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    Anyone who has ever seen the Dead can testify that one of its shows will add quite a bit of color to the environment here at Stanford. Anyone who has not seen one of these spectacles should have the opportunity to do so. The Grateful Dead are an important part of the Bay Area's cultural history. Those of us who saw them last week can testify that the Dead are alive and well. The Concert Network would be hard-pressed to find an act which would bring Frost Amphitheatre to life as the Dead would. - The Stanford Daily

    As you know by now, we'd certainly have voted aye on this motion, so much so, that we've loaded up DAVE'S PICKS 49 with not one, but two complete Grateful Dead shows from the Frost Amphitheatre, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA 4/27/85 and 4/28/85. The first shows from '85 in the series, these back-to-back hometown performances couldn't be more different while delivering the same level of passion and precision, five hours of it, in fact.

    In 1985, the band were celebrating "20 Years So Far," a feat that found them on these particular nights confident with invention in terms of both setlists and playing. There are old songs renewed, rare covers revived, undeniably nuanced Jerry moments, and a few surprises from Brent Mydland too. While it's impossible to select highlights, we can say with certainty that the overall clarity of these shows is unparalleled, courtesy of Dan Healy's recordings.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 49: FROST AMPHITHEATRE, STANFORD U, PALO ALTO, CA 4/27/85 & 4/28/85 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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    Seems there’s no accountability anymore, anywhere, but when you basically kill someone you should have to pay, HARD!
    This truly pisses me off, and I didn’t even know your Bro.
    What I don’t understand is how there’s not some safeguard or other opinion or some kind of advocate specifically for such situations?

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    It would be one thing if they did the right thing and something went wrong etc, but to basically kill another human being because of what? Greed?
    I’m all about moving on and not getting hung up on past shit that you can’t change, but this motherf@##$& needs to feel real pain!

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    My goodness, that’s a horrible story and can’t imagine what your going through!
    I’ll I can recommend is keep busy, long walks, and lots of Dead…if you get confused just listen to the music play.
    Eventually, time may not fully heal, but like all the heavy shit you’ve been through in life, this will pass.

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    Tried to respond but this ridiculous nonsense won’t let me post!

  • Doingtheneedful
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    Thank you!

    Thanks vguy and Dave! Your words mean a lot. Kevin was indeed special. Incredible social conscience and extremely intelligent. Never once raised his voice and was always measured and deliberate when he needed to be, and fun and surprising when he felt like it. The fact that we were solid and firm friends since the early 90’s speaks volumes. I tend to piss off most folk within weeks! lol. I’m not nasty at all, but I somehow seem to be a bit obvious when suffering fools… Precious little poppet that I am.

    My wife grew up with Kevin in Carshalton when they were kids. They even dated for a while a long time before I appeared on the scene. In one of life’s funny little co-inky dinks, we probably passed each other all the time when I was living in Putney as a young teen. Turns out we even used the same video store!

    It just destroys me that the coroner concluded he would almost certainly be with us today had he been admitted and given intravenous antibiotics. It’s one thing to be a hoity insecure pillock, but when a life is lost, and it’s not a “mistake”, then surely there’s something that needs to happen there. It won’t bring him back and I won’t claim sheer altruism in the “just so it doesn’t ever happen to anyone else” vein. No. I want the SOB to pay the price out of sheer anger and venom. I wish I could be a bigger person about it. I’m just not there yet. Nor do I expect to be any time soon. Sorry, but a line was crossed when it comes to my ability to forgive.

    For what it’s worth, I genuinely feel good about how my wife and I have picked up his widow and given her the safe space and sanctuary she needs. And she’ll have it forever. We’re even giving the spare bedroom in the place we’re moving to a name… “Julie’s Room”. She’s such a good and kind person. Just like Kevin. It makes us feel a little better that we can at the very least give her our unqualified support and affection and always have a place for her to feel safe in. And, she’s using it, so that in itself shows that it’s needed and that it’s a good thing for her.

    Anyway. Thanks again. Sincerely. It needs to be shared so I can lessen the empty anger that the finality of it all brings.

