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  • Oroborous
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    True dat

    Absolutely no noise reduction ON THE RECORDING, but that doesn’t mean some kind of processing on the final release, and, it seemed like 4/12 sounded much different, especially in the frequency spectrum we’ve been discussing.
    There are other ways in mastering to treat noise beyond basic noise reduction, like, not your 80s tape deck Dolby…
    I’ve been looking at pics and some don’t seem to have overhead drum mics where others certainly do. But haven’t dug deep so don’t know dates that correspond to pics etc. Just wonder if that was something Betty was messing with as she’s known for her mic placement perhaps above all else…
    Also noticed JG moved into the center, and Bob to the left, (as per their stage orientation at the time) of the soundstage on maybe the 10th? Before that they were switched, and the 12 all kinds of things going on lol,
    Always fun to try and dissect things!

  • fourwindsblow
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    Noise redution?

    No where in the notes does it state any noise reduction was used in the reel recording of any of the shows in the box.

    Will be doing the 15th tomorrow!

    Going to have to listen to the 11th again as I thought they were a little out of sync...

  • Oroborous
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    4/12/78

    Previously, Only heard this one once, thought it was good but overshadowed by the 11, 15 and 16th…let’s see after proper sit down if it matches the hype…

    Think 4/11 was tops so far, but 4/6 seemed to stand out too. These shows are sneaky good. Meaning sometimes you have to wait for it. The dynamics are often impressive. Not freight train Dead like you might expect from this period, but often nice subtle build ups/peaks. You can tell their having fun, getting loose and digging the smaller venues.
    Really tasty when their all in sync etc, (sometimes the looseness is a tad much) and 4/11 is a good example of being synced up!
    And DG has been improving nicely as the tour has progressed and has some real moments here.
    That Sunrise is one of the most powerful I’ve heard, and some songs she’s carrying the lead vocals. Meaning on shared vocals, she is often the strongest most consistent, which allows J &B more latitude.
    And the sound is great on all so far, but I too will compare with 37, which I recall is the benchmark of this tour…

    I do understand 4winds “cymbal” comments. Don’t have torrents to compare, but they aren’t prevalently splashing all over so ?…
    It doesn’t seem like an issue to me, and probably wouldn’t notice it if I wasn’t trying to…guessing mastering, probably added some shimmer to the torrents versus some noise reduction, tape restoration, age etc, or, perhaps artifacts from different machines used to record copies from the masters, versus Bettys reel decks and masters…

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    4/14 set 2

    here we go! set 1 was okay! I like where set 2 is going...

    Samson oh yeah!! Lions Den for sure!! Growls...

    Music swinging!!

    The Natives are restless!

    That was fun!

    Love them while you can, for someday they'll be gone.

  • proudfoot
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    4 11 78

    When i first heard it back in later 80s I was amazed at the post drumz sequence. I didnt know they had done it.

    Nowadays its like "cool"
    Back then it was like "wow!"

    At the moment
    4 14 78 looks Like Rain (never one of my favorites)

    Due to holiday no need to go to work so plenny o' GD

    Yay!

  • icecrmcnkd
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    4-14-78

    I’m going in order and will do 4-15 next to see (hear) how it compares to the Box.

    I like 4-10 and 11 a lot, but they’re also burned into my synapses from having them on cassette and then CD-R.

  • proudfoot
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    this series of shows

    nothing has really caught fire for me (I am jumping around in the sequence)

    however

    4/14/78 before work today sounded hot.

    also:

    in the car I am listening to 10/8/89

    good stuff
    really good stuff

  • Oroborous
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    4/11/78

    Hoping it’s as good as I recall…
    4/10 was not, in fact, bit of a dog, perhaps worst so far?
    Not a bad show, just more inconsistent and several notable flubberies etc…
    Let’s find out ; )
    Onward!

  • 1stshow70878
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    4-8-78

    JAX - middle of 1st set.
    (edit - nice Estimated/Eyes in 2nd set)
    Still most impressed with 4-6-78 so far.
    Glad I got this box, I have skipped some.
    Cheers

    Recent listens:
    Fleetwood Mac - Future Games LP
    Teruo Nakamura - Manhattan Special LP (with Herbie Hancock)
    Pat Martino - Joyous Lake LP
    4-6-78 Tampa
    4-7-78 Hollywood

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    Not a sports fan at all, will watch super bowl and world series with group, but really don't care.

    I felt sorry for Pete Rose, I feel I heard a story about wife abusers being allowed into the hall of fame, but not Pete?

