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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    It's a Real Goodie!

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    It occurred to me I have never listened to this show before so I'm checking out the matrix on relisten right now. Jack Straw just starting up.

    https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1978/12/30/jack-straw?source=91391

  • The Good Ole G…
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    Happy 4th of July!

    To me the Grateful Dead represent "American Values" that I cherish:
    Independence
    Intelligence
    Innovating
    Pioneering
    Supportive
    Kind

    Helping to Move the entire Human Race Forward a few steps, outside of Mainstream America, with a certain amount of Outlaw bravado in order to provide Joy.

    I won't pontificate on what is actually happening in America right now, but will focus on the Grateful Dead. Because to me they are the American Dream. Some guys from San Francisco that worked real hard at what they wanted to do because nobody else was doing it, and they knew it needed to be done and it was fun and it brought Joy to a whole lot of people who otherwise weren't getting any.

    And now some 55 years later, and more than 25 years since the band stopped playing, they're still bringing joy to people who otherwise aren't getting any.

    That's commendable, I wish there were more instances of that in our history, I can think of none.
    (probably could, but this post is already longer than planned and I hadn't even meant to go here.. I was just gonna say Happy 4th.)

    Anywho... Nice call WTJ on 7/4/81 that's some tight Jams. You had me at Stranger, Bird Song > PITB for Set 2 opener. FYI for the listener, parts of SBD are missing, but some of them there parts are floating around from Taper's Section: Minglewood, China > Rider from Set 1. That being said there's a real nice Audience recording as well.
    EDIT: As Bobby says One More 4th Of July, So Everybody Can Get High!

    DEADVIKES: 7/4/89 you say?
    I'll try and watch that there show at some point this fine holiday.
    You should def check out 5/13/78 some time, dug that as well as 5/14/78 which was killer diller.

    I'ma gonna try and check out 7/4/87 today too and listen to Bob Dylan slur and slash his way through songs he doesn't remember how to play just cuz.. America!

    And yesterday "We" (I?) was checking out 9/21/72 which is a must relisten and if nobody got to it, now is a great time. Epic (like 5 stars) Bird Song, China > Rider, PITB, Dark Star > Morning Dew. That shit is off the proverbial hook.

    Makes for perfect bike riding tunes. Or grilling, drinking, smoking, whatever it is you do while listening.

    But alas, it was buried in a long and drawn out post yesterday, not unlike this one.

    Alrighty then.
    Be Well, Be Safe, Use Your Head, Ignore Alien Orders.

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    That Deal f'ing rips. I was just listening to it yesterday by chance.

    Have a safe and sane Fourth everyone... :-)

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    Good show. Not much Phil in the recording but tight performance with an interesting setlist.

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    Thanks man, I am glad that 5/14/78 hit the spot. And I agree it is a great show. Always like to be surprised by shows and this one did it. ..

    What is on tap for today??

    Hope we can consider 7/4/89 for tomorrow, but just a suggestion.

    Be well all and everybody hang loose.

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    I think I actually got the notion to listen to it from Jim.

    7/6/87 and set II from 7/8/87 were nice for me today. Last night 7/2/71 was real nice.

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    That’s Awesome! Funny the stuff we remember.
    Wonder what happened to that Sister head and if she’s still collecting tapes.

    Good times man, thanks for sharing.

    That closing Truckin’ > Black Peter > Sugar Magnolia is pretty sick, and I bet your a lil less disappointed with it now days.

    Great Show & Great story!

    Sounds like you might have a few more.. 4/6/82 is a fave.. we might have to pull a couple these for a pick. Got any favorites?

    Good stuff :)

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    @GOGD My memory is not great but here goes. I had Blues for Allah and Mars Hotel on record but no tapes. I lived next to a girl in college who had hundreds (literally) of tapes. She was my first introduction to live Dead, not the album. But I wasn't sure what to expect at my first show. There were songs I wanted to see, like China > Rider and FOTM and Crazy Fingers.

    I remember liking the first set, Jack Straw and Candyman were favorites. Believe it or not I was disappointed when they ended with Truckin and Sugar Mag. I didn't know at the time that every show was different and some songs got played way more than others. I thought they were a "normal" band that played some album cuts in concert then ended with their "hits". When I mentioned my disappointment to my friend after the show she just laughed. I think she knew that I was hooked.

