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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    Hey, how about 2/3/78 just because it opens with a rockin' Cold Rain and Snow. If that's not your bag you can substitute 12/31/82, Jerry was married to Mountain Girl backstage and they opened with Cold Rain and Snow. The irony of the opening line was not lost on me.

    If memory serves this might have been a bolo pick early on on this thread, Dicks Picks 18.. but who cares.

    This one goes out to DVikes and DH Brewer. Rumor has it DV ventured out this morning to get the morning paper and froze solid when his hand stuck to the storm door trying to reenter. Holy crap it's cold in the Twin Cities. Denver had a 58 degree drop in temp from yesterday to today.

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    12/26/69.

    Thanks Billy

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    Winter begins at 1:48 pm today in the Bay Area. Winter may have the greatest Grateful Dead Shows of all time,2/14/68, 2/13&14/70, 2/27/69, 2/28/69, 3/1/69, 3/2/69, 12/26. & 28/79, just to name a few.

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    Istshow - "expanding my collection of what I already have". That rings true ! DiP 32 is sitting upstairs with my other Dave's. Probably played once, when it arrived a few years ago. I haven't a clue what it's like.

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    Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one…….

    Hey rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Shrine Auditorium, December 21, 1968

    If we choose, we can live in a world of comforting illusion……..

    This is dedicated to Kevin Kelly, he’ll understand why………..

    No illusion, this. But fair warning!! This is a major Pigfest, not-so-briefly interrupted by a typically crunchy, late 1968 CE/TOO/CE. The festivities open with Lovelight (lol clocking in at a “relatively” short 15 minutes), with an unusual coming-out-of Cryptical reprise It Hurts Me Too, a very interesting Alligator/drums/”way big jam”/short Alligator reprise, leading into a crazy good Caution!!! Wowzers!!! Don’t forget to send us home gently with And We Bid You Goodnight……….

    Miller’s remaster is very good, though not without flaws, but worth a serious listen, as it is a great auditory document of the band at this time……..

    We cast away priceless time in dreams, born of imagination, fed upon illusion, and put to death by reality…….

    Rock on!!!

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    Reminded me of a prized collection of little plastic football helmets that I had to work hard for. Maybe 1966 as the set had 16 helmets. You had to collect the plastic liner under bottle caps, maybe Coke or Pepsi, and get your whole team (must be 1966 as Charley Johnson was my STL QB, a hard to get bottle cap liner) on a sheet and send it in for the helmets. Maybe a local bottler was doing the promo. I devised a magnet on the end of a coat hanger to fish the bottle caps out of the soda machine in front of the local barbershop to fill that card. Got chased off by someone in the barbershop (What the hell you doin' boy!) at least once as I remember doing it surreptitiously and it took a few trips. A prized possession into my teens and not those crappy ones with a decal, these were stamped on team logos.
    We did play the tin hockey game, not electric but the shafts and spinning players kind, at a friend's house. Loved that!
    Cheers

    Edit: Got to DVs 4-14-82 China>Rider this AM. A lilting bouncy one with a casual transition, then driving to the end. What impressed me was the ensemble performance where everyone seemed on the same page without Bobby going off on his own and Brent contributing rather than soloing. Only negative was Phil was absent in the mix I picked (Braverman?). Will get to the rest of the show today.

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    Yes, I have been listening to #32 quite a bit this year. It is hot! Love this one Bluecrow.

    Okay, so at this point in time (always subject to change), my favorite China Rider from 82 is from Glen Falls, 4/14. OB turned me on this show. Check it out 1st Show.

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    Of what you liked about the DiP 32 China>Rider.
    Got me to pop it in and go.
    Damned if it isn't another overlooked DiP for me.
    Sitting next to 33? I don't know why.
    You guys are expanding my collection of what I already have.
    Cheers and onward past the Solstice and slowly back to the light.

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    >>>>>> 8/7/82 (DiP 32)

    Favorite post-'74 version hands down, an absolute beauty. Jerry's transition jam takes on this amazing "finger picking" energy. And then, just as you think Rider has arrived, and the sonic space quiets down and opens up for that first verse, Jerry brings back that ca. '73-'74 theme, a crystalline jewel, and then they drop into Rider. Only post '74 version of that I know of. One of my favorite passages of Grateful Dead music ever. Part of the reason I labeled my Set II cassette "Sacred Alpine Valley" long before the official release. Gifted that tape far and wide. It was my 6th show.

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    Love it OB, that was before my time. I retract my previous statement, my bad.

    Speaking of China Riders, there is something about them in 82, particularly the first part of the year.

