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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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  • Noah's Great Rainbow
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    Imagine a world where GDP posts the entire year's agenda on New Years. No more keeping devoted fans in the dark. No unrealistic expectations, no dashed hopes, just great music and happy folks.

    Imagine a world where unresolved customer service issues arent just relegated to one very kind soul. And help to support her many fine efforts to help us folks.

    Well, yes, I may have a very active imagination. Yes, I am clearly an optimist too. (Thus my screenname) And I'd kinda like to share my wishlist of future shows right now. But I won't. I still remain thankful for what we have, regardless.

    But that isnt why I decided to return and post here. The world is a scary place right now, and music can surely heal the soul in such times. For me, the poem on my wall, "Desiderata" perfectly describes it for me. Most of us are likely familiar with it. And for those who continue to struggle with what ever daily life throws at you, please know that you are not alone.

    "With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
    it is still a beautiful world.
    Be cheerful.
    Strive to be happy."

    Church is over, you may now go in peace. And to quote Pierre Robert, our local radio guy's favorite phrase "God Bless the Grateful Dead"

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    KIDDD: Yes, both 1969 Santa Rosa shows are very good and would make a nice release (hint hint to TPTB). I do believe that the kind folks at GEMS put pretty good copies into general circulation a while back...............

    JIM: Yes, fragments of both of the June 1970 Hawaii shows were streamed on deadnet previously. As I recall, both were pretty good quality, given today's sonic processing technology both could be nicely cleaned up. One had a lengthy TIFTOO. Can't recall the other one, which was a notch better quality.

    Undecided about the rumored 1970/1980 box. Would much prefer that the Hawaii shows be released separately, and if they want to issue a 1980 box that would be OK. But I'd prefer to keep the 2 eras separate. Of course, I'm not in charge of choices.........

    Four straight paperwork days, think I'm forgetting how to cut up dead folks..........

    Doc
    When music fails to agree to the ear, to soothe the ear and the heart and the senses, then it has missed the point.......

  • jonathan918@GD
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    I was hoping they would stick with the "venue" concept a little while longer. I like it!!

    Whatever it is, i'm on board

    rock on, gang

  • billy the kiddd
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    Killer of a show, put this together with 6/28/69 and you have a great release. Or, as part of a larger 1969 box set.

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    The Half Baked box sure seems like a Bad Idea, in terms of marketing.

    You got your people who love 1970. A 1970 box would probably sell great. And you got your people, probably a somewhat smaller group, that love 1980. A 1980 would probably do OK. But there's probably not that many people in the middle of that Venn diagram loving both those very different years. Seems like a tough sell to try to convince people to part with roughly $175 for a set where they're not super enthusiastic about one half or the other.

    Me, I'm simply running out of space. I either have to stop buying every box that comes out or get a bigger house. (Which, sadly, is not a realistic option.) I will probably pass on this one and hope that they issue one of the '70 shows separately.

  • Danehead
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    Box..

    The Alaska shows might be multi-tracks (or mixed-downs..), as they sound very good..

  • JimInMD
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    I'd be surprised if they offer another cassette mastered box and if they did I would not expect to see 81 through 83 included. The In and Out of the Garden Box (81 through 83 - cassette mastered) is still occupying shelf space at the warehouse.

    I'm up for whatever.

    The Hawaii 1970 concept is interesting though as it would have to be from the June shows. The Dave's Picks (19) pretty much cleaned out the January 1970 run. There is much mystery regarding the June shows as complete tapes do not circulate. I think Lemieux has played a song or three (at least I think he did). They'd likely be a Banana Box special, which really does hint to possibilities unknown.

    There are also copies of Betty Boards out there on the Archive were not part of the known ABCD cache. ABCD seems to have dried up or at least slowed down.

    It would be nice if the vault got a big ass FedEx box from a company named EFGH, LLC

    Or was it just a dream I dreamed.

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    October 74 yes yes yes
    Summer 85 yes yes yes

    From the ether comes a promo for ZappaMOI July 23 1968 at the Whisky.

