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  • Oroborous
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    Duke video

    Finally checked it last night, wow.
    Puts a whole new spin on things!
    These shows just got even better…

    Definitely overheads, but that doesn’t surprise as it’s the first 2 or three shows that sound different.

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    Drums and microphones

    Check the 4-12-78 video, maybe there’s a good shot of the drum setup.

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    4/14/78

    See how this one stands up..
    Curious about the sound stage and recording consistency?

    EDIT: this one mos def moved up a notch from the one previous time I heard it.
    Really sweet show, perhaps most well played consistent of all so far?
    Perhaps same with the mix/audio…definitely cymbals now, and everyone is in their proper soundstage position etc, good sheet Mon!
    Overall, Maybe not some of the previous fireworks but very few lows. Only Ooops, and a small one, I can think of was in the otherwise delightful Dancing! It’s like their coalescing or morphing into a cohesive beast, but one with patience and finesse, and having a fine time doing so!
    Eager to see how the 15 resonates after this one?
    Mañana…

    Overhead mics: yeah, I’m well aware what they are/for, i was trying to imply that “if” she hadn’t used them at some of the shows, then that might explain less prevalent cymbals…or maybe they were used but turned down…
    since the pictures aren’t dated it’s hard to determine. In fact the pic on the last page shows Bob playing an Ibanez Musician Series guitar, which from the pictures I’ve seen (if dated correctly) he used from 5/5/78 until Egypt. So is that picture not from this tour, or did he use it at some point on the tour?
    I’ve seen pics of Jerry trying one out also, but no idea when?

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    4/15 Dap sounds better?

    Rolling into the 15th hot! After second set from the 14th.

    B.E. is all over the place. Funny at times! LIG cooks!!

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    Drum mic's

    Among others they would have a mic over each drummer either hanging or on stands four feet above each drum kit since sound rises from the drums, cymbals.

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    4 11 78

    Finished 10 8 89 and 4 14 78 earlier today

    Scarlet Fire

    GBtGD

  • Oroborous
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    4/12/78

    Hmmmm?
    Another quirky good but inconsistent show?
    Definitely a creeper. Starts a bit off (technically and otherwise) but by mid set they start settling in and syncing up. Second set, like much of this tour may not be flawless, but their is some fine playing and highlights!. And I’ll have to find that video cause wondering WTH was up with JG at the end etc? Wow?
    These shows are hard to pin down, interesting run.
    14 mañana…

  • Oroborous
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    True dat

    Absolutely no noise reduction ON THE RECORDING, but that doesn’t mean some kind of processing on the final release, and, it seemed like 4/12 sounded much different, especially in the frequency spectrum we’ve been discussing.
    There are other ways in mastering to treat noise beyond basic noise reduction, like, not your 80s tape deck Dolby…
    I’ve been looking at pics and some don’t seem to have overhead drum mics where others certainly do. But haven’t dug deep so don’t know dates that correspond to pics etc. Just wonder if that was something Betty was messing with as she’s known for her mic placement perhaps above all else…
    Also noticed JG moved into the center, and Bob to the left, (as per their stage orientation at the time) of the soundstage on maybe the 10th? Before that they were switched, and the 12 all kinds of things going on lol,
    Always fun to try and dissect things!

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    Noise redution?

    No where in the notes does it state any noise reduction was used in the reel recording of any of the shows in the box.

    Will be doing the 15th tomorrow!

    Going to have to listen to the 11th again as I thought they were a little out of sync...

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    4/12/78

    Previously, Only heard this one once, thought it was good but overshadowed by the 11, 15 and 16th…let’s see after proper sit down if it matches the hype…

    Think 4/11 was tops so far, but 4/6 seemed to stand out too. These shows are sneaky good. Meaning sometimes you have to wait for it. The dynamics are often impressive. Not freight train Dead like you might expect from this period, but often nice subtle build ups/peaks. You can tell their having fun, getting loose and digging the smaller venues.
    Really tasty when their all in sync etc, (sometimes the looseness is a tad much) and 4/11 is a good example of being synced up!
    And DG has been improving nicely as the tour has progressed and has some real moments here.
    That Sunrise is one of the most powerful I’ve heard, and some songs she’s carrying the lead vocals. Meaning on shared vocals, she is often the strongest most consistent, which allows J &B more latitude.
    And the sound is great on all so far, but I too will compare with 37, which I recall is the benchmark of this tour…

    I do understand 4winds “cymbal” comments. Don’t have torrents to compare, but they aren’t prevalently splashing all over so ?…
    It doesn’t seem like an issue to me, and probably wouldn’t notice it if I wasn’t trying to…guessing mastering, probably added some shimmer to the torrents versus some noise reduction, tape restoration, age etc, or, perhaps artifacts from different machines used to record copies from the masters, versus Bettys reel decks and masters…

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Hope the streak keeps going and I win Mega Millions tonight.

