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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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    Box me, Dave and Pals

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    Sensory overload....

    ....and I mean that in a good way and a bad way.
    First of all, I will say that the sound at Sphere is impeccable. It comes from all directions. Hard to explain really, but wow.
    The haptic seats were fun. Especially during drumz.
    The sensory overload begins when you enter the lobby and just ramps up from there.
    The screen? Jaw-dropping, but I will admit, by post-drumz it almost became too much. Hear me out. There is constant stimulation from all fronts for almost three hours. In your face, ears and body. I was a fan of the scenery shots though. Very cool. But I was numb by the end.
    Now. The band. First set was really, really good. I'll take a West LA, Bertha and a Jack Straw all day. Second set was average imo except for drumz.
    Long story short, the future is here re this building. I just don't know if I'm ready for it yet but I will say everyone should experience it at least once.
    No psychedelics for me. Two gummies.
    Also, ordered a double vodka mule. Fifty bucks. Shits expensive, but thats not just a Sphere thing really.
    The Dead Experience at the Venetian was pretty neat as well.
    Shifting gears, Trey Anastasio sat in with Billy Joel at MSG. 1st and 2nd place regarding number of times playing the Garden.
    I would say Trey being there counts as 1.

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    When I saw that heading, I thought it was brass resonator, misspelt. I got all excited, thinking we were moving on to guitars. In which area, a brass resonator is like a rolls royce.

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    Still have that very first head shop pipe purchase as P.T. describes. The thick red vinyl sleeved stem is gone and replaced with a handy reel seat from when I worked at the fly rod factory. Gorgeous wood I had saved for the rod I would build someday but never got around to. Leaves that brassy smell on your fingers from handling like sorting pennies. The resin chamber is basically your back-up bowl too. Gets little use since I started making exotic hardwood "flip-it" pipes in the '80s. The kind you fold up to cover the bowl. Tiny little orthodontic rubber bands attached to small brads nailed in the sides hold it closed or open. Very easy to make too! Stole the concept from a guy who did custom van interiors BITD (thanks Allen) and had lots of extra bits of wild looking hardwoods. Still my go to travel pipes. And all this talk of hash has me drooling. Haven't seen any out west here in 20 years or more. Can they sell it in recreational shops? Likely too much labor involved to be worth it? Or did shatter take its place?
    Cheers
    DMCVT: My 50th H.S. reunion is next year. Will anyone be recognizable I asked my buddy who went to the 10 and 20 with me. He said yes, and some of the ladies will be way hotter than we remember them, lol.

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    Maybe Monday will be box-day..

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    Not being preachy, but be careful with those silicone pipes. There is a difference between silicon and silicone.

    My company makes silicone based polymers, and those are some pretty heavy duty chemicals we use.

    I'll stick with metal or glass, even if I have to pay more.

    Peace

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    Back in the day (early 70's) these cats I knew snuck a 4 stem hookah into the Led Zepplin show at Tampa stadium. Talk about a trip, it turned into a community 50 yard line bowl for everybody who could muster up the lung power to hit it. It was crazy to see folks throwing in buds and chunks of hash into it. That was a fun show for sure. Orange Barrel and hash, what a rush.
    On the way home we had a bowl with a suction cup on the bottom of it and a long soft plastic tube coming from the bowl. Monster hits.
    Had a Chong bowl, but it was confiscated at a show, Foghat/Mountain if I recall correctly.
    My favorite bong was a little "glass head" that I had, about 9 inches tall with a shotgun hole and a removeable metal bowl with stem. Still have that one although the old copd lungs can't hit it anymore.
    Now I have two glass bowls that I use, one for use when the other is being cleaned. Works good and helps with what ails ya
    My very first bong was a plastic blue 24" thing that starting tasting nasty soon after it was lit. Things have really come a long way from those metal bowls we use to use, to the glass we get now. Remember you could add chambers to those old piece metal pipes, keep your smokables inside the chamber, gummed it up good for a head rush later.
    Ah memories, we shall enjoy them.

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    Holy Smokes, just returned from 50th college reunion and the conversation here? Pipes and Bongs. College where I first ran in to smoking in a chillum, pretty rough. Bongwater was horrible stuff... back in high school daze, we would tap stands of bamboo for the big ones near where I was, make our own bongs which became an art form... cured properly, they would last a good while, more durable than glass, much more pleasing than plastic, they were hand crafted and decorated. Lightweight for camping too. LiveDead, then Workingmans played often frosh year, poor roommates didn't know what hit them.

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    Gary and the 6' bong

    (sounds like a disney movie)

    We sold these at the store. One night a kid came in, he's holding it,,,, I repeat he is holding it. Ask me if he be able to light this by himself!?!

