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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    Can you imagine writing the real equipment book? With the constant upgrading of the system, that book would be multiple enormous volumes. Hope the Meyers have logged a lot of their research.

    No 18's here. Of course not needed.

    Back last year, Oro, you asked if I was running multiple subs. I am not. I have a 12" SVS Systems sub with built in Sledge D amp. It is like the rabbit, it is a thumper. Goes down to 13 or 15hz, so below the 20hz of human hearing. That is, if all memories about frequency response are still good. Starting to get the old enough to question my own thoughts at times.

    I am still hoping for the day when we can listen to WoS through a system that takes us to the "Fare the Well" P.A.. Would have to be software based, but I look at it like 4K upcoding an HDTV signal.

    Wow, FTW PA is now 7 years ago. Bet the Meyers' have gone way beyond that. I almost applied for a job at Meyer 7 years ago. Was in my career field. POTHead.

    That 2015 system had multiple flying 18's. It also had a load balancing system. This was done by having 2 systems, intake and outake. That is, they had 100 microphones throughout the stadium to push into the analytics software. Of course, the output systems was not connected except thru analytics, to the input system to avoid feedback. Brilliant. The analytic input system could then be used to balance the PA by section of the of the stadium.

    Sorry for interruption but I wanted find the article on pro sound web about 2015 FTW PA.

    I did actually find it, but not by searching pro sound web, but by searching internet at large and it found it on the pro sound web site, even though pro sound web could not find it in its own search.

    Let me know, maybe I can send lynk thru PM here, not sure if they cut that off.

    Any way need to do a little work after lunch. I mean a little work.

    G

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    That’s what chain saws are for!

    Gary, I think besides trying to keep up with Garcia, Phil was using that big system on stage to help fill in those near field areas (up front etc) we were discussing, the areas that didn’t get proper coverage from the PA?
    What some refer to as the Phil Zone, though to me that’s was where both his stage sound and the PA sound merged and acoustically coupled.
    But yeah, My spine tingles and can still feel rather than hear those sub frequencies in my DNA. (By sub I mean below the threshold of hearing, not a subwoofer). Those Meyers 18”s in the PA were ridiculous in the right spot, in the right venue etc.
    Plus, it’s the Grateful Fucking Dead so why not go big!

    PS, that Grateful Dead gear book is great, though a little dialed down.

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    I want what Phil's having...

    Home version. 18"'s and 4"'s. If I move some things around, they should fit.

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    thanks for the write-up, input. Need a little time to read again and ponder. Think again we are speaking the same language but as 90% of communication is non verbal, some times the written language let's us down.

    It seems I have the dead's equipment book, need to track that down. Not necessarily for this discussion but just to find it again...

    Should have figured Phil would use Meyer systems. Using 18's onstage, wow!

    Hope all well your way!

    G

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    As of late 82 or early 83 Phil was using 4 Meyers cabinets: (4 -18”, 4 -15”), 2 per cabinet powered by custom PIE amps, until they started not using speakers on stage in 92. (Which I didn’t like).

    Not sure I get all what your saying? I agree that Soundboards do not sound natural for many reasons.
    Perhaps your referring to the phenomena of Microphones not having frequency response to accurately record bass waves combing sub sonic frequencies at those kind of SPL levels?
    Mic location can also make a big difference and was partly why Dan started the tapers section. Unless you have the right knowledge and equipment chances are a recording made too close will mot sound good.
    Plus you have the physics: the lower the frequency, the longer the sound wave. If your too close you’ll not hear the fully formed bass note etc.
    In fact if your too close much of the PA sound will blow right by you. You’ll also not properly experience stereo imaging. That’s why usually, the sound board or just before it was THE place to be. It was a trade off going up front: yeah you were up close and could see and hear their stage sound, but the PA mix was so above and beyond you that you missed a lot of info. Eventually they added little Meyers boxes, usually sitting on the front of the stage to add some vocals etc for those up close.
    Nothing comes for free! Personally, like Bear, I didn’t like the stereo set up because of this. Unless you were in the right spot, you missed a lot of info, especially if you were sitting on the side!
    This was the main reason Reserved seating sucked: nobody could sit where they wanted so if you were a sound nut like us, you often had to endure less than perfect sound/mixes.

