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    Surprisingly, been really enjoying spring 95!
    Proves you can’t believe everything you read on the internet lol

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    3/5/72 Winterland, the recording isn't great but the music is real nice.

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    to start…
    Hopefully another DHB today!

    Edit: 22 was nice, but the 23 JG seems to be really enjoying ole Brucey helping out!

    Uncle T: love that show! Lotso good sheet on fall 91…oh David?

    Jonathan: agree, Cutler made things sound very clean, facilitated by removing all the speakers off stage and isolating the drums. His mix on ITD to me is the sound of the Grateful Dead. His recordings are pristine…BUT!!…no offense, we always thought his live mix in person was way too quiet.
    People used to hassle him about it too.
    I preferred Healy in the hall, but Cutler on tape…but hey, just my two centavos from someone who’s stereo could be heard two houses away…with all the windows closed lol. Those were the days, thought R&R was never gonna die…

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    today

    PEACE for ALL
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    I think the mix JC had with the boards from 94-95, to my ears, sound fantastic. It doesn't seem many are in circulation but the "true" boards that are have a very "clean" mix, IMHO. I really wish the great spring 1993 tour was recorded in this way, but alas they werent. Also, I thinnk the drums/space segment from shows really showcase the potentail of this particular recording process. Mickey and Billy were some real MVP's in those final two years of the band

    Just my 2 cents

    Rock on, gang!

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    Because it's way Way WAY better than engaging with anything else that might be available/ongoing this evening.

    GBtGOGD

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    double post

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    7/29/74 bonus disc

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    "Tempest" by Bob Dylan. How come he has made so many great albums ? Most people I know haven't made any.

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    A lot to do today!
    3/17/95 currently
    3/18&19/95 Shlater…

    RE: Late era SBs…
    I’m guessing John Cutler wasn’t letting folks patch in direct for whatever reason. I would certainly assume they made recordings.
    I.e., Like the DATs used for the released DaPs…
    Yeah, Harry Popick, the longtime monitor guy (at big mix desk left of Phil) might have been eventually delegated to making recordings? That would make it less likely for direct feeds to tapers…I’m guessing he must have had a master mix for guests or himself (he can hear any of the mixes individually or any combination) since the individual musician mixes were custom, which often did not include all the other musicians and definitely would have had things in their mix at different levels so a feed like that would probably sound pretty goofy to a civilian? i.e., smidge of kick drum, low bass, loud vocals, yours a tad louder, JG, no Vinny…you can customize it any way you like.
    Now if someone had a comprehensive, balanced mix, THAT, could sound good, but in my experience, most musicians don’t want everything, or certain things up in their mix, if in it at all.
    BITD we didn’t have in ears, so you often would just put certain things in your floor monitor mix, since you’d still hear most of the instruments etc from their amps (and often the PA) I mostly had vocals, a little kick drum, and any acoustic instruments I couldn’t other wise hear. It gets easily cluttered up so you learn to use just what you really need. But they of course were on a whole different level utilizing dozens of channels all custom mixed to their preferences.
    Very interesting though? We’ll have to learn more about it.
    There definitely are monitor mixes on arch labeled as SBs, but you’d have to think they have better stuff than that in the vault.
    PLUS!, remember, this is the digital age now and folks were starting to bring in some serious digital gear by the end…so I can see the band not allowing direct hi res board feeds to such gear, which you could only really guarantee by not having any direct feeds. Pesky DH pranksters would find a way given the opportunity lol
    Berry interesting…

    Oh, yeah they had a talk feature so they could communicate verbally if need be, which since certain individuals didn’t have everyone in there mix could be helpful,., it was fun when occasionally that would accidentally get into the main PA mix and we’d hear it out front.

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Good job Uncle.
Last night I gave 6-17-91 vinyl a spin.

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I have the single 180 g LP. I see that Experience Vinyl has the whole show on 3 LP’s, but it doesn’t specify that they are 180 g, and they’re overpriced.

The complete Leeds on CD is in short supply and also overpriced.

I have the single CD that doesn’t have Tommy.

Not to worry, the Hull CD I ordered arrived today. It has a Tommy.