    I listened/watched part of it. Pretty drecky.

    These days to me a little Zappa goes a long way

  • Obeah
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    Just want to say that I don't have a dog in this box set race. I'd be thrilled to add some more lovingly plangent-processed 1970 to my collection. But like so many, I also think it would be mighty fine to honor the 50th anniversary of an amazing year in GD history with a 1974 box set. And of course, with today being the anniversary of an amazing '85 show, I'd dearly love to see that one + 6/25, 6/28, 6/30, and 7/1/85 released (that 30 Trips release of 6/24 would round the week out nicely!)

    Goes to show you don't ever know...

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    Complete recordings of Winterland October 1974 run to celebrate the 50th anniversary!

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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I wonder if it might be something outside the Keith Godchaux years - and my preference would very much be something from before he joined. A 1976 box would be okayish, as I didn't get the last one. I wouldn't be as keen on a 1977or 78 box, though - in case you were wondering.

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Because of the release of "The Music Played the Band", found a group Bertha: Grateful Drag.

Yes, a group of Drag Queens covering the Dead. They're not bad,,, you can see on you tube.

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You Might As Well go tonight and tomorrow.

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Time for the announcement.

I’m still holding out for “The Last Ones” Box, complete audio and video, along with a remastered GD Movie.

I’ll take the rest of June 76 but can wait until 2026 for that.

2025, the 60th anniversary of the beginning, should be ‘65-‘68.

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....yup. They are pretty good. From Tennessee. Honey come quick with the iodine.
I have a feeling this years box is going to be one of the best. Pretty high bar they set for themselves. And we're here for it.

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…The 2024 Boxset I believe is going be one of best to date. I can’t tell you why, it’s just a gut feeling i have deep down to my Grateful Dead Bones! I would Love a 1979 Boxset!!! Oh yeah, 79’ Stay Alive! It’s a Primo year in their performance sound & playing as a band as this is when Brent became a key part in their new sound & song writing! There is literally a huge plethora of 1979 concerts that are just amazing & waiting to be released from the vault! Secondly, I would love anything from 1967-72. Thirdly, 1980-81. Both acoustic and electric performances much like the two Live albums released by the Grateful Dead, ‘Reckoning’ being the acoustic performances & the album, ‘Dead Set’ being the electronic performances at the time. Both theses albums are being Re-released this July 5th 2024. And lastly a ‘ Oakland’ Boxset! No matter what it will be , I’ll still be truly grateful for the Grateful Dead to continue making their live music available to fans! I’m really looking forward to the release announcement from Dead.net!
Have a grateful holiday weekend everyone, peace be with you all & rock on!

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Robert Hunter wrote Brokedown Palace, Ripple, and To Lay Me Down.

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They have been playing portions of it on Sirius over the past few weeks. The show is a ripper.

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5/25 & 5/26,... 1977. Dave's 1st & 41st Picks. It's an anniversary of somethin' somewhere! Anyways next pick, 51 is a Pig 1970 with the extras from DaV#48.
Last pick this year will be a Vince era, a first. Next year in 2026 expect 1982, 1976, 1973 and........? Either a primal Pig show or possibly another Vince era with a safe bet being later era Brent, 1988?

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I’m rewatching the Ken Burns Country Music documentary and I see that today, May 26th is the 91st anniversary of Jimmie Rodgers death. I must dig out some CDs and play them.

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to 5-26-72. the best of the best, and all vets out there, to all the ones we have lost, rest in peace. In 1971, 1 month till induction, I could have been one of them, but I was a lucky one. Peace, Love, Dead.

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to 5-26-72. the best of the best, and all vets out there, to all the ones we have lost, rest in peace. In 1971, 1 month till induction, I could have been one of them, but I was a lucky one. Peace, Love, Dead.

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sorry, fingers and eyes not quite as coordinated as they used to be.

