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  • icecrmcnkd
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    Grate story BC

    Wonder if there were other tapers who never released copies.

    Release the SBD Dave.

    Yes, I listened to the Dark Star>Slipknot theme twice.

  • 1stshow70878
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    Thanks BC

    For the taper story.
    Legendary indeed.
    Cheers

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    9/14/74 - Olympia Halle, Munich

    Oro on his ongoing trip through '74 had me revisit this overlooked show from Europe '74. (David Usborne matrix). Parts of the SBD are missing but don't be deterred, there's some great playing on this one!

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    Obeah - here's an edited/slightly reworked version of what I posted on another forum years ago. I'd go for the GEMS SBD remaster (152924). Not as jammed out as some '74 but there is some really and truly, very fine, music here (sound of Oro's foot tapping.) The Dark Star jam is unlike any out there and I really really dig it.

    Ca. 1997/98 – I was living in a small desert town. First worked here summer of ’95 and it was here that I first learned of Jerry’s passing (and still here 25+ years later). Jim, a long time resident (moved away years ago) and fellow Deadhead (saw Vegas Ice Palace ’69 I think) mentioned that a friend had come through town and left a list of tapes he had to trade/share. The friend was a river runner out of Flagstaff, would be back through town in a week or so. Jim invited me to take a look at the list and see if there was anything I wanted. It was a short list – all that I remember at this point is that it had the International Amphitheatre show, 7/25/74, complete show, an audience rated at C-. The show was unknown to me and, as a favorite year and a Chicago boy at heart (born and raised north suburbs), I asked for that one.

    One night a little while later the river runner friend came back through town. I remember standing outside in the summer dark talking to him for maybe 10-20 minutes, he only stopped to drop off tapes. It turned out that he had taped the show himself and it was the only show he ever taped. A cheap deck with the microphones hanging over the balcony railing (IIRC). He had talked to Phil outside the back door before the show and Phil had big time dosed him. Said that Phil sat on a stool for part of the show. He got all wide-eyed with nostalgic awe when he recalled the Ship of Fools encore – clearly the song had been a major religious experience. I think he handed me his masters to make a copy (or maybe he just dropped off a copy?), saying he would pick them up from our mutual friend on the way back through town. Don’t recall his name and never saw him again.

    Listening to the tapes you felt like you were way in the back of a cavernous space. To me, C- was possibly a generous grade, but with a pair of cheap headphones (all my gear was cheap at the time) - listening in the dark in the middle of the high desert night - you could be there, and for a poor boy in the backwoods of tapes it was a cool listen. I dubbed a couple of copies and sent one to Jeff, a close friend, who was back in the Chicago area – at the time he was managing Dr. Wax (a chain of several used record/CD stores/Jeff also founded and ran a niche record label Quinnah Records) A little while later Jeff calls me, all excited. “Where did you get this?? This is the only known recording of this show currently in circulation!!!” Circulation was a relative term in this case. Turns out Jeff had reached out/was in contact with the gentlemen who were putting together the first Tapers Compendium and, connected as they were, they knew of no other recordings of this show. The Compendium folks wanted him to review the tapes/show for the Compendium, but in the end it was too late because the book had just gone into galley(?) and it was too much trouble to revise it. This is the only ’74 show not reviewed/completely missing from the first edition Tapers Compendium Vol I.

    A bunch of high-end traders contacted Jeff requesting copies. When Jeff asked one what his opinion of the tapes were, the gentleman replied that it was pretty rough and that basically it was for completists only, but of course it had a heretofore uncirculated Dark Star with a Slipknot tease, which was everything you needed to know right there. This may have been at the time the only uncirculated Dark Star post-1970. Another commented that he thought he knew the person who might have the soundboard reels (or copies of them) but that they were holding them close. The SBD recording finally entered public circulation a few years later and Dave Lemieux (I raise a toast, or two or three, or more, in his honor) has featured portions of this show a time or three, I think, in the Jam of the Week and/or the Tapers Section/and 30 days of the Dead. So the masters are in the vault. The audience has never been uploaded to the archive.