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I don't really listen to The Who so much these days, but the Live at Leeds and Hull shows seem really similar to me. In fact, they famously took the bass part out of a song from the Leeds show and attached it to one from Hull. The playing was so similar on the two nights that it slipped in seamlessly. I think" Heaven and Hell" was the track they did this on.
The original album - Live at Leeds, was marketed as being a bit like a bootleg at the time - if I remember rightly. No overdubs, and all sorts of clicks and buzzes included. As opposed to other live albums from the time - like "Get Yer Ya Ya's Out" which were heavily dubbed and doctored after the event. It was also fairly unique in featuring just one show, rather than being a compilation of songs from different shows on a given tour.

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...I've had enough...
followed my blues on down to The Scope, Norfolk, VA 1982-04-03...she LOVES that SPRING '82 more than me!
and NOW your man is GONE!

Peace All!
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Wow! The sound is so bright and clear. 16 track Betty, Rex recording. 1-23-73 with Merl Saunders, Kahn, Vitt, Sarah Fulcher at The Boarding House. Very funky cool. Cranking it up is required.
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Edit: Sarah Fulcher is amazing. At first I thought it was Marcy Levy, singer with Clapton and many others.

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Hey everyone! My current fav show is 10/3/80. It is just a solid show! Everyone should check it out on Relisten!

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...Spring '82, how could I NOT go down that road; 1982-04-18 HARTFORD II,...run me out in the COLD RAIN & did someone say SNOW!

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...BACKWARDS today, at the Warfield 1982-02-17, let's CUE it UP and let's GO

Peace All!
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Two cool shows that would make a great official release. My brother and I went to both these shows.

Daverock, can only agree, almost a mirror image (Tommy reference!). For hard core fans, Keith Moon drumming at Hull offers a little extra.

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Dmcvt - I always reach for the Hull show before the Leeds one - maybe it's the power of the drumming that edges it. In fact, that is The Who album I play now if I play one. Must have been amazing to see them around that time.

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jam of the week is 10/3/1980 Warfield, uncirculating SBD Set II open - you seem to have somebody's ear gg77!!

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Hey rockers!!

Believe it or not, I'm here at my office working on autopsy reports and listening to early Jethro Tull. I may have fallen and hit my head earlier in the morgue...............

I haven't understood a bar of music in my life, but I have felt it...........

Doc
Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race.....

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Glad you enjoyed the show! I love the Dire Wolf opener, the Row Jimmy, and the range of songs is just great!

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...you're moving much too slow; YES, landing today in "balwmer" 1982-04-19 [identifier #144567 on the Archive] and continuing with my BAKER'S dozen for 1982 (so far 5/23, 4/3, 4/18 II, 2/17, and this weekend WOW UC Davis 3/14 luv it); a HUGE THNX to Mr Healy for the SUPER sounding board recordings of 1982!

Friend comes by,
says he's looking for his hat...
Come on pretty momma let's get on the road again!!!

EVERYONE have a PEACEFUL day!
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JUST FINISHED LISTENING TO BALTIMORE APRIL 19 1982! if you don't know this show you need to check it OUT; it's the LAST NIGHT of SPRING '82, just LISTEN!
I don't believe in PRAISE for what I maybe hear as highlights, it's really up to you the listener, but a SOLID yes to
PEGGY-O
CASSIDY
ROSES
CUMBERLAND!
SET 2
enough said!

thanks to my buddy, Pauley, for introducing me to 1982-04-19 (oh yes, I still have the cassette of the 2nd set dubbed with buds back in summer 1987)

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phil ruth go to the business office...and everybody's dancin'...and the band keeps playin' on, TMNS! alpine valley 1982-08-07 [diP #32]

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My 6th show of exactly 50. without question one of the most important and special nights of music in my days on earth. myth time beauty. if the thunder don't get you the lightning will.

listening to 7/19/90 Deer Creek DaP 40 - np Desolation Row

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...many of you have never been late to a Rock n Roll show? [Bobby asks this question to the crowd when he is ready to start this show tonight]
...and so begins my return to SPRING '82 this morning with GLENS FALLS Civic 1982-04-14 streamin' on the archive identifier #7629, after a quick detour over to Alpine yesterday; YES, and a stand-out WHEEL as BLUECROW aptly notes {it appears alpine was your GO TO venue, very COOL!}

PEACE ALL!
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This is a personal favorite of mine. Love the China Rider, Deep Elem.
A lot of great shows in 82.

