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    Dave's Picks Vol. 51: Scranton Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, PA (4/13/71)

    Look out Big Boss Man, Pigpen's on the loose! We're shedding our lovelight on the not-to-be-overlooked Spring 1971 tour with DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51, featuring the complete unreleased show from the SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 AND the 2nd set from the previous night at the Pittsburgh Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, PA on 4/12/71.

    These gems find the original Grateful Dead quintet delivering some of their most inspired, energetic, and tightest performances. There's a dab of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, a splash of AMERICAN BEAUTY, a great foreshadow into what would soon appear on SKULL & ROSES. And you'll need nearly all those fingers (or those toes) because - count 'em - there's eight classic covers ("Mama Tried," "Hard To Handle," and a rare "I Second That Emotion," to name a few) done as only the Dead could do them with Mr. McKernan and his magical harmonica.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51: SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

    P.S. We had a little extra room on Disc 2, so please enjoy the final five DP48 bonus tracks to complete 10/24/70, St. Louis, MO.

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    God bless the Brooklyn Bowl Taper

    So 11/11/70 is one of my favorite shows. The only circulating AUD is very rough, as we all know, but as it happens Bluecrow said something in another post earlier today, and while it's about another show entirely, it's very apropos: "...with a pair of cheap headphones - listening in the dark in the middle of the high desert night - you could be there."

    This is some of the last really primal dead I can point to. Just three months later and this era was already a wisp of a dream, hard to remember... Mickey's out of the band and they're debuting a bunch of new material a little ways up the road in Port Chester. But on this first night in Brooklyn, a Wednesday, there was magic in the air. I can go on at length but it's late...

    Somewhere I thought I remember reading that the taper on this night snuck in his gear inside/under a wheelchair, but I don't know if that's true and I don't know where I am getting that from. I thought the story also went that the reason that the quality of the tape gets progressively worse with time was because the venue (which wasn't sold out) does gradually fill over time, and patrons block the sound.

    The La B amba thing... certainly Garcia teases it during Good Lovin, but if something is sung I can't remember it... the quality of the tape at that point is pretty rough. If you can get far enough at long you will get to a VERY early Goin' Down the Road. Like Sugar Mag, this is an EARLY version. One gets the idea that maybe Garcia was just tryin it on to kill a bit of time as he's almost unaccompanied as he starts out singing. Oh and then a couple of minutes in to the tune, you can hear an audience member say, "is that Jack Casady? Told ya" (I believe the Airplane were due to play up at a certain theater on the CT border that coming Friday night the 13th, but they were off this night, so they sat in.

    Like so much of the second half of 1970, I doubt we will ever hear a board copy of this show. I hope I'm wrong because this show on the whole is a tremendous work of art. It's not perfect - for example, the Hard to Handle isn't as incendiary as some others - but regardless, I expect I will always remain eternally grateful to the person who taped it for us. Forgive me if I got my facts wrong here, it's late, but corrections/additions are welcomed

  • TN John
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    Received

    Maybe I'll get it next week for my vacation.

    Peace

  • billy the kiddd
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    Anniversary show 7/24/87 Oakland

    37 years ago I was up in Oakland to hear the Grateful Dead & Bob Dylan play. The show was fantastic, the Dead played great! Garcia played pedal steel when the Dead backed Dylan, that alone was worth the price of admission.

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    The email says “shipped”, but UPS doesn’t have it yet.

    7-10 days and hopefully it will be here.

    In the meantime Dave, announce the Box…..

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    Setlist has LA Bamba listed after Good Lovin' and before Cumberland Blues???

    From Brooklyn Bowl website.

  • Birchwood
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    Brooklyn Rock Palace Nov. 1970 Banana Box 4-Show Box Set!

    Brooklyn Rock Palace Nov. 1970 Banana Box 4-Show Box Set?
    I'm listening to the low-fi recording of 11-11-70 available on archive.org, and the playing is Grade A excellent. What a treat it would be if these four concerts existed in excellent audio. Anyone know more about them?
    Peace!

