Dave's Picks Vol. 49: Frost Amphitheatre, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA (4/27/85 & 4/28/85)

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Anyone who has ever seen the Dead can testify that one of its shows will add quite a bit of color to the environment here at Stanford. Anyone who has not seen one of these spectacles should have the opportunity to do so. The Grateful Dead are an important part of the Bay Area's cultural history. Those of us who saw them last week can testify that the Dead are alive and well. The Concert Network would be hard-pressed to find an act which would bring Frost Amphitheatre to life as the Dead would. - The Stanford Daily

As you know by now, we'd certainly have voted aye on this motion, so much so, that we've loaded up DAVE'S PICKS 49 with not one, but two complete Grateful Dead shows from the Frost Amphitheatre, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA 4/27/85 and 4/28/85. The first shows from '85 in the series, these back-to-back hometown performances couldn't be more different while delivering the same level of passion and precision, five hours of it, in fact.

In 1985, the band were celebrating "20 Years So Far," a feat that found them on these particular nights confident with invention in terms of both setlists and playing. There are old songs renewed, rare covers revived, undeniably nuanced Jerry moments, and a few surprises from Brent Mydland too. While it's impossible to select highlights, we can say with certainty that the overall clarity of these shows is unparalleled, courtesy of Dan Healy's recordings.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 49: FROST AMPHITHEATRE, STANFORD U, PALO ALTO, CA 4/27/85 & 4/28/85 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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February 14, 2024 - 8:23am

#681

Oroborous

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Seems there’s no accountability anymore, anywhere, but when you basically kill someone you should have to pay, HARD!
This truly pisses me off, and I didn’t even know your Bro.
What I don’t understand is how there’s not some safeguard or other opinion or some kind of advocate specifically for such situations?
February 14, 2024 - 8:22am

#682

Oroborous

Joined:
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It would be one thing if they did the right thing and something went wrong etc, but to basically kill another human being because of what? Greed?
I’m all about moving on and not getting hung up on past shit that you can’t change, but this motherf@##$& needs to feel real pain!
February 14, 2024 - 8:21am

#683

Oroborous

Joined:
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My goodness, that’s a horrible story and can’t imagine what your going through!
I’ll I can recommend is keep busy, long walks, and lots of Dead…if you get confused just listen to the music play.
Eventually, time may not fully heal, but like all the heavy shit you’ve been through in life, this will pass.
February 14, 2024 - 8:20am

#684

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Needful

Tried to respond but this ridiculous nonsense won’t let me post!
February 14, 2024 - 5:24am

#685

Doingtheneedful

Joined:
June 11, 2007

Thank you!

Thanks vguy and Dave! Your words mean a lot. Kevin was indeed special. Incredible social conscience and extremely intelligent. Never once raised his voice and was always measured and deliberate when he needed to be, and fun and surprising when he felt like it. The fact that we were solid and firm friends since the early 90’s speaks volumes. I tend to piss off most folk within weeks! lol. I’m not nasty at all, but I somehow seem to be a bit obvious when suffering fools… Precious little poppet that I am.

My wife grew up with Kevin in Carshalton when they were kids. They even dated for a while a long time before I appeared on the scene. In one of life’s funny little co-inky dinks, we probably passed each other all the time when I was living in Putney as a young teen. Turns out we even used the same video store!

It just destroys me that the coroner concluded he would almost certainly be with us today had he been admitted and given intravenous antibiotics. It’s one thing to be a hoity insecure pillock, but when a life is lost, and it’s not a “mistake”, then surely there’s something that needs to happen there. It won’t bring him back and I won’t claim sheer altruism in the “just so it doesn’t ever happen to anyone else” vein. No. I want the SOB to pay the price out of sheer anger and venom. I wish I could be a bigger person about it. I’m just not there yet. Nor do I expect to be any time soon. Sorry, but a line was crossed when it comes to my ability to forgive.

For what it’s worth, I genuinely feel good about how my wife and I have picked up his widow and given her the safe space and sanctuary she needs. And she’ll have it forever. We’re even giving the spare bedroom in the place we’re moving to a name… “Julie’s Room”. She’s such a good and kind person. Just like Kevin. It makes us feel a little better that we can at the very least give her our unqualified support and affection and always have a place for her to feel safe in. And, she’s using it, so that in itself shows that it’s needed and that it’s a good thing for her.

Anyway. Thanks again. Sincerely. It needs to be shared so I can lessen the empty anger that the finality of it all brings.