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10 31 91

Standing on the Moon is sublime

Wow

Heavy show, bro

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Bob Mould - Workbook

Prior to that
Side 2 of Husker Du - New Day Rising

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The Dead at their best. Lets get this one released, please.

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9/17, 18, 19, 20/70

My sense is that that won't happen, though

I hope I am incorrect in that judgment

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...a nickel, he hands you a dime...

Shoreline May 10th 1991 tight, wonderful interplay, sweet mix

...he asks you with a grin, if you’re havin’ a good time!

Peace for All!
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Also heard it sung;
Hands you a nickel.
Calls it a dime.
Which somehow I like better.
Just makes him all the sleazier, lol.
Cheers

RGM sale: DiP 33 (8-LP), was $175, now $140

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3 9 81

HOT

Have you hugged your MSG box lately?

If you don't have a copy, I highly recommend you get one.

It's spectacular

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The Who
Live at Leeds

Been a while

This Keith Moon guy...out of his gourd, but can really play drums

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Hit this one a lot lately myself. An under-rated box, don't tell anyone, it's our secret.

Today for me was 1/17/68. When it ended, I found myself sucking my thumb and holding my blankee.

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...and get weird
Amsterdam May 10th 1972
what more needs to be said

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uncle_tripel

Proudfoot, although most of it might be close copy, seem to recall that Moonie's drumming the next night, on Live at Hull is even better.

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to 8/21/72 first night of the run at BCT - very muy bueno

Uncle T - night after Amsterdam, Rotterdam 5/11/72, Dark Star through end of show is a foundational personal all time favorite.

enjoy the music everyone. day off after nine day session. enjoying a Pecan Beer from de las Vegas in Las Cruces. the "weekend" is here in bluecrow land

well sorta - truck cd player (yep I have one and use it - cd player in vehicles) went patas arriba in Artesia shell station yesterday on way back - shut vehicle off to gas up and when I turned it back on the cd player (Pioneer aftermarket console) couldn't read a disc. Tough. this afternoon did a hard reset disconnecting the truck battery. Reconnected and car started and loaded Kind of Blue and up came Track 1 and the opening notes of So What which I got to hear jerry tease out at Hampton in 88. Nice minor victory. Couldn't read this disc among many the night before. And true foundational music for me and I chose it specifically for the test because it didn't allow for any excuses from the electronics. But now its 5/13/73 Des Moines and the Eyes > China Doll > Sugar Magnolia.

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Thank you for the referral, DMCVT

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3 9 81

3 10 81 was one of the FIRST cassettes I ever got

I didnt hear 3 9 81 until within the past 5 years

Amazing pair of shows

"A nice pair", as a Pink Floyd compilation title sez

God Bless the Grateful Dead

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One of the best of the 80s

Magical

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Seems way overpriced for just 3 LP’s.
The description says it’s “Audiophile”, but no description is provided as to what makes it more Audiophile than the vinyl version released in 2015.

Let us know how it sounds once someone listens to it.

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Just heard zappa

You cant do that onstage anymore vol 2, disc 1

Some of the BEST non-GD I have ever heard

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I love that 5/10/72 show @Uncle_Tripel. I know Rotterdam tends to soak up the attention but whenever my hands hovers over the two it typically picks the former for my listening pleasure. Maybe it's the quality of the recording itself.

2/11/69 - I'll get running-off-at-the-mouth-disease and start spouting superlatives if given the chance. But for anyone who reads the liner notes (assuming Gary Lambert's work from the CD is brought across to the LPs), might I respectfully suggest you take a gander at Bill Graham's autobiography. The passages on how he got into the Fillmore East, and the memories from the guys who built it out for him, are worth the price of the book itself - which is not to say the rest of the tome isn't worth your time.

Dave's 38. It's 9/7 today and I find I tend to listen to that material more than to that of the main release. But what a surfeit of riches. God Bless the Grateful Dead.

Happy Saturday, folks.

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Wanted a Cold Rain & Snow to start the day and found this on first blind random pull from the cassette collection. No clue what show as I didn't take notes from the CDs it is from and not bothering to look it up today. Fills up three 90 minute tapes.
Cheers
Having some fresh zucchini bread with my coffee. As the old line goes, lock your car doors, it's zucchini season. Someone might lay one on you when you're not looking.

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I didn't get the 2015 version of this album, so this is doubly attractive to me. Value for money is very subjective. I would rather buy a single cd from 1968, for example, than a 4 cd set from 1988- even if they were the same price.

