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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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  • wharfrat6969
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    Gots to be 69' Box

    Illogical for it to be anything else.

    Wanna move product? Look how fast 73' sold.

  • proudfoot
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    Preach, Crow!

    We do need more stuff from the 60s.

  • Crow Told Me
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    Tell You What I Want, What I Really Really Want

    Is for those shows from the Ark in 1969 to finally get released. Don't care if it's in a box set, or a DaP, or what, but them shows need to be OUT. Iconic performances, good sound, Come on, Dave! What's the holdup, maaaaan?

    I ain't a-scared of no AI. Those guys can't even tell the difference between a crosswalk and a motorbike.

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    Dan who?

    Ah. Steely Dan.

  • Vguy72
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    Trey finally covered The Dan!....

    ....look it up.

  • proudfoot
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    I say

    11 23 79
    6 22 83

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    I concur

    BluRay 4k is like the Lorax and the Thneeds. I have a high-def player I bought with the two concert high-def DVD's made at the same time. Exactly six hours later, BluRay came out and it crapped all over my high def party. Right now, they will only play in my 1958 Ford Edsel (which can also play my Betamax Grateful Dead Movie). With digital technology where it is and storage as cheap as it is.. is it really that hard to standardize the exactly perfect technology and do it in such a way that the manufacturers and music industry fall in line? Perhaps that's a heavy lift.

    As Proudfoot would say, grumplestillskin I am. Rant over, actually not grumpy but I get what y'all are saying.

    On a side tangent, enjoy having gfar back in the mix. Gone for a bit but back again. Enjoying all the banter, especially from old friends.

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    Of course I would buy it.

    I was amazed years ago when I got my first Blu-ray player and it made my GD DVD’s look better compared to my DVD player.
    My 4K UHD player is supposed to up convert Blu-ray but I haven’t tried it yet. I actually still use my older Onkyo Blu-ray player which is part of an Onkyo 5.1 surround system.
    I bought the Panasonic 4K UHD player because the price was slashed due to it not having Bluetooth.
    Funny though, the menu screen is super basic, similar to early DVD players.

    I need to check my VFTV DVD’s on the Panasonic to see if they work. Maybe Jonathan discovered that old DVD audio formats aren’t supported by modern players.

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    Dave when you retire

    Hire Billytk as your successor

    Big ol' box set o" GD69!!!!!!

    as said by MPFC,

    "GET ON WITH IT!!!"

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    Gary - you know more than me about all this. I didn't know that you needed a bigger screen to get full advantage of 4K 8K etc. I think I need a bigger house. One without a neighbour attached.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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My current turntable came with one that screws onto the threaded spindle in the middle of the platter. I always used one on my previous turntable too. The idea is to stop an unclamped LP resonating, thereby affecting the sound quality. How good are your ears?

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not a comedy team... stabilizers can also help in some cases flatten vinyl warps as they fix the lp to the table and are reputed to help reduce wow and flutter by adding mass

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The first signs of old age. Have you ever seen a deadhead dance with a cane? the three legged stomp. prefer a cane over a walker, more sophisticated and looks a bit more "cool", if being older can be cool. Freak flag flying, just a bit tattered and weathered.

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Added weight can stress out old motors but the theory seems logical. Seems a bit of overkill to me.
Cheers
Old Folks Boogie - Wheelchairs locked arm in arm
And WTF does this date have to do with Star Wars other than a ridiculously bad pun?

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I've never used a stabilizer. I do think it's worthwhile to get a decent turntable mat, which will serve the same purpose, costs less, and is less of a hassle. If you happen to be one of those people who just kind of enjoys the ritual of playing vinyl and doesn't mind adding an extra step that is unlikely to produce an audible difference in your listening experience, then don't let me stop you.

Funny, but until Doc posted something about 5.15.70 in the recent discussion of Harpur's, it had never dawned on me that those gigs were less than two weeks apart. No wonder Vol 3 No 3 is my favorite Road Trip.

Waiting on the new Kamasi album, which drops today and should arrive this afternoon via the Bezos minions. Got tickets to see him in a couple weeks and very much looking forward to checking out the new material.