I’ve been dwelling on the nature of “void” and the fact that I’m terrified of it - and no, the argument that I won’t be around to miss it just makes it worse. Even typing this is making my chest tighten, breathing laboured, and skin feel like it’s slow burning - anxiety to the max. How do you rationalise the unacceptable? All I can take from it is that if I feel this bad about losing life, I must really love it, and I’m trying oh so hard to use that as my “FU” to the reaper…

Still. One of the terrible compromises that we’re all born with. “I’m going to give you something so magical, that when I take it away, and I WILL take it away, you’ll have never existe”. Jesus. Sorry, but now I’m having a full blown panic attack. Any ideas anyone? I don’t even drink anymore nearly two and half years sober, and thank god because if this wasn’t an excuse to bury myself in a bottle, then I don’t know what would be. So, if I qualify that question to “Any holistic ideas anyone?” Then maybe that’s better.

One thing I can say with utmost confidence. The music of the good old Grateful Dead certainly helps. One thing I was really apprehensive about with sobriety and “being straight” was how it might alter my relationship with and enjoyment of the music. Turns out, not a jot! If anything it’s better than ever. My playing is improved and I can add thought to my guitar playing that allows for more “play” and less “see what sticks”. I guess the analogy would be the painter who knows how to use texture and layers as opposed to your Jackson Pollocks who luzz stuff everywhere and see what happens. They both produce interesting results and there is nothing to stop the chucking it about but, but having that extra layer in the arsenal gives you more toys to play with.

How I got here from there I don’t know. But let’s end on a positive… Anyone considering changes around chemical self medication… I will assure you that YOU will still be YOU on the other side. You might do things a little differently, or require yourself to get “there” a different way, but don’t worry about losing yourself. I think it’s a bit of a common thing that folks can worry about when they’ve become dependant on certain addictive behaviours. That loss of one’s self. I’m here as living proof that you’ll still be there on the other side and what’s more, it’ll be earned and more valued, and dare I say, it’s not inappropriate to feel a little smug about it.

Right. I’m much happier for having let all that out so thanks again all! It’s really, really appreciated.

Now back to “how do I get my undelivered copy of DP48?” Again, any pointers would be brilliant. I’ve no doubt it was sent, but I’ve lost a few packages in the last six months or so… Never been a problem until recently, and ties up with when Evri started doing the “last to the door” legs. They recently (last week) put a watch in a “safe place”. Well. They threw it in the recycling wheelie bin actually. But hey, could have been a bush, right?

:-)
February 14, 2024 - 2:59am

#686

daverock

Joined:
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Doingtheneedful

Great to see you back on here - I wondered what had happened, and am sorry I didn't reach out earlier. You have absolutely no need to apologise at all - it sounds as though you have been to hell and back since we last communicated. Terrible what happened to your mate Kevin. He sounds as though he was a great person to have known and hung out with. What a tragic thing to happen to him. My heart felt condolences to you and his wife.

Yup- I am still interested in the 1978 Daves Picks on vinyl - I'll send you my address by email - if not now - I am due out in a minute - but later today.
As you guessed, I have got Dicks Picks 2 on vinyl - but thanks for thinking of me.
My eyes lit up when I saw Ozric Tentacles in your post - but dimmed again when you talked of Phish. I have never heard them really - I'm not quite sure, but the very idea puts me off. Very unfair -I'm sure they'll survive ! Ozric Tentacles on the other hand - I've seen many great gigs by them over the years. Incidentally - they also sound great on vinyl.
All the best - cheers - Dave
February 14, 2024 - 2:32am

#687

gratefulgerd

Joined:
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#49 Scarlet...

This Scarlet... is absolutely top tier. Jerry is taking off and gets 'lost in the ozone'. I think.
Wunderschön!
G.
February 13, 2024 - 8:52pm

#688

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

Neil Young & Crazy Horse....

....announced their Spring Tour.
Guess I need to gas up and set my sights for Phoenix.
Edit. Khruangbin is playing here.
Nevermind.
February 13, 2024 - 7:52pm

#689

Vguy72

Joined:
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Rant away doingtheneedful....