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    I listened to 1988-10-15. Once Friday, Second Saturday. Two different sources although both said the Ultramatrix board, the first was much muddier than the second. Best highlight was the deep garbled voices toward the end of drums. Really bizarre, and reminds me of garbled voices during latter Star Wars during broken transmissions, and reminds me of the fellas ties to Lucas, the lightgiver.

    I was very disappointed in both versions as the show is missing a whole lot of data/music. What I mean by this is, I am wondering if there is fallout from the phil zone? I am positing that as the Phil Zone expanded, Healy lost control of the overall sound. If memory serves at some point it seems I remember maybe Phil using 18" woofers onstage. For sure he was using 15's (plus 12's and 10's). Now I loved my bit of time I spent in the Phil zone, but generally when I got up close, it was Jerry side. As Phil blasts his horn, this means Healy had to bring Phil down in the overall P.A. mix. In my humble opinion, I believe this led to the bad tape sound, lots of data/music missing. When I focus my ears, I can tell that much of the overall lower sound waves are missing or nonexistent. Even worse, the frequencies that are there are very muddled and indiscernible.

    Now as a way to test my theory, I listened to 1988-03-27, Hampton. Another group of shows I saw in 1988. I did see 8 Dead shows there and fully know the quality of the sound that can be obtained within the mothership. (Also saw the shows that make up "Hampton Comes Alive..") When I listened to March 27, the sound is very good. However, although not as bad a St.Pete, there is again a large amount of data/music missing as well. The imaging is excellent but that is because the imaging comes from the higher frequencies. Bass frequencies are much more omni- directional, whereas high frequencies are unidirectional. (Want to press on these concepts furthur, later on. I want to go back to some discussions back in October regarding HDCD.) If my hypothesis is correct, then the tape anomalies concerning extremely muddled low frequencies will test out thru other 1988 shows. Had not heard or noticed this until this past weekend. So for St. Pete, it not only causes Phil to be muddled (deep booming bass with no clarity to individual notes played), it also means some muddleness from other players/instruments. I believe this may be the reason why 1988 recordings may all need matrix recording.

    Just one man's opinion, would like to know what others thought.

    Both Hampton and St. Pete were excellent shows when you factor other aspects than just the quality of the reproduced sound on tape. One reason I love the later shows is because the P.A. quality produces a much more full bodied, across frequencies, sound than do earlier performances. Early performances are fire from perfomance, latter shows have more depth and clarity in the frequency spectrum, hence DaP#40.

    Ok enough for now.

    G

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    I was there.. It was so hot at the start of the show... Close to 100... Really enjoyed the long scarlet>fire popping up in the 4th slot.... Drove straight to Louisville after the show... why oh why.

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    Congrats Jim!!!

    Knew we were getting close. Still love the Raven show. I am a huge '82 fan.

    This was the same time as my first drop, April 1982, what a life changing event, as I know 4/19 was for you.

    First 2 drops were Orange Sunshine and Purple Haze. Not too bad for first 2. Man, there is a lot to write about with those 2.

    Thanks Jim for being such a solid rock of posting here, and again, Congrats.

    G

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    4/19 - Why take one when two will do?

    I can't say no to that. A pivotal moment in the life of Jim.

    The drive home (including the arduous task of finding the car) was perhaps scarier than that moment when they derailed into discord and mayhem shortly after drums. The driver, the older brother of the friend I went with, was totally straight and a taper. The two of us had never seen the dead before and we both indulged - two each. Making it through space intact was the first challenge.. then we had to live through it again on the drive home. I was given very strict instructions which I followed as if my life depended on it, "He cannot know." So we hop in the car, he takes out his newly recorded master and fast forwards to that very moment it all began.

    "Quoth the Raven Nevermore. ....It was a dark and stormy night.... Wasn't it?" and the laughing and the sounds of nitrous.

    Listening to this again for the first time in a while, that laugh at the beginning of space that sounds remarkably like the laugh repeated over and over again on a loop cycle during the excellent Space from Dave's Picks 40, Deer Creek 6/18/90. It's the same laugh whether recreated or brought back to life from this recording? Not sure.

    Looking back on this 40 years later, I have to think maybe Larry wasn't as straight as he was purported to be. How could he not have known we were holding on for dear life on that fateful drive home? Perhaps he fast forwarded to that space because he knew and approved? A test? Questions that will likely remain unanswered.