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    John Mayall

    Saw him Live at the Jahrhunderthalle, Frankfurt on May 2nd 1972 (John Mayall Blues Group).
    Just about a week after the GD hit the same stage.
    But I didn't make it to the Dead. Little had I known about them.
    After 52 years it feels unforgivable to me!
    Least we have the music.
    Cheers
    G.

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    Thanks for the mention of the two Jimmy Herring albums, boobtube had both.

    Now in stock and will be listened to.

    Some great people on the Subject to Change album.

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    I never saw him, and I only have two of his albums - the one with Eric Clapton known as "The Beano Album" and "A Hard Road" with Peter Green on guitar. They are both great, sounding more like the real thing than an imitation of it.

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    Only saw Mayall once, as well, at a club in Toronto, and he had a hot shot guitar player with him then (Rocky Athas), and I recall we said at the time that Mayall must have been the greatest talent scout for guitarists out there, given his noble history of playing with some great ones.
    On great guitarists, I was reading Jimmy Herring has been diagnosed with tonsil cancer, but the good news is that it has been caught in Stage One, and his doctors expect with treatment, he should be fine, thankfully. For anyone who does not own his two really fine solo albums (Lifeboat; Subject To Change Without Notice), do yourself a real solid and seek them out. Tremendously underrated player.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 51: Scranton Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, PA (4/13/71)

Look out Big Boss Man, Pigpen's on the loose! We're shedding our lovelight on the not-to-be-overlooked Spring 1971 tour with DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51, featuring the complete unreleased show from the SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 AND the 2nd set from the previous night at the Pittsburgh Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, PA on 4/12/71.

These gems find the original Grateful Dead quintet delivering some of their most inspired, energetic, and tightest performances. There's a dab of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, a splash of AMERICAN BEAUTY, a great foreshadow into what would soon appear on SKULL & ROSES. And you'll need nearly all those fingers (or those toes) because - count 'em - there's eight classic covers ("Mama Tried," "Hard To Handle," and a rare "I Second That Emotion," to name a few) done as only the Dead could do them with Mr. McKernan and his magical harmonica.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51: SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

P.S. We had a little extra room on Disc 2, so please enjoy the final five DP48 bonus tracks to complete 10/24/70, St. Louis, MO.

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Thanks for the heads up!!!

Give me a sec to wipe the tears from my eyes.

I think Papa is one of the greatest songs ever written and THAT was a hell of a version.

WOW!

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I need this in my mailbox yesterday, I am taking a little trip on the first, I hope it comes before then.

I think this is going to sell out partly because of the cover.

I have to imagine that water filtration is very popular in India! :)

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Hope everyone enjoys the release...Four hours of rockin' Grateful Dead !

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I forgot to give an update on the upgraded shipping for anyone actually interested.

Last year for the HCS box I upgraded the shipping to direct delivery from UPS, (skipping the Post Office) I opted to pay for the whole year, assuming it would cover the Dave's Picks, it does not. So I paid for the year and the Dave's Picks still go to the post office. I guess technically they fall under a different category, which I did not know. To add insult to injury they hit me recently with auto renewal... so yeah, but maybe I'll get the next box a little earlier. This is all a UPS issue and not necessarily a Deadnet issue in case anyone is wondering.

Did anyone else do this?

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The penguin is a reference to the Pittsburgh Penguins, and The Igloo was the nickname of the Civic Arena which is where the Pens played until 2010.

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Why am I suddenly being completely hey now'ed/blocked???? Wanted to respond to questions about The Project, the shows, etc, but TPTB have said "No Doc you pontificate too much too soon!!!"...........

Try to rock on,

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50 years ago today - the Dead opened their 1974 Summer tour with this fine show in Fresno; solid first set, closing with a great "playing". 2 set (one-time ?) "Brown-eyed women" to open, and a "Jam - Eyes - China Doll" trio to end the show.. One of the best-sounding WoS-shows, I know.. BW from Copenhagen to all..

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Hey rockers..........

Here's the Reader' Digest version of what I attempted to post yesterday:
***The 1971 Project, perpetual work in progress, if anybody needs/wants a copy, PM me.
***Anybody needs/wants ANY 1971 shows, feel free to PM me.
***51 = delicious, fun, crunchy, Bakersfield.....