....doesn't sound like a very good way to go imo. So sorry your friend went through that. Having a life saving surgery delayed twice in a year is unacceptable. Sigh.
Just remember this. Surround yourselves with kind people.
Turn away from the people that spew hate and vitriol.
And drink plenty of water.
Comicons are awesome. So many cool nerds. And I mean that as a compliment.
Phish's Ocelot and Scents And Subtle Sounds are, imo, their most "Dead" like songs. I get the lyrical nonsense point though. Until Gamehendge comes around lol.
I'm still on my Mavis Staples thang.
February 13, 2024 - 7:22pm

#690

Doingtheneedful

Joined:
June 11, 2007

Daves 48 ALARM! Help from GD CS if possible please?

Hi. If anyone on the CS side sees this (or if anyone else can point me in the right direction). With 49 arriving on Friday, I literally just realised that 48 hasn't ever turned up. I was looking at the library to double check my naming conventions etc. for ripping, and nada. No 48, no bear on a skateboard. I revisited my physical stash where everything goes immediately after digitising, again nothing. No JPG cover art in my cover art folder. I checked the tracklist again and I guarantee I haven't listened to this release. It occurred to me that I'd just let it be in the knowledge that sometimes they can take a little longer to get here, but I've obviously put it "out of sight, out of mind" too far! It will be the first actual non receipt I've ever had from dead.Net since I first used them in the beginning. I had one cross over where a package was shipped gain and arrived the same day as the very delayed original. Something always turns up in the end. Not this time though.

I've had some pretty heavy stuff going on back in the real word. No sympathy required, but lost my best friend out of nowhere and way too early and suddenly. Sadly avoidable too if not for the ego and pride of a duty consultant at a south London A&E who failed to recognise sepsis in an otherwise very healthy man my age who was due Gall Bladder removal very soon and who had a recent history of Gallstones and Pancreatitis issues.

He was being admitted for emergency surgery, but the surgical team were overridden literally on the way to prep by this fool consultant whilst my friend, Kevin, was in the lift being taken to a holding high dependency ward, and sent home with Morphine to wait for the surgery due date ten day later... After being delayed twice by almost a year.

The Consultant got shirty after being challenged by Kevin's wife who is about 4 foot nothing and very unassuming and quiet, as to why he has overriding what everyone else was calling serious. His response was to say, and I quote "It's not that complicated. I'm in charge and the Surgical Team would admit everyone if they had the chance."

Genius. Bloody fool. Kevin survived five or so more days in agony at home before suffering a fatal heart attack induced by critical sepsis and organ failure due to multiple internal abscesses and blockages caused by Gallstones.

What hurt so badly was that at his funeral, there was a huge turnout, and in every other slide projected during the celebration part, my wife and I were with kevin and his wife, doing something stupid and fun. My favourite being myself carrying him across a flooded road in the New Forest like Friar Tuck. He and his wife carrying the hand carved and decorated hiking sticks I made for them back in 1995 or so.

So, that happened... Sorry to unload, but I still find myself having anger splurges... That and other things like moving and job loss (mutual divorce), I can see why I was distracted on this one. So basically, DP 48 isn't here and I'd like to sort it out if possible please?

One of the last conversations I had with Kevin, it came up that he'd picked up Terrapin Station. He knew I was a dead head and he had "dabbled"... He was massively into his music. That's why he stayed in Wimbledon when he could have moved out of the city. Right there next to the tube station with easy and ready access to gigs. He averaged at least a show of some type or other a week for the entire time I knew him, and it was pretty normal for him to do 10 on the trot, brief pause, Glastonbury, a few world cinema festivals, more gigs. And a happy marriage. A CD collection the size of small house and a Vinyl stash to rival. I remember myself and a few other fellas meeting up to see Phish at Shepherds Bush then crashing on his living room floor, utterly spent, stoned, drunk and happy. He was like that. Phish? never heard of them! Let's go check it out! I recall the main man of Ozric Tentacles being there and checking it out to his approval. I'm not sure he was into the music so much as appreciative of the musicianship.

I'm a bit like that with Phish. I can dig the sounds and the cleverness and craft, but lyrically they're a mess in my limited opinion. Billy Breathes is pretty spot on, but outside of that album, there' a lot of nonsense waltzing as wit. Guilty of playing "clever" because they can, not because it sounds great, sometimes.

Anyway, Terrapin. It was coming back from ComiCon London and he mentioned that he liked the idea of a whole album side being one long suite, and really enjoyed it. I of course immediately jumped in and tried to sell him on "Everything Dead Ever" realised that was a disservice (baby steps) and steered him towards the Terrapin suite on the many disc'ed "tribute" from a few years ago that The National were heavily involved with. It's a great recording. played as live in studio I think (certainly the side of that session seems to point that way), the entire suite with percussion as originally intended (I imagine, based on the whole production overdub that Olsen (it was Olsen wasn't it? laid down causing Mickey to go mental...).