    I’ve been dwelling on the nature of “void” and the fact that I’m terrified of it - and no, the argument that I won’t be around to miss it just makes it worse. Even typing this is making my chest tighten, breathing laboured, and skin feel like it’s slow burning - anxiety to the max. How do you rationalise the unacceptable? All I can take from it is that if I feel this bad about losing life, I must really love it, and I’m trying oh so hard to use that as my “FU” to the reaper…

    Still. One of the terrible compromises that we’re all born with. “I’m going to give you something so magical, that when I take it away, and I WILL take it away, you’ll have never existe”. Jesus. Sorry, but now I’m having a full blown panic attack. Any ideas anyone? I don’t even drink anymore nearly two and half years sober, and thank god because if this wasn’t an excuse to bury myself in a bottle, then I don’t know what would be. So, if I qualify that question to “Any holistic ideas anyone?” Then maybe that’s better.

    One thing I can say with utmost confidence. The music of the good old Grateful Dead certainly helps. One thing I was really apprehensive about with sobriety and “being straight” was how it might alter my relationship with and enjoyment of the music. Turns out, not a jot! If anything it’s better than ever. My playing is improved and I can add thought to my guitar playing that allows for more “play” and less “see what sticks”. I guess the analogy would be the painter who knows how to use texture and layers as opposed to your Jackson Pollocks who luzz stuff everywhere and see what happens. They both produce interesting results and there is nothing to stop the chucking it about but, but having that extra layer in the arsenal gives you more toys to play with.

    How I got here from there I don’t know. But let’s end on a positive… Anyone considering changes around chemical self medication… I will assure you that YOU will still be YOU on the other side. You might do things a little differently, or require yourself to get “there” a different way, but don’t worry about losing yourself. I think it’s a bit of a common thing that folks can worry about when they’ve become dependant on certain addictive behaviours. That loss of one’s self. I’m here as living proof that you’ll still be there on the other side and what’s more, it’ll be earned and more valued, and dare I say, it’s not inappropriate to feel a little smug about it.

    Right. I’m much happier for having let all that out so thanks again all! It’s really, really appreciated.

    Now back to “how do I get my undelivered copy of DP48?” Again, any pointers would be brilliant. I’ve no doubt it was sent, but I’ve lost a few packages in the last six months or so… Never been a problem until recently, and ties up with when Evri started doing the “last to the door” legs. They recently (last week) put a watch in a “safe place”. Well. They threw it in the recycling wheelie bin actually. But hey, could have been a bush, right?

    :-)

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    Great to see you back on here - I wondered what had happened, and am sorry I didn't reach out earlier. You have absolutely no need to apologise at all - it sounds as though you have been to hell and back since we last communicated. Terrible what happened to your mate Kevin. He sounds as though he was a great person to have known and hung out with. What a tragic thing to happen to him. My heart felt condolences to you and his wife.

    Yup- I am still interested in the 1978 Daves Picks on vinyl - I'll send you my address by email - if not now - I am due out in a minute - but later today.
    As you guessed, I have got Dicks Picks 2 on vinyl - but thanks for thinking of me.
    My eyes lit up when I saw Ozric Tentacles in your post - but dimmed again when you talked of Phish. I have never heard them really - I'm not quite sure, but the very idea puts me off. Very unfair -I'm sure they'll survive ! Ozric Tentacles on the other hand - I've seen many great gigs by them over the years. Incidentally - they also sound great on vinyl.
    All the best - cheers - Dave

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    #49 Scarlet...

    This Scarlet... is absolutely top tier. Jerry is taking off and gets 'lost in the ozone'. I think.
    Wunderschön!
    G.

  • Vguy72
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    Neil Young & Crazy Horse....

    ....announced their Spring Tour.
    Guess I need to gas up and set my sights for Phoenix.
    Edit. Khruangbin is playing here.
    Nevermind.

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    Rant away doingtheneedful....

    ....doesn't sound like a very good way to go imo. So sorry your friend went through that. Having a life saving surgery delayed twice in a year is unacceptable. Sigh.
    Just remember this. Surround yourselves with kind people.
    Turn away from the people that spew hate and vitriol.
    And drink plenty of water.
    Comicons are awesome. So many cool nerds. And I mean that as a compliment.
    Phish's Ocelot and Scents And Subtle Sounds are, imo, their most "Dead" like songs. I get the lyrical nonsense point though. Until Gamehendge comes around lol.
    I'm still on my Mavis Staples thang.