That is all, carry on!!!

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When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt........

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I don't remember Bob much at all, maybe caught some re-runs in my teens. The Office seemed okay, but same for me, lasted about 5 episodes. Same with Parks & Rec.
The best comedy series I've ever seen was Schitt's Creek, the writing, the acting, all of it top notch.
If you wanna go somewhat old school, there was a one season show in 2000 called Freaks and Geeks, search that one out, spoiler, it ends with the main female character running away to join the 1981 Dead tour.

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For a skeleton, He's got a killer Dew.

Will look for Schitt's Creek. Knew it was on just never checked it out.

Also track down the one season that Burnsey posted.

Sorry sometimes my memory is was too short. I will reread his post and then write it down. Ouch

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Watching the latest seaside chat I was surprised to hear Dave say that the present release (#51) represents something of neglected era that they're going to try to focus on more. And I thought, dude, wtf?

#51 is 1971. Dave's #49 was also 1971. And if my math is correct, this is the 5th DaP out of 51 to come from 1971. And that's not to mention Ladies and Gentlemen, the Grateful Dead, Skull & Roses, Dicks 2 and 35. How is that a neglected era?

But then I realized that #51 and #49 could definitely be considered different eras: one of 'em is the "saloon band" quintet, the other has Keith. Likewise, #47 (from 1979) kind of got lumped with what some people felt was an overabundance of '70s stuff, but it is definitely a different era than any of the other official releases (that I know of) from the '70s. Because it's the beginning of the Brent era.

And then it hit me like a Blinding Flash of Duh: Decades are not eras. Years are not eras. An era may last more than a year, or less. A decade might have two eras, or several.

Anyway, looking forward to this one. The 'saloon band' generally doesn't blow my mind like some other eras, but they're always a rockin good time. And I could use one of those right about now.

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I have just received the shipping mail for Dave's Picks 51 from the Dead.net store. That is sooner than I had imagined possible. Now the wait as the small package makes its way across the world. Hopefully it will only take two weeks to cross the pond to the Netherlands.

Edit: It turns out that the tracking number is for DHL eCommerce which is new to me for packages from Dead.net.

It seems to me that it is a bit misleading, breaking the Dead's shows down in terms of years. As Crow suggests, the first part of 1971 is very different from Fall 1971, with Keith, which sounds much closer to 1972. That's the most marked change in style within one year - but another is 1969. The first half of that year, the culmination of their psychedelic phase, is quite different in feel to the shows in the second half of the year when Working Mans songs and the country covers started to appear.
No Dave's from the first half of 1969 yet - amazing considering how great those shows were.

Crow meant Dave's #48, anyways. Yeah! eras are a trip. I feel the same for 1973 now. Though it's not a personnel line up era rather an "album" era. It's the August recording month that serves as the divider. To me it's the difference of "Weather Report Suite; Let it Grow" and subsequent jammings. Though that is more of an era within an era, the same band line up just different tunes.

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30 years, 4 eras per year equals 120 eras.

Of course goofin, but to me the band was always alive and changing.

That is what makes it so interesting.

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It is awesome that they are working with DHL to get the EU heads their fix quicker.

The good and bad of AI.

More computers, to me, equals less freedoms.

Just know with all things in life, at some point you get too old to keep up with the changes.

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I watched the seaside chat last night and if my memory serves me correctly, Dave was implying that spring ‘71 was under represented, and specifically April ‘71.
I recall him saying that there were several shows from April ‘71 that were considered for release, and that the others will be released too.

He also said that he recently reviewed the artwork for #53, which would imply that the show has been chosen.

He also seemed excited about what is coming later this year. Of course, he’s always excited.

I’ll subscribe to Dave’s 2025 right now if that would qualify me for a second bonus disc (or download).

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6/20/92 would make a good pick for Dave's Pick's...

Cap. Center spring '91 would make a nice box...

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Yeah I think the Vince & Bruce era pick is coming this autumn. Judging from the 30 Dead Days downloads of recent years there are some great shows of that era I bet! I got to thinking of eras within eras and a perfect example of that recently would be 2021, with the releases of Dave's #39 & #40. The heavy organ and bass sound of the spring Philly 1983 show juxtaposing with the light as tinkling rain and bright as sparkling stars sound of Brents keys at Deer Creek 1990, arguably his last best shows. What a long and awesome strange trip!