It's a very airy performance. Open space, cavernous, but warm and familial. One of the better and more realised Grateful Dead covers, made great by the "as live" recording and mic placing. I really do need to get that set. It's readily available streaming and it's a bit of a monster. Not everything hits, but there's enough good grist to warrant hard copy in the collection in my opinion.

Let's face it. if "Ready or Not" can get a place in your home, then this certainly can. Sorry, but firmly in the camp of "Ready or Not" is "Not". In fact I can't listen to it, and when I try, I just can't fathom how the Samba in the Rain on it wasn't thrown in a river in a burlap sack full of rocks.

I went to an Aston Martin owners' club meet when I was a kid, and we parked up next to a DB6 which looked like an unloved overworked tractor. My dad said it was a joke by a cheeky someone who wanted to demonstrate everything NOT to do with a classic car. That's how I feel about that Samba'. It's almost like it's on the record as a cautionary tale. "Are you sure you want this foks? Cos' this is what you've got coming if you start playing in those particular weeds!" "Grateful Dead. The Poison Ivy Years" or perhaps more obscure a reference, "The grateful Dead. Warts...."

Be good y'all. Thanks for giving me the space to stream my addled thoughts.

And oh yeah. DP 48... Can you help me out here please? Thank you in advance!

John Perry Barlow

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Anyone who has ever seen the Dead can testify that one of its shows will add quite a bit of color to the environment here at Stanford. Anyone who has not seen one of these spectacles should have the opportunity to do so. The Grateful Dead are an important part of the Bay Area's cultural history. Those of us who saw them last week can testify that the Dead are alive and well. The Concert Network would be hard-pressed to find an act which would bring Frost Amphitheatre to life as the Dead would. - The Stanford Daily

As you know by now, we'd certainly have voted aye on this motion, so much so, that we've loaded up DAVE'S PICKS 49 with not one, but two complete Grateful Dead shows from the Frost Amphitheatre, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA 4/27/85 and 4/28/85. The first shows from '85 in the series, these back-to-back hometown performances couldn't be more different while delivering the same level of passion and precision, five hours of it, in fact.

In 1985, the band were celebrating "20 Years So Far," a feat that found them on these particular nights confident with invention in terms of both setlists and playing. There are old songs renewed, rare covers revived, undeniably nuanced Jerry moments, and a few surprises from Brent Mydland too. While it's impossible to select highlights, we can say with certainty that the overall clarity of these shows is unparalleled, courtesy of Dan Healy's recordings.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 49: FROST AMPHITHEATRE, STANFORD U, PALO ALTO, CA 4/27/85 & 4/28/85 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

Hey Mikey

Pretty good game eh.
Except for the outcome ; )
Ok, now I can say GO LEAFs again lol
They had a sustained intensity ive perhaps not seen from them before, a good sign? Hopefully they’ll peak at the right time!
Oh, really dig the black and blue unis

Interview with Betty

Very unusual format, but very very interesting answers. The mime in charge asks informed questions. Most interesting thing to me was the revelation what happened with the Dead/Hendrix jam that didn't happen at the Avalon Ballroom in October 1968, but says they DID play together at the Ark at another point. Now that is completely new information as far as I've ever heard. Look for Mime Talk with Special Guest Betty Cantor-Jackson on youtubes. Her descriptions of Cassady "driving" the bus from the middle of the aisle put another spin on his legendary driving skills.

Funny, because my previous video watch was of John Entwistle at the Musician's Institute in LA around 1990-91, where he gave very open and honest answers on The Who and other musicians, like falling asleep at Clapton concerts, regretting not forming Led Zeppelin, but also how Hendrix offered him the bass spot in his band, and they jammed when Hendrix first arrived and that he noted Hendrix would go see all the famous British guitarists and borrow bits of their technique and tricks and stagecraft, etc and very quickly rolled it all together into the Hendrix that exploded onto the scene.

Re: Hey Now doth sucketh!

It's a real Shakespearean tragedy.

There's an IT clown car on the loose at death net. More than half my posts never go through and by the time I get them to post I am frustrated and the initial benevolence rarely comes through.

Enougheth is enougheth already.