    My next show was 9/2/1978 and then 45 others. Not a lot but saw some good ones, including 5/16/81 and 4/6/82 (released)

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    That things here always get busy just as life gets too busy, lol.
    So I’ve been trying to keep up, but haven’t had enough time to properly reply, especially with my Summer 85 “Signing in the rain” ...
    First, thank WTJ not me for that great 88 pick! Though I was at work listening on sub par equipment so didn’t get the full Vulcan mind meld, I did thoroughly enjoy it, and remember it drew me out of my focused work mind several times.
    And yes, you can totally hear them giving Bob shit before Blackbird. And yes, why the hell didn’t they play Believe it or Not and She belongs to me more often!
    Don’t really have time yet, and more importantly I feel I need to relisten to 6/30/85 because in a word, I was disappointed, while 7/1/85 which I only really remember as having that smoking Scarlet/Fire, was actually amazing.
    I always thought 6/30/85 was THE show, meaning the cleanest/tightest, but still with some fire in the nutz, and a sexy set list.
    But upon listening, it seemed like there were many ruff starts, clams, at least, and JG especially. But eventually, the songs would often get right and get going, and did seem to progress overall as the show moved on, somewhat like some of the other shows from this tour, and often like the dead in general. There’s that Bode Miller analogy again.
    Even some of the sexy stuff: Keep on Growing, Cryptical etc, we’re ruff. Personally, I’m ok with that as I would rather see em go for and miss than play it safe and just dial it in.
    So yeah, was a little disappointed but that’s why expectations suck, and why we have to listen eh! I also was exhausted, and kind of bummed and depressed that evening, so that probably affected my mood while listening etc. So need to go back and give this one another run.
    Meanwhile, 7/1/85 blew me away. I’ve never heard the first, and the tape I had of the second was too hot so didn’t sound so good. So it was awesome to sit down and really listen to this show, really enjoyed it. Perhaps the tightest of the tour? Definitely one of JGs better nights of the tour as far as miscues and vocal issues.
    Have to wonder how listening to different formats may have effected perspective? Listened to awesome SB for 6/30, while back to a HS matrix for 7/1. Been digging these HS matrixes for the most part.
    So going to have to replay these 2 and get better handle...
    Really want to try that 5/14/78 30 trips that I don’t think I’ve got round to yet? 78 not a big go to year for me which is precisely why I need to be exposed to more. Seems like the more time I spend with MY lesser years, the more I’m pleasantly enlightened! As I keep beating the drum: ITS ALL GOOD! just have to poke around! Oh, and yeah, that 6/30 Shakedown has to be my favorite @ version...
    And DP 36, right on, haven’t heard that beast in a while, so prolly save that one for when I can be one with it....but love that pick! Thanks guys for all the good picks!
    Ok, gotta go, but hopefully I’ll finish the whole 85 saga later, though of course Big Steve on pre-game and then VV 2, so phew, so much to catch up on, so better get going!
    Schlater!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Yo BC!

Just getting into 2/89 DV. Solid, enjoyable, maybe not RJ though..

Early 79 highlights:
All pretty good, unfortunately many Auds only, but some of those were perhaps better than an SB, and some of the SBs aren’t so hot..
Started out on fire but you can hear slight cracks entering the vibe by the end of some of these shows. Burnout and tension perhaps?
Really liked the MSG shows especially the eighth. Of course the 10th.
I can see why Dave Likes the 15, but not sure I found it best of tour.
But man that sequence from playing onward, phew, hell the whole second is great! Next 2 almost as good, then of course the unusual 20, and 21.
A brief speed bump perhaps but they solider on nicely.
By 2/3 their nicely back in step and Dane, still think if there’s tapes it would fit nicely with the rest of the Danes: Great Dane Box! Sorta status quo for the next few, nice Kansas shows, then a good, but not RJ big finale n the 17.
Good show, but enough moments of mishap that I felt it wasn’t RJ.
Too bad there’s no tapes as I could see a few releases here.
Something from MSG, the 10 with DS filler from the 20th, the 15 off of Dave’s list, Dane, somewhere, and BTK 2/17 - 422 idea!