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I know that both Harding shows (11/6/71 & 11/7/71) circulate in good audio—11/7 was an FM broadcast, BUT they're such good shows they deserve the official treatment, IMO. Does their already circulating status factor them out? Could there be a copyright issue with the station that broadcast 11/7? Full soundboards of both shows. Historic value? And the Dark Star>Other One>MAMU>Other One is interstellar. the transition back into TOO is like none other I've ever heard. 4 CD Harding remastered release please, esp. if '71 is underrepresented. : ^ ) : ^ ) : ^ )

Being in circulation, or FM broadcast, does not preclude official release.
The contents of DaP51 are in circulation, and 6-19-76 (that awesome ‘76 Box) was broadcast on FM.

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2/14/69 with filler from 2/15
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Philadelphia Pa.

I agree with Birchwood - that's a great show. Hopefully the readily available FM sourced versions won't mean it's off the table for an official release. It didn't stop them putting out 5/8/77, or various others available unofficially, so here's hoping.
Ain't never heard 11/6/71.
And definitely time for some `1968.

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Shipped. Looking forward to it.

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I'd rather a small '68 box Plangentized!

And a Radio '71 box...

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I am still hoping for the Ark shows as a box.

Nice. I almost bought one after your post. Except, I have a great subwoofer and I would have been buying it for inventory should mine have trouble. But mine is still kicking hard. Subs do change the entire soundscape created. Took me a long time to realize, no, there is not someone knocking on my door.

Nice pickup!!!

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....than I'm used to Gary.
Had to fine tune it. OMG it's glorious.
Tested it first with Yes's Close To The Edge vinyl.
Then Dave's 50 Eyes.
Currently Phish's Mansfield show from last night on the LivePhish app.
Mike!!
I'm not leaving the house for awhile.

I can only imagine how good close to the edge vinyl must be. Yeah I became much more of a home body once I got the subwoofer. Gonna be doing a partial couch tour with some of the Phish tour. Thought about the $600+ for whole tour, except they kind of force you to watch them faster than I can digest. I mean GD still king in this household. But really love Phish, huge 90's Phish fan.

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....got this particular piece of A/V equipment tuned.
Onto the Dave's 50 Terrapin bonus.
Oh boy.
But yeah. '90's Phish.
Thinking about playing the '95 Chicago shows next.
Enlightenment is a blessing.
This White Stripes Elephant record is trying to jump in line.
I only have two ears.
"Music is the best". Mr Ones has been awfully quite lately.
Hope he's ok.

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My first "beard" answer was "You have that rainbow feel, but the rainbow has a beard." - SWLABR

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Thanks for the heads up on the sub Vguy. I got one it's still in the box, what a great deal. I haven't had a new sub in 25 years...

"Not leaving the house for awhile" Going to have to listen to your whole music collection all over again? :-}

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Thought 2-7-69 with filler from 2-6 make a great Dave's Pick...

Then I thought hell do a Stanley Theater - Pittsburgh, PA box...

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First listen Disc 2, 3-23-74 DTS-Audio-CD Info...

Front
Left Channel SBD
Right Channel SBD

Center
Mixed to mono -1.5db SBD

Surround
Left Channel -0db AUD
Right Channel -0db AUD

Sub/LFE
Mixed to mono -1.5db SBD Reel

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Will wait till I grab a Black Thunder ll AQ cable...Break them in at together.

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Get behind Kamala or get ready to kiss the ring.

Get out and fookin' vote, people!

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...vs a convicted felon.
Go for the jugular.
Age is no longer an excuse.
Unless it is. Duhhhh.
I'm not kissing no ring ledded.

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Got on the ''Bus'' Late...1969, But By 1973 I saw Many a Show...With the 1970's being (To Me), The BEST Performances ever !,,,Thank You for offering a Great Year , 1971,,,,Looking Forward to this CD... The Hard to Handle sounds Superb !... The Dead at Their Best...AHO !

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