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...found some real gems in Glens Falls as DEADVIKES mentions check-out the china>rider and of course "Oh, sweet mama, your daddy's got them deep elem blues". I found the lazy>supplication fantastic as well as PITB! this was my 1st-ever listen and I'll def return.

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...about upstate NY and the intensity of the GD shows thru the years, and so I'm not leaving NY today, but heading west to Rochester 1982-04-09 streamin' on the archive #107054, and this will be another 1st-ever listen. just moving into DIRE WOLF with a big smilin' on my face because it is a rarity for 1982...stay tuned

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I am seeing a lot of chatter about '82 shows lately. I think I may have to get more methodical in my listening, and just devote some sustained listening to this year.

Back in the day, I had plenty of tapes from early Brent era (79-81) but I had nothing from 83, and for 1982 I just had 7/31 and 8/1. Great shows both, and I loved playing them, but somehow I never caught the 1982 bug. 1982 for me is like a history lesson that I've memorized for the test, you know, what happened on this day in '82 (edit: I was trying to say more about this but just kept getting hey now'd)

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was just a baby, my mama told me, Son...but I shot a man in RENO just to watch him die. And my interest has been piqued about this "dear prudence" tease... I was fortunate to see JGB perform "dear prudence" 2X at the Tower Theater {10/31/1981 & 6/27/1982} and so NOW I'm off to RENO 2nd Set 1982-03-13 [archive identifier #112858]

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so my treasure chest has about 30 shows on cassette from 1982, BUT 28 of them are ALL from July-December [yeah Austin & Zoo were in there too] and so I started wondering what did I miss during the Spring Tour and 1st half of the year, and apparently ALOT. I did attend the 1982-04-5 philly show, and how I luv'd that deep elem, but I missed purchasing the '82 RT 4.4 release due to 2 youngin's and budgeting constraints (lol such is life!) dig-in to the 1st half, it's tasty, and listening to those early try-outs from "in the dark" are not being performed

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...finished-UP that RENO 2nd set; well, it's a DEF a tease, but hardly a JAM that dear prudence, so listening carefully is required because it's quick; glad I went and checked-it-out, got another other one and black peter, they're probably 2 of the 3 [women smarter] most played tunes in '82...and I'm always a sucker for WELL the music's THUNDERIN' feel like a >franklin's scorchin' HOT, so check-it-out. thnx BILLYTHEKIDDD

NEXT movin' on to 1982-04-08 Set 2 SYRACUSE which will be another 1st-ever listen for me, streaming on the archive identifier #109567; this is SHOW #11 of my 1982 baker's dozen. everyone ENJOY your weekend. rock HARD!

Peace All!
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I really liked the Frost shows from 1982, that was my favorite year at the Frost. The 1982 Ventura shows were a blast. I don't know if you have listened to these shows yet, if not you might enjoy them.
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Stand Back! Here Comes Charlie Musselwhite's South Side Band.

Headed down the rabbit hole of Cristo Redentor/Christo Redentor - (Musselwhite uses the second spelling). Cause just found out that it was one of Musslewhite's signature tunes. And it's on this, his debut album, with Harvey Mandel on guitar.

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Great record. He plays Christo Redemptor at every show. There is a longer version on his album Tenesee Woman.

BTK - That sure is a great album. Not sure how its escaped my attention all these years. And Cristo Redentor is a truly beautiful song that also somehow was under the radar up until I keyed into the Harvey Mandel album. That extended version of Christo Redentor on Tennessee Woman is really really fine. Wish the version on Stand Back was jammed out like that - it fades while Mandel is laying down some real fine guitar that you know could keep on going. I'll have to track down some live versions. Went back to the source towards the end of the evening - the original version (I think) on Donald Byrd 's lp A New Perspective. Wow. Fun little rabbit hole.

edit - and for the record capcha was way way difficult this morning compared to normal but once i ran that gauntlet I didn't get the HN beat down which was a very much a surprise

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...at IT, and IT will be...1982-04-06 PHL spectrum [archive/ #105237] it'll be really interesting to hear this SHOW as it was RELEASED, and how it measures-up to the PREVIOUS eleven which are now behind me; be COOL everyone!

