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    "Tempest" by Bob Dylan. How come he has made so many great albums ? Most people I know haven't made any.

  • Oroborous
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    A lot to do today!
    3/17/95 currently
    3/18&19/95 Shlater…

    RE: Late era SBs…
    I’m guessing John Cutler wasn’t letting folks patch in direct for whatever reason. I would certainly assume they made recordings.
    I.e., Like the DATs used for the released DaPs…
    Yeah, Harry Popick, the longtime monitor guy (at big mix desk left of Phil) might have been eventually delegated to making recordings? That would make it less likely for direct feeds to tapers…I’m guessing he must have had a master mix for guests or himself (he can hear any of the mixes individually or any combination) since the individual musician mixes were custom, which often did not include all the other musicians and definitely would have had things in their mix at different levels so a feed like that would probably sound pretty goofy to a civilian? i.e., smidge of kick drum, low bass, loud vocals, yours a tad louder, JG, no Vinny…you can customize it any way you like.
    Now if someone had a comprehensive, balanced mix, THAT, could sound good, but in my experience, most musicians don’t want everything, or certain things up in their mix, if in it at all.
    BITD we didn’t have in ears, so you often would just put certain things in your floor monitor mix, since you’d still hear most of the instruments etc from their amps (and often the PA) I mostly had vocals, a little kick drum, and any acoustic instruments I couldn’t other wise hear. It gets easily cluttered up so you learn to use just what you really need. But they of course were on a whole different level utilizing dozens of channels all custom mixed to their preferences.
    Very interesting though? We’ll have to learn more about it.
    There definitely are monitor mixes on arch labeled as SBs, but you’d have to think they have better stuff than that in the vault.
    PLUS!, remember, this is the digital age now and folks were starting to bring in some serious digital gear by the end…so I can see the band not allowing direct hi res board feeds to such gear, which you could only really guarantee by not having any direct feeds. Pesky DH pranksters would find a way given the opportunity lol
    Berry interesting…

    Oh, yeah they had a talk feature so they could communicate verbally if need be, which since certain individuals didn’t have everyone in there mix could be helpful,., it was fun when occasionally that would accidentally get into the main PA mix and we’d hear it out front.

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    ...in phl
    aug 4th 1974

    keep smilin'

    PEACE for ALL!
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  • icecrmcnkd
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    93-95 SBD’s

    Many/most that I’ve heard that are labeled ‘SBD’ are actually ear monitor.
    I read years ago that the ear monitors were run by a separate soundboard on side stage which is why you can hear the band members talk to each other.
    I don’t think that they sound as good as a true ‘SBD’.
    I suspect that the true SBD’s do exist, due to the ease at the time of just recording to a HD, and they are being withheld.

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    2-27-69 vinyl

    Didn’t get to it on the anniversary so doing it now.

    12-inch Klipsch subwoofer makes Phil the star.

  • JimInMD
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    Late Era Shows and SBDS

    I wonder why that is? My guess is Latvala just wasn't passing those around but it's just a guess.

  • Oroborous
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    3/35&26/95 today

    3/24/95 yesterday: not bad, JG muffs a couple vocals but plays well and seems good overall. Can’t believe how many late era shows don’t have SBs?
    JC must have not been giving board patches?

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    Thelma bonus disc

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    Tasty little show

    Good Lovin > China Cat Sunflower > Good Lovin

    Oh, yeah...

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    The Grateful Dead at their best!

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JohnSiddique - that's an incredible album. There is a superb box set that came out a few years ago called "In Search of Hades" which features all Tangerine Dreams albums for Virgin between 1973 and 1979, plus outtakes and live concerts. Included are 2 cds of outtakes from "Phaedra" which are so good they could easily have been released as official follow ups to the album in question. Highly recommended!

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Fox Theatre
St. Louis

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You are in the zone!

:)))

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The Palladium

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I'm in the short side of life, and still have a lot of listening left.
Lol

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...Rock Scully's book "Twenty Years on the Bus with Garcia and The Grateful Dead - LIVING WITH THE DEAD"
crazy, excessive, obsessive, mournful, heartbreaking...if you haven't read it, make the time to read and gain an insider's view of an artist's life on the road

Today, it's Baltimore 1972 Sept 17th [diP #23]
this is the GOOD stuff

Peace for All!
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Excellent show from the Giants box. I believe it was VGUY, not that long ago, was commenting on this show (about Phil I think).

I think Phil was a bit of an MVP in the Welnick era. Many Phil-lead jams from this era are fantastic! Check out Playin>Terrapin from RFK 6/26/93 or the Terrapin from Deer Creek 93, to name but a couple.

This 6/16/91 show stands in the shadow of 6/17/91, but its a damn fine show, none the less!!

Rock on, gang

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Ahead of schedule, so why not some early 80!

Tis Jonathan, surely is.

Ole Rock. Interesting read, but probably not so accurate lol
At least that’s what other insiders suggest…

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Bob James 3 w/ Grover Washington Jr.
A cocktail jazz album I likely bought in early college era ('76?) and got a lot of play at parties when we were trying to impress the girls with our sophisticated tastes, lol. The CTI jazz label always had all star casts of players on albums like Hubert Laws, Eric Gale, Jon Faddis, and so many others. Maynard Ferguson thought Bob was a great producer too.
Cheers

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Bit of a creeper?

