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  • Oroborous
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    4/12/78

    Hmmmm?
    Another quirky good but inconsistent show?
    Definitely a creeper. Starts a bit off (technically and otherwise) but by mid set they start settling in and syncing up. Second set, like much of this tour may not be flawless, but their is some fine playing and highlights!. And I’ll have to find that video cause wondering WTH was up with JG at the end etc? Wow?
    These shows are hard to pin down, interesting run.
    14 mañana…

  • Oroborous
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    True dat

    Absolutely no noise reduction ON THE RECORDING, but that doesn’t mean some kind of processing on the final release, and, it seemed like 4/12 sounded much different, especially in the frequency spectrum we’ve been discussing.
    There are other ways in mastering to treat noise beyond basic noise reduction, like, not your 80s tape deck Dolby…
    I’ve been looking at pics and some don’t seem to have overhead drum mics where others certainly do. But haven’t dug deep so don’t know dates that correspond to pics etc. Just wonder if that was something Betty was messing with as she’s known for her mic placement perhaps above all else…
    Also noticed JG moved into the center, and Bob to the left, (as per their stage orientation at the time) of the soundstage on maybe the 10th? Before that they were switched, and the 12 all kinds of things going on lol,
    Always fun to try and dissect things!

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    Noise redution?

    No where in the notes does it state any noise reduction was used in the reel recording of any of the shows in the box.

    Will be doing the 15th tomorrow!

    Going to have to listen to the 11th again as I thought they were a little out of sync...

  • Oroborous
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    4/12/78

    Previously, Only heard this one once, thought it was good but overshadowed by the 11, 15 and 16th…let’s see after proper sit down if it matches the hype…

    Think 4/11 was tops so far, but 4/6 seemed to stand out too. These shows are sneaky good. Meaning sometimes you have to wait for it. The dynamics are often impressive. Not freight train Dead like you might expect from this period, but often nice subtle build ups/peaks. You can tell their having fun, getting loose and digging the smaller venues.
    Really tasty when their all in sync etc, (sometimes the looseness is a tad much) and 4/11 is a good example of being synced up!
    And DG has been improving nicely as the tour has progressed and has some real moments here.
    That Sunrise is one of the most powerful I’ve heard, and some songs she’s carrying the lead vocals. Meaning on shared vocals, she is often the strongest most consistent, which allows J &B more latitude.
    And the sound is great on all so far, but I too will compare with 37, which I recall is the benchmark of this tour…

    I do understand 4winds “cymbal” comments. Don’t have torrents to compare, but they aren’t prevalently splashing all over so ?…
    It doesn’t seem like an issue to me, and probably wouldn’t notice it if I wasn’t trying to…guessing mastering, probably added some shimmer to the torrents versus some noise reduction, tape restoration, age etc, or, perhaps artifacts from different machines used to record copies from the masters, versus Bettys reel decks and masters…

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    4/14 set 2

    here we go! set 1 was okay! I like where set 2 is going...

    Samson oh yeah!! Lions Den for sure!! Growls...

    Music swinging!!

    The Natives are restless!

    That was fun!

    Love them while you can, for someday they'll be gone.

  • proudfoot
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    4 11 78

    When i first heard it back in later 80s I was amazed at the post drumz sequence. I didnt know they had done it.

    Nowadays its like "cool"
    Back then it was like "wow!"

    At the moment
    4 14 78 looks Like Rain (never one of my favorites)

    Due to holiday no need to go to work so plenny o' GD

    Yay!

  • icecrmcnkd
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    4-14-78

    I’m going in order and will do 4-15 next to see (hear) how it compares to the Box.

    I like 4-10 and 11 a lot, but they’re also burned into my synapses from having them on cassette and then CD-R.

  • proudfoot
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    this series of shows

    nothing has really caught fire for me (I am jumping around in the sequence)

    however

    4/14/78 before work today sounded hot.

    also:

    in the car I am listening to 10/8/89

    good stuff
    really good stuff

  • Oroborous
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    4/11/78

    Hoping it’s as good as I recall…
    4/10 was not, in fact, bit of a dog, perhaps worst so far?
    Not a bad show, just more inconsistent and several notable flubberies etc…
    Let’s find out ; )
    Onward!

  • 1stshow70878
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    JAX - middle of 1st set.
    (edit - nice Estimated/Eyes in 2nd set)
    Still most impressed with 4-6-78 so far.
    Glad I got this box, I have skipped some.
    Cheers

    Recent listens:
    Fleetwood Mac - Future Games LP
    Teruo Nakamura - Manhattan Special LP (with Herbie Hancock)
    Pat Martino - Joyous Lake LP
    4-6-78 Tampa
    4-7-78 Hollywood

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from Live In Gdansk

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Jefferson Airplane. Jerry plays on it. I'd forgotten how good this was

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8/21 was another enjoyable show with another fun set list etc.