    If you haven't heard this check it out, there's a brand spanking new Miller on the archive that reeks of an upgrade. On a similar note, Lemieux has been playing stuff from this tour this year. I recall him referring to it as "a most excellent tour", perhaps foreshadowing things to come?

    To me, the sound is better than some of the 82 that's found it's way to CD.. When the sweet chords of the Wheel finally broke through the madness that came before it.. I realized things were going to be ok after all. And they were. But the half hour before that and the half hour drive home took some time to make sense out of. Thankfully the Wheel and Stella Blue were there to provide support and ground us after our travels.

    I'd like to think we both passed the test. ahh.. well, onward.

    Edit: Two additional comments.. the discord probably started with Feel Like a Stranger, also that Brokedown Palace was sweet. 81 and 82 have some really nice versions of these songs, Jerry's voice was in good shape during this period. a real highlight.

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    I can't honestly say I remember the Pigpen version - despite having the cd of 4/18/70. But that John Lee Hooker record is unforgettable. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds cut a thunderous record based on this theme, and with that title, in the mid 80's.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Mon, 04/08/2024 - 06:29

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During the totality.
They will never suspect it.
Escape with the banana boxes into the darkness. Then release the reels!
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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 04/08/2024 - 07:25

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Check it out dude, Jorma won’t bite.
Hey, worst is their not open, no biggies, but if it is open, it’d be cool to meet him.

Hadn’t thought about eclipse, guess I’ll go 5 fourteen seventy four

Finished my w I n T e r spring 69 run. Just have to find the gumption to battle the evil HN lords

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 04/08/2024 - 19:28

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Did not make it into Fur Peace. Had to drive by it, they must have been busy.

Pretty chill college town, nice view of the eclipse. All is good. Did listen to 2/27. It is one of THE classic dark stars. Sunny day in the 80's. Man that town can party.

There's a time and place for everything, and it's called College. Unfortunately, I am at that age where I politely look in the other direction but man.. Well.. there is nothing like the women on a college campus on a sunny spring day with weather in the 80's. And with eclipse glasses on, they can't really tell exactly where you are looking right?

Edit: Did I say that out loud? In my defense, you can't really see anything with eclipse glasses on, right?

Easy Jim

Just remember there Romeo
Lovely to look upon, heaven to touch,
It’s a real shame they got to cost so much…

But you already knew that ; )

JK, glad you had a fun day!

Forgot how much I love 5/14/74,l

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Submitted by dmcvt on Tue, 04/09/2024 - 08:29

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Jim, great job there channeling HF. I live close enough to a college campus to know whereof you speak. And I worked for that college for years, so... was with the cosmic spirit yesterday. We drove up to the Canadian border, near Newport, Vermont, found a high bit of snow covered pasture on a dirt road with nearly 360 by 180 horizon to watch. Deep in the sweet spot, totality lasted over three minutes. Had seen partials but now, I get why people will chase totality, way beyond spooky cool, epic. The farm animals made noise as it got dark, then were quiet. Roosters crowed like it was the break of day. It got cold suddenly and the light on the far horizons 25-30 miles away was rose and gold. The ride back was ridiculous with traffic never before and never will be seen again for decades.

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Submitted by TN John on Tue, 04/09/2024 - 08:32

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Hampton Coliseum
Hunter Seamons matrix on the archive.
This is a crisp sounding show with a fantastic set list.
Peace

Edit: Brent's high in the mix, and playing some really trippy shit.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 04/09/2024 - 12:07

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W i n t e r Spring 69

The rainbow ballon band lol

This round I hit every available show that I hadn’t heard before, plus rehashing a few official release ones.

For various reasons, I wasn’t able to get as deep as i usually do, and sometimes the lackluster recordings made it harder to get to the goodness, but usually I at least caught the standout moments, both good and not so good.
The overall consistency and repetitiveness actually makes it very hard to decipher subtle differences, so combined with my lighter digestion, I wouldn’t say this is a comprehensive consideration. More a go fast and hard and see what stuck approach.

Overall I found almost every show at least good, and don’t recall clunkers.

I had heard January seventeen via Doc on POTD, and the Aoxomoxoa 50th bonus stuff, but rehashed all that in order to get a good reference starting point.
February 2, 4, 5 and 6 were next, getting seemingly better each night, while noting the fierce Stephen 11 jam on the 5.
The very fine shows on the 7 we’d enjoyed on POTD via Doc, so skipped
Same with the Fillmore shows on the 11.