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In order, spread out over the last 3 nights.
Wrapping up the 19th now.

Time for the World Music Theater Box 7-21,22,23-90 complete audio and video.

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Fox Theatre
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...there's 1973 for today after yesterday's wonderful baltimore show;
1973 march 22 set 2 utica ny
thank you very much

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oro, of course any & all of the family's/relative's written remembrances are being taken with a grain of salt

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Just finished a rip roaring 5/1/80 for those who love 80.
Yeah it’s and Aud, but Doctor Bob does a good job and the audience factor isn’t bad!
Ragging into 5/2/80, whoa…opener sounds like the boys are ready to rock!
Another Doc B aud, which so far has more audience, but at least no, ya know ; )

Yeah Uncle, they all have their own angle lol. Which I guess is normal?
Bet Bobs would be interesting if he could ever finish it lol

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9 15 90
MSG

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This show has a very special feel to it. I am impressed.

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Ohio Theatre [2nd Set]

That excellent Dicks, Vol. 2.

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Hearing that release years ago at a local park is a treasured experience

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From 30 Trips.

The DSBD’s from the 90’s usually sound real good.
We could use a few more released.
Maybe in 2025 we’ll get 30 Trips Part 2.

Update:
Jerry’s belting it out at the end of So Many Roads.
And he sings ‘to heal’ rather than ‘to ease’ or ‘to tease’.
SMR is a grate late-era song.

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Husker Du zen arcade
Husker Du new day rising

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Think about the quick turnaround

Brent dies on July 26

GD play next show only 43 days later

That's extremely remarkable

I have never heard 9/7 nor 9/8

None of Philly

Gotta check out 9 7 and 8 for historical purposes at least

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Fall 1990 is an absolute testament to the bands talent. Also a reality check as far as being prepared for crisis. I can't imagine the excitement/terror running through Vince Welnick veins when the house lights went down on 9/7/90

I believe the boys, including Vince and soon Bruce, played their asses off for the fans and themselves! Resulting in a damn fine tour.

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Were not bad at all.
The building was electric…what would happen? Would they suck, lots of apprehension etc. But after they started playing the whole building seemed to breath this ubiquitous sigh of relief, and yes, this will be different, but it’s gonna be alright!
Definitely check them out! Yeah Jonathan, I think they tried to do well on the tour because of the situation. I’ve not heard all of fall 90, but what I’ve heard I’ve enjoyed! Reminds me to hit that RT that I’ve only recently received. Good Sheet Mon!

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Beacon Theatre

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Excellent show

I was a little "ugh-y" at the last two tracks of set 2 (can you guess which two I am refering to?) but I accepted and moved on quickly

Onward to 9/16/90

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Husker Du new day rising "celebrated summer"

One of my favorite songs of all time

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Good, but maybe a step off the previous few?

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Zappa: You Can't Do That Onstage Anymore, Vol 2

I run hot on cold when it comes to Frank, whose "humor" I often find obnoxious. But man, the band on this gig? Unbelievable.

And some of jokes are actually funny!

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A personal favorite

The China Rider...the first time I visited Lysergia I FELT it coming on during that combo

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Decided to join in.

European tour was already booked. At World Music Theater they were passing out flyers for Europe travel packages. Then Brent departed.
Had to fill the position quick, but Bruce refused to become the permanent replacement.
The Tubes were done, and Vince tried out for the job……

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Madison Square Garden

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...sad to say that I was done with the crowds and extraneous BS after Oxford 7/3/88.
After learning of Brent's passing while vacationing in Acadia & Bar Harbor, Maine, the decision was made to see the Fat Man as much as possible moving forward before it was too late.
My 1st show back to see the "new" GD was 9/16 @ MSG and so thankful.
Crowd reactions were great, and Hornsby's grand facing Garcia allowed them to easily exchange smiles...and while things are always in perpetual motion...at the time we were all SO happy to be able to experience
the GOGD, no matter what iteration the band happened to be in.

Peace for All!
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...to find out...1973 October 30 Kiel Aud is a great way to move into the weekend, so every one enjoy another summer weekend and...that you are the eyes of the world!

Peace for you today and everyday!
uncle_tripel

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GD at Woodstock

I'd listen to that, but after I heard it last time I decided...never again.

I want to listen to the MSG box...I have so many others to listen to first. MSG 90, Greeks 89, April 78...

Please Lord, grant me time to listen to all of this wonderful stuff

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The "Dark Star" is okay - I might play that later, but the rest of the set is a bit of a dog. A much better bet would be Jimi Hendrix from later the same day. This is one of my favourite Jimi Hendrix shows - the closing "Star Spangled Banner -Purple Haze - Woodstock Improvisation - Villanova Junction" has to be heard...and seen...to be believed.

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Wow.

Just...

Wow.

He's Gone to end of encore is truly special.

:)))

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The Cars

First album

Beautiful stuff

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Playing now.

Maybe I’ll watch the movie tomorrow night.
Will at least watch Hendrix.

One of many who died waaay too young

Buddy Holly...22!

Meanwhile, some people just keep on ticking.

Newsflash: life ain't always fair

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Frost Amphitheatre

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It's an amazing privilege to grow old. If you can access medical treatment, as most of us on here seem to be able to, then we can now live much longer than in earlier years or in more disadvantaged countries. With further medical treatment to help us in old age, we have a lot to be grateful for.