Ok, I’ll get 2 more 89 this week, unless I get 49…

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friends had a ticket for me but I chose poorly and didn't make the drive from MN. could've heard a Godchaux era Shakedown and an early Iko. no boards of this but there is of set one night before in Indy with that mid set China > Rider. And don't miss that indy Scarlet > Fire! damn i wish Betty was running reels for these. listening to two four set two now. been awhile since i heard indy so its on the list. that Scarlet guitar break is fire

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The understatement of the year.

I think much of the late generation shows suffer in comparison to the shows that were properly recorded. True, vocals and harmonies has declined but the band played on.

They are playing 7 7 78 today on Sirius XM as I write this. Boy that Peggy-O was something. What a great run to see as your first show(s)

I let a tiny fart out in the Dave's Picks 49 thread. Music posts don't seem to go through but the test one I made later did. Unfortunately I used up all my patience trying to get the good one through.

is so very freaking fantastic. a couple weeks ago i revisited omaha 7-5 a k a the waterfall show and it was mind blown - what a screamer

one of my first boots was the superb front of board Wagner audience for that first Red Rocks show Set I and Set II through Scarlet transition. pretty much every song in that first set along with that Cold Rain BIODTL and Scarlet is a favorite version. burned in my brain. its all exactly perfect.

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didn't make the drive. I can empathize with you! as I DID THE SAME THING for englishtown (only 35 mile drive);
my fatal error, major gaffe, momentary lapse of reason, bonehead move, dumbest thing to do; AND yes that decision all these years later still makes me want to laugh out loud & cry all at the same time, so everyone please KICK ME AGAIN!!!

peace all!
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Needed a change of pace after listening to the fantastic 4/27/85.

6/23/74, Dave's #34. Love this one. Hope you can join me.

Oh and bring on that 2024 box announcement from .......74

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So I might just as well since I'm waiting on 49. I think I'll start with the bonus disc.
Cheers

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Deadvikes - I'd willingly join you, but I played the 1st cd of 5/17/74 this morning, so I'm a bit out of synch. Incredible time for the Dead - amen to a 1974 box.

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I was thinking February 74 after first amazing listen to 49!
But 6/23 will work. Then, intermission, then 49 again, then perhaps Greensboro 89 where I left off, then later next week digest February 74 for a few days?

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DeadVikes good call. Have to say i probably listen to the bonus disc to this and the 6/16 &18 Roadtrips a lot... Hope you guys are all doing well!!

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so Deadvikes I just pulled out my copy of 6/23/74 at your suggestion. I have criminally underplayed this one. I call myself a '74 fan too so idk what my trip has been but anyway I grab the liner notes and unfold that thing and read the story of the photos and then I see the credit... to Forensicdoceleven ?!?! ?!

edit: I know this has surely been discussed already. I seem to have poor luck using the search function on this site, but let me see if I can find old posts, i don't mean to hijack this thread. I just felt a strong need to say "wait a minute!"

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Holy shit Bob t! Good to hear from you. It has been a long time. Hope all is well.

Obeah, yes, the Doc was involved with getting Dave the photos, I will let him give you the story. I have no idea how to search comments on this site either. I listened to this a lot when it first came out but haven't listened to it in a while.

I was able to get a full uninterrupted listen in today. My god, so good. One of those shows, where nothing is rushed. Sound quality might be the best 74 material I have heard with the exception of the Grateful Dead MST.
One of my favorite versions of To Lay Me Down. Jerry's guitar work is so moving. Great WRS. Love the Jam out of Seastones and then you get the rest of the second set! What is not to like. That Dark Star Jam, Spanish Jam into a phenomenal US Blues, that takes it's time. UJB, OMSN, Casey Jones to close it out. What a great show!

Dig those PNE shows Daverock and the February shows OB.
Would love some more.

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Only made it through the bonus disc as I had anticipated. Life got in the way yesterday. The Playin' went some interesting places I didn't expect. Seems the TOOs and Playin' were the interchangeable space jams in the middle from 72-74. Superb smooth China > Rider. Is there a less than great 1974 show?

