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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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  • #131
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    If any of y'all had the good fortune to...

    be at Electric on the Eel in 87, the envy is all mine

  • #132
    Oroborous
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    Fall 91

    I love 9/26/91, I think I liked it better than the 25.
    9/10/91 was part of Boxilla.
    I listened to the whole tour in order 3 years ago, here’s what I came up with…

    Possible Fall 1991 Box (the last consistently good tour?)

    9/6/91
    9/8/91
    9/16/91*
    9/22/91
    9/24/91
    9/26/91*
    10/31/91*

    Favorite/must haves*
    7 Shows
    66 one time songs: really good selection!
    16 Repeats
    6 Threepeats
    (Not including D&S)

    The three peats are: Dar Star, Attics, Let It Grow, Saint, Stranger, and Good Lovin’

    The repeats are: Spoonful, Dark Star Jam, Wang Dang, Candyman, Maggie’s, Standing on Moon, Last Time, Stella, Samson, Eyes, TOO, Bertha, All Over Now, Heaven’s Door, Minglewood, and A&A. Hey, no matter how you slice em, Bobs ALWAYS gonna have repeats!

    9/17 and other Oakland and Richfield are probably worthy, but then you start getting into more repeats and perhaps too big a box?

    Works all done, Fire it up!
    Yer welcome ; )

    Going 84 Dark Star tonight!

  • #133
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    9 25 91

    I was quite grumpy about that release back in the day

    Haven't listened for a loooooong time

    It's time to check it out again

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    There are a lot of shows I'd have my ears on before 9/26/91. That Fall tour comprises eighteen shows spanning just three cities (3 in Richfield, 9 in NYC, 6 in Boston), all in September '91, with the 26th being the tour closer. Now, if my facts are accurate, Dave has only released one show from Boston - Vol. 21, 4/2/73 - which also happens to be the end of the tour.

    But I've always wondered at the selection of 9/25 as Dick's Picks Vol 17. By that point, of course, Latvala was dead and gone, so this was a Dave's pick in all but name. (I mean then again Dick had all those notebooks and maybe he had this one slated for release.) It does feature "That Would Be Something", the first Grateful Dead version of the song and the only rendition with Bruce. For that matter it was the only one for another two years, until the song entered the occasional rotation in mid-1993. But idk, I caught it once (at San Diego in Dec '93) and, well, it's a nice little tune but it didn't rock my world, ya know? (Although after all these years I can still hear Garcia singing the refrain - though I seem to recall he sang it as "pouring rain" rather than "falling") And anyway, the rest of that set II just never really wowed me. That said, I've never heard a note of 9/26. And the setlist is certainly promising. So maybe they ginned up some lightning in a bottle for that tour ender. Or... or... maybe this is just an unfounded rumor.

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    Phish Vegas '04 and a 20-year hiatus

    I was there that weekend. I remember being puzzled by the shows and the music. I agree with Alvarhanso that there were some good moments, but I too cannot remember them specifically. What I mostly remember is this deepening sadness as the weekend went on. I kept waiting for the magic to happen, but across that stand there were just some fleeting flashes of formerly glory that felt like parlor tricks rather than anything sustained and powerful. I do recall we were all puzzled that Kuroda wasn't there...

    Nevertheless, after seeing Phish live each year since '92 (I mean other than the hiatus) my disappointment was so profound that by the time we flew out of Mc Carran on Sunday, I told myself that I was done seeing Phish. And I took my own 20 year hiatus. It wasn't until the Sphere shows this past April that I finally looked in on Phish again. And I was glad I did, because they weren't the same band I'd seen in Vegas on that fateful weekend... they were better, much, much better.

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    Hey O’

    Daverock with the coffee chortle of the month! 😂

  • #137
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    may it be reel, 1/21

    that would mean they recovered the missing reels... Smokestack Lightning, H2H, a 25 minute TOO... the aud thats here is boomy, too much ambient noise, thrilling to have a clean, though doesn't quite fit with Dave's early hints.

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    Maybe it will be another one from Spring 1977, and Dave's a bit nervous about making the announcement.

  • #139
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    Phish Vegas April 2004

    The Phish went into Vegas in April 2004 for 3 shows to start the year, coming off a good to great 2003 return from hiatus, and the Vegas shows were universally panned as awful. Addiction issues were likely causes (not just Trey), and those shows were supposedly big reasons for the breakup that was set for August 2004 after a festival at Coventry, VT, which turned into its own muddy debacle and poor way to go out. 5 years later, they returned, with a newly sober Trey, and they refocused and have been much, much better since then. 2004 still had some good moments, even those Vegas shows had a couple good moments (couldn't tell you what they were as I last listened to them 20 years ago now), but I would imagine folks here know how that can go. So, it was very good that they took the appropriate time apart, got themselves in better spots mentally, physically, whatever, and came back stronger.

    Eta: I would much rather Doc's prediction of 1971 than of 9/26/91. Not opposed to 1991, I'd just rather it be a 4 disc Greensboro 1991.

