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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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  • That Mike
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    Hey Jack! Nice to be back, I missed the chats. Like most, I got bogged down in “ I Got Dem Ol' Hey Now Blues Again Mama!” (a nod to the Festival Express), plus we had our home up for sale. For anyone that wants to test the strength of their relationship with their loved one, try selling your house. I recommend a pack of matches or “Mobster lightning” instead - way easier. Agreed with you 100% on my Leafs - disaster - and McDavid - remarkable.
    Simonrob mentions the FBB release from the Avalon recorded by Owsley - it is remarkable sound, gets a fair bit of airplay here (big Gram/Burrito fan), and the Dead recordings from the same shows must be remarkable, and deserve to see daylight.

  • simonrob
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    As Billy the Kiddd said, the Flying Burrito Brothers opened for the Grateful Dead on April 4, 5 & 6, 1969 at the Avalon Ballroom. The Burrito's sets from April 4 & 6 were released in 2007 as a 2CD set by Amoeba Records titled "Gram Parsons with The Flying Burrito Brothers - Archives Volume One - Live at the Avalon Ballroom 1969". One CD has the set from April 4, the other CD has the April 6 set. In the liner notes it details how the tapes were recorded by Owsley and were in the Grateful Dead Vault. Bear allowed them to be released as part of a deal with David Grisman as Bear wanted to release to Old and in the Way tapes. David L found the tapes in the vault and so they were finally released. It is still available from Amoeba at a lower price than from Amazon.
    From this, one has to conclude that Bear also recorded the three Dead shows from that run and that they are most likely in the GD Vault rather than in Bear's stash of tapes, but who knows? David L knows for sure. I haven't heard the Dead shows but apparently they are excellent and they are from 1969! Nothing more needs to be said except "Release them".

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    Anticipation

    When you don't know what the next box is there is a sense of anticipation for what it might be. When you do know, there is a sense of disappointment for what it isn't.
    Or can be.

  • Crow Told Me
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    It occurs to me that, as long as we don't know what's in the box, the contents can be BOTH exactly what we want it to be and NOT what we want as the same time. It's all about quantum superpositions, so dig it. Or don't. It's all a dream we dreamed anyway.

    I always felt kinda sorry for that cat, though. Just let her outta the box already.

  • proudfoot
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    I am checking out 8 4 89

    Kinda meh

    Not BAD, but...assembly line-ish

    Not much X factor

    But I try....

  • JimInMD
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    I'm all in.

    Thanks man.. for just being yourself.

  • billy the kiddd
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    Jim, the Flying Burrito Brothers opened for the Grateful Dead on April 4,5, & 6, 1969 at the Avalon Ballroom.. Lets hope that's the next box set.

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    Lot's of respect to Graham Parsons. A big influence on me and one of the ones where you wonder what could have been.

    RIP to Donald Sutherland. "the closest distance between two points is a straight line" "in the opposite direction"
    My parents took me to that movie (not sure why), it was my first R rated movie and I was certainly underage at the time. God love em.. they meant well, they just fell a little short and that specific decision explains all my shortcomings in life. (it was totally worth it)

    So what does all this have to do with new box set announcement?

    Did the Flying Burrito Brothers ever play with the Grateful Dead? Not sure but if they ever did that must be the next release.

    Edit: Now that I think of it, they were on the Festival Express together, right? I'd be in for a few full show releases from that tour.

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    Glad to see that you’re back. I’ve been absent myself for a little while here.

    The Oilers have come to life thanks to McDavid. In the last two games, he’s made professional hockey players look foolish. What an unbelievable talent.

    Thanks for the heads up on Gram Parsons. I’ve been listening to Return of the Grievous Angel recently. A Song for You covered by Whiskeytown one of my all-time favorites.

    I grew up a Mets fan because of my grandfather. He was clearly past his prime, but I was elated when Willie Mays was traded to the Mets. I still remember Mays pleading with the umpire that Bud Harrelson was safe at home plate in the 1973 World Series. Pure talent and an even better person.

    DS. I agree with Alvo. He perfected the character of Hawkeye Pierce that Alan Alda ultimately ruined. I loved him as Dave Jennings in Animal House. Confident and understated with the perfect delivery.

    “Don’t write this down, but I find Milton probably as boring as you find Milton. Mrs. Milton found him boring too. He’s a bit long-winded, he doesn’t translate very well into our generation, and the jokes are terrible.”

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    There's a 2 meter wide thermal exhaust port. Upper left....

    ....right below the main port. But you didn't hear that from me.
    Enjoy you two. Good stuff.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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This show definitely has more spunk than 5/3. I can just feel the energy in the room.
And I really like that disjointed Half Step opener!
Purple Pyramids? Takes me back to the summer of '80. Had some real good times.
Camping in the Blue Ridge Mountains, body surfing at Hattaras, or just hanging out and reading Zap Comix with good friends and good vibes.

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Yesterday I was reading the June issue of ‘The Wire’ with an article about Shellac and today I see that Steve Albini has died. Bad timing with the new album.

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This release is exceptional. I never post but could not resist. Hearing for the first time made me lol at how good it is. Thanks to the team for getting it to us!

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Spring '71
Fall '79
YES a coupla great shows indeed!!!!

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....did no one on the "popular" board wish Bill The Drummer a Happy Birthday yesterday?
We all slacking yo.

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Happy Birthday to Billy! Hellava Drummer. 78 sun trips now, I will remember that from here on out as I was jamming to Boston 5/7~1977 Yesterday & of course some Cornell today. Dancing in the Street!

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Some one should've cast the blame on the "Hey Now" about Bill's absent B~Day wishes. Now seriously, I've got a theory. Every time I try to post some "T.M.I." about my futures speculations on Dave's picks. I get the Hey Now.