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    Daves 48 ALARM! Help from GD CS if possible please?

    Hi. If anyone on the CS side sees this (or if anyone else can point me in the right direction). With 49 arriving on Friday, I literally just realised that 48 hasn't ever turned up. I was looking at the library to double check my naming conventions etc. for ripping, and nada. No 48, no bear on a skateboard. I revisited my physical stash where everything goes immediately after digitising, again nothing. No JPG cover art in my cover art folder. I checked the tracklist again and I guarantee I haven't listened to this release. It occurred to me that I'd just let it be in the knowledge that sometimes they can take a little longer to get here, but I've obviously put it "out of sight, out of mind" too far! It will be the first actual non receipt I've ever had from dead.Net since I first used them in the beginning. I had one cross over where a package was shipped gain and arrived the same day as the very delayed original. Something always turns up in the end. Not this time though.

    I've had some pretty heavy stuff going on back in the real word. No sympathy required, but lost my best friend out of nowhere and way too early and suddenly. Sadly avoidable too if not for the ego and pride of a duty consultant at a south London A&E who failed to recognise sepsis in an otherwise very healthy man my age who was due Gall Bladder removal very soon and who had a recent history of Gallstones and Pancreatitis issues.

    He was being admitted for emergency surgery, but the surgical team were overridden literally on the way to prep by this fool consultant whilst my friend, Kevin, was in the lift being taken to a holding high dependency ward, and sent home with Morphine to wait for the surgery due date ten day later... After being delayed twice by almost a year.

    The Consultant got shirty after being challenged by Kevin's wife who is about 4 foot nothing and very unassuming and quiet, as to why he has overriding what everyone else was calling serious. His response was to say, and I quote "It's not that complicated. I'm in charge and the Surgical Team would admit everyone if they had the chance."

    Genius. Bloody fool. Kevin survived five or so more days in agony at home before suffering a fatal heart attack induced by critical sepsis and organ failure due to multiple internal abscesses and blockages caused by Gallstones.

    What hurt so badly was that at his funeral, there was a huge turnout, and in every other slide projected during the celebration part, my wife and I were with kevin and his wife, doing something stupid and fun. My favourite being myself carrying him across a flooded road in the New Forest like Friar Tuck. He and his wife carrying the hand carved and decorated hiking sticks I made for them back in 1995 or so.

    So, that happened... Sorry to unload, but I still find myself having anger splurges... That and other things like moving and job loss (mutual divorce), I can see why I was distracted on this one. So basically, DP 48 isn't here and I'd like to sort it out if possible please?

    One of the last conversations I had with Kevin, it came up that he'd picked up Terrapin Station. He knew I was a dead head and he had "dabbled"... He was massively into his music. That's why he stayed in Wimbledon when he could have moved out of the city. Right there next to the tube station with easy and ready access to gigs. He averaged at least a show of some type or other a week for the entire time I knew him, and it was pretty normal for him to do 10 on the trot, brief pause, Glastonbury, a few world cinema festivals, more gigs. And a happy marriage. A CD collection the size of small house and a Vinyl stash to rival. I remember myself and a few other fellas meeting up to see Phish at Shepherds Bush then crashing on his living room floor, utterly spent, stoned, drunk and happy. He was like that. Phish? never heard of them! Let's go check it out! I recall the main man of Ozric Tentacles being there and checking it out to his approval. I'm not sure he was into the music so much as appreciative of the musicianship.

    I'm a bit like that with Phish. I can dig the sounds and the cleverness and craft, but lyrically they're a mess in my limited opinion. Billy Breathes is pretty spot on, but outside of that album, there' a lot of nonsense waltzing as wit. Guilty of playing "clever" because they can, not because it sounds great, sometimes.

    Anyway, Terrapin. It was coming back from ComiCon London and he mentioned that he liked the idea of a whole album side being one long suite, and really enjoyed it. I of course immediately jumped in and tried to sell him on "Everything Dead Ever" realised that was a disservice (baby steps) and steered him towards the Terrapin suite on the many disc'ed "tribute" from a few years ago that The National were heavily involved with. It's a great recording. played as live in studio I think (certainly the side of that session seems to point that way), the entire suite with percussion as originally intended (I imagine, based on the whole production overdub that Olsen (it was Olsen wasn't it? laid down causing Mickey to go mental...).