Did hit another hot one on the 12th, though not sure which show, but man it has another scorching Stephen 11 jam!

Followed with the good first night at The Electric factory, but perhaps a step behind the awesome next night previously dug via Doc on POTD.

I skipped the RJ level goodness of the 2 Dream bowl shows, but I did rehash the whole FW run as I’ve never done so completely and in order before. Sigh, words can not convey…

Skipped the previous POTD Doc choice on March 15 (another top shelf) so next up was an equally wonderful outing on the 22 at the Rose Palace. The tape takes awhile to settle but don’t let that stop ya!
The 28 is another good but perhaps not great outing from Modesto.

I skipped Docs previous choice on the 3/26 and 4/11, along with the Avalon run.
Again, goal was to hit unheard shows this time around…

February things really start getting unbelievable. Some of the newer songs that were ruff at best earlier, are starting to gel and the “Live Dead” stuff is starting to get more improvisational as their slowly shifting from the “keep it tight and right” for the recordings phase. The consistency is still very good but their starting to morph and explore more, and it’s easy to hear differences in this material, perhaps easier than back in February.

April 12 - 17 are absolute gold! Some of the recorders aren’t great but you must hear your way through that to fully appreciate some extremely fine Dead! The 15 especially got my attention! And I rehashed the 17 since previously my copy was not complete and to compare with the 15. I’d call the 17 the 15 if it was given the treatment. And hey, it’s just a little rain folks lol.

Skipped previous Doc 18, which I think is good, but just a tad behind the previous? Did hit the 20 with similar feelings.
Though I’ve heard the Ark shows, don’t think ever did them completely in order etc, so rehashed and dug the hell outta those. I find the middle show to be RJ while the others are good, but perhaps missed it by that much?
Same with the 25. I did the complete shows from the next 2 nights as I’d only heard the DP before. Really strong like all of April but maybe a tad off the peak of a week or two previous?

May is still good, but felt like they peaked and were moving on again with more new material and increasingly longer shows (earlier there were many one set shows, though some of that might be incomplete recordings too)
Checked out the Sierra college on the 3, kinda weird?, and perhaps even weirder vibe at the Polo fields on the 7. Another beauty at the Rose Palace again on the 10 with a very awesome Dark Star!
Perhaps the best of May I heard this round was the next night at the Aztec Bowl, followed by perhaps the only dog in the bunch, Moraga on the 16, which I rehashed since Doc mentioned it again lol. More weirdness lol
Skipped the awesome RT FLA shows, but continued with May 29, 30, and 31st.
All were good, but the recording was ruff on the 29, and the 31st was perhaps a step above due to the a shenanigans and what not? Yet More weirdness lol
Finished off with the weird June first show? Was that a show?
Previously hit the fifth so next up will be the June FW run, but I’m way to burnt on this music for now. I’ll check out more, including the 27 and 28 that BTK has been suggesting…but first, full random cleansing Oxford 88, 5/14/74, 49, and anything else lol. Then, probably starting next week, going to do May through July of 79.
Onward!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 04/09/2024 - 12:16

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That is a fine show TN.
Think I had it in my top five when I did that tour!

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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 04/09/2024 - 14:08

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The Aoxomoxoa outtakes from around this time are also worth checking out. St Stephen with cello, The Eleven with bagpipes and Barbed Wire Whipping Party with nitrous oxide, supposedly.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 04/09/2024 - 16:28

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Nice work OB. How did you get that post past the Hey Now police?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 04/09/2024 - 18:35

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I caught that one. I'd tell the tale but the HeyChow police are on to me.

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Submitted by uncle_tripel on Wed, 04/10/2024 - 04:51

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...wasn't it named hampton roads coliseum? can still remember the 6 hour jaunt with a forever slow crawl thru delaware [alabama toot-away anyone?] yup, we got back to the hotel and all one of our friends could talk about was "how the dead were now singing nursery-rhymes"...ashes ashes all fall down! lol; 4/9/83 FUN stuff!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 04/10/2024 - 19:44

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The first show I travelled to, I took the rents car but I am quite sure they had no idea we were going to a dead show.

We all tripped, it was my second or third show, still cannot recall if I was at the Cap Centre show in the fall of 82. I think yes, but not entirely sure. My ex tossed all my stubs.