    On another note, I have a new favorite song. Maybe a bunch of you have heard of him, but I hadn't, Jelly Roll. He was on Saturday Night Live this weekend and did a tune called "Winning Streak". A search of "Jelly Roll - Winning Streak (Live on SNL)" will pull it up. It's a tune about a alcoholic going to his first AA meeting.

    One of the best refrain lines EVER

    I was so ashamed to be in this seat, til I met a man who was 20 years clean
    He said, 'Everybody here's felt the same defeat. Nobody walks through these doors on a winning streak.'

    Check it out. Hope you find it as good as I do.

    And, no, I've never had an addiction or been to any sort of meeting.

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head across the pond today...1981-10-16 OOPS @ melkweg club Amsterdam NL
I can hear Garcia saying to Weir thru the thick cloud of hash smoke,
"Hey Weir, we don't have our guitars" and Weir says, "No worries Jer, we'll just rent some" lol

everyone enjoy your weekend, if you can

Peace for All!
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6/23/74 I believe
PROPER!

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Let's Get Together (just played) and now the jaybirds calling on Like a River

Fell in love with Kate's voice and music back in late '80s. Great to have this live set as part of a SEVA benefit concert that includes other favorite musicians of mine (thank you Bear).

8/10/91 - a five-star-give-it-ten-if-i-could favorite from the tape days back in the mid 90s. Awesome that it got released in that box - beautiful sound and show. Shout out to Proudfoot for mentioning that box and steering me here.

Last night.
I’ve heard it before but not sit down listen.
Though didn’t get the best listen last night due to aaaa, “extra curricular” activities/noise in the world.
But it’s an interesting show that you just kind want for it to get released, especially because ya know…AND, it’s Pinkus first show, etc
But I’m not sure it’s good enough, orrrr, tight enough for a Dave’s.
Specifically, the beginning of the second set. Yeah it’s fun sneaking TOG in between S/F but the transitions are a bit sloppy etc, enough, along with other sorta normal what I call Cali laid back looseness lol to perhaps keep it getting “Daved”
As we know, he likes to try and pick the best representation or presentation of the band/music on a specific tour etc, and not necessarily what some might consider “the best show” of the tour.
BUT!
After this Reno show getting out, and as Jim often suggests, sometimes these kind of shows work well to round out box sets, so I could see it as part of a Greek box! Curious what others think of this show?
Think I need a redo, and gonna hit the rest of the 84 summer Cali shows asap.
Onward!

Don’t lend yer hand, to raise no flag, atop no ship of fools!

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Sing Out is a great Owsley release, but all the Owsley releases are worth picking up. I was at Sing Out it was a cool show. Kate Wolf was a favorite of mine, I used to go see her play all the time here in the Bay Area.

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JGB

Bay Area 78

Good stuff

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5 22 81

Acoustic benefit show

interesting

Were you there, BTK?

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Traffic - John Barleycorn Must Die (a favorite from way back in the formative years)

and now - David Gilmour - Live in Gdansk

BTK - very cool that you got to see Kate sing time and again including the Sing Out! Seva Benefit. I was introduced to her music right around the time she died (I was Midwesterner then). Guessing a dubbed cassette copy from a friend of the double LP Give Yourself To Love. I in turn shared her music with many others. Such a remarkable, beautiful voice. Streamed the video for her performance of Green Eyes from the Austin City Limits show (don't own that yet) and my goodness how amazing it is. (Edit - originally wrote that it was a performance of Give Yourself To Love when it was in fact Green Eyes.)

Further follow up - 8/10/91 JGB Electric on the Eel right up there with Warner Theatre 3/18/78 (Set II specifically) as an absolute favorite Jerry Band release. So good!!

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JGB

Don't Let Go release
May '76

Very pleasant

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"Many Thanks, and God Bless You All" from Phil before JB Goode,
of the 3 nights, I always for some reason return to the 15th, it might be the heavy Phil & Brent mix that clinches it for me...fun stuff; even a couple of nice Garcia teases during space...

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7/19/74 Fresno

Again. :)

I like that JGB 5/21/76, that one is nice I thought.

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Grateful Dead Manor Downs, Austin, TX 9/13/83 Complete Show

Fun too watch Jerry dancing on Fire On The Mt

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I'll have mine "on the rocks" please.
Doing a tape of the mid-90s bootleg CD.
Got to run the tape deck now and again to keep everything running smoothly. It keeps the belts and the grease on the mechanism from getting stiff.
Cheers

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...is real, and JGB is good, but...
5/21/76 orpheum is REAL GOOD!