    I look and think you're holding it!!! Can you reach the bottom?

    But instead, I suggested one of them long bbq lighters.

    He smiled and said yeah,,, I'll take it!

    TN John,,, Bertha pipe cute, 120 bucks!

    For travel (which I don't use too much, since I don't go anywhere) those cheap silicon pipes with lids.

    They're like 10 bucks, flex in your pocket when you sit and if you leave screen out, doesn't show up on metal detector.

    We have a local gas blower who blows these very nice sherlocks. When I worked at the store I could get them for 10-15 bucks. We sold them at the store for 40. Big bowl, nice holding shape. Have about 6 extra in my sock draw.

    But I still have my little metal pipe from 1980,,,, great for hash!!! (hash and glass not so good together)

    Now the moment of truth,,,, will this go thru?

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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Look it up if you’ve never had it.
Best flavor and color out there.

50 arrived today, spinning CD1 now.

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Unlike others, I can’t watch hockey and listen at the same time as I run both audio and video through the same receiver.

The sound is good, but a bit muted. DaP49 jumped out of the speakers and really impressed me. It does get better as the show progresses.

So I would say this. It’s kinda like going on a cruise to the Bahamas for your 50th wedding anniversary. It’s fun and all, but really? I would have much rather preferred a trip to Bariloche.

Now we're talking. How many desert island shows can one take for two or three weeks in Patagonia?

I'm hoping we can meander our way through some of these show discussions passively. In the big picture, I learn a lot more from the bunch of you than I can possibly contribute myself. I was thinking about something this week, one of the things the Grateful Dead taught me. That it's ok, even preferred to not be like everyone else. We embrace individuality and are accepting of modest to generous amounts of weirdness. I mean who wants to be part of the moron majority anyway?

I really enjoy hearing from all of you and with a few exceptions no matter what you have to say. Full disclosure I do have a soft spot for many of the Jerry Ballads, but I love the rockers too. Yin and yang.

I was really sorry to read of his recent death. I was lucky enough to see him live twice about 10 years ago. Once in a beautiful converted cinema in little Yorkshire village called Holmfirth. His guitar playing was as great as I'd hoped, and he had one of the most engaging personalities I have ever witnessed from a performer. Genuine humility and warmth. One of the best shows I have ever seen. One where you come out taller than when you went in. I always hoped to be able to see him again.

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If I had only one show I could go to ,5/2/70 would be that show What a show!

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BTK - amen to that. I'd come along with you!
Not long ago, if anyone demonstrated any kind of discernment between years or eras, they would b referred to on here as a "picky Deadhead". It was as though you weren't considered part of the gang if you didn't like everything.

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Gentlemen:

Stop being such bad boys and take those Harper College comments to the Pick Of The Day thread, that kind of input is NOT welcome here!!!

I don't say we all ought to misbehave, but we ought to look as if we could......

Rock on,

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Had to get the ears tested... kidding, but it was time and no, I did not think you were trolling on audio fidelity. Just glad I can still hear cymbals. Phil and Friends birthday at the Cap was about at my current limit for live decibels. At home, crank it up to low 90s peaks in celebrations, monitoring with my trusty Radio Shack meter, careful with that cochlea Eugene. Started off with the bonus disc of course, at volume... this is the joy, this is the glory of the remastering, making it easy to listen loud comfortably, experience the timbre of Phil's bass, crisp cymbal work and detail that is barely discernable on the mid fi downloads.

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Recordings of Harpur College have been around since the dawn of time. It has a well deserved reputation as classic due to the intense, exceptional music they played that night. Everybody should have a copy...........

With that being said, I actually prefer the Fillmore East show of May 15, 1970. Not sure why, probably because I was constantly dropped on my head as a child.........

Contrary to some self-serving reports, I am okay and strong, I have not hit rock bottom.......

Doc
But I'm working on it......

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5 3 77 Have 2 listens in, one loud, one not.
Status quo Beatty beauty sonically, especially now I finally have my room treated etc to tame the sledgehammer bass/drums of this era.

More mellow than you’d expect, in a good way, like 76.
More clams than you’d think too. Not terrible, just not full on supermodel flawless. Pretty noticeable one in LL/Sup, and I love how in Sugaree after almost getting out of sync around six minute, they pull back, regroup, then patiently build up where eventually your like and Holly crap from then on! I think that’s what I like about this “time”, like Fivebranch said, it’s wave music. It just slowly ebbs and flows, and when their patient and together it can be quite spectacular.
I’ve been checking out some of the previous nights and kept coming back to what FB said! Wave music!
I’ll have to hear more, and not really being a 77 guy, hesitate to compare, but I’d say I like better than 45 but maybe not as much as 41, and it won’t replace my current 77 fav go tos on the rare occasion I go 77.
But as always, I’m totally enjoying it and all the hard work that went into it, even if it’s not what “I” would have preferred.
I’m glad so many others are really digging it!
Onward! On to 5 4 dot dot dot

Hey, glad I could help DMCVT ; ) and glad you didn’t think I was messin with ya.
I’ve always taken hearing very seriously, perhaps why I still can lol.