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In my top 5 for sure. Along with
5/2/70
3/1/69
2/28/69
...and the 5th changes all the time. June 1974 is a favourite month and as 6/28/74 should be rocking up at my front doorsoon I think I'll stand behind that one. 6/16/74 is a top contender - but they all are from this month.

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Couldn't agree more.

Love the Eyes China Doll from 6/18 too. That transition is something.

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My top 5 is much like yours 5/2/70 3/1/69, 2/14/68, 2/27& 28/69, 5/15/70. Great minds think alike, top 6

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Yes, those shows mentioned by Jim and Billy are also favourites of mine. If they ever get round to releasing Road Trips on vinyl, 2/14/68, 5/15/70 and 6/18/74 would all be top choices.

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Yeah, I've been reading the post threads and been wondering the same thing. What era, how many shows? is it a straight run consecutively played, or a multi year escapade? Either way, can't wait!

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So while we're all waiting for the box announcement, I see that Experience Vinyl is offering LPs of four official Dead releases for pre-order (Reckoning, Dead Set, Go To Heaven & Shakedown Street). No mention of being remastered and they're all years from their respective 50th anniversary treatments. What's up with this? Am I missing something?

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What I have been able to listen to of this release sounds great. I have been able to listen to discs 2 and 3 and the bonus disc, but I haven't been able to listen to disc 1 as it skips. Not just a few times but maybe a hundred times, so badly that it is unlistenable on all but the first two tracks. Visually the disc looks fine but it most certainly isn't. This is the first Dave's Pick disc that I have had a problem with but I have read that plenty of other people have had problems with other Dave's Picks.

I would have thought that Dead.net/Rhino would have learnt from last year's Here Comes Sunshine 1973 box set debacle, but it seems not. Loads of people had problems with discs that either skipped or would not initialise. The problem turned out to be CD-player specific - some players would play the discs without problems, others not. Most of the discs in my box skipped, as did the replacements. It was obvious that there was a manufacturing problem with those discs. I was eventually given a download version after several months of jumping through hoops.

I cannot understand why the team put so much effort into some aspects of their releases and seem to do other things as cheaply as possible. Remember the Mexican-made Dave's Picks? Now it seems their current disc manufacturer is unable to produce fault-free discs but they still keep producing them.

I am seriously wondering how long I am prepared to pay good money for faulty products when it appears that there is no will to rectify, or even admit to problems. I don't think I can even be bothered to try and get a replacement disc for Dave's 50 as it would probably also be defective.

Sigh.

I have the same problem Simonrob. Sent a note into the support team, but have not heard back yet. Will let you know if/when I get a response.

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AGH. Passing this up the line. So sorry for the trouble.
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A true Deadhead and great human being.
Met him once at a CSN show at MSG in the 90s. very kind .

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Aw shucks and cancer sucks.
Legendary player and legendary Deadhead.
Always a smile.
Cheers to Bill!

Edit: Saw him twice at Red Rocks as he was hard to miss standing off stage to the side. Once was on crutches as he had a broken leg I think.

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A true legend. Dude was playing pickup basketball with NBA players as a teenager, and before you say, "Sure, he was 7 feet tall!", he was "only" 6'2" or so when he was purposely injured by an older guy who was tired of being beaten by a teen. He spent 6 months in bed while his broken leg healed, and by the time he left the bed, he was 6'9" and 135 pounds. He took his earlier passion for passing and became one of the best big men of all time a generation (or more) before big guys played like that. Around the same time, he became the biggest Grateful Dead fan in the land. His enthusiasm for life, basketball, and the Dead were boundless. His book Back From the Dead is an amazing tale, told with his inimtable enthusiasm, and if you ever heard him speak much, you can hear the whole thing in your head as a book on tape. I loved him as an announcer, even if it drove other people mad. He was a flavor of licorice I thoroughly enjoyed, and I will miss the big fella even though I never had the pleasure of meeting him. Fare thee well, Bill!