Anyway, I did not have many tapes by then and I did not know that many songs yet so my memories are more of the scene, how much fun we had and afterwards finding a place to sleep without getting in any trouble. I remember how hard they jammed to be sure. We had almost no money, gas was about a dollar a gallon, so if you pack some food and don't have to spring for a hotel it's very doable. In 83 you could get tickets without too much trouble for like $12 or something. You see Tailor Swift was not even born yet and the last, next to the last, seriously this is the last Eagles tour was not an issue yet so 100 dollar tickets were farcical.

After the show we drove to Va Beach to try and sleep on the sand afterwards. That was a no go.. we were destined to be up all night. It started to drizzle, it was cold and cops were buzzing so we abandoned that idea and ended up quasi sleeping in the car in the parking lot of a motor in.

So was my first travelling dead show. We had the time of our lives and thankfully, did not get in trouble and the parents car was returned the next day unharmed. Good thing they did not check the mileage.

Oh, the show was really freaking good as far as I can remember. Help/Slip!/Franks and then some.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 04/10/2024 - 19:57

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I took that as far as I could adding a sentence at a time until Sargeant Hey Now found me. I'm pretty sure if I would have spelled Ms Swifts name correctly I would have gotten gong'd.

At least I got in that much but it took me a couple days and more time than I am willing to admit I spent on this.

These guys really have become the anti-fun police. If justice prevailed it would be marked on their headstones for eternity.

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Submitted by uncle_tripel on Thu, 04/11/2024 - 04:35

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...first TRAVELIN' road show ALSO; dad loaned us his lil' VW dasher diesel station wagon (filled-up one tank of diesel, less than ten bucks and used about 3/4 of a tank, we need toll money for the BAY bridge, yup time to pass the hat) we piled-in...ALL of us PSEUDO hippies...and it poured rain for all 6 hours, and I remember driving, and it's the middle of the afternoon and it was like driving at dusk the entire route. walked out at the end and we were all very SATISFIED.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 04/11/2024 - 05:42

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Nice work Jim.

As we all know, posting is requiring a lot of patience and it does not look like this will change any time soon.

Your post has inspired me to pull up some early 80s for today. Now, what shall it be?

Edit. Decided to go with 11/28/80, from the 30 Trips Box. Stay well out there. It is Masters week!

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Thu, 04/11/2024 - 09:22

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Felonious, excusable, justifiable, and praiseworthy.

On a lighter note, karma has struck, no more running through airports looking for murderers.............

Doc
When he shall die,
Take him and cut him out in little stars,
And he will make the face of heaven so fine
That all the world will be in love with night
And pay no worship to the garish sun

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Submitted by delhead on Thu, 04/11/2024 - 11:28

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Tried to post another travel tale to Hampton and the next night in Morgantown but can't get past the HN

Have tried to edit the post multiple times. Can't figure out what it doesn't like. It didn't like the word "party" in the paragraph below but let me put it here?

A bunch of us chartered a bus in DE to go to the 83 Hampton show and the next night in Morgantown WV. About an hour into the trip the bus driver pulled over unexpectedly, got up and faced the crowd and said something like "I'm not driving this bus with everyone drinking and smoking". One of the organizers of the trip took him outside and talked to him. Don't know what exactly was said but he got back in the drivers seat and away we went.

The Hampton show was great, we had hotel rooms for the night, like 6 people to a room. On the way to Morgantown we convinced the driver to stop at a liquor store somewhere. 40 people piled off the bus and nearly cleaned out that store. Some interesting stares and a customer asked "who are you people?" We explained we were headed to the show in Morgantown. That answer just returned a blank look from the customer. I was kind of fried by showtime so I don't remember a lot about the show except it was enjoyable. Slept on the bus for the approximately 8 hr ride home. We collected about $200 for the bus driver, which was pretty good for 1983. A grand time was had by all.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Thu, 04/11/2024 - 11:50

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from garcia fam prov, grateful golfers items.
just in time for the masters.
Cheers

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Submitted by TN John on Thu, 04/11/2024 - 14:45

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Thanks for the Hampton stories. I enjoyed reading them.
It would be 2 more years for my first Hampton show, and I never missed one after that.
Peace