Strange music-related experience with my mom yesterday. She has dementia and can't remember shit anymore. Suddenly apropos of nothing she starts talking about music, describing a concert she went to at some point (must've been years and years ago). She can't remember where it was or who played but she's describing the music in great detail, humming melodies and saying what instrument played what part. And it's so detailed that after a minute I can identify what piece she's talking about: it's Piano Concerto No. 2 by Rachmaninoff. So I cued it up. "Yes, yes, that's it!" she said. And we listened to the whole thing.

Music is a freaking miracule, my friends. Never forget it.

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Had to look it up.
Skeptical.
Maybe for old warped vinyl.
I bought 140 g LP’s a few months ago that were warped when brand new out of the wrapper. They would need a brick to flatten them. But they still played.
All the 180 g LP’s I’ve gotten were flat, and the center hole so small that the LP has to be pushed down onto the spindle, which holds them tight.

If tone arm weight and anti-skate are set correctly the stylus should track the groove without issue. If the turntable doesn’t have those adjustments then maybe a stabilizer might offer a benefit.

be with you indeed

Love the anecdote about your mother, Crowtoldme.

I used to work with old folks with dementia. What they had for breakfast that day was a mystery, but could belt out the old tunes.

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...the old wharfedale's W60D speakers crankin' (wife's grand-dad had purchased in the late 60's then passed-on by her mom)
2024 BONUS, freaking SWEET!

awesome story by crow told me about your mom and the power of the tunes!!!

Peace All!
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There's already some 50's with bonus disc up for auction you know where.
Used and sealed.
Peace

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....the original Star Wars trilogy John Williams soundtracks I bought on CD back in 1997 (?!).
Holographic cds are tight!
Replaying the video in my head. Got that shit memorized.
Haven't busted them out in ages. Came with external sleeves. The New Hope one is missing. Now it's bugging me.

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Is some of my favorite classical stuff. Can't beat John Williams! Dances With Wolves has a great soundtrack. (John Barry)
Wishing Mom well Crow, what a moving story! It is a freaking miracle.
Cheers

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Satisfactory

I will save disc 3 for another time

When you get done with 50 check out 11/24/79

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2024 Bonus Extra Disc Day! On replay,... Today.... All day!
Amazing Dave's Pick too! #50 was worth all the hype and no disappointment here! Jammed that pick extensively yesterday, and been making an insane amount of new playlists and adding to older ones. Thank's Dave for always putting in that extra 'killer' filler. Between the 2024 Bonus disc and the #50 filler I've got enough of 5/4 to blend into a playlist with all the Pittsburgh 1978 filler from Dave's #37. Phenomenal! Peace!

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For 51

11 19 72 (good luck, PF)
11 26 72

69
68
70
67
66

In the immortal words of Black Flag

Gimme gimme gimme

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May 4th
1972
A very good guess for 51, 6/22/91.

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....for the record.
Plopped in the 50 bonus. Got some rumchata, a gummy and game seven hockey. I'm good.
I'm rooting for Toronto. Because I know the Cowboy Junkies are somewhere pacing.
Another game seven tomorrow.
I'll take up the pacing reigns then.

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This Brown Cow Hey Joe crap has gotten ridiculous.

Every now and again we all have something pertinent and sometimes important to say and it seems only negativity gets through.

I'm beginning to think an evil empire rules the roost here. They have no empathy and care not about what one should care about.

Cut out the Hey_Now_Brown_Cow bullshit Rhino. Seriously, are you that tone deaf?

Would love to see them release it, but it was the MUATM release last year, so it probably won't be a Dave's Picks.

Looking forward to this year's MUATM show. What will it be?

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....ooh, ooh Mr Kotter. I hope it's the second night of the '89 Cal Expo run. We were close to the stage that evening.
It could be my fifteen minutes of fame! You all could see my stupid grinning ass face!

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Just pathetic.

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Person responsible for Hey now crud I would smash your hands with a sledgehammer if I could

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They are tone deaf and completely oblivious

Foo kem with a chainsaw

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Oh yes, that would be great. I am thinking they would make an announcement this month.