    It's a very airy performance. Open space, cavernous, but warm and familial. One of the better and more realised Grateful Dead covers, made great by the "as live" recording and mic placing. I really do need to get that set. It's readily available streaming and it's a bit of a monster. Not everything hits, but there's enough good grist to warrant hard copy in the collection in my opinion.

    Let's face it. if "Ready or Not" can get a place in your home, then this certainly can. Sorry, but firmly in the camp of "Ready or Not" is "Not". In fact I can't listen to it, and when I try, I just can't fathom how the Samba in the Rain on it wasn't thrown in a river in a burlap sack full of rocks.

    I went to an Aston Martin owners' club meet when I was a kid, and we parked up next to a DB6 which looked like an unloved overworked tractor. My dad said it was a joke by a cheeky someone who wanted to demonstrate everything NOT to do with a classic car. That's how I feel about that Samba'. It's almost like it's on the record as a cautionary tale. "Are you sure you want this foks? Cos' this is what you've got coming if you start playing in those particular weeds!" "Grateful Dead. The Poison Ivy Years" or perhaps more obscure a reference, "The grateful Dead. Warts...."

    Be good y'all. Thanks for giving me the space to stream my addled thoughts.

    And oh yeah. DP 48... Can you help me out here please? Thank you in advance!

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Anyone who has ever seen the Dead can testify that one of its shows will add quite a bit of color to the environment here at Stanford. Anyone who has not seen one of these spectacles should have the opportunity to do so. The Grateful Dead are an important part of the Bay Area's cultural history. Those of us who saw them last week can testify that the Dead are alive and well. The Concert Network would be hard-pressed to find an act which would bring Frost Amphitheatre to life as the Dead would. - The Stanford Daily

As you know by now, we'd certainly have voted aye on this motion, so much so, that we've loaded up DAVE'S PICKS 49 with not one, but two complete Grateful Dead shows from the Frost Amphitheatre, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA 4/27/85 and 4/28/85. The first shows from '85 in the series, these back-to-back hometown performances couldn't be more different while delivering the same level of passion and precision, five hours of it, in fact.

In 1985, the band were celebrating "20 Years So Far," a feat that found them on these particular nights confident with invention in terms of both setlists and playing. There are old songs renewed, rare covers revived, undeniably nuanced Jerry moments, and a few surprises from Brent Mydland too. While it's impossible to select highlights, we can say with certainty that the overall clarity of these shows is unparalleled, courtesy of Dan Healy's recordings.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 49: FROST AMPHITHEATRE, STANFORD U, PALO ALTO, CA 4/27/85 & 4/28/85 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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Another Valentines Day gem.

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So bad what happened to your friend Kevin. There has to be some just, legal, and effective response -- Do what you can.

As for your DaP48 (that's the small problem), have you checked your Dave’s Picks order status at the Grateful Dead Store (store dot dead dot net)? (Scroll to bottom of page and click Order Status; helps to have your order number.) Or did you receive a shipping-notice email from Grateful Dead Store? If so, it would have? given you a tracking number (which, in the U.S., could be a UPS number or a USPS number, or maybe another carrier’s, but in the UK, I don't know, nor know whether you'd receive a tracking number). Have you been able to track the shipment? (I, myself, got shipping emails for Dave’s Picks 47 and 49, but don’t find one for Volume 48.)

With or without tracking info, at the Grateful Dead Store, scroll again to page bottom and click Help/Customer Service. At the upper right of that page, click “Submit a request” and go from there. If you get an email response from that which seems automated and says anything like “unable to provide a personalized response to your specific inquiry” and offers you a list of FAQs, and if none of the FAQs pertains, send a reply that that’s unacceptable, and ask that your request be escalated to a level that will actually respond to your problem.

Finally figured out the confusion about Cap Centre. I knew something was wrong until I dug deeper into DeadBase. When I went to Cap Centre 1987 shows, I saw Fever, but I thought they did Fever all the time. Turns out that was only time they played Fever. So I mixed up seeing Stir It Up and Fever as both were one offs.