    Can't blame you for overdosing on 77 Jim.

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During the totality.
They will never suspect it.
Escape with the banana boxes into the darkness. Then release the reels!
Cheers

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Check it out dude, Jorma won’t bite.
Hey, worst is their not open, no biggies, but if it is open, it’d be cool to meet him.

Hadn’t thought about eclipse, guess I’ll go 5 fourteen seventy four

Finished my w I n T e r spring 69 run. Just have to find the gumption to battle the evil HN lords

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Did not make it into Fur Peace. Had to drive by it, they must have been busy.

Pretty chill college town, nice view of the eclipse. All is good. Did listen to 2/27. It is one of THE classic dark stars. Sunny day in the 80's. Man that town can party.

There's a time and place for everything, and it's called College. Unfortunately, I am at that age where I politely look in the other direction but man.. Well.. there is nothing like the women on a college campus on a sunny spring day with weather in the 80's. And with eclipse glasses on, they can't really tell exactly where you are looking right?

Edit: Did I say that out loud? In my defense, you can't really see anything with eclipse glasses on, right?

Easy Jim

Just remember there Romeo
Lovely to look upon, heaven to touch,
It’s a real shame they got to cost so much…

But you already knew that ; )

JK, glad you had a fun day!

Forgot how much I love 5/14/74,l

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Jim, great job there channeling HF. I live close enough to a college campus to know whereof you speak. And I worked for that college for years, so... was with the cosmic spirit yesterday. We drove up to the Canadian border, near Newport, Vermont, found a high bit of snow covered pasture on a dirt road with nearly 360 by 180 horizon to watch. Deep in the sweet spot, totality lasted over three minutes. Had seen partials but now, I get why people will chase totality, way beyond spooky cool, epic. The farm animals made noise as it got dark, then were quiet. Roosters crowed like it was the break of day. It got cold suddenly and the light on the far horizons 25-30 miles away was rose and gold. The ride back was ridiculous with traffic never before and never will be seen again for decades.

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Hampton Coliseum
Hunter Seamons matrix on the archive.
This is a crisp sounding show with a fantastic set list.
Peace

Edit: Brent's high in the mix, and playing some really trippy shit.

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W i n t e r Spring 69

The rainbow ballon band lol

This round I hit every available show that I hadn’t heard before, plus rehashing a few official release ones.

For various reasons, I wasn’t able to get as deep as i usually do, and sometimes the lackluster recordings made it harder to get to the goodness, but usually I at least caught the standout moments, both good and not so good.
The overall consistency and repetitiveness actually makes it very hard to decipher subtle differences, so combined with my lighter digestion, I wouldn’t say this is a comprehensive consideration. More a go fast and hard and see what stuck approach.

Overall I found almost every show at least good, and don’t recall clunkers.

I had heard January seventeen via Doc on POTD, and the Aoxomoxoa 50th bonus stuff, but rehashed all that in order to get a good reference starting point.
February 2, 4, 5 and 6 were next, getting seemingly better each night, while noting the fierce Stephen 11 jam on the 5.
The very fine shows on the 7 we’d enjoyed on POTD via Doc, so skipped
Same with the Fillmore shows on the 11.

Did hit another hot one on the 12th, though not sure which show, but man it has another scorching Stephen 11 jam!

Followed with the good first night at The Electric factory, but perhaps a step behind the awesome next night previously dug via Doc on POTD.

I skipped the RJ level goodness of the 2 Dream bowl shows, but I did rehash the whole FW run as I’ve never done so completely and in order before. Sigh, words can not convey…

Skipped the previous POTD Doc choice on March 15 (another top shelf) so next up was an equally wonderful outing on the 22 at the Rose Palace. The tape takes awhile to settle but don’t let that stop ya!
The 28 is another good but perhaps not great outing from Modesto.

I skipped Docs previous choice on the 3/26 and 4/11, along with the Avalon run.
Again, goal was to hit unheard shows this time around…

February things really start getting unbelievable. Some of the newer songs that were ruff at best earlier, are starting to gel and the “Live Dead” stuff is starting to get more improvisational as their slowly shifting from the “keep it tight and right” for the recordings phase. The consistency is still very good but their starting to morph and explore more, and it’s easy to hear differences in this material, perhaps easier than back in February.

April 12 - 17 are absolute gold! Some of the recorders aren’t great but you must hear your way through that to fully appreciate some extremely fine Dead! The 15 especially got my attention! And I rehashed the 17 since previously my copy was not complete and to compare with the 15. I’d call the 17 the 15 if it was given the treatment. And hey, it’s just a little rain folks lol.

