up on Pick of the Day was 8/12/81 at the Salt Palace in Salt Lake City. I don't think the entire thing circulates in soundboard, but the parts that do are well recorded for the era. A nice little show. 81 is an interesting year, I can't seem to put my thumb on what it is.. they are a little all over the place but when they shine, they shine. 81 and 82 are the last years where Jerry still had a bit of youthful spirit in his voice. By 83, the gargoyles and gravel gremlins began to set up camp in his voicebox.

An oddity and certainly not a high-water mark for the year is the Cole Field House show in College Park, MD. No Terrapin at the house of the Terrapins that night, somebody forgot to send the memo. Still, an oddity simply because it has to be the loudest, acousticly terrible venue they played at that year and the tapes seem to support this premise. It came a little more than six months before my first show, I wish I was there to hear what the tapes do little justice in recreating.

That's all I have. I feel a post flu nap coming on.

Keep on kepping on guys, great stuff Tripple, Oro and others.

Oro

Sis did go to the archive and listen to her show. No response yet on her review but she gets busy and I don't hear from her much. She did tell me she was right up front crushed into place right in front of Bob Weir. There was a jug of Kool-aid being passed around but since she was already dosed she did not partake. She also got to see The Who and Jethro Tull in 1970 at that short lived venue. And she was at the Sunday show in 1969 of the Denver Pop Festival featuring Hendrix as the headliner. Pretty impressive rock concert resume for a high school kid. Then she moved to S.F., CA to do the hippy thing but says she did not remember going to shows in the couple of years she was there. Can you imagine? 1975-76 in S.F. and you didn't go to any shows? Aw, sis!
Cheers

Jim

Good to see you back Jim. Those flu bugs can be a bitch.

Love that MSG Box. Hope it sells out at some point. I think it is better for us if these sell out rather than sitting around for years.

81 hut hut hut

8/28/81: on a job etc, so didn’t get the best listen, but seemed like a fine show!
Interesting second set!

Yeah DV I’m about ready to give that box a spin, or at least 81 and/or 82 as I hit the 83s recently.
Just need to make it through the rest of the year…hopefully then I’ll have some more GD time.
Yep, you’d think sales might have an impact on what comes out?
Like how we haven’t had an 89 (cept Giants maybe?) since that overpriced JFK measly 2 show box…
Still sitting on those awesome fall 89 (think spring 90 quality) multitracks…

1stshow: Doah, picture palm to forehead: living in the promised land in 72 and no shows?
The HORROR! Say it isn’t so, ; ) LOL she did seem some great stuff though!

Glad Jim’s back from the Dead, or is it back to the Dead ; ) lol

I Had It Wrong

She wasn't in S.F. until '75-'76.
Could have seen the early post-hiatus though if she had the mind to.
Still hasn't answered me on the 1970 archive listen.
Happy solstice tomorrow.
Cheers
Edit: She loved it, she says! Said it brought her right back to standing there right in front of Bob. I'm guessing Bob noticed her as she was a cute (hard to ignore) teenager with long blond hair.

girl in the yellow underwear?

1stshow - it would have been something if Hendrix had dedicated Foxy Lady to your sister ! Meant respectfully, of course. To have seen Hendrix live must have been magical.

Mile High 1969

Fortunately for sis she was nowhere near the stage for the Denver Pop Festival as that's where the teargas was aimed apparently as the riot ensued. But just look at Jimi's setlist for that show (Sunday, June 29). A greatest hits list with Voodoo Chile > Slight Return as the closer. I'm sure I've heard part of that show somewhere and Jimi liked to talk a lot between songs as I recall.
Cheers

Mile High 69

It does look quite wild. Just been reading about it online- apparently it was last show by the original Experience. Looks like the whole set is on youtube, too.

10/3/87 Shoreline

There is a 2023 Miller upgrade of this fine show. First five or six songs are also part of View from the Vault III.

Always liked this late fall run in 87.

Happy Solstice

To all pagans, heathens, druids et al. Notice where sunlight falls today where ever you are. Celebrate at a megalithic site and rock on!

Longer Days

Right on DMCVT. Here's to longer days!

More time to enjoy life and listen to music. Time for a relisten to Here Comes Sunshine.

a good read

if you are interested, here you go

leathersmithe archive sonic journal

last 5
Johnny Cash: Live at Carousel Ballroom 4.28.68 [Bear’s SONIC Journals] (CD)
Art Tatum: Piano Starts Here, Live 1949 at the Shrine Auditorium in LA (CD)
The Ragpicker’s Dream: Mark Knopfler (CD)
Bunny Wailer: LIVE, Recorded in Kingston Jamaica Dec. 25, 1982 (1983 vinyl)
Steel Pulse: True Democracy [wealth maketh many friends, but the poor is separated from the neighbor] (1982 vinyl)

more 1981 is currently on-hold until the holidays have passed; I’m ending this fine year of new music with a re-listen of the HC Sunshine box set, and Mark Knopfler Box 1996-2007

Enjoy the holidays if you please, looking forward to more great music in 2024.
Make Tapes, Not War!

Peace All!
uncle_tripel

quick edit - ORO, forgot 2 thumbs-up for 8/28/81

Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays people!

Hope you all have an enjoyable one.

Last 5

All vintage Christmas vinyl.
From 1956 - 1970s.
From tire stores and hardware stores BITD.
Cheers

Running Lionel trains later!

Random adventures of late

In no order as I can’t remember through the holi daze…

DaP 20
The 83 N ew Years run
12/18/73
12/19/73
6/14/85 2nd

mmmm adventures

I'm with Oro.

Been listening to a lot of shows from New Years Runs with just a touch of the Giants Box lately. 76, 77 and 79 got a lot of love. Somehow caught an annoying bug over Christmas, so that coming off the flu has me too tired to do much of anything useful. Once the daily routine is behind me all I have been doing is lying around, watching sports and listening to music and even that is leaving me wiped out.

Happy New Years all. Give more than you receive and don't let the Hey Nows bring you down.

Happy New Year

Happy New Year all!

Back to the grind tomorrow.

Dave's 49 hopefully by the end of the month.

What will the 2024 box be?
Will the site let me post? I have tried to post about the 2024 box set and it gets blocked every time. Why?
Edit, started RT. 4.3 yesterday from 11/21/73. It has been a while for this one.