Whew - felt insane in the membrane.

And yeah, Super Bowl Sunday looked incredible OTA.

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60 years worth yaddy yaddy yadda, and at least a couple of decades…..
Yeah, but we’ll be dead by then? Andale, andale, vamanos amigos!

Confusion: ha, I knew you were going to say that lol.
I looked it up after I posted, just in case lol, (hey, we’re all getting older ; ) and I saw Fever at Landover and figured that’s what you ment, I should have posted it lol.

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anyone find where to download the latest present.

Rhapsody in Red: Garcia Essentials (A Valentine’s Day Playlist)

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Nightfall of diamonds on vinyl for RSD and JGB electric on the eel 6-10-1989

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Gonna suck your wallet dry.

#49 is getting close. I paid the customs man €11,56 yesterday. Should be delivered within a week.

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....my Dicks One vinyl shipped. Mrs. Vguy is keeping a close on my record spending. Someone has to!

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I've been quietly rooting for you from the sidelines. I'm glad to hear they're working to get a copy of Vol 49 to you.

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Why do I keep reading stuff where Branford Marsalis says the Dead are set to drop a 21-disc box set full of performances with guest artists, presumably including him? Is that for real?

I think Branford played with the Dead five times, and of course one of the best ones (3/9/90) is already released. So there's maybe 6 discs max of BM w/GOGD to work with, right? So who would be on the 15 or so discs, if this is for real?

Be nice to get ALL the Duane Allman stuff out. Santana would probably get a lot of people interested. There's some stuff with Cecil Taylor and Ornette Coleman. David Murray. So there's plenty to work with, even if it's hard to imagine how they would get to 21 discs.

Then again maybe it's all just a rumor.

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P-Funk: Mothership Connection
Charles Mingus: Bues & Roots
King Crimson: Live in Japan
Mahavishnu: Birds on Fire
Maceo Parker: Planet Groove

Yew betcher azz ah em not a robut. Fool!

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I've only found it as a streaming playlist at jambands

Crow, the 91 30 Trips show also included Brandford and it is a great 91 show.

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Perhaps take a moment today and think good thoughts about the nicest guy here at DN who’s getting his shoulders (hopefully) fixed today.
Good Luck JF, hope the gas passer ain’t stingy with that propofol!

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A 1969 Mountains Of The Moon from Chicago this morning over the airwaves, when Jerry was in great voice, not run raspy from Persian White or cigarettes. Sounded a bit like some English folk song with terrific guitar work.
Dennis Alert: a new Bruce Hornsby album due in 2 weeks, this one with a small chamber orchestra. Intriguing.
Phish live album due shortly too. DaveRock, I know you mentioned you never quite got into them, and they were always on my periphery too, until about a year ago. There was a lot of positive comments about them here, and VGuy served as my Phishing Guide, pointed me out where I could catch the great releases. In short, I cannot believe I didn’t catch on to them sooner, but only two ears, I guess.
Oro , my Leafs are headed your way soon - Clash of the Titans, Amigo!

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Oh boy, playing my other team soon also!
Wish the Leafs would get a run going, though, perhaps too soon?
AVs have seemed a bit flat lately. Sabs…sigh, oh well, maybe next year lol
Yes like the Dead folks, in hockey, and evidently football, it’s all about peaking!

Doooode, finally read Orr after TOO gave it to me ten years ago.
What a book, and what a guy! Sure I remember some from BITD but being a kid etc, didn’t really know much. And Geddy Lees bio My Effin Life: one of the best I’ve ever read and I read a lot of R&R bios! Man you Canadian boys are all such well spoken writers.

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Oro - Some of them are goodly writers!
I pulled up to a traffic light one time, and a green Rolls beside me caught my attention. Yea, green. The driver was Geddy Lee, so I tried to get his attention to give him a thumbs up or something, but he had his Asshole Protectors on, so my efforts were in vain. :(

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Never been a huge Rush fan, only because not a big hard rock fan, but don’t dislike them, had a few albums BITD and saw a great concert in 80?
But man much respect, what a story, well done and learned much.
Surprised by how much GD MO they adapted over the years.
I’d imagine he’s a around town kind of guy when the situation allows.
That must have been fun!