    It makes me smile that this show first resurfaced from the depths of time (relatively speaking) in this dusty, high desert, town.

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    1972 was some great concerts in some out-of-the way places

  • Oroborous
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    Rise and shine lil Pedro
    Bfast in bed wiff the GD

  • proudfoot
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    RIP Jerry Miller of Moby Grape

    Passed in Tacoma at 81

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    Disc 4 of "Unlabled 1968 GD"

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    The SS is a very early version

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    ...a small bit of squawking or is it squonking...someone recently mentioned Ornette Coleman with the Boys in 1993...anyway PHILA 1973 SEPT 21 Set 2 should fill the jones with guests Martin Fiero & Joe Ellis

    Peace for All!
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    Lyceum Theatre

    Peace

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JohnSiddique - that's an incredible album. There is a superb box set that came out a few years ago called "In Search of Hades" which features all Tangerine Dreams albums for Virgin between 1973 and 1979, plus outtakes and live concerts. Included are 2 cds of outtakes from "Phaedra" which are so good they could easily have been released as official follow ups to the album in question. Highly recommended!

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Fox Theatre
St. Louis

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You are in the zone!

:)))

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The Palladium

Proudfoot
I'm in the short side of life, and still have a lot of listening left.
Lol

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...Rock Scully's book "Twenty Years on the Bus with Garcia and The Grateful Dead - LIVING WITH THE DEAD"
crazy, excessive, obsessive, mournful, heartbreaking...if you haven't read it, make the time to read and gain an insider's view of an artist's life on the road

Today, it's Baltimore 1972 Sept 17th [diP #23]
this is the GOOD stuff

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Excellent show from the Giants box. I believe it was VGUY, not that long ago, was commenting on this show (about Phil I think).

I think Phil was a bit of an MVP in the Welnick era. Many Phil-lead jams from this era are fantastic! Check out Playin>Terrapin from RFK 6/26/93 or the Terrapin from Deer Creek 93, to name but a couple.

This 6/16/91 show stands in the shadow of 6/17/91, but its a damn fine show, none the less!!

Rock on, gang

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Ahead of schedule, so why not some early 80!

Tis Jonathan, surely is.

Ole Rock. Interesting read, but probably not so accurate lol
At least that’s what other insiders suggest…

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Bob James 3 w/ Grover Washington Jr.
A cocktail jazz album I likely bought in early college era ('76?) and got a lot of play at parties when we were trying to impress the girls with our sophisticated tastes, lol. The CTI jazz label always had all star casts of players on albums like Hubert Laws, Eric Gale, Jon Faddis, and so many others. Maynard Ferguson thought Bob was a great producer too.
Cheers

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Bit of a creeper?

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In order, spread out over the last 3 nights.
Wrapping up the 19th now.

Time for the World Music Theater Box 7-21,22,23-90 complete audio and video.

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Fox Theatre
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...there's 1973 for today after yesterday's wonderful baltimore show;
1973 march 22 set 2 utica ny
thank you very much

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oro, of course any & all of the family's/relative's written remembrances are being taken with a grain of salt

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Just finished a rip roaring 5/1/80 for those who love 80.
Yeah it’s and Aud, but Doctor Bob does a good job and the audience factor isn’t bad!
Ragging into 5/2/80, whoa…opener sounds like the boys are ready to rock!
Another Doc B aud, which so far has more audience, but at least no, ya know ; )

Yeah Uncle, they all have their own angle lol. Which I guess is normal?
Bet Bobs would be interesting if he could ever finish it lol

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9 15 90
MSG

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This show has a very special feel to it. I am impressed.

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Ohio Theatre [2nd Set]

That excellent Dicks, Vol. 2.

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Hearing that release years ago at a local park is a treasured experience

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From 30 Trips.

The DSBD’s from the 90’s usually sound real good.
We could use a few more released.
Maybe in 2025 we’ll get 30 Trips Part 2.

Update:
Jerry’s belting it out at the end of So Many Roads.
And he sings ‘to heal’ rather than ‘to ease’ or ‘to tease’.
SMR is a grate late-era song.