IIRC Doc had issues getting his photos back. A trouper to give that gift to us all. Thanks Doc!

Cheers

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3/30/89
3/31/89
3/30/94: wow! Neat show! Sometimes…

3/28/89 best of year so far…

Friday: much of 6/23/74
1.3 back there somewhere?

And 49 sprinkled throughout!

Feb 74 on deck…
ONWARD!

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Will put this on tomorrow OB. It looks like it is a Pearson Healy Miller. I was at the shows at the Mecca in WI and the old Met Center in Bloomington MN in April of that year. My senior year in HS. What a year! Oh shit that means 35th HS reunion this year.

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Been in the hospital for a week with pneumonia, wife with metastatic cancer, life, it seems, has dealt us a harsh hand...............

In regard to Miami. Yes, I supplied the photos, the story is from the deep Dead past, now merely a footnote on a footnote and not so important. I had a chance to make a very minor contribution to the community, so I took it and dealt with the fallout. Bad feelings yes, long since discharged, let's focus on the music.........

It was, after all, the kind of magic that only the Dead could conjure. Very fine and very interersting, consumate quirky gooey good old Grateful Dead. Apart from Providence (my second show), my favorite 1974 outing...........

Rock on,

Doc

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For Doc & the Mrs.
You're the best.

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Doc, I'm sorry to hear your news,I hope things will get better for you and your wife.

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So sorry you and your wife are going through this hard time.
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Sorry to hear that no good news. Best wishes and best of luck to you and your wife.

Well let me just take this opportunity to say 'thanks for the photos', and meantime, I'm so sorry to hear that your health is going through a rough spot, and your wife's situation sounds even more serious. Much sympathy.

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Doc, sorry to hear about the health issues with you and your wife.
I hope it gets better for the two of you.

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Sorry to hear that no good news. Best wishes and best of luck to you and your wife.

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Sending best wishes your way Doc. There's not much we can do or say but we are thinking of you both in the best of all possible ways.

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Thinking of you and yours, Doc. Heartfelt wishes that your connection to the medical community results in the best possible care in Jville. Though we have never met, special discovering you were an unknown neighbor eons ago here in the land of big green, that we happened to be at Lewiston and maybe Boston shows. Thanks for your devotion and contributions to these boards.

Doc, six years ago my wife was diagnosed with cancer and I rode in a similar horribly difficult sidecar.

Hope for some gentle days ahead for you and yours, and sending healing vibes your way.

"that path is for your steps alone"

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been sidelined a bit too and just read about this, so sorry to hear of you and your wife's medical woes. Hopefully the VA can help with this and that the bill won't be out of this world. I hope for the very best for both of you. Keep on Keeping on my Florida bro. Get well soon.

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So sorry to hear bout you and the misses Doc.
Effin cancer cancer cancer, Marsha Marsha Marsha, man it seems to be all we hear these daze. In stead of pissing billions away on space pipe dreams, and tax breaks for uber corporations, how bout we cure cancer and clean up our home we’ve turned into a cesspool!

Be well, and may the music heal!
Our thoughts are with you!

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Even though most of us have never met "ForensicDocEleven" in person, your good spirit shines through on these pages year in and year out. Words fail me, but, right now, I'm adding whatever energy I can in hopes you and Mrs. Doc get through this smooth and soon. Onward brother.

Good show OB. Thank you for the recommendation. Great mix. LTGTR, Franklins, Stranger! Nice start. Stagger Lee. Memphis Blues. Really good flow to the first set.
Good second set Playing, Foolish Heart. Always enjoy a Box of Rain encore.

Decided to revisit Ladies and Gentlemen this afternoon. Wow! Bob Matthews and Betty did a great job with these recordings. Is it too late to go back and give us all these Fillmore East shows in a box?

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Vguy recommended 3/28 as a POTD awhile ago.
I rehit it for enjoyment and comparison etc

Hit the first six of 84 since, with some 6/24/85 and some of February 74 too.

Thinking 2/27/69 for Doc! Big medicine!

Going to continue with 84 and 89, perhaps try another 94.
I’ll let you know if anything moves me…

Go Niners!

