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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of 5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire," "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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June 6, 2024 - 1:36pm

#711

ronmarley1

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Serendipity?

Went out twice today. First time in the AM, Hawaii ‘70 was on the Sirius channel. After noon, Alaska ‘80 was on.
It’s an odd pairing for a box, but I’ll probable be in.
June 6, 2024 - 1:33pm

#712

Gary Farseer

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Boxin Phish

I am up for 9/20/1970 also. Still hopin box will be more of October 1974 Winterland.

Read an article of the first person banned from the Sphere; band from the Sphere, wow. It is a Phish fan who was the first person to rip a bong and immediately post it on line. It was on 4/20, go figure. What was ban for, pulling a tube or posting online. I am sure at least 100,000 have smoked in the Sphere, probably way more than that.
June 6, 2024 - 8:33am

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billy the kiddd

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9/20/70

I'm all in, I've been banging the drum for this one for years.
June 6, 2024 - 8:20am

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Gary Farseer

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alvarhanso

I was recruited hard by rjr after graduating from wake forest.

Interesting thing about Winston-Salem, is the speed of the town. I grew up in a town where everyone drives 5-10 mph above speed limit. This has grown immensely worse as we've had and continue to have massive explosion of foreigners (people from other states) move here because of the job creating machine/region where I live. These people from the northeast and west work hard to weave and race through traffic. In Winston-Salem with all that old deep tobacco money, everyone drove 5 mph below the speed limit. Made me even calm down and leave an extra 5-10 early minutes to get where I was going. Love Winston-Salem.

Now, I get in the right lane, hit cruise control at the designated speed limit and wait to be a witness of a major accident. I almost killed a motorcyclist a few years back. Checked mirrors and blind spot and then proceeded to change lanes, as I started to change lanes a motorcyclist flew by me doing over an 100 mph. All of a sudden hear a loud whining sound and he was by me before I could even adjust. Startled the crap out of me.

Moral of this stupid story is politicians need to stop growth agenda until infrastructure investments made.

Sometimes the life expectancy of older folks is longer than younger folks.
June 6, 2024 - 6:49am

#715

Oroborous

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Sad but true Alvar

Scary, horrible shit!
And if that doesn’t scare ya, start looking into why the government subsidies the sugar industry so much…
June 6, 2024 - 6:14am

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JimInMD

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9/20

I'd buy this one in a New York minute.

Enjoyed your post Alvarhanso, there's a lot there I did not know.

I guess it is box time. Let the drum roll begin. Bananas.

Lastly, remembering D Day on it's 80th. What a crazy world we live in.
June 6, 2024 - 4:46am

#717

Forensicdoceleven

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Music is well said to be the speech of angels.....

Yo, rockers!!!

Danehead-

Based solely on what I've heard---and remember, my hearing is a little damaged from 50 years of high volume rock and roll----the 6/12 show will require some tweaking to get it release worthy. The 13th---if the entire recording is as i heard---will probably not require a lot of tweaking..............

Speaking of tweaking the music----the big elephant in the room (and there's so many lol) is 9/20/70. The acoustic set---maybe the best, most interesting acoustic set they ever played (hey, where else are you going to hear an acoustic Truckin' and maybe the best New Speedway ever)---would require minimal tweaking.

However, on every version I've heard (and I've heard tons) there's some issues with the electric set. I'm not a techie so I can't put that into better terms. The most recent version I heard----from the GEMS network---is pretty good, but there's still......that issue. Even so, I bet most folks would accept it as an official release.

As long as the phantasmagorical Dark Star suite from the 19th was the bonus disc............

Naturally, all just one man's opinion, and remember to check out Corvallis.......

Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness.......

Rock on!

Doc
If the king loves music, there is little wrong in the land......
June 6, 2024 - 4:17am

#718

uncle_tripel

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If...

it comes in a box...get your hands out of it.

my long-distance runner comes home for spring-break and announces to my wife and I that there is NOTHING to eat in this house, ONLY ingredients. sorry bud, and that's the way it will stay.

thnx alvarhanso for the reminder

stay well everyone!
June 5, 2024 - 11:16pm

#719

billy the kiddd

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6/5/69 Fillmore West

This would be a great release, as a one off or part of a bigger box set.
June 5, 2024 - 9:43pm

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alvarhanso

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Re: Sudden Burst of Flavor

As a child of the 80s, I trust Jim's statement of blandness in tastes until the mid-80s, partly because I read an astounding article about the role of the tobacco companies in the changes in diet and unhealthiness over the last 40 years or so. Why would tobacco companies have anything to do with that? Well, RJR at that time owned Nabisco and Philip Morris bought Kraft Foods. More terrifying is that the tobacco companies do not view themselves as tobacco companies, rather as flavor companies. They spent millions and millions on making the best tasting cigarettes and flavor additives to food. Flavor became the big thing, and these "flavor companies" created all the stuff that is killing us in new and fascinating ways. They created the Snackwells as a "healthy sweet snack", and they became an unfortunate phenomenon, selling out everywhere as people ate them by the boxload, believing mass consumption of something "healthy" would be extra healthy. Instead diabetes rates skyrocketed. Flavor additives literally make us crave foods, like smokers craving a cigarette, not just from the nicotine.