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Oro, I’m the same - not a Rush fan. But I looked over, and the driver was undeniably him, so I couldn’t resist trying to get his attention, but he likely had Dave’s Picks going full volume in the Rolls, couldn’t hear me.
A story making the rounds that McCartney’s stolen Höfner bass (he played on the first two Beatles albums) was recently recovered, missing since 1972, valued at $13Million dollars! The same article explains that a Gibson acoustic guitar Kurt Cobain played on MTV Unplugged sold for $6 million. I wonder what Jerry’s guitars would be worth. How about other valuable instruments from the rock and roll world. Hendrix’s Woodstock guitar? Dylan’s electric guitar from Newport ‘65?

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The lost and found bass is confirmed on McCartney's site. Took five tries to begin to post, Hey Now. When Rush played in my home area, Geddy would come in day of show to a store where my brother worked because they had an excellent selection of red Burgundy, Geddy was a fan. They would pull out the back shelf cherries for him.

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Phish still a great band, but hard to beat that1990's Phish.

On the tube, look up Phish Farm Aid 1998. Nice Birds of a Feather, and then a raging Moma Dance. Then they move into the back-up band for Neil Young. So young and so vibrant. They can still jam and rage, its their vocals that suffer some, as with all with age. Why Rush had to tune down for Ged. Different Stages Hammersmith Odeon 1978. Sweet.

Fortunate to catch 2 Phish and 3 WsP shows last year in a 2 week period. Slept a bit after that. Had tix to 3 nashville shows but do to health had to sell to a friend.

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Had a hot date with some cold beer for the 14th. Listened to Road Trips 2vol2 - Be My Valentine. So much fun.

Hard to believe 3 Dark Stars on one release, when you got the bonus disk. I am sure I ordered here, but was not expecting the bonus disk, dont even know if they mentioned it at that time.

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Are scooters now MotorCycles?

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....down Palace.
Ponied up for a new one. Audio-Technica AT-LP120XUSB-BK Direct-Drive Turntable.
Will be here tomorrow. $200. I used my Amazon points.
You can take the record purchaser away from the 80's, but you can't take the 80's away from the record purchaser. Or something like that.

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Looked that one up. Can do it all.
Excellent choice. Enjoy!
Cheers

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Good one Vguy, I have the non-Bluetooth model, didn’t have any use for BT.

Follow the setup directions for balance and anti-skate and it will work great.
If you want to further upgrade the sound in the future get the VM540ML/H headshell/cartridge combo. Sounds spectacular.
Going to spin my new copy of DaP2 vinyl tonight on the system.

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I like the Binford 7,000,000XYX OU812!
Bastard cleans the discs while playing them!
Platter literally weights 300 pounds, driven by military grade motor housed in another room for lowest possible noise floor!
Laser cartridge accurate to within one billionth of a cm.
Arm utilizes custom Iridium composite, and separate phone stage requires it’s own rack and power supply, all synced by atomic clock! Boo yah!

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with my ca. 1978 Technics with a scavenged roofing nail lashed to the tone arm.

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Really a '70s Philips GA-212, the one with the cool green lights under the touch buttons. Gone through maybe 10-12 cartridges and styli over all those years. Favorite is the Grado Black.
Cheers

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Did anyone else realize that U.S. Blues and She Belongs To Me are actually the encore but are included earlier on the first disc? I just did some research and this appears to be the case (I thought they sounded out of order) but nowhere that I saw on the release was this disclosed. I don't mind if they rearrange the order of songs to make things fit, but why can't they tell us on the CD case? DId I miss it? Am I right they are in fact the encore? Can someone validate? Strangely enought on Archive they are also out of order on the recording? Please advise!

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U.S. Blues & She Belongs to Me were the encores.

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45 years ago tonight, I was up in Oakland to see the Grateful Dead deliver a knockout of a show. Anybody else there ? This should definitely be a release or part of a 79 box set.. What a show!

Dave mentions in the chat that the song order had to be rearranged to make things fit.
I didn’t check if it was also stated on the release.