Miscellaneous

No posting due to the friend of the devil, Hey Now

Follow up

Oro, great game, 2 elite teams, fast, lively crowd. I hope we meet in the playoffs. Vegas here Tuesday, another great game.
icecrmcnkd, I was on Pearl Jam site for tour info, saw they recently had a Flyer theme night in Philly. A big DRW fan is Michigan boy Dave Kloc, artist on some DaP releases.
Trey coming here in May, but SRO at the venue, which is kinda tough for a whole show. A game time decision, as they say.

~2025~Wish List?

Maybe its too early to speculate but I've got a X~mass list anyways, up for debate here. ~1stQtr.; Double Set 1982 Frost 10/9 & 10/10, ~2ndQtr.; Fox Theater, Atlanta, GA 12/17/78 ~With 2nd set filler from 12/22/78 Dallas, TX {Bonus Disc 2nd set filler 11/24/78 Passaic, NJ} ~3rdQtr.; Jersey City, NJ 8/4/76, 4thQtr.; I can't decide between 1972 & 1988. Springfield, MA 10/2/72 ~or~ BuckEye Lake, OH 6/25/88?
Can't wait for the surprise of #51 & #52 and eagerly awaiting the Paladium!

RYXS...

...how NICE would your 1982 WISH be if it shows-up as #52! personally, BALMOR 1982-04-19 is my WISH, let's see what TPTB decide because '82 is OVERDUE; yeah, and I know they HEAR us.

uncle_tripel

mime

Talk...THNX for the tip...will look-it-up

uncle_tripel

2/15/73 Anyone?

Now THAT was a show. Amazing duet from Phil and Jerry during Dark Star, wonderful Eyes. One of the GOAT TLEOs. How is it THAT one has been overlooked by Dick and Dave alike?

Tryin' the short post thing, since EVERYTHING ELSE I've tried to do gets Hey Now'd.

Tedeschi/Trucks Tour

Schedule is out. I'm in for 6/5 at the Santa Barbara Bowl with Little Feat.

TTB Deuces Wild Tour

Colorado dates in July for Grand Junction and two at Red Rocks. Hmm...
Cheers

TTB....

....no Vegas, but San Diego is on a Saturday!
Happy Anniversary to Dave's 29. San Bernardino 1977. Spin it today!

TTB Tix

I will be trying to tickets to at least one of the Red Rocks shows and at least one of the Berkeleys. Fingers crossed for better seats than I got last time.

Over and out.

Crow's Call

Good call Crow! I agree fully there are some hidden gems of 1973 left to release. I should check out the one you mention in particular(thks 4 the tip!). Dark Stars in 1973 very heavenly indeed. I do tend to break up the year in three chunks, with Weather Report Suite as the defining separation. So there's them fall shows post Dave's #38, and then the "Glen" & all the May and June stuff. Preceded by shows early in the year with a vibe of Dick's #28. Dick's (in name only after #14) released more late 1973 gigs and Dave's done more of the spring shows but not to any one extreme. Personally I have a penchant for the mid year May & June shows, {HCS 2023 box & pNw 2018 box} and a 1973 release will probably have a slot in 2025 or 2026 by my estimates. Still awaiting a Watkins Glen! ****Est. Prophesies*** #51~Primal Pig, #52~Post Brent, #53~1982, #54~1978, #55~1976, #56~1973? I've got cases for autumn 1972, & any 1988 as well.

73

The first six shows of the year, including 2/15, would make an as good as, if not better, box than HCS, with 2/9 being the weak show, for point of reference.
Don’t believe me, go listen!

Latvala’s opinion on ‘73

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TTB... my voice of discord

I first saw Derek Trucks in the Allman Brothers Band. I thought Warren Haynes was special, but Derek was phenomenal, still making a name for himself. An early master of slide guitar.

I'm not trying to piss on anyone's parade here, just offering that, to my ears, the fire in Derek is rarely turned up past 5 or 6 in TTB songs... all the edges are rounded off.

It's real, organic music played by good people and in a good spirit. Unfortunately, it bores the shit out of me.

I got all excited for their take on the Layla album which they played live. It sucked.

Later

TTB... my voice of discord

I first saw Derek Trucks in the Allman Brothers Band. I thought Warren Haynes was special, but Derek was phenomenal, still making a name for himself. An early master of slide guitar.

I'm not trying to piss on anyone's parade here, just offering that, to my ears, the fire in Derek is rarely turned up past 5 or 6 in TTB songs... all the edges are rounded off.