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Great couple of discs in the new edition. Full of rustic charm. Who plays on what isn't too clear, but it all rolls along very nicely.

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Not right now, but on my commute you all know----and expect---that I will be cranking Scranton this morning...........

Rock on rockers!

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Soaring through Birdsong!

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I know 3/18/71 St. Louis was included in 30 Trips, but I didn't buy that box. However, in preparation for Dave's Vol 51 I figured I ought to give it a listen. To date I have only ever heard the tail end of the show, the NFA->GDTRFB->Caution etc. So I've just had a listen to the opener (Casey Jones) and am about to get into it properly, but decided I need a sangwich and some water first. Figured I'd make this short post first.

Side note: only Caution of 1971! It would be a full year until it was again played live - at the Academy of Music in March '72. After only 5 documented performances of Caution in 1970, that must have been exciting as heck for the crowd in St. Louis to hear them launch into it.

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Finito bonito!

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Onto 7/22/84…

Going for the DHB today!
Can I make before TOO gets home 🤞

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Spinning now.

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And a cup of super dark roast Columbian Supremo.
Roasted the beans myself.

Summer ‘85 Box next year please Dave.

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Never done the whole show….until now ; )
PITB, holy crap!, and an excellent Phil/Ned, and, Good Sheet!

Re: 7/13/85, awesome first set! You’ll need that D roast!

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I’m streaming ‘Ask Me No Questions’ by Bridget St John at the moment. I own it on vinyl and cd but streaming was the easiest way to find it. This is a wonderful album and she deserves to be far better known. It originally came out on John Peel’s Dandelion label a very long time ago.

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8-13-75
Great American Music Hall S.F., CA
Some say in their top 10.
Cheers
Sage & Spirit has a Lost Sailor riff.

Capitol Theatre
Passaic, NJ

The High Time on this one always hits me in the feels.

Peace

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wow, had a memory flash when I saw Columbian Supremo, reminded me of back in the 70's. That's what the guy called it, supremo. :)

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I think I played some of this last night - the first cd of Dicks Picks 31. If so - I agree - the first track, Playing, doesn't just open the doors of perception, it blows them off the hinges.
It's a bit of of a hotch potch, though, Dicks Picks 31. 4 great cds, but it would have helped if they had said which show the songs came from. I should make my own notes really - every time I play it, I end up sitting here squinting at Deadbase, trying to work out what's what.

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The first taste of live Phish, excellent concert, seats down front right above the pit, direct sight lines, in front of Mike and Jon. Quite the venue, spin around to see 20,000 above us. With an old friend who has been to many Dead shows, we had fun checking out the scene. Loud and clean, Trey's voice lessons paid off, sang well. My 72nd birthday. Next up, John Jorgenson's J2B2 bluegrass band, then JRAD on Jerry's birthday. Looking forward to April, 71 #51, thanks Dave, love those fully packed discs.

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Madison Square Garden

Excellent Looks Like Rain.

Peace

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First time for complete show

Edit: interesting show.
Perhaps a tad uneven, plenty of moments.
Another cool 74 Playin though perhaps not quite in step with some previous?
Guessing this run gets even better as they settle in etc…?
Let’s find out…

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Right now? Boston Music Hall April 8 1971..............

Couldn't help myself................

Rock on,

Doc
In the worst of times, music is a promise that times are meant to be better.....

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Onward!

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Released as "England's Newest Hitmakers" in the States - with a few changed tracks. 60 years old, and the best of their pre freak beat/psych albums. Maybe the best of all their albums outside the classic 1968-1973 years.

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Morning, rockers!!!

Listening to right now? Why of course it's Bucknell, just because. This is one that truly requires no explanation. Unless it does, of course.............

All of the things I used to obsess over, I'm no longer as obsessed with, I have new concerns but they're a little more existential or cosmic......

Rock on my fellow rockers!!

Doc
Man can be understood only by ascending from physics, chemistry, biology, and geology, in other words, he is first of all a cosmic problem......

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...in good spirits until I saw a post on the 51 thread...
political schmuck B.S.
and so the music will have its effect, as I progressively move thru...the US Blues>>>>> 1974 JUNE 20 ATL

Peace All
uncle_tripel

So far kinda....ok.

Brent gone almost 34 years now

What a loss. The band must have been shocked. Or maybe not.

Stay away from that shyte, kids.

Glad I knew my limits and knew not to stick my hand into the path of the table saw.

Easy to love you