Ok, now onto 8/23, if I finish it’ll be another DHB, and will get me complete for 1980 up to the Warfield run.
It’s been fun/interesting, but ready to move on, just:
“ I dunno what I’m going for, but I’m gonna go for it for sure!”
Saving last of 69, 89, for end of year, rest of 84 for October, so maybe back to fall 94? Ah well, hang it up and see what tomorrow brings…

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Spinning now.
Sounds pretty good except my pressing has various snaps, crackles, and pops.

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Autzen Stadium

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...a little grace...1987-09-23 spectrum in phila with a happy grinning mr. garcia doin' a jammin' version "La Bamba"

y arriba, y arriba
por ti sere, por ti sere, por ti sere

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On a hot streak of downloads.

These guys put out some great shit, on the archive if interested.

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Literally, out for morning walk, down by the creek, as the winds are playing the willows : )

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Very nice - some favorite music is wind in trees - like a big old ponderosa or cottonwood.

Right now here in bluecrow land its the 8/3/69 Dark Star at the Family Dog with mystery guest musicians. Not sure how this escaped my attention so long.

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80 has been fun, but I’m so ahead of shed u ual, and PF keeps talkin bout fall 90, another crater to fill, so, well, just gotta poke around ; )

8/3/69: is that the one with the Sax and fiddle?
Yeah, that DS is muy bien! Good show/Sheet Mon!

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Onward!
Last one was hot, how will this one compare?
(Nice Usborne matrixes)

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Baltimore Civic Center

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Yeah Oro, that one with the sax and electric violin! Listened from Dark Star through end of show. First time. Right in the sweet spot and just exactly perfect. The 2 mystery guests are excellent and fully integrated in The One. Loved it. Time and again just slack jawed at how cool this is.

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Saw the date coming up and I've been listening to an old fav, 8/21/72 Berkeley Community Theater.

I figured I'd get through it yesterday at work but things were unexpectedly busy so I only got a few songs into set I. Had to keep going today. Nice problem to have.

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Gonna do 9 7 90 really soon

I havent heard Europe 90 except for 11 1 90 set 2 a long time ago on cassette and a soso 10 31 90 cassette set 2...i think there is a Scarlet Fire. I can still hear the opening percussion to VOTC from 11 1 in my mind

Looking forward to hearing that tour

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Oakland Auditorium

Was chatting with Gary Farseer last weekend on the greatness of this show. I figured I'd give it another listen today on my quarterly trip to the heart failure clinic.

Also, I scored a brand new Sunshine box set which is out for delivery today. Shroom Saturday is looking like it will be great tomorrow!

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Enjoy that HCS Box TN John. It is spectacular! Sound quality is A+. 6/10 might be one of my favorite shows. Can't get enough of that one.

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Onward!

Can’t believe I didn’t go to these Philly shows, the rectum was sorta a go to for us. Somehow saw more shows there then any other venue.
Guessing between relatively new job and still tying to deal with the debt accrued by taking the “20 year old” to Cali shows in June, and not getting paid back a nickel!. I’m sure I had to cover most of Richfield too lol
…it’s a real shame they gotta cost so much” lol.
Aaaa, but looking back, it was worth every dollar…
Se la vie!

E90: me neither PF. I have part of 11/01 on my server, but that’s all I’ve heard, yet!

EDIT: TN with the big score, and it ain’t even hockey season yet ; )
And itsssssss fry yea! Too soon for one of those Oktoberfest DV?

OBEAH: love it, gonna moa some veggies, just as soon as I get back from the heart attack machine! When the going gets weird…

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9/12: good, but I felt like it was a bit off the first two shows?

Fun set list, and most certainly some really high moments (like the whole D/S/cabin boy/dew), but perhaps like some of fall 89, going along good then occasionally some muffed execution. So good but maybe not RJ? I’ll definitely have to check these out again! But, now onto 9/14/90, the big apple, don’t mind the maggots, sha Doo bie…

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Deer Creek

Sunshine box came today. Gonna try to get a couple of shows ripped tonight for my cosmic adventure tomorrow.

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Listened to it in the car this week.

Note that it’s in 30Trips.

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Check your CD’s for glue.

The glue can be removed with rubbing alcohol on a Q-tip.
Once cleaned don’t put the CD’s back in the cardboard holders.

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Anniversary listen.

It’s CD3 of the expanded Two From The Vault.

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The Octoberfest will be flowing tonight!
You would think they would have to let us know soon about this year's MUATM.

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TNJ - congrats on obtaining that great box set. Enjoy! Not sure you listened in on the cd quality issues BITD - some of those boxes, mine included, had a whole lot of problems, especially glue on the playing surface. Like ConeKid said, rubbing alcohol (70%) - also antiseptic isopropyl alcohol (91%) - will remove that stuff. Hopefully your box is one of the clean ones.