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 04/12/2024 - 11:29

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They have the filter on high today
Trying to add Hampton lore
Nope…

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 04/12/2024 - 11:34

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Being basically “southern Canadian” we thought I’d be spring break on V beach

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 04/12/2024 - 11:35

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So when we drive out there nothing! Ghost town, cold AF,
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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 04/12/2024 - 11:36

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So we burned one and found a head shop

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 04/12/2024 - 11:36

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Where I found my one and only Fabulous Furry Freak comic which I still have lol

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 04/12/2024 - 11:37

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The bikinis and “beach” type vibe would have to wait for FLA fall 88!
Big Fun!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 04/13/2024 - 20:28

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I had to look that one up in the Urban Dictionary. Cracked me up.

First, great stuff all around here lately.

FFS, That's exactly the way it's been for me for the last couple months. The filter must somehow engages when I actually have something to say. I can comment on the weather and lines at the bank no problem.

I am befuddled by how you got that monster 69 post through. There must have been power blackout in Burbank when you wrote that. How else could it have gotten through?

Great stuff here lately.

I know exactly what you mean by burnout OB. I really like listening to sequences of shows in a row preferably an entire tour. But by the end it sometimes tastes like unseasoned spinach and broccoli and if you jump forward or backwards by 10 years it sounds like it's all juiced up on Sriracha.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Sun, 04/14/2024 - 02:07

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Bucknell, April 14 1971

A powerful and deep show, wonderfully designed and perfectly executed by the Dead, crackling with energy, a supernova of a show that blows away almost everything else played that month. How did they do it? Did they all drop acid? I’ll even ignore the fact that there are only two Pigpen tunes. The band is on fire, every tune here works, cosmic reflections of all that was good and pure about the Dead’s music that month. Rocking all over the place, with wonderful slices of soul and psychedelia, on this night everything the Dead touches turns to gold and pure bliss. Somehow, some way, on April 14 1971, in Lewisburg, Pennsylvania, the Dead played a show for the ages………

Rock on,

Doc
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Submitted by jonathan918@GD on Sun, 04/14/2024 - 06:36

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Hi, gang! Anyone spent any time with this gem lately??

2/26/73 aka first 1/2 of Dicks Picks #26

IMHO this is a top tier release from our beloved Dick-Dave & CO.

This offering is like a pack of stoned cowboys on the most gnarly shrooms known to man!!! lol

Today's walk the dog/exercise routine will feature the second half of, 2/28/73

Rock on, gang!!

Edit: shout-out to the vocals as well! Really fine singing IMHO

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 04/14/2024 - 09:11

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Yeah, any dribble goes through no problemo
Try to post about the band or something relevant,
NO SOUP FOR YOU!

Jonathan, I’ve been yelling at the mountaintop:

Early 73 box: first six shows! (No tape for the 24)
If you like DP 26, then I double dog dare ya to do the first six in order!
You can thank me later ; )
Onward!

EDIT: my 69 post, shhh, wasn’t supposed to mention, but Bolo used some of his espionage connections to get the filter temporarily cut

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Submitted by jonathan918@GD on Sun, 04/14/2024 - 09:31

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First six shows. Sounds like a plan!!

I'll report back

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 04/14/2024 - 11:27

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Like a pack of stoned cowboys on the most gnarliest shrooms known to man
Proper!

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sun, 04/14/2024 - 11:33

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Mine did not - honestly there is a randomness to HN that seems to be a deliberate feature and not a bug.

Been too long since i visited 2/26 Lincoln and 2/28 Salt Lick. My memory is that DiP 28 was released when we were attending shows at Red Rocks and I think I bought my copy there? Edit - memory is incorrect at least in part as it was released on 4/20/2003, but I still feel like thats where i got my copy.

Yep, some kinda algorithm.

Gonna pick some chestnuts for Sunday afternoon pleaser listening from 28!

I liked 4 14 71, but the next three nights were some of my favs from that hot month. I seemed to have especially enjoyed 4 17!

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Submitted by TN John on Sun, 04/14/2024 - 19:28

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The '73 release y'all are conversating about is Dick's 28, right?
Some of y'all have typed 26, and had my old muddled brain confused.
Don't take much.
Peace

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Submitted by jonathan918@GD on Mon, 04/15/2024 - 02:37

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yes, #28 not #26.