Skipped previous Doc 18, which I think is good, but just a tad behind the previous? Did hit the 20 with similar feelings.
Though I’ve heard the Ark shows, don’t think ever did them completely in order etc, so rehashed and dug the hell outta those. I find the middle show to be RJ while the others are good, but perhaps missed it by that much?
Same with the 25. I did the complete shows from the next 2 nights as I’d only heard the DP before. Really strong like all of April but maybe a tad off the peak of a week or two previous?

May is still good, but felt like they peaked and were moving on again with more new material and increasingly longer shows (earlier there were many one set shows, though some of that might be incomplete recordings too)
Checked out the Sierra college on the 3, kinda weird?, and perhaps even weirder vibe at the Polo fields on the 7. Another beauty at the Rose Palace again on the 10 with a very awesome Dark Star!
Perhaps the best of May I heard this round was the next night at the Aztec Bowl, followed by perhaps the only dog in the bunch, Moraga on the 16, which I rehashed since Doc mentioned it again lol. More weirdness lol
Skipped the awesome RT FLA shows, but continued with May 29, 30, and 31st.
All were good, but the recording was ruff on the 29, and the 31st was perhaps a step above due to the a shenanigans and what not? Yet More weirdness lol
Finished off with the weird June first show? Was that a show?
Previously hit the fifth so next up will be the June FW run, but I’m way to burnt on this music for now. I’ll check out more, including the 27 and 28 that BTK has been suggesting…but first, full random cleansing Oxford 88, 5/14/74, 49, and anything else lol. Then, probably starting next week, going to do May through July of 79.
Onward!

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That is a fine show TN.
Think I had it in my top five when I did that tour!

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The Aoxomoxoa outtakes from around this time are also worth checking out. St Stephen with cello, The Eleven with bagpipes and Barbed Wire Whipping Party with nitrous oxide, supposedly.

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Nice work OB. How did you get that post past the Hey Now police?

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I caught that one. I'd tell the tale but the HeyChow police are on to me.

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...wasn't it named hampton roads coliseum? can still remember the 6 hour jaunt with a forever slow crawl thru delaware [alabama toot-away anyone?] yup, we got back to the hotel and all one of our friends could talk about was "how the dead were now singing nursery-rhymes"...ashes ashes all fall down! lol; 4/9/83 FUN stuff!

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The first show I travelled to, I took the rents car but I am quite sure they had no idea we were going to a dead show.

We all tripped, it was my second or third show, still cannot recall if I was at the Cap Centre show in the fall of 82. I think yes, but not entirely sure. My ex tossed all my stubs.

Anyway, I did not have many tapes by then and I did not know that many songs yet so my memories are more of the scene, how much fun we had and afterwards finding a place to sleep without getting in any trouble. I remember how hard they jammed to be sure. We had almost no money, gas was about a dollar a gallon, so if you pack some food and don't have to spring for a hotel it's very doable. In 83 you could get tickets without too much trouble for like $12 or something. You see Tailor Swift was not even born yet and the last, next to the last, seriously this is the last Eagles tour was not an issue yet so 100 dollar tickets were farcical.

After the show we drove to Va Beach to try and sleep on the sand afterwards. That was a no go.. we were destined to be up all night. It started to drizzle, it was cold and cops were buzzing so we abandoned that idea and ended up quasi sleeping in the car in the parking lot of a motor in.

So was my first travelling dead show. We had the time of our lives and thankfully, did not get in trouble and the parents car was returned the next day unharmed. Good thing they did not check the mileage.

Oh, the show was really freaking good as far as I can remember. Help/Slip!/Franks and then some.

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I took that as far as I could adding a sentence at a time until Sargeant Hey Now found me. I'm pretty sure if I would have spelled Ms Swifts name correctly I would have gotten gong'd.

At least I got in that much but it took me a couple days and more time than I am willing to admit I spent on this.

These guys really have become the anti-fun police. If justice prevailed it would be marked on their headstones for eternity.

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...first TRAVELIN' road show ALSO; dad loaned us his lil' VW dasher diesel station wagon (filled-up one tank of diesel, less than ten bucks and used about 3/4 of a tank, we need toll money for the BAY bridge, yup time to pass the hat) we piled-in...ALL of us PSEUDO hippies...and it poured rain for all 6 hours, and I remember driving, and it's the middle of the afternoon and it was like driving at dusk the entire route. walked out at the end and we were all very SATISFIED.

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Nice work Jim.