I grew up in Winston-Salem, NC, heart of tobacco country, with RJR headquartered there for well over a century, and descended from tobacco farmers. In 2nd grade we took a field trip to the RJR/Nabisco headquarters. In the lobby, they asked for a show of hands of all those whose parents smoked. A large portion of us raised our hands, and to each of us was given an experimental black pack of Winstons, which was the cancer stick of choice for both my parents. I didn't think much of it at the time, partly because at the end of the tour, we got to choose our favorite Nabisco cookie or cracker. I was all about the Fig Newtons. I wonder if I would have liked Fig Newtons 10 years earlier?

Oh, and this reminds me of the anti-MSG campaigns of the late-80s-90s, and how an irony of the Popeye's Chicken Sandwich craze from a few years ago was that their chicken sandwich, which is, in fact, the best tasting chicken sandwich I've ever had, is loaded with MSG. No wonder they call it Make So Good. But also, terrifying. Even more terrifying is how actually eating healthier is even more expensive at the grocery store. Sorry, for the weird rabbit hole dive...

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of 5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire," "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

Blue Moon ice cream

Look it up if you’ve never had it.
Best flavor and color out there.

50 arrived today, spinning CD1 now.

So I finally had a listen

Unlike others, I can’t watch hockey and listen at the same time as I run both audio and video through the same receiver.

The sound is good, but a bit muted. DaP49 jumped out of the speakers and really impressed me. It does get better as the show progresses.

So I would say this. It’s kinda like going on a cruise to the Bahamas for your 50th wedding anniversary. It’s fun and all, but really? I would have much rather preferred a trip to Bariloche.

Bariloche

Now we're talking. How many desert island shows can one take for two or three weeks in Patagonia?

I'm hoping we can meander our way through some of these show discussions passively. In the big picture, I learn a lot more from the bunch of you than I can possibly contribute myself. I was thinking about something this week, one of the things the Grateful Dead taught me. That it's ok, even preferred to not be like everyone else. We embrace individuality and are accepting of modest to generous amounts of weirdness. I mean who wants to be part of the moron majority anyway?

I really enjoy hearing from all of you and with a few exceptions no matter what you have to say. Full disclosure I do have a soft spot for many of the Jerry Ballads, but I love the rockers too. Yin and yang.

RIP Duane Eddy indeed

Another one gone

Duane Eddy

I was really sorry to read of his recent death. I was lucky enough to see him live twice about 10 years ago. Once in a beautiful converted cinema in little Yorkshire village called Holmfirth. His guitar playing was as great as I'd hoped, and he had one of the most engaging personalities I have ever witnessed from a performer. Genuine humility and warmth. One of the best shows I have ever seen. One where you come out taller than when you went in. I always hoped to be able to see him again.

5/2/70

If I had only one show I could go to ,5/2/70 would be that show What a show!

5/2/70

BTK - amen to that. I'd come along with you!
Not long ago, if anyone demonstrated any kind of discernment between years or eras, they would b referred to on here as a "picky Deadhead". It was as though you weren't considered part of the gang if you didn't like everything.

Most human beings, there's a spectrum of bad behavior......

Gentlemen:

Stop being such bad boys and take those Harper College comments to the Pick Of The Day thread, that kind of input is NOT welcome here!!!

I don't say we all ought to misbehave, but we ought to look as if we could......

Rock on,

Doc
It seems that when you get to a certain age you almost give yourself permission to misbehave and say what you think. People allow it, with very old people......

Asking for it...

Why does everyone love Harpur College so much?

I'm missing something i think...

Happy Harpur Day

God Bless the Grateful Dead

Have you experienced Harpur Joey?

That's it for the other one

Viola lee blues

And a whole lot more

Check it out

You'll be glad you did

I have, I'll check it out…

I have, I'll check it out again...

because of you, Oro!

Had to get the ears tested... kidding, but it was time and no, I did not think you were trolling on audio fidelity. Just glad I can still hear cymbals. Phil and Friends birthday at the Cap was about at my current limit for live decibels. At home, crank it up to low 90s peaks in celebrations, monitoring with my trusty Radio Shack meter, careful with that cochlea Eugene. Started off with the bonus disc of course, at volume... this is the joy, this is the glory of the remastering, making it easy to listen loud comfortably, experience the timbre of Phil's bass, crisp cymbal work and detail that is barely discernable on the mid fi downloads.

Ground not upon dreams; you know they are ever contrary....

Recordings of Harpur College have been around since the dawn of time. It has a well deserved reputation as classic due to the intense, exceptional music they played that night. Everybody should have a copy...........

With that being said, I actually prefer the Fillmore East show of May 15, 1970. Not sure why, probably because I was constantly dropped on my head as a child.........

Contrary to some self-serving reports, I am okay and strong, I have not hit rock bottom.......

Doc
But I'm working on it......

5 15 70

Another phenomenal show

Super model without makeup?