It's real, organic music played by good people and in a good spirit. Unfortunately, it bores the shit out of me.

I got all excited for their take on the Layla album which they played live. It sucked.

Later

2/26

Voice of discord....

....so discordy, Ledded posted it twice!
Lol. Just kidding.
At least Derek didn't fall too hard into the Joel/Brinkley category w/ Tedeschi. Ha!

TTB and Derek Trucks

Great band. Amazing live, tons of soul. It made me think of a great buddy of mine wishing they would turn him loose more.

Posting because of the 1st time I saw Derek Trucks was with Zero at the Maritime Hall. 01/31/98. I loved that period of Zero. He sat in for the entire show and its a wonderful listen. A guest sit in that does no detract from the band and gets plenty of time to shine. Awesome show.

TTB

I have never enjoyed Derek Trucks playing as much as I think I ought to. I love slide guitar playing, but I also find his approach a bit lacking in power. I saw them in London about 6 years ago, and was a bit disappointed. Around the same time I saw the North Mississippi Allstars, and they did have more of a groove on the night I saw them.

The big exceptions are the "I Am The Moon" cds. A friend burned them for me, and those I do like. I'm not a big fan of Susan Tedeshci's voice, to be honest.

2/27/69. Fillmore West

What a show! The Dark Star that all other Dark Stars are judged against. The whole show is a complete knockout!

TTB

I like their effort to revive that Delaney & Bonnie + Friends thing and the sound of the band with all those back-up singers and horns. And I'm amazed at Derek's touch and skill watching his hands on video close ups. But (here it comes) when he does that zipping up or down the fretboard thing it has an annoying sound like amplified acoustic guitar when your fingers squeak while moving your hand. Not quite as bad as nails on a chalkboard but then he gets to repeating it and I get turned off to him. Other than that I wouldn't mind seeing them. I don't mind her voice at all. She and Mike Mattison sound great together.
Cheers

@ Billy The Kiddd

You are 100% on point in regards to 2/27/69, it's my favorite show from 1969. Primal Dead INDEED!!!

ICECRMCNKD...

...thnx for sharing; me with a big SMILE after reading point #7, having had a sales career of over 30 yrs & a miniscule understanding of MARKETING to be dangerous; but as we ALL know, it's the customer RELATIONSHIP which is of the most IMPORTANCE and VALUE

uncle_tripel

taste

It's a curious thing what music we like and what we don't. Derek Trucks is technically superb, but for some unquantifiable reason I don't really get it. I like a simpler more groove based approach when it comes to slide guitar, I would say. If anyone has improved on Elmore James, I haven't yet heard them. And although THAT riff sounds simple, and looks it on paper, I've never heard anyone nail it like he did.

TTB/DTB

I first saw Derek in 1994 in the local concert hall. He came out as a special guest with the ABB. He was 15 I think. Interesting thing about this ABB concert was when we were walking out I said to friends, that was more like a Dickey Betts Band concert. Just a few years later he was out. Remember seeing the ABB on their tour in 2000. If I have this right, Dickey was out mid-tour. By the time I saw that tour Jimmy Herring was in Betts position. I am a huge fan of Mr. Betts but also know there were struggling dynamics within the band.

Slide Rule

With slide guitar discussion, wondering where folks would put a few others. Fair to say acoustic slide and electric slide are considerably a light year apart. Bonnie is sneaky good, Billy G too, Sonny Landreth incredible ...first guy that really blew me away was Ry Cooder... his work on Memo From Turner. Crank that one up and tell me not. He's almost the only reason to listen to Jamming with Edward.

My Favorite

David Lindley.
Just exactly perfect.
Sonny can make sounds on a guitar like no one else.
Cheers

David Lindley

I must agree, a fantastic player, slide and all other styles!
Saw him live in Neu Isenburg (El Rayo-X) on March 21st, 1983.
It was his 39th birthday.
Great guy, great musician.
May I say underrated?
Cheers,
G.
(got nice photos)

Different strokes...

I'll just chime in with my two cents about Derek and Susan. Their TTB is, hands down, the top live band in the world -- for me. And have been for 4-5 years. I'd put Susan second only to Bonnie Raitt and Mavis Staples (yep, two at No. 1!) -- she's got soul, vocal chops, great song selection and writing and she can burn on a Strat like few others.