As we all know, posting is requiring a lot of patience and it does not look like this will change any time soon.

Your post has inspired me to pull up some early 80s for today. Now, what shall it be?

Edit. Decided to go with 11/28/80, from the 30 Trips Box. Stay well out there. It is Masters week!

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Felonious, excusable, justifiable, and praiseworthy.

On a lighter note, karma has struck, no more running through airports looking for murderers.............

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Take him and cut him out in little stars,
And he will make the face of heaven so fine
That all the world will be in love with night
And pay no worship to the garish sun

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Tried to post another travel tale to Hampton and the next night in Morgantown but can't get past the HN

Have tried to edit the post multiple times. Can't figure out what it doesn't like. It didn't like the word "party" in the paragraph below but let me put it here?

A bunch of us chartered a bus in DE to go to the 83 Hampton show and the next night in Morgantown WV. About an hour into the trip the bus driver pulled over unexpectedly, got up and faced the crowd and said something like "I'm not driving this bus with everyone drinking and smoking". One of the organizers of the trip took him outside and talked to him. Don't know what exactly was said but he got back in the drivers seat and away we went.

The Hampton show was great, we had hotel rooms for the night, like 6 people to a room. On the way to Morgantown we convinced the driver to stop at a liquor store somewhere. 40 people piled off the bus and nearly cleaned out that store. Some interesting stares and a customer asked "who are you people?" We explained we were headed to the show in Morgantown. That answer just returned a blank look from the customer. I was kind of fried by showtime so I don't remember a lot about the show except it was enjoyable. Slept on the bus for the approximately 8 hr ride home. We collected about $200 for the bus driver, which was pretty good for 1983. A grand time was had by all.

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from garcia fam prov, grateful golfers items.
just in time for the masters.
Cheers

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Thanks for the Hampton stories. I enjoyed reading them.
It would be 2 more years for my first Hampton show, and I never missed one after that.
Peace

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They have the filter on high today
Trying to add Hampton lore
Nope…

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Being basically “southern Canadian” we thought I’d be spring break on V beach

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So when we drive out there nothing! Ghost town, cold AF,
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So we burned one and found a head shop

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Where I found my one and only Fabulous Furry Freak comic which I still have lol

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The bikinis and “beach” type vibe would have to wait for FLA fall 88!
Big Fun!

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I had to look that one up in the Urban Dictionary. Cracked me up.

First, great stuff all around here lately.

FFS, That's exactly the way it's been for me for the last couple months. The filter must somehow engages when I actually have something to say. I can comment on the weather and lines at the bank no problem.

I am befuddled by how you got that monster 69 post through. There must have been power blackout in Burbank when you wrote that. How else could it have gotten through?

Great stuff here lately.

I know exactly what you mean by burnout OB. I really like listening to sequences of shows in a row preferably an entire tour. But by the end it sometimes tastes like unseasoned spinach and broccoli and if you jump forward or backwards by 10 years it sounds like it's all juiced up on Sriracha.

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Bucknell, April 14 1971

A powerful and deep show, wonderfully designed and perfectly executed by the Dead, crackling with energy, a supernova of a show that blows away almost everything else played that month. How did they do it? Did they all drop acid? I’ll even ignore the fact that there are only two Pigpen tunes. The band is on fire, every tune here works, cosmic reflections of all that was good and pure about the Dead’s music that month. Rocking all over the place, with wonderful slices of soul and psychedelia, on this night everything the Dead touches turns to gold and pure bliss. Somehow, some way, on April 14 1971, in Lewisburg, Pennsylvania, the Dead played a show for the ages………

Rock on,

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Hi, gang! Anyone spent any time with this gem lately??

2/26/73 aka first 1/2 of Dicks Picks #26

IMHO this is a top tier release from our beloved Dick-Dave & CO.

This offering is like a pack of stoned cowboys on the most gnarly shrooms known to man!!! lol

Today's walk the dog/exercise routine will feature the second half of, 2/28/73

Rock on, gang!!

Edit: shout-out to the vocals as well! Really fine singing IMHO

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Yeah, any dribble goes through no problemo
Try to post about the band or something relevant,
NO SOUP FOR YOU!

Jonathan, I’ve been yelling at the mountaintop:

Early 73 box: first six shows! (No tape for the 24)
If you like DP 26, then I double dog dare ya to do the first six in order!
You can thank me later ; )
Onward!

EDIT: my 69 post, shhh, wasn’t supposed to mention, but Bolo used some of his espionage connections to get the filter temporarily cut

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First six shows. Sounds like a plan!!