In the Space track noticed a very brief Crazy Fingers tease, and at the end, it sounded like Jerry stumbled upon There's a Doctor I've Found from The Who's Tommy, one of the shortest ditties on that double album. Also, at the end of that Sugaree crescendo, around 11 and a half min, it sounds like Bob stumbles upon Walk On the Wild Side and plays with that a few times, not quite the same take on that part he does more often. Or so it seemed. Still digging this one. Though, in the car it was not as loud as on the stereo. And the downgrade to mp3 may have helped that hum, hasn't bothered me in the car.

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What's good about Harpur? That's like asking what's good about bacon. Um, everything?

But seriously. It starts with one of the great acoustic sets ever. Listen to the Garcia's vocals on Rider and tell me this isn't a special night. A great example of a show where the exchange of energy between band and audience just sent the music through the roof. Listen to the jam out of Good Loving just for instance. Great audience riffs. (Hence my header here.) The whole thing has wabi-sabi: feedback shrieks that seem to add to the energy, sections of wobbly rhythm that suddenly lock into hyperdrive. A killer closing sequence of Dew into Viola Lee.

Anyway, glad you brought it up. One of my all time favorite shows, and yet I hadn't listened to it in years. (So much music, so little time,) Sure would like to see this one get the vinyl remaster reissue treatment.

Still haven't cracked the seal on 50. Not sure what's up with that.

Crow - a remastered version of this show did actually get released on Brookvale Records in 2017. Although the acoustic set is in stereo, the electric is still in mono - but it's still a monster. The record also includes "Cold Rain and Snow", which wasn't featured on the cd. It's nothing to write home about, to be honest. But I am definitely in the camp that says this show is one of the all time greats.

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First listen, tonight. Bonus disk looks good. Listening to "the guess who" pain train. Pretty groovy song. Nice little jam at end.

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Harpur was my gateway into Dicks Picks... which led to investigating the previous 7 and so it dawned upon me, I was back on the bus after a near ten year hiatus. Oro, just kidding about trolling, your comments on re-release formats etc. I know you know audio very well, it continues to please me upon first listens, how lucky we are to have 98% of the music retrievable and upgraded from proverbial bygone eras. Do seem to find a slight 2-3db bump up in the EQ for mid bass, notable with Phil and kick drum, but earhaps that's the best they could do given 18/24db slopes. We are good for 1977, so where's that primal grease box announcement?

Looking good!

First listen underway. So far so good. Really good sound quality as expected.

Yes, when is that box news coming? I am ready.

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Thank you guys for articulating some...

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Psuq my wiggly diq

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L a m e af

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Go die

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You are communicating that you dont want my money

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The Hey Now creator needs to get punched in the nose

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Angering your customers is a bad idea

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I hope you get syphilis

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In the long run all this doesnt matter anyway

But if I could I would bash your knees with a bat

Several times

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07/30/66
Early primal DEAD!!

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That is also early primal me.
That's the day I was born. Lol
Peace

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Damn Hey Now
Peace

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...has just arrived. That was a very fast Atlantic Crossing!
And perfect timing too, May 3rd!!
What a beautiful day!
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You'll find this, and more, on the expanded version of the band's first album. Would have loved to have been there. This is actually from 7/29/1966, not 7/30. My favorite extra treat on remastered issues, right up there with American Beauty reissue extra treat.. Incredible Baby Blue

...Did you hear what I just heard?...yes, heard that tease on the 1st listen and did a double-take, whaaat was that...

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My birthday too.
I was 9 that year.
Listening to Good Lovin' on an AM radio.
But it was The Rascals.
Cheers

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That's cool as shit man!
I've met 2 other people in my life with my birthday, and one of them was actually born the same day as me.
Peace

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TN and 1stshow. I was born 30th July 1955. Those of us across the pond will remember my 11th birthday as the day England won the football world football Cup........the roundball version....oh and up the mighty Wolves

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Nice!
Too bad we can't all get together this July.
Peace

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Fix the glitch

They obviously deleted Marye

So unnecessarily lame

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You took the words right out of my mouth

What a clusterfluck

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....can you hear us. Hear us if you please.

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