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    Oh for quality recordings of both those shows

    Ja, gerne

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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Submitted by Peaceful Man on Fri, 05/10/2024 - 15:22

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Bucket as set 2 opener is great and then the Scarlet>Fire is worth hearing if you haven't... the Aiko is "way too effing slow". Check it out.

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Fri, 05/10/2024 - 16:12

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1972

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 05/10/2024 - 16:38

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....I do like to post this cheers emoji every now and then. A week or so ago I got hey nowed. Removed it and my post went through.
Testing it again. Well. What do you know. It went through.
It's random shit causing this. There is nothing to decifer.

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Fri, 05/10/2024 - 22:27

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I've got the world up my ass
And I'm gonna move fast
Be the first
Won't be the last
I've got the world up my ass
Society is burning me up
Take a bite,
Spit it out
Take their rules
Rip 'em up,
Tear them down
Twisted mind,
Withered brain
You know I'm going insane
I just tell them to get back
When they tell me how to act
I've got the world up my ass
You know I've got the world up my ass

It worked!! Go figure!

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Sat, 05/11/2024 - 10:18

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Finally got around to playing DaP 50 the other day, and what do you know? Disc two doesn't play all the way through Roses. And taking a close look at it it's clearly defective. So here we go again.

in the past, I've always gotten replacement discs in a reasonable amount of time. (A couple weeks.) And I know these things do happen. And it's been a couple years since I've had an issue. But still. I can't remember the last time that I got a new CD that would not play from any other company. I can't understand why this is such a constant problem with the Dead releases.

Anyway.

DaP is a good show, once it gets going. But the boys sure took their sweet time waking up for this particular gig. It's pretty low energy until that Sugaree that everyone is (justifiably) so excited about. I think the Bill the Drummer (belated hbd bro!) is the hero here: he starts pushing some triplets on the toms, and he won't stop till everybody picks up on it, and suddenly the music really starts happening. A good show from there on out but I doubt if I'll return to that first disc anytime soon.

So this is a good show, I'm glad to have it, yada yada. But it's hard for me to get too excited about it. There are at least 5-6 shows from the same damn tour I like better. I guess I'm pretty jaded, no?

Last five!
Flaming Lips: American Head
Billy Strings: Home
GOGD: DaP 50
Zappa: Make a Jazz Noise Here
Sonny Rollins: A Night at the Vanguard

After listening to this for the first time earlier today, I would agree that the first cd is very unexciting. The three slow songs is just too many at the same funereal pace. I really like the "Peggy O' played on 5/8, but this one here is nothing special.
Things do pick up though during the second set - sparkles like snow flakes on a curates garden, you might say. Although you probably wouldn't. The whole show doesn't sound that essential really - but pretty good once it picks up a gear.

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Submitted by marye on Sat, 05/11/2024 - 10:34

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please send me a PM with the details and I'll ask the Doc to fix this. Sorry for the aggravation.
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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 05/11/2024 - 10:53

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Yay

You are still among us

I thought they had removed you

Please tell them the Hey Now stuff is bad for business

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Submitted by dmcvt on Sat, 05/11/2024 - 11:59

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Blocked from posting ad nauseam Hey Now. Not fully caught up yet, first run 50. So far same original impression way back, second night with all its flaws, a little more magic. Speaking of magic, holy smokes, been checking out the outrageous and stunning video from Phish at The Sphere.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Sat, 05/11/2024 - 12:31

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Better cyber-security. Strengthen the huge holes that are obviously open.

Makes me wonder how good is the front door when I am putting in information.

Thats all i have to say bout that.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 05/11/2024 - 12:35

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:)))

9 2 85
4 8 71
Surprise filler from 71 with Keith
Big Black album Atomizer
Ministry a mind is a terrible thing to taste
A few tracks from Dave's 50 disc 2

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/11/2024 - 17:52

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....to see Blues Traveler tonight.
An hour drive. Haven't seen them since the early 2000's. Tix are $40.
Pleasantly surprised to see the line up is still the same.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Sat, 05/11/2024 - 17:58

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…I would really Love another “New Year’s performance release from the vault for the masses! If there’s one annual event I miss most was the groups New Year’s Eve celebrations they held at the Oakland Coliseum. The last was in 91’ I believe. Something was always special about them in my IMHO. I’ve never seen a larger sea of smiles from all the fans & attendees shine, with the house lights changing colors like great Roman candles in the sky. Phil s playing making the floors vibrate under your feet. Everything felt Special!
One of my favorite & gig is 1987! Believe it or not being from 1987, it’s an excellent show from start to finish! I believe it was also networked on television and radio for the entire country! Any other fans of the New Year Eve performances and would welcome a New release from the vault?….

Not spectacular.

I saw Jerry's Middle Finger the other night, those mofos can play. I absolutley loved it.
I do think that name in kinda dumb though...

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 05/12/2024 - 09:10

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Not the most tactful name I agree

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 05/12/2024 - 13:24

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....5.12.77 Chicago in the car. She's a thirty minute drive. Just exactly perfect.
Did not see Blues Traveler. Took an extended "nap" after that post and missed it lol.