I'll report back

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Like a pack of stoned cowboys on the most gnarliest shrooms known to man
Proper!

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Mine did not - honestly there is a randomness to HN that seems to be a deliberate feature and not a bug.

Been too long since i visited 2/26 Lincoln and 2/28 Salt Lick. My memory is that DiP 28 was released when we were attending shows at Red Rocks and I think I bought my copy there? Edit - memory is incorrect at least in part as it was released on 4/20/2003, but I still feel like thats where i got my copy.

Yep, some kinda algorithm.

Gonna pick some chestnuts for Sunday afternoon pleaser listening from 28!

I liked 4 14 71, but the next three nights were some of my favs from that hot month. I seemed to have especially enjoyed 4 17!

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The '73 release y'all are conversating about is Dick's 28, right?
Some of y'all have typed 26, and had my old muddled brain confused.
Don't take much.
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yes, #28 not #26.

I was a little excited!!! lol

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Understood. lol
Peace

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28 correct
I’m blaming Jonathan ; )

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No problem my brother!

I did finish the second half of #28, 2/28/73, and yup, just as stellar as the first half!

I'll give those first six shows a go, as you mentioned, Orob

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JK, of course

I hit a couple hours of chestnuts from this fine release yesterday.
Thanks for reminding us!

On on to May 79…

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Gave that 4/14/71 Bucknell show a listen today.
That was a really good show with a clean recording off the archive.
Peace

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Dedicated to Jay Carstens....................

Can one safely critique a venerable classic without having to run for cover? LOL I have no idea. In any case, get ready for THE Pigpen show. Yes, Mr. Pen dominates, especially on Good Lovin’ and Lovelight, where he lays down classic raps while the boys in the band back him up ably with wonderful psychedelic snake music. And the “smaller” Pig numbers work as well, particularly the rare and finely performed King Bee and the typically hard rockin’ April 71 Hard To Handle. Throw in a wonderful Bird Song, heart felt Sing Me Back Home, and the other usual rock and roll and country/western suspects, and there you have it----super solid show. Maybe not the classic it was once considered to be (hey, can I safely say that?), but still highly recommended………………….

Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to be silent.....

Rock on!

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A pistol shot
At five o’clock
The bells of heaven ring
Tell me what you done it for…
RIP Rick G, we didn’t even get to meet you

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One of my favorite 1971 shows and a perfect example of “the sledgehammer approach”---loud, fast, bone crunching rock and roll, very edgy, skip the subtlety, fasten yer seatbelts and go directly to “pulverize”. Almost everything is a highlight, but things like Next Time You See Me, China/Rider, Truckin’ (check out the truly fierce playing by Garcia near the end), Hard To Handle, the crazed hyperkinetic Around & Around, and the massive Good Lovin’ stand out. If you like your rock and roll Grateful Dead style, this one’s for you! Highly highly recommended!

Rock and roll is the hamburger that ate the world......

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I can't wait to crank this up on my way to work!!!!

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First concert I ever attended: Marshall Tucker Band and Allman Brothers. So began my personal long, strange trip

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No my first concert, but I saw the brothers with and without Dickie Betts many times (although sadly not with Duane).

As for 4/28/71. One of the greats. Listened to 4/14/78 yesterday. Certainly not the best in the tour but put it all together and Spring 78 was sort of grate.

It's got to be Friday somewhere, so here's to that. Time to start acting like it's going to be a great weekend and hope the planets and stars align accordingly.

Edit: Wow, this is the first post that went through on the first try in a very long time.

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RIP Dickie Betts.

Hitting 6/10/73 from last year's glorious box in his honor.

Probably should mix in a E72 show at some point as well this weekend.

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Sixtus' birthday also, if my memory is correct. Good choice. I've only got one listen from that box. Fingers crossed that keeping this short get's it through.

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At least that 4th disc.
Saw Dickey with ABB twice.
Mile High ('74), Red Rocks ('89).
Cheers
Diggin' the That's All Right!

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A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, there was RIA on 4/21/71. The force was with them. Or was it something in the water? Similar in tone to its hard rocking predecessor Cortland, but with “expanded content”, this is an underappreciated, quasi-classic that actually doesn’t get talked about a lot outside of “1971 aficionado circles”. Things get nicely weird early, five songs in they laid down the big jam sequence, followed by a wonderfully crunchy Hard To Handle. Things continue crunchy in set 2, with a non-drum solo Good Lovin’, a nice NFA suite, and an unusual two song encore which is sweet AND rocking. Highly recommended!

Rock on rockers!

Doc
I frequently hear music in the very heart of noise.....