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Crispy critter

Would make a great Daves

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Listening to shows either side of the 50th I am struck by how musical Keith's piano playing still was at this time. Really adds to it. He seemed to get a bit more ham fisted from Fall 77 on through 1978.

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1) 1/2 Step is sort of a mess to start out with and I'm not speaking simply about the level issues. Previously circulating SBD cut half way through inaudible 1st verse with a gap up to the second chorus. In this release I think the audible second half of the 1st verse is patched in from another show. The second verse is flat out missing (no patch). The legit second chorus is brought in after patched in partial 1st verse as if it was the 1st chorus. Gotta say though that the real 1/2 Step > Big River opener had to be killer. Edit - now I'm wondering if decision to omit patch for second verse had to do with available space on CD, which if so is sort of out there considering.
2) there is a reel change/tape gap in Playing Reprise which appears to be patched with SBD from another (unknown) show for about 30 seconds. Ever so slightly noticeable on headphones given how gorgeous that Playing > Comes A Time > Playing is.

Despite these rough spots there is a whole lot of beautiful music on this release.

Edit (another) - not sure if its been mentioned here but the cat on DaP 49 and DaP 50 is Dave's cat Ziggy. Also my theory is that the tagger on the Bonus Disc is a time traveling young Dave L.

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Listened twice, once with headphones and then with the big (no name brands allowed, hey now) speakers. Phil really came through on those big boys.
The show itself, especially the first set, was ordinary. The tempo remained moderate throughout, almost like they were rehearsing. That stand alone Good Lovin' seemed odd.
The second set starts out a little livelier, and the energy gets kicked up a notch toward the end of Sugaree. Two faves were Samson and Wharf Rat. A solid UJB ends the night on a high note. B+
I suspect 5/4 will be the better of the two, based on all the raves about the bonus disc.

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78

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The actual 50th is 5 4 77 which cant be released as a full show

5 3 is the bonus

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Your boys folded. Up 2-0.

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Happy 93rd birthday to the Say Hey Kid, the greatest baseball player of all time. I was fortunate enough to see Willie play several times back in the Sixties at Candlestick Park, even saw him hit a home run.

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Yes I agree that Spring '78 is overshadowed because of Spring 77. Now the thing about 5/5/78 to me is I have never ever found a SBD of the 1st set during my 22 year run of tape trading now the 2nd set was readily available but that 1st set was never located in tape form.

Now about 5/6 I have to say that 5/6/81 is by far my all time favorite show from the 80's I can only imagine what being there was like. Just for the coolness factor I still to this day have both sets of 5/6/78 on tape just because 5678 is a cool date. Just when are TPTB making that boxset announcement anyway?
As always PLAY DEAD PLAY DEAD LOUD!!

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... Willie Mays, you da Man!
yup, got to see my 2 all-time fav major leaguers (Mays & Allen) on may 18 1969 @ Connie Mack Stadium (1st ever MLB game)...
Say Hey pinch hit and got intentionally walked, and saw Bobby Bonds & Willie McCovey play with Juan Marichal pitching
Richie Allen had a couple of hits and 2 rbi's

what a different game, baseball was back then

BILLYTHEKIDDD (ty man for bringing back those memories)

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....let's just say the goony birds were plentiful. If you toured in the late 80's, you know what I'm talking about.

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Unfortunately, another bird that is on the endangered species list.

I have #50 in hand. Hopefully tonight I will go through my quarterly ritual of ripping the CDs to file, reading the liner notes and relaxing with front row seats (in my mind) to my favorite band.

I am told we are creatures of habit. This falls into the good habit list.

Hope you all are having a good start to the week.

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You betcha I do! I was however a tad more interested in the purple pyramids

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always on the good habits list for this date,
y'all know it,
some might not agree on it's place in GOGD history,
but since it's good habits were talking about, my good habit is always...ithaca '77...on may 8th
and thanks betty!
because celebrating in front of the board [which is always in my house, and just in my mind] with another b-day.

this afternoon's celebration includes PLAY DEAD LOUD with grilled filet, belgian tripel, crabcakes, homemade fries, and additional cheer is always welcome
Cheers All!

Peace today and everyday for all!
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