I was a little excited!!! lol

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Submitted by TN John on Mon, 04/15/2024 - 04:38

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Understood. lol
Peace

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 04/15/2024 - 06:54

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28 correct
I’m blaming Jonathan ; )

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Submitted by jonathan918@GD on Mon, 04/15/2024 - 10:24

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No problem my brother!

I did finish the second half of #28, 2/28/73, and yup, just as stellar as the first half!

I'll give those first six shows a go, as you mentioned, Orob

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 04/15/2024 - 11:12

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JK, of course

I hit a couple hours of chestnuts from this fine release yesterday.
Thanks for reminding us!

On on to May 79…

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Submitted by TN John on Mon, 04/15/2024 - 19:03

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Gave that 4/14/71 Bucknell show a listen today.
That was a really good show with a clean recording off the archive.
Peace

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Wed, 04/17/2024 - 01:30

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Dedicated to Jay Carstens....................

Can one safely critique a venerable classic without having to run for cover? LOL I have no idea. In any case, get ready for THE Pigpen show. Yes, Mr. Pen dominates, especially on Good Lovin’ and Lovelight, where he lays down classic raps while the boys in the band back him up ably with wonderful psychedelic snake music. And the “smaller” Pig numbers work as well, particularly the rare and finely performed King Bee and the typically hard rockin’ April 71 Hard To Handle. Throw in a wonderful Bird Song, heart felt Sing Me Back Home, and the other usual rock and roll and country/western suspects, and there you have it----super solid show. Maybe not the classic it was once considered to be (hey, can I safely say that?), but still highly recommended………………….

Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to be silent.....

Rock on!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 04/17/2024 - 13:45

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A pistol shot
At five o’clock
The bells of heaven ring
Tell me what you done it for…
RIP Rick G, we didn’t even get to meet you

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Thu, 04/18/2024 - 01:07

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One of my favorite 1971 shows and a perfect example of “the sledgehammer approach”---loud, fast, bone crunching rock and roll, very edgy, skip the subtlety, fasten yer seatbelts and go directly to “pulverize”. Almost everything is a highlight, but things like Next Time You See Me, China/Rider, Truckin’ (check out the truly fierce playing by Garcia near the end), Hard To Handle, the crazed hyperkinetic Around & Around, and the massive Good Lovin’ stand out. If you like your rock and roll Grateful Dead style, this one’s for you! Highly highly recommended!

Rock and roll is the hamburger that ate the world......

Doc
I can't wait to crank this up on my way to work!!!!

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Submitted by bolo24 on Thu, 04/18/2024 - 15:47

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First concert I ever attended: Marshall Tucker Band and Allman Brothers. So began my personal long, strange trip

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 04/19/2024 - 10:28

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No my first concert, but I saw the brothers with and without Dickie Betts many times (although sadly not with Duane).

As for 4/28/71. One of the greats. Listened to 4/14/78 yesterday. Certainly not the best in the tour but put it all together and Spring 78 was sort of grate.

It's got to be Friday somewhere, so here's to that. Time to start acting like it's going to be a great weekend and hope the planets and stars align accordingly.

Edit: Wow, this is the first post that went through on the first try in a very long time.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 04/20/2024 - 09:19

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RIP Dickie Betts.

Hitting 6/10/73 from last year's glorious box in his honor.

Probably should mix in a E72 show at some point as well this weekend.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 04/20/2024 - 10:36

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Sixtus' birthday also, if my memory is correct. Good choice. I've only got one listen from that box. Fingers crossed that keeping this short get's it through.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Sat, 04/20/2024 - 11:02

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At least that 4th disc.
Saw Dickey with ABB twice.
Mile High ('74), Red Rocks ('89).
Cheers
Diggin' the That's All Right!

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Sun, 04/21/2024 - 01:47

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A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, there was RIA on 4/21/71. The force was with them. Or was it something in the water? Similar in tone to its hard rocking predecessor Cortland, but with “expanded content”, this is an underappreciated, quasi-classic that actually doesn’t get talked about a lot outside of “1971 aficionado circles”. Things get nicely weird early, five songs in they laid down the big jam sequence, followed by a wonderfully crunchy Hard To Handle. Things continue crunchy in set 2, with a non-drum solo Good Lovin’, a nice NFA suite, and an unusual two song encore which is sweet AND rocking. Highly recommended!

Rock on rockers!

Doc
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