As luck and synchronicity would have it, in just last few days I was finally able to successfully rip every disc to my HD - initially 6 or so had skips (always in key jams). Had never had that issue ripping any cd before with that external drive and feel it had to do with the cds on some basic level. An unrelated software issue that I finally was able to resolve had me revisit ripping those discs with a different external drive and to my great delight and surprise they all seemed to rip clean and I've been dancing back and forth between the 5 shows listening to sections here and there, some that had problems to verify they're good now and some just cause I want to hear them. HCS was a dream box for me - I think I called for it at least a year before it was announced (not that I ever expected it to happen) - so to get a box with a lot of quality issues was "sort of" a real big problem. Along with glue and scratches, none of the discs were properly/fully inserted in their slot and so they all were in a flexed position and I wondered if the ripping issue was related to that. Quite frustrated, I transferred them all to jewel cases and basically they went untouched for almost a year until these last few days. And now all is better.

Currently playing 5/20/73 Santa Barbara, the Here Comes Sunshine from Disc 2.

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Almost at the end

Fantastic show

Even though Grumpy Grumpkins here isn't thrilled that Throwing Stones bubbles up

The music prior to that is really good

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Beautiful run of shows

I imagine it must have cathartic to play so well after the useless tragedy of Brent dying

God Bless the Grateful Dead

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Hey BC, I also have these CDs in jewel cases as the slip cases are not the best.

Let's hope the new box has better cases. I always liked the cases in both Spring 90 box sets and the PNW box.

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Iowa State Fairgrounds

Thanks for all the feedback guys. Most of my discs weren't even fully inserted into the sleeves. Got the first 2 shows ripped, and Casey Jones back where it belongs on the first show.

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8/24/68 Two from the vault
8/24/19 TTB Layla (later on)

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14 was sweet, so onto 15

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a best of Joy Division

Absolutely tremendous band

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Me and Mrs. Grumpkins are going to a Santana and Counting Crows show

Saw Santana open for GD in 88 and 91

Tonight makes a hat trick

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McFarlin Auditorium, SMU

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A real epic. With these vinyl box sets I like to just play 2 sides at a time, so it takes a day or so to listen to the whole show. The L.P. version features a run through Seastones, and the next track they play is El Paso. I can't think of any other band that would play two pieces of music so different from each other one after the other in concert.

It would have been interesting if they had incorporated Seastones type music within some of their jams. It always seems to sit outside the shows in which it was played. A first set. Then an electronic blizzard. Then normal service is resumed when the second set starts. It would have been very interesting if they had included some of these sounds in Dark Star, for example.
The closest they got to it may have been Unbroken Chain on Mars Hotel.

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6/8/77 :)

Man I should go for 8/23/68 myself...

It looks like TN is just ripping right through a who's who of official releases. It would be too dangerous to stop now....

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Just kicking off Dave's 24, 8/25/72

Last night of a legendary four-night stand at the BCT, and it's the show before Veneta... the setlist doesn't jump off the page at you, but 8/21 and 8/24 more than sufficed to scratch that itch, and besides you know this one's going to be lovely from the very opening notes. Entire band just playing well and having fun.

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Ready for 8-24-72 to be released Dave.
Or make it a BCT mini Box.

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I love this release (DaP 24). Been awhile and it sounds great. The Other One is fire. Jerry goofing with Professor Bob before El Paso after Bob warbles (a faint) Frozen Logger and tries to start a history lesson - "This ain't Kentucky man, it's Berkeley!" Followed shortly by "He had roses for lunch" which may be my favorite line of banter ever. Release the rest of the run (or even include this show with plangent!) and throw in 8/14 and 15 from the year before for a sweet BCT box.

9/16/90 - I (think) I got this on tape muy pronto BITD or maybe heard it on the GDH. Definitely remember listening with big ears to the Set II, with the space jams out of He's Gone and sandwiching SOTM just huge. Maybe the first post-Brent stuff I heard and it was way deep. I'm pretty sure I bought this as DiP 9 but when I looked for it in the collection last year (cause I wanted to revisit it) it was MIA.

Nassau

My son installed a new hard drive and a new dvd/cd writer in this pc yesterday while I was at work. This baby flies now!

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...from Good Time People...The Grateful Dead"
1972-08-24 Berkeley Community Theatre
luv these '72 Bird Song's, this one's the 20th live version

Peace for All!
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DiP 25 New Haven.
Raucous Jack Straw to start with Jerry doing that '78 "arrgh" growling thing in there. Within a very short time before the second song Bobby is already taunting him with a "We are all waiting patiently for Jerry to get his act together and decide what he's going to do." To which Jerry can be easily heard off mike saying "Cut all your crap asshole." Then they do They Love Each Other. Do they?
Cheers
The sound quality on this is superb!

It might mean he had doses for lunch ! I always seem to notice Bob Weirs playing more in 1972 shows than from any other year. Whether he was higher in the mix then I know not. Exceptional guitar playing - that I do know. Nobody else played like that.
I must say, I am very impressed with the way people zip through shows on here.

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Listening to Archives Vol 3 to prepare for Vol 4 next month. Before that I played my favourite’Pink Floyd’ album, The Madcap Laughs by Syd Barrett.