It was a characteristic of earlier cd releases that when songs were included from various shows, it wasn't always clear which song was from which show. Quite a few actually - Dicks Picks 31 comes to mind shows from 8/4 - 5/74 and 8/6/74 - there is no indication in the cd booklet which song comes from which show. You either get Deadbase down and work it out for yourself, or just forget about it and enjoy it as it is presented. It works either way. The immortal Dicks Picks 4 of the 2/13 and 2/14/70 shows doesn't tell you in the booklet where the songs included come from.

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So, I'm only slightly puzzled -- it is still February (what's so short about this freakin' month?) -- at the lack of uninformed speculation on this year's box. As a master of uninformed speculation, allow me to lunge from the high board (it's only three feet down) to do a cannonball...

Got Hey Now'd on a lengthy post, so breakin' it down!

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Recent boxes

2023 - Summer '73
2022 - MSG, '81-'83
2021 - '71-'73
2020 - '76
2019 - '87-'91

I heard that rumor swirling from one mention that Branford may have rumbled about a 17-disc set of guest appearances, which sounds intriguing and sets off the thought: do they really have 17+ hours of guest spots? And could the indefatigable Dave & Co. really round up the needed permissions and royalty sharing? As your completely ignorant correspondent, I'd have to ... not count that out. But seems likely it would have to include, say, a half dozen Mtn Jams.

Otherwise, we know Rhino's sweet spot (according to Dave himself) is somewhere in that 15-20 disc zone.

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Perhaps this is my opportunity to bang my drum for fall '72. A ton of great shows remain unreleased. Dave in his inimitable non-comital manner once said that such a box "has to happen someday..." Why not this year?

Over on my tom-tom, I note the surfacing of several '68 tapes, the generally unreleased August '68 show bundled with that cartoon book (arrgghh!) and a few stray '66-'68 shows still stuck in the Vault (going on pure instinct here). BUT I'm thinking not enough discs for the Rhino threshold, thus this greasy pipedream will remain so until they do a limited edition of the early stuff.

Got Hay Naw'd too many times to finish. As you were.

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I think a box with guests, would be post 1991.. Branford, Coleman and a few others, but NOT 2/70 with the brothers. I would also be a nice way to give us an Vince-years box - perhaps the only one we will see.. BW from rainy Copenhagen..

I'd like to see a Primal box come out this year. One that starts when Mickey joined in Fall 1967, and cuts off about May 1969, before the "Workingman's" songs and they started doing things like "Green Green Grass of Home". Just raw power.

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Hi guys - I've been trying to get a replacement disc 3 for DP48 since November. Every time I try and escalate it or chase I just get told a new tickets been raised and then an email asking me how I rate customer services. The fault on Disc 3 is that it takes 10-20 seconds to start and then won't allow individual tracks to be selected - so if I want to skip a track it won't. Happens on more than 1 CD player.

Anyone got an idea of how I can get this moving forward ?

PS -- I laughed my head off at the speed of GDTRFB on vol 49 :) What were they on?

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Daverock - not to be cynical, but I am! I just wonder whether Rhino sees enough sales potential for the primal box we so richly deserve. For you and me and others here, if I may presume, we don't care how they pkg it as long as they deliver the primal material. Sooner than later, in time for my present incarnation. Not literally, but while I'm still on fire for the band. These "later" years have me evolving, morphing, changing (choose your verb) in ways that I hadn't anticipated earlier in life.

That said, I get the feeling that Dave & Co. (or just Dave) wants to hold back tapes from all eras to give artificial longevity to the release program. Whereas I ("we"?) think that 66-68 isn't going to get more popular with time.

Dave & Co! Hear my plea!

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....they have a strict policy regarding phones. Which I can appreciate.
Looking forward to the light/stage show which I also appreciate.
And, for the first time, I'm bringing earplugs to a concert. Just in case.
Peeps say they are louder than most. And my left ear rings already as it is.
Looking forward to Jambi.
Incredible tune.

A nod to the artwork Tool features on their album covers, really trippy stuff, much of it by Alex Grey, who would have found a welcome home among the greats of Haight, such as Rick Griffin, Stanley Mouse, Alton Kelley, et al.
Enjoy the show VGuy.

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