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I'm down for some 2 27 69 Big Medicine.

I haven't gotten to 3 28 89 yet but I did hit Miami 74. That Cumberland snuck up on me, great picking and then there are the other highlights that shined just as bright this week and I remembered. The recording might have shot up a notch too.

Big Medicine, which reminds me I go under the knife for my shoulder Friday. My ills do not compare but I will take the Big Medicine offer from the kind people here. Believe it if you need it, right.

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Okay OB. If I only had those 69 shows.

Anyway, decided to go with 6/14/76 from the Beacon Theatre. The June 76 Box still shines.

Enjoy your Superbowl Sunday out there.

Hope your surgery goes well Jim.

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I have to hit those 76 shows again.

Funny.. those post haitus releases shook me out of my 68 through 74 comfort zone, there was a period when I just couldn't get enough 80's (and 90's, toss in some 79 for good measure). High octane GD. I hit the Giants box pretty hard but spent some time in 85 (of course), Spring 90 and several shows in 89. I just couldn't get enough.

But hitting Dave's 49 through several listens was a nice aperitif and More 74 broke the spell. They played the WRS>Row Jimmy from DaP 13 on my drive home last night. Icing on the cake.

Grateful Dead, good for what ails (ales) you.

Thanks so much for keeping the spirit going. I'm mostly keeping up.

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What's the story with Jerry's F... SUNY t-shirt from the photo in the liner notes? I remember seeing it before but couldn't seem to bring up a story. GD played there going back to 1970? Sounds like some discontent there.
Cheers

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Ha, as a proud alumnus of the “fine” institution lol, seems like something a student would come up with? Perhaps it’s as simple as JG thought it was funny, or a student offered it up as a joke? But now of course you went and did it lol, so now we have another mystery for Inspector Lose O!
Damn you fist show! ; )
DV, anything, just ask…
JIM, hope that doc isn’t stingy with the propofol, hear that shommer shit is very
Owey. We will of course be thinking good thoughts, any last, er a, I mean any requests for while your elsewhere? ; )

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For tomorrow?
Laissez les bons temps rouler!
Actually on a Fat Tuesday in '86.
For my friend "Swamp" who would always skip class for a week to go back home to N.O. for Mardi Gras.
Cheers
Edit: Is there an official release of this?

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On your surgery Jim.
Hope all goes well brother!

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I'm still off work on disability from Legionnaire's Disease, so I'll do 2/11/86 tomorrow.
Don't think there's been an official release, but there's a cassette soundboard patch on the archive.
Uploaded by Jonathan Auizen.

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Hoping for a successful surgery and quick recovery.

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Rollin!

Went with the HS matrix?

If ya dig 86 I highly recommend 3/24/86…

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What a pleasant surprise! Lively show with a killer start, great set list, and in an unusual order. Was Jerry in one of his "clean" phases? Can't get more authentic on the Iko-Iko than with the Nevilles! And the drums segments (plural) were a treat. It's clear the band was having a great time. What a difference that can make.
Cheers

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Added so much to the second set. Those extra guitar riffs during the second NFA > Hey Bo Diddley > GDTRFB really complemented the boys' playing so well. Let the good times roll!
Cheers

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Fun enjoyable show!
HS matrix was good.
I’d call it good, but not RJ: fun, good energy, but a tad sloppy in spots.
JG struggles occasionally I.e., Might as Well. But that isn’t a problem for me…
Think this was first year doing the MG drum thing?
If yer into that, I know I liked the tape I had from 89 of it…
Nice to do something completely different.

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Dane County Coliseum
I'm rolling this one today if anyone else wants to?
This was one of the first tapes I acquired back when I first started going to shows on a regular basis.
There's a good matrix on the archive.
Peace

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But that show MUST be released!
Finished hitting all of 73 last year and I think the first six shows of the year would make a killer box, better than HCS!
Or,
A Great Dane Box, all the remaining Dane shows including the 2 73 reels…
Enjoy, that is a awesome show, RJ for sure!

EDIT: it’s on Dave’s list too, so…

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Happy anniversary Dark Star blip....... Also anyone see Two Towers Documentary on Fall 73 Tours??