Derek I have seen now for perhaps 20 years. His slide playing is, for me, the very best in the electric arena on this planet. He doesn't sing, per se, but his slide playing is akin to Coltrane, Pharaoh Sanders as well as Duane Allman, who I rank with Jimi Hendrix in their respective bags. Very few in that circle except Jerry, Roy B, and, of course, the three Kings (BB, Freddie, Albert) and those mentions are perhaps only appropriate to a GD forum, because then there's also Lonnie Johnson, Django Reinhart, Charlie Christian, Charlie Byrd, Les Paul -- them's deep waters! Whoever you include, you exclude someone worthy. Which is why I typically resist or qualify my remarks.

So I'm definitely not taking any position with anyone else's take on Derek and Susan, but I find his soaring beyond melodic lines to be transcendant and an unparalleled inspriration as a band leader (to his band). Susan brings it all back home with sensationally emotive singing and the rest of the band is a powerhouse.

So glad to be securing tics to their two-nighter this summer at Red Rocks (along with Joe Russo in June), which makes this my 50th year at the Rocks. Started in 1974, missed only a handful of years when I lived too far away to make it, and I'm still alive, still rockin', still going to select shows AND, in the immortal words of Maxwell Smart, Agent 86, "And... loving it!"

Sliders

Love the burgers and the guitarist.

Love The ones mentioned. If you haven't seen Clapton's Crossroad benefits, Sonny Landreth does some smoking material. Doyle Bramhall II also has some major playing.

And if memory serves, Trucks and Bramhall were part of Clapton's touring band about 8 years ago. Will have to research a little bit.

But I am tired and fussy.

And who can forget SRV - Lookin out at the weather - I see, Cant stand the weather

JR Pasquale - Thanks for the…

JR Pasquale - Thanks for the 1/31/98, Zero/Derek Trucks tip!

Crawling out of the woodwork....

... to say how much I'm enjoying this release. Both shows are excellent and have excellent sound quality. Phil is loud in the mix and his playing is phenomenal. My Brother Esau played loud is pure joy. There is a funny moment at the very beginning of Disc 4 as they are trying to start Bucket. I am thankful for a great 85 release. I pulled out 11/1/85, 6/24/85 and the DVD So Far.... So Good! Looking forward to more 85 in the future as I have always been partial to this year. I'm also looking forward to #50.... and beyond. Thanks Dave L & Co.
I'm not a robot!

Favorite slide players

Jerry Garcia, Elmore James, Son House, Mike Bloomfield, Muddy Waters, and on and on.

KPFA GRATEFUL DEAD MARATHON. 3/2/24

KPFA 94.1 FM. will be airing the annual Grateful Dead Marathon this Saturday from 9am pst. to 12am pst. 15 full hours of live tapes and in studio guests. David Gans & Tim Lynch put on a great show. On the radio at 94.1 FM, streaming on nugs.net, gdradio.net, and kpfa.org.

Sorry That Mike....

....Golden Knights losing streak broken.
Thanks to this release from '85, I've been playing every show on relisten from those Frost shows on at work. Background mostly, but listening.
Some good stuff there. Most of the first tapes I got back in the day were from 1984-1985 so still somewhat familiar. They were brand spanking new back then.
Made it to 1986 and now at the Hampton shows in March.
Bobby, "Now you'll see what happens when we practice". Then the Box Of Rain bustout. I totally forgot about that. Literal goosebumps. Awesome.
My first show is coming up. Probably Thursday.
Edit. Looks like the TTB are doing the "swamp family" fan club pre-sale thing regarding ticket sales. Pearl Jam does that. Whatever works I guess, because the Vegas shows are pretty much sold out.
Should be a good time, because hanging out with thousands of people that love what I love gets me off.
Scored upper level center section 4th row for my friends and I.
Now Phish at The Sphere is a totally different animal. Lordy.

TTB

Put me in the “I don’t get it” camp as well. It seems like I should enjoy the music much more than I actually do. Not sure why. Kinda like Steely Dan.

That Patrick Kane trade looks pretty good so far. Sorry, Chelios.

Picking up Kane

Yes, one of many good moves by Yzerman last year.
A totally different team than a year ago.
Hope they keep the momentum going.