5 3 77 Have 2 listens in, one loud, one not.
Status quo Beatty beauty sonically, especially now I finally have my room treated etc to tame the sledgehammer bass/drums of this era.

More mellow than you’d expect, in a good way, like 76.
More clams than you’d think too. Not terrible, just not full on supermodel flawless. Pretty noticeable one in LL/Sup, and I love how in Sugaree after almost getting out of sync around six minute, they pull back, regroup, then patiently build up where eventually your like and Holly crap from then on! I think that’s what I like about this “time”, like Fivebranch said, it’s wave music. It just slowly ebbs and flows, and when their patient and together it can be quite spectacular.
I’ve been checking out some of the previous nights and kept coming back to what FB said! Wave music!
I’ll have to hear more, and not really being a 77 guy, hesitate to compare, but I’d say I like better than 45 but maybe not as much as 41, and it won’t replace my current 77 fav go tos on the rare occasion I go 77.
But as always, I’m totally enjoying it and all the hard work that went into it, even if it’s not what “I” would have preferred.
I’m glad so many others are really digging it!
Onward! On to 5 4 dot dot dot

Hey, glad I could help DMCVT ; ) and glad you didn’t think I was messin with ya.
I’ve always taken hearing very seriously, perhaps why I still can lol.

There's a Crazy Doctor I've Found

In the Space track noticed a very brief Crazy Fingers tease, and at the end, it sounded like Jerry stumbled upon There's a Doctor I've Found from The Who's Tommy, one of the shortest ditties on that double album. Also, at the end of that Sugaree crescendo, around 11 and a half min, it sounds like Bob stumbles upon Walk On the Wild Side and plays with that a few times, not quite the same take on that part he does more often. Or so it seemed. Still digging this one. Though, in the car it was not as loud as on the stereo. And the downgrade to mp3 may have helped that hum, hasn't bothered me in the car.

You People Need to Act Like a Mature Responsible Audience

What's good about Harpur? That's like asking what's good about bacon. Um, everything?

But seriously. It starts with one of the great acoustic sets ever. Listen to the Garcia's vocals on Rider and tell me this isn't a special night. A great example of a show where the exchange of energy between band and audience just sent the music through the roof. Listen to the jam out of Good Loving just for instance. Great audience riffs. (Hence my header here.) The whole thing has wabi-sabi: feedback shrieks that seem to add to the energy, sections of wobbly rhythm that suddenly lock into hyperdrive. A killer closing sequence of Dew into Viola Lee.

Anyway, glad you brought it up. One of my all time favorite shows, and yet I hadn't listened to it in years. (So much music, so little time,) Sure would like to see this one get the vinyl remaster reissue treatment.

Still haven't cracked the seal on 50. Not sure what's up with that.

2/5/70-vinyl

Crow - a remastered version of this show did actually get released on Brookvale Records in 2017. Although the acoustic set is in stereo, the electric is still in mono - but it's still a monster. The record also includes "Cold Rain and Snow", which wasn't featured on the cd. It's nothing to write home about, to be honest. But I am definitely in the camp that says this show is one of the all time greats.

Harpur College.....

....currently streaming it @ work.
Top shelf? Resounding yes!

#9764

First listen, tonight. Bonus disk looks good. Listening to "the guess who" pain train. Pretty groovy song. Nice little jam at end.

Harpur & cochlear Oro

Harpur was my gateway into Dicks Picks... which led to investigating the previous 7 and so it dawned upon me, I was back on the bus after a near ten year hiatus. Oro, just kidding about trolling, your comments on re-release formats etc. I know you know audio very well, it continues to please me upon first listens, how lucky we are to have 98% of the music retrievable and upgraded from proverbial bygone eras. Do seem to find a slight 2-3db bump up in the EQ for mid bass, notable with Phil and kick drum, but earhaps that's the best they could do given 18/24db slopes. We are good for 1977, so where's that primal grease box announcement?

Half Assed 77 Thread

Looking good!

First listen underway. So far so good. Really good sound quality as expected.

Yes, when is that box news coming? I am ready.

5/2

Thank you guys for articulating some...

Hey now

Psuq my wiggly diq

Hey now

L a m e af

Hey now

Go die

Hey now

You are communicating that you dont want my money

Hey now

The Hey Now creator needs to get punched in the nose

Hey now

Angering your customers is a bad idea

Hey now

I hope you get syphilis

Hey now

In the long run all this doesnt matter anyway

But if I could I would bash your knees with a bat

Several times

JOTW

07/30/66
Early primal DEAD!!

7/30/66

That is also early primal me.
That's the day I was born. Lol
Peace

Double Post

Damn Hey Now
Peace

#8877

...has just arrived. That was a very fast Atlantic Crossing!
And perfect timing too, May 3rd!!
What a beautiful day!
Cheers
G.
Is the HN-Police with me?

JOTM

You'll find this, and more, on the expanded version of the band's first album. Would have loved to have been there. This is actually from 7/29/1966, not 7/30. My favorite extra treat on remastered issues, right up there with American Beauty reissue extra treat.. Incredible Baby Blue

So unnecessarily lame

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