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God bless bill walton!! Standing on the moon with his hero! RIP

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Gonna miss the big guy, loved his commentary, he knew his dead trivia. Heard it was prostate cancer, the silent killer. I recommend everyone gettin up there in age get a prostate exam, simple and a bit uncomfortable, but if cancer can be caught and cured if found early. I know, I know, kind of embarrassing exam but a little discomfort is better than the alternative. Dios te guarde to our tall brother Bill.

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I saw him one time walking down the street after a December Dead show at the Oakland Auditorium , I didn't know who he was; I said to my friends, 'man that guy is tall'.

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As Bobby said at the Portland Raceway (the day after Lowell George died in 1979) "He was good while he lasted!"

And the same for Bill.

It was hard to miss him sitting dead center at the shows, often perched on a high stool, arms held up high, with the widest smile you have ever seen, ecstatically drinking in the Dead....

May the four winds blow you safely home.

"Teachers open the door, you must enter by yourself."

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Sad to hear about Big Red. I grew up loving UCLA basketball and the Dead, so you can imagine how I felt about Bill.

Quick story: once, in another lifetime, I was a journalist working on an article that had to do with the NBA playoffs. I was at a game in Sacramento and Walton was there working as a commentator, and I thought I'd stop him in the hallway on the way out and see if I could get a comment. I thought I'd ask one question and get a quick answer. But after I said hello and told him what I was working on, he said "let's do this right, let's have a real conversation." He gave me his home number and said "call anytime."

I had to call several times before I caught him at home, but when I finally did, we talked for over an hour. I got the comments I needed for the story during the first few minutes, but we just kept talking about sports, music, life. At the time he was overjoyed that he was no longer experiencing the debilitating back pain that had made him bed ridden for a long period. He felt like he'd been given his life back.

Anyway, who does that? Just bares his soul to some random journalist for no good reason, other than a good talk?

A good man. Who has surely gone where the good souls go.

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So sorry to hear this. Love the comments and good thoughts, especially Crow's story. I never met the man but I always enjoyed watching him play ball, listening to him talk and his writing. Glad we got the liner notes from him for UCLA 71. Just in time.

Flying the freak flag at mast. Today is a sad day, tomorrow we can celebrate his life and impact. Talk about good karma.

aw man

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As a guy who loves basketball and the Grateful Dead, sad to hear about Bill Walton. I watched him play in the 70s and 80s and loved listening to him call a game. He really dropped a lot of Dead references into telecasts in recent years. I met him at a Dead & Co show at Alpine Valley (2018 maybe?). Super nice guy who took a minute to talk to me about basketball and how he loved Wisconsin's team (I told him I loved his call of a Wisconsin v. Arizona game the previous season). RIP Big Red

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May the four winds . . .

Saw him seems like every post GD show at Red Rocks in the VIP section., right in front of the SB.
Usually, that ment all six eleven of him, arms flaying above his head, leaning precariously over the flimsy section rope, like a moth to flame, like he needed to be as close to the music as he possibly could.
The year he was on crutches we thought for sure he was going down lol, but nope, true warrior still Dancin and dreamin, and ALWAYS with that ecstatic shit eating grin!

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My comment referred to the spam post by tooltime. Glad they removed it! And quickly.

Thanks dead net or MaryE or whoever removed it.

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That news really sucks.
Never met him, but did spot him in the crowd at several shows.
Peace

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Yeah, I removed him so all good. Moving right along...

My first view of this page has Tim The Tool Man as the top post, but when I hit ‘recent posts’ he disappears.

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...to Angel Hernandez
It's sad MLB had to bribe him to retire.

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42 years ago I was at the Moscone Center for a great night with the Good old Grateful Dead. A benefit for Vietnam Veterans, Country Joe, Boz Scaggs, John Cippolina, also played.

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Where is the box.. ?

I tried to IM you,,, but got hey nowed!!!

I found my copy of Bertha was also corrupt. I re-ripped with a different ripper and it seem to rip ok.

I put it up on my gdrive, but couldn't put the address up for it.

contact me on dennis wilmot verizon net. You need to a period between dennis & wilmot, an at sign between wilmot and verizon and a period between verizon and net.

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