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Husker Du zen arcade
Husker Du new day rising

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Think about the quick turnaround

Brent dies on July 26

GD play next show only 43 days later

That's extremely remarkable

I have never heard 9/7 nor 9/8

None of Philly

Gotta check out 9 7 and 8 for historical purposes at least

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Fall 1990 is an absolute testament to the bands talent. Also a reality check as far as being prepared for crisis. I can't imagine the excitement/terror running through Vince Welnick veins when the house lights went down on 9/7/90

I believe the boys, including Vince and soon Bruce, played their asses off for the fans and themselves! Resulting in a damn fine tour.

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Were not bad at all.
The building was electric…what would happen? Would they suck, lots of apprehension etc. But after they started playing the whole building seemed to breath this ubiquitous sigh of relief, and yes, this will be different, but it’s gonna be alright!
Definitely check them out! Yeah Jonathan, I think they tried to do well on the tour because of the situation. I’ve not heard all of fall 90, but what I’ve heard I’ve enjoyed! Reminds me to hit that RT that I’ve only recently received. Good Sheet Mon!

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Beacon Theatre

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Excellent show

I was a little "ugh-y" at the last two tracks of set 2 (can you guess which two I am refering to?) but I accepted and moved on quickly

Onward to 9/16/90

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Husker Du new day rising "celebrated summer"

One of my favorite songs of all time

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Good, but maybe a step off the previous few?

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Zappa: You Can't Do That Onstage Anymore, Vol 2

I run hot on cold when it comes to Frank, whose "humor" I often find obnoxious. But man, the band on this gig? Unbelievable.

And some of jokes are actually funny!

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A personal favorite

The China Rider...the first time I visited Lysergia I FELT it coming on during that combo

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Decided to join in.

European tour was already booked. At World Music Theater they were passing out flyers for Europe travel packages. Then Brent departed.
Had to fill the position quick, but Bruce refused to become the permanent replacement.
The Tubes were done, and Vince tried out for the job……

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Madison Square Garden

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...sad to say that I was done with the crowds and extraneous BS after Oxford 7/3/88.
After learning of Brent's passing while vacationing in Acadia & Bar Harbor, Maine, the decision was made to see the Fat Man as much as possible moving forward before it was too late.
My 1st show back to see the "new" GD was 9/16 @ MSG and so thankful.
Crowd reactions were great, and Hornsby's grand facing Garcia allowed them to easily exchange smiles...and while things are always in perpetual motion...at the time we were all SO happy to be able to experience
the GOGD, no matter what iteration the band happened to be in.

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...to find out...1973 October 30 Kiel Aud is a great way to move into the weekend, so every one enjoy another summer weekend and...that you are the eyes of the world!

Peace for you today and everyday!
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GD at Woodstock

I'd listen to that, but after I heard it last time I decided...never again.

I want to listen to the MSG box...I have so many others to listen to first. MSG 90, Greeks 89, April 78...

Please Lord, grant me time to listen to all of this wonderful stuff

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The "Dark Star" is okay - I might play that later, but the rest of the set is a bit of a dog. A much better bet would be Jimi Hendrix from later the same day. This is one of my favourite Jimi Hendrix shows - the closing "Star Spangled Banner -Purple Haze - Woodstock Improvisation - Villanova Junction" has to be heard...and seen...to be believed.

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Wow.

Just...

Wow.

He's Gone to end of encore is truly special.

:)))

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The Cars

First album

Beautiful stuff

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Playing now.

Maybe I’ll watch the movie tomorrow night.
Will at least watch Hendrix.

One of many who died waaay too young

Buddy Holly...22!

Meanwhile, some people just keep on ticking.

Newsflash: life ain't always fair

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Frost Amphitheatre

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It's an amazing privilege to grow old. If you can access medical treatment, as most of us on here seem to be able to, then we can now live much longer than in earlier years or in more disadvantaged countries. With further medical treatment to help us in old age, we have a lot to be grateful for.