Peace All!
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...of 61 performances in1982. ENDING this baker's dozen w/ the 1982-05-22 GREEK [archive/ #165132] another 1st-ever LISTEN, and excited to be able to stream it.

yesterday's spectrum APRIL 6th show had a notable OTHER ONE [albeit 2nd verse only] less than a crazy three mins. and very very enjoyable DEW (one of only 8 in '82)

peace all!
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...starts today in St Louis with 1972-10-18 [don't have LTTR Box Set] so will be streaming on the archive #13925, sure is gonna be a different vibe after two weeks of listening to 1982 AND looking forward to it; LETS ROCK!

peace all!
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...forever TUNING, AND after reading the post this morning of "Blair's Golden Road blog" DARK STAR crashes...[and there is a HUGE need to hear it today; 1972-11-19 HOFHEINZ Pavilion will fit the bill just fine (streamin' on the archive identifier #123577)]

...pouring its light into ashes
Reason tatters

peace and kindness for ALL
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FALL 1972!...today is stanley theater in JERSEY CITY 1972-09-26, and we're ON with this SHOW!

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...yeah it's #3 out of 4 weekends, BUT a great opportunity to continue diving deeper into FALL '72! ready to LAUNCH 1972-11-22 Set 2 AUSTIN

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...after yesterday's massive rains lead me BACK to the stanley theater 1972-09-28, an AUD patch for TRUCKIN' starts this show off, but JG has indicated this is going to be another HOT night in JERSEY CITY...onward :)
everyone have a wonderful day
peace!
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IT FOR...Fall '72 with 1972-09-09 [daP 46 at the hollywood palladium] which ends a quick 6 show listening party...THE OTHER ONE!

peace today and EVERY DAY!
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I thought I'd give 3/14/90 a spin over the weekend, from "The Other One" box set. A few years since I've listened to a show of this vintage, and it was a pleasant surprise. So much so, that I'm now half way through the next show in the box 3/18/90.

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...THE ROAD...18 years to...[yes DAVEROCK has the ESP lol!]...beginning a NEW TOUR today with the 2nd SETS from 1990-03-15 CAP Center and 1990-03-24 KNICKerBOCKer ( my DH buddies and I got shut-out by GDTS for BOTH albany & atlanta; and it did HURT! ) my early TOUR synopsis has the potential for 8 SHOWS, but this wheel is on fire!

peace ALL!
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Did that Dozin' at the Knick yesterday and was amazed how good it was. That 3-24-90 show has to rival ones from any era! What a setlist too.
Cheers

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Uncle Tripel-so you were actually there - almost. Hopefully you got into some of the other shows on this tour.
It does enhance an era if you don't play anything from it for a while. Not that I'm going to attempt it with 1972 or anything.

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So I brought Dick's Picks 14 to work today (Latvala!) but then I had the urge to listen to 12/1/73. Anyone remember when David Gans played some of this night?

My tape of GDH #217 survives after 31+ years! I had to go look up the airdate - 'twas the week of 11/16/92. Contained within is some of the finest banter you'll ever hear. The "Clear the Aisles" song(s) are amazing - at least in retrospect - I mean, obv no one in the band was amazed at having to go on "this lame trip"...

In the foreward/intro for his book, Improvised Lives, Gans wrote that he thought the GDH would end after Garcia died. Show #361 aired in August '95 and contained the memorial at Golden Gate Park. But now we're at GDH #1853. That's nearly 1500 shows later. Gans is doing his level best to play as many Grateful Dead Hours as there were Grateful Dead shows! #ht

Haven't listened to this show in forever. Gifted a ticket day before in Chaco. It was hotter than Hades in the low desert in August (my first time down there) and thought my tires would melt as I drove into town. Ultramatrix circulates for Set I only and it sounds sweet. Edit - There's an in-house FM source for Set II.

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Sweat lodge!
Right after R.R. and T-ride in the cool Colorado air (rain).
Cheers
Thx BC, will check that one out.

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...the sun will shine in my back door EVERY day...with 1990-03-26 albany today, love this show!
would have liked to add additional comments but, like, you know, THEY'RE BACK AT THEIR COMPLIANCE B.S.

peace all!
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August 13, 1975.
Went to find this after PF and BTK referenced it on the Mars Hotel thread and found I only have a 90 min. tape that cuts off the Blues For Allah at the end. Doh! What was I thinkin'? Taped it in 1993 and obviously had no idea how rare performances of that song are. Only 5 times, all in 1975. Loved the wiki story about Mickey's live crickets in the basement with a microphone.
Cheers
Edit - How did I not get HNd when this AM nothing got through. So dang random.