Another case in point - I have been listening to Dicks Picks 36 on vinyl today - 9/21/72. I have no idea what I paid for it, but I am sure if I told one of my friends round here, they would think I was nuts (not that they don't already). But to me - whatever I paid - it was worth it.

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6 16 90 DVD

tasty

Edit...phenomenal show

Then a happy surprise...
A bunch of material from 10 3 87

I had forgotten

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turns out to be Space thru end of show from 10/31/80

Pleasant surprise

Maybe this will be MUATM?

a man can dream

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Brushed over a bit in my last post, this is a great show. Many things stand out - one of the things I like about Fall 1972 is the way they would start jamming early on in the show. The second song is a 13min 39 second version of Bird Song. A run through El Paso then they go into China Cat-Rider. Quite a way to kick things off.
The highlight though, is the second set, Truckin' to Morning Dew. After which they play Beat It On Down The Line. Of course. Actually a red hot take, but the show seems to end in a way after Dew - the remaining 8 songs sound a bit like add ons to me.

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It's here!

To anyone who got a copy....

In the theater marque on the cover, there is a photo of someone,,,, anyone know who?

I thought maybe Bill Graham, but I have no idea what he looks like.

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Boston Music Hall

Hope everyone is doing well. Sorry for the erratic posting. Trying to manage living in heart failure doesn't leave a lot of time for sitting at the computer.

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Wishing you good health

Heart failure is obviously heavy stuff

Y'all be cool.

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Yes I know he isn’t mooning. I don’t guarantee it but the picture looks like contemporary pics of Bill Graham from the internet. You have to fight through many photos of Billy Graham and an apparently pro wrestler Bill Graham. The hair style looks right. Anyone know for sure?

Edit Posted this before I saw the PROUDFOOT reply.

Marquee photo is Bill Graham playing cowbell after being dosed (I think a Fillmore West show). Search Bill Graham Cowbell and a red dit thread comes up that has a cropped photo with Pigpen singing and Bill on cowbell on side of stage. Edit - now I'm reading that at 2/11/69 shows Mickey gave Bill a cowbell to commemorate the earlier dosed show event (exact date unknown). And that the photo could be Bill playing the gifted cowbell on 2/11/69 and not a photo of him at the show where he was dosed. An enigma wrapped in a mystery.

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Listening to 5/26/73 Kezar (Disc 2 from HCS box).

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Fox Theatre
St. Louis

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10/19/73 for me - the mighty Dicks Picks 36. One highlight you don't hear much about is Jerry's guitar solo on "They Love Each Other".

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Dave’s 2023 bonus disc (Folsom Field 9/3/72)…decided to shake up the listening by only listening to September shows this week. Truckin still #1 in Turlock

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"Smoke & Fiction," the evidently final album from X. And it's the best thing they've done since "Under the Big Black Sun."

I've loved those guys (and gal) since I first saw them back in 1977. They were already unbelievable then. Great to see that they managed to write an excellent batch of songs for this final record, and play with every bit as much fury as they had back in olden days.

Stay away and
don't get taken
we knew the gutter
and the future

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I havent tried the new album

Their first three were in heavy rotation back in the day

Saw X at a local festival in 85, methinks

Then they played at the zoo across the street a couple to three years back and they rocked

And a few years before that

4th album took me a while to warm up to

Love X (well, the earlier stuff in particular)

Yea.. Turlock, per Wikipedia, has a population now (2024) of 72,000 people.

I'm going out a limb here, but my guess is the town does not document nor publish any sort of top 100 radio / pop song list. Bob clearly had (has) a good sense of humor or perhaps inhaled at least once in his life. Of course I could be wrong how would I know..

Turlock's a big agricultural crossroads, lot's trucks with California produce driving in, then driving out and then there are the through trucks. So Truckin', yes certainly, perhaps it's still #1 in Turlock California and the truckers cannot get enough of it. Perhaps Bobby still inhales. Who knows for sure, either way, we win.

10/19/73 is from Fairgrounds Arena - Oklahoma City, Dicks Picks 19. DiP 36 was Philly 72 (9/21 I think?), one of the other Best Eva Dickus Pickus so the two are easily confused, but alas there were so many that fall into the category best ever. Again, win / win.

10/19/73 most certainly changed my life for the betta. That mind left body, that one (and perhaps the one from Dozin' at the Knick) is (are) truly special. So good, so good. And then, just when you let your guard down the left over gnarly discord from the Dark Star crashes and melts peacefully into one of the most gorgeous Morning Dew's ever performed. Practically perfect in every way. Great, upbeat They Love Each other too.

Just got done watching a documentary on the Indigo Girls with Mrs. Grumpkins

Good show

I really enjoyed them opening for GD back in 1993 at Autzen Stadium

31 years ago

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