The Strokes is this it
Dave's 50 disc 2
Ministry a mind yada
Big Black atomizer
Dave's 50 disc 3
Selections from 3 24 71
Opening track 11 25 79
David Bowie heroes

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Submitted by nappyrags on Sun, 05/12/2024 - 22:01

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from a two part road trip over the past week...on Monday off to Phoenix to see old friends and Tuesday night hit the Stones at the stadium the Cardinals play...Wednesday was a day of shopping and driving home late... I hit various book stores and music shops I like...one of the stores never fails to delight in their clearance sale section for blues & Jazz at 99 Cent$ each...grabbed about 20 of them...I also bought a copy of RFK Stadium, Washington, D.C. 6/10/73...got some great books too...I spent Thursday sleeping and Friday I headed out to Las Vegas to hang with an old friend and treated him to my extra tix for Saturday's Stones show at Allegiant Stadium...all in all a great time...

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 05/12/2024 - 22:03

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post positive review of new release

Apparently the word double u eye en en ee r is verboten

Beyond l a m e

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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 05/13/2024 - 02:42

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Ist show in last years big box. The whole might take a while to get off the ground, as you might expect from such a humongous show, but Jerry's guitar is spot on from the first note. Beautiful tone and playing.

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Submitted by jonathan918@GD on Mon, 05/13/2024 - 08:12

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I've very much been enjoying our latest offering from DL & CO.

I've always been a big fan of Peggy-O, and this is yet another stellar spring 77 version!!

On the morning of, 8/9/95, after hearing the news, I went and drove to my friends house to share in the grief of the day. As I started driving the tape in my car (10/17/94) was silent as all I could hear was the band tuning up. Once the music started it was Peggy-O. A very stunning moment, to my new stunning reality.

Rock on, gang!!

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Submitted by marye on Mon, 05/13/2024 - 12:04

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Argh. You guys, I feel your pain. The extremely short version is that, as previously noted, the tech folks are hard at work on many things, one of which is a newer and better site for us. And as with so many things in life, it takes longer than we'd hoped. Your cries are not falling on deaf ears and we are sorry for the aggravation. Thank you.
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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Mon, 05/13/2024 - 12:24

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1972
The front cover from the E72 CD box is just so tres francais!!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 05/13/2024 - 12:32

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Thanks Mary!

And when will they announce that October 74 box?

Still can't get that W word past the Hey Now.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 05/13/2024 - 13:31

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We've b****ed about the sheet enough. At least I have.

Apologies for the whining.

Looking forward!

HF

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 05/13/2024 - 13:51

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I don’t have it. There was no CD, just an LP if I recall correctly.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 05/13/2024 - 13:54

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New and improved coming soon…….

As Homer Simpson previously stated: “They have the internet on computers now”.

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Submitted by uncle_tripel on Mon, 05/13/2024 - 14:19

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...phila spectrum,
3 friends: Brian ("The Load" RIP), Dan ("The Man" RIP), and Mike ("Chumpweed", btw r u still in DE?) miracled me to my 1st show (I had just returned home on 4/30 after 5 weeks in a Brooklyn hospital) and I was in a fragile all-around state, and needed some LIVE MUSIC to get back to reality.

Thank You Guys, my life has never been the same since hearing the GOGD on that Saturday night.

Mike, if Penndel and Cobalt Ridge sound familiar please PM me. I would love to meet up with you. I believe I saw Aunt Shelly @ the Sunshine Daydream Meet Up @ the Movies several years ago w/ her piercing blue eyes.

...now I'm off to the archive for many more smiles : 1978-05-13 Identifier #116978 : and lovin' life

I went down to the sea
try to see what's going down
maybe read between the lines
had a feeling I was falling, falling, falling
turned around to see
heard a voice calling, calling, calling
you was comin after me
back to me

Peace All!

PS - if you like early '78, Truckin'>Black Peter>Sugar Mags>SSDD 🤯

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 05/13/2024 - 18:23

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.....is on the case.

You will never regret being kind.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 05/13/2024 - 18:38

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I am going to pass the being kind sentiment on to my students

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 05/13/2024 - 19:47

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....are smaller bands working their tours around it.
There are a few playing the Brooklyn Bowl that I'm interested in.
Eggy is one of them. Daniel Donatos Cosmic Country. Circles Around The Sun. Melvin Seals and JGB is playing there again. Pink Talking Fish changed their name to Pink Talking Fish Are Dead for the two shows they are playing.
The downside? Most doors are at 11. And it looks like the old man's getting on.
Got Pearl Jam this saturday evening.
Pretty good seats. Upper bowl center. 3rd row.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 05/13/2024 - 20:50

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....This week, The Venetian will open the "Dead Forever Experience", which includes more than 22,000 square feet of interactive exhibit space across two floors.
I'm as happy a a pigpen in shit.

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Submitted by snafu on Mon, 05/13/2024 - 21:11

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Looks like this one will go fast. Initial sales were 20397. Right on hopefully Dave is right and we get another 50. Of course not sure I’ll make it that far.

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