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...STEP BACK...
...AND THEN YET ANOTHER STEP BACK...
...Doesn't that feel better...

for today's listening enjoyment, backin' up the truck to 1977-05-07 boston garden, this should get me thru my almost 3 hour grass cutting chore for today :]

Peace All!
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Happy belated Birthday Billy!

I always loved Garcia's line on how Billy got in the band. Something to the effect of I couldn't understand a word he was staying so we asked him to be our drummer.

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Good call Proudfoot. I love this rockin' raw period. And a great quote from Jerry "We have Pigpen with us but we forgot to bring an organ..." How I would love to go back in time and follow these guys.

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Hey rockers!!

3/24/71: Weir’s cryptic “Code Seminole, check 3 check 3 check 1, Red Dog over, proceed plan Dakota…”

Actually, a very solid show, especially the Pigpen material, organ or no organ. Also the Truckin'/Other One is crunchy. Always worth a listen and would make a nice official release some day..........

Inner space is so much more interesting, because outer space is so empty.....

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… two primo picks my brother! For 71’ and 11/24/79 is a favorite of mine!

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So I guess it’s Sheldon Keefe’s fault that Marner doesn’t back-check.

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...that this is a really great release. This show is as good as anything from the tour. Actually, that applies to both shows included in this release along with the bonus disc.

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Has been a favorite of mine for many years. My all time favorite Hard To Handle. Crackles with energy.

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Started listening to the RT series a while back when it was the hot topic. Lots of good music, and I rarely listen a Bob cowboy song, so worked out for me. <Hey Now Test>

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37 years ago today I was at Laguna Seca Raceway having a great time with the Good old Grateful Dead. Great show! Bill Kreutzmann dedicated He's Gone to the memory of Paul Butterfield.. The Dead came out after the show and filmed the Touch of Grey video.

GD87 is a year I rarely listen to

I will try 5 9

only show I attended in 87 was 7 19 87

GD were so so

Dylan and Grateful Dead together was priceless

....Dave's 38 - Nassau.
Metallica-....And Justice For All
Pearl Jam - VS
King Gizzard And The Lizard Wizard - Fishing For Fishies (vinyl)
BOC - Secret Treaties (new 180g vinyl release)
All bangers imo.
Stop what you are doing. Right now. And find BOC's Flaming Telepaths. Somewhere. Anywhere. And tell me what your thoughts are on that song.
Soooo good.
Edit....Let Me Sing Your Blues Away from DaP 38 just started. Surprise!

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I did very much enjoy DaP49. The first disc of 50 to my ear was a bit slow and sloppy, if still good (is anything from 1977 NOT at least "good"?). Then the Might As Well starts a bit slow and sloppy, only to find some real energy towards the end. Then Estimated gets quite lovely and suddenly--SUGAREE! Wow. Then everything is just top-notch, with a stellar Wharf Rat. Good stuff, Maynard!

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I bet most of us got the email from the G_D today, this week at D_ead Ne_t. I noticed they are not steering readers to this site for the first time in a while on one of these emails, my guess is because of the Hey Meow banter and dissatisfaction with their web policies.

A missed opportunity during a time of declining sales.

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Love it.. love it.. love it.. great show(s), great sound - moore may 77.. BW from Copenhagen

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. . . but very cool. "The Clubhouse Sessions - Episode 1" (google it!). Fly-on-the-wall-view of Phil rehearsing with Grahame, Nicki Bluhm, Daniel Donato, John Molo & Holly Bowling . Keep on bombin' Phil!

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Just never stops, can't even finish my post, think I'm done here

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You think someone would wake up and say.. hey, maybe the kind heads on dread n_et actually know what they are talking about and our new IT director and brainchild of the new web architecture Bozola the clown aka Dr. Hey No_w is smoking a bit too much crack.

You're right Burnsy, it's a shame to see some of the really good-natured fun people get fed up and leave. People best at spreading infectious enthusiasm that fuels this place and surely improves sales.

It just never stops.

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It would help if we just knew the rules which are way past you can't put in a web address, etc. The randomness is very frustrating. Which word is getting me HNed?
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I agree 1,000 percent that we should have either resolution or some goddamned actual rules about what words can or can't be posted. What symbols will be flagged. Don't just piss off your literal customer base by making us deal with this shit for literally months. We put up with some ridiculous excuses on Warehouse migration issues that affected releases years after the warehouse was moved into, so at some point it would be nice to get a sense of what the hell is going on, and why it cannot be fixed easily and more quickly than months. As an act of protest, I am getting Mars Hotel 50th and zoetrope disc from Jeff Bezos.

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This Hey Now stuff. Hey now seems to have started as a fun play on Iko, now it can be torturous.

We got the crickets and cicadas singing like crazy. Wonder what it is like around Illinois where they are getting the double brood. The mighty locust chomp then the birds get a double meal.

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Received on April 27th.

First listen on anniversary dates, Niiiiice!

And love 1989-05-07. The first true dive to go deep in Midi with D/S. Just listen to D/S intro into the other 1. Amazing Sounds and transition. It was a big deal back then because it was the first time Phil played the opening bars of The Other One in a long while, if memory serves...

Billy's 43

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We’re going to finish up and send you on your way with one more “Other One intro” show, but one that’s a little less widely known. It’s actually the last of the 14 Grateful Dead shows in the intimate, forest-like setting of Frost Amphitheater on the Stanford University campus in the 1980s. It just so happened to be Kreutzmann’s 43rd birthday, and this Sunday afternoon show was solid and enjoyable. But makes the cut here, though, because of 12 shining minutes in the second set that showed that the band still knew how to experiment, explore, and blow a few minds in the process.

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Hell Noed

Can look up title, ill keep trying

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