Slipping and a sliding

DMCVT - it was watching "Performance", in the mid 1970's that turned me on to liking slide guitar, too. Ry Cooder - I had never heard anything that sounded so other worldly. Deeply psychedelic...or maybe that was me. Whatever, I still like it. I watched "Paris, Texas" for the first time in a couple of decades earlier this week - and Ry Cooder plays some of the same licks in that. Incredible tone.
I basically prefer acoustic slide to electric. I usually play this at home everyday - a great hobby! If I was to pick my 5 favourites, it would change everyday probably. But for today

Robert Johnson ......always at the top
Blind Willie Johnson
Son House
Elmore James
Muddy Waters - I played his recordings from 1950-1951 just this morning. Really cuts through to the bone.
Mississippi Fred McDowell

And an honourable mention for Michael Messer my favourite slide guitarist from Britain.

VGKGuy

We got schooled by a better team, VGuy.
TTB presale starts today for Swamp Club members, which I am not, so by General Sale on Friday I expect the usual scraps after TicketBastard parcels off tix for “friends and family”. I wanted to see Neil Young on his upcoming tour, and I am member of his pre-sale thing, but good luck. Not happening.
I miss the days when the devoted lined up at ticket sellers, you felt like you earned getting the seats you got. Maybe I’ll take my wife to Dune 2 this weekend as consolation.
As Mr Ones so often rightly pointed out, music is the best! Getting concert tix, well…

2/28/69 Fillmore West

Absolute knockout of a show. Its to bad 1969 wasn't a leap year, because we would have had 2/29/69 to listen to.

All this talk of Slide Players...

but no one has mentioned Jesse Ed Davis...for a time he worked with Ry & Taj Mahal in the mid to late 60's...his playing on "Statesboro Blues" influenced Duane...Jesse Ed played the lead on J Browne's "Doctor My Eyes" & Dylan's "Watching The River Flow"...his credits are incredible, playing with everyone...sadly he passed at the age of 43 from an overdose...

2-27-69

Am anxious to hear this, am always in full agreement with BTK, having been at many of the same West Coast shows in the 80’s. I’ve got so many of the official releases (only missed a few Daves and the Trunk, otherwise have it all) and 400 hours of pretty good cassettes (from the olden tape trading days), that I seldom listen to shows in the archive. I usually will download music into iTunes, load it into my phone/watch and get a good listen in while exercising. The problem for me is that I know of no way to download soundboards off the archive. Without a download, because of my own habits, I just won’t get that quality listening. So the first question for my dead brethren is, is there a way to download a soundboard off the archive? And let me say categorically, I have never and will never sell, replicate, distribute or otherwise profit in any way from such downloads. Second question is whether there is a decent audience version of this show, because I generally have no problem downloading those archives. Thank you for any advice you may have …. tcc

49 Returned Damaged

My buddy in Crested Butte got a notice today (33 days after shipping out from Fontana) that his original was returned damaged. No other info. Well at least we know that one wasn't stolen, lol. No such news on mine or our other buddy's in the Butte. There's Mail Innovations for you.
Cheers

TCC: downloads

Might be the last person to learn of certain apps and hesitate to do anything that might snuff the golden goose... but, in the interests of sharing music, found two apps worth installing... to download what seems like an incredible selection of performance aud and sbd from many bands. Relisten is one, Attics is the other. Installed these on phones and tablets to build a collection of concerts from the Dead, Billy Strings, TTB, Zero, Phil and Friends, JRAD, Phish, on and on. Typically at my cave, these go via blue tooth to a quality portable speaker to allow mobile music outdoors, they could send to a high quality audio set up, can't vouch for audiophile levels there.

What, no Feat?

No Lowell George or Paul Barrere?
Hell they taught Bonnie how to play slide…
And glad at least BTK has Garcia listed.
You don’t necessarily think of Jerry as a “slide” player but I’d say he’s no slouch!
Or Warren Haynes or Jimmy Herring?
EDIT: sorry Simon, see you have Lowell listed.

Bonnie on slide

Oro... love ya bud, but Bonnie was playing guitar from age 8, her first major slide influence probably Robert Johnson when she was 15... later Ry Cooder, by 1967/68 when I believe she was at college near Boston, with John Hammond Jr, who hasn't had a shout out yet for his great slide work. There's an interview with Bonnie in guitarworld that covers all this and Lowell too. Lucky to meet John a few years ago, breakfast at his hotel during the North Atlantic Blues Festival in Rockland, Maine where we happened to be staying as well. Hammond very kindly invited us over to sit with him and his wife, such a humble guy who tore it up with Hendrix and Bonnie back in the day. BBKing called Bonnie one of the best on slide. This years NABF program looks to be quite fine.

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