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    Obeah - here's an edited/slightly reworked version of what I posted on another forum years ago. I'd go for the GEMS SBD remaster (152924). Not as jammed out as some '74 but there is some really and truly, very fine, music here (sound of Oro's foot tapping.) The Dark Star jam is unlike any out there and I really really dig it.

    Ca. 1997/98 – I was living in a small desert town. First worked here summer of ’95 and it was here that I first learned of Jerry’s passing (and still here 25+ years later). Jim, a long time resident (moved away years ago) and fellow Deadhead (saw Vegas Ice Palace ’69 I think) mentioned that a friend had come through town and left a list of tapes he had to trade/share. The friend was a river runner out of Flagstaff, would be back through town in a week or so. Jim invited me to take a look at the list and see if there was anything I wanted. It was a short list – all that I remember at this point is that it had the International Amphitheatre show, 7/25/74, complete show, an audience rated at C-. The show was unknown to me and, as a favorite year and a Chicago boy at heart (born and raised north suburbs), I asked for that one.

    One night a little while later the river runner friend came back through town. I remember standing outside in the summer dark talking to him for maybe 10-20 minutes, he only stopped to drop off tapes. It turned out that he had taped the show himself and it was the only show he ever taped. A cheap deck with the microphones hanging over the balcony railing (IIRC). He had talked to Phil outside the back door before the show and Phil had big time dosed him. Said that Phil sat on a stool for part of the show. He got all wide-eyed with nostalgic awe when he recalled the Ship of Fools encore – clearly the song had been a major religious experience. I think he handed me his masters to make a copy (or maybe he just dropped off a copy?), saying he would pick them up from our mutual friend on the way back through town. Don’t recall his name and never saw him again.

    Listening to the tapes you felt like you were way in the back of a cavernous space. To me, C- was possibly a generous grade, but with a pair of cheap headphones (all my gear was cheap at the time) - listening in the dark in the middle of the high desert night - you could be there, and for a poor boy in the backwoods of tapes it was a cool listen. I dubbed a couple of copies and sent one to Jeff, a close friend, who was back in the Chicago area – at the time he was managing Dr. Wax (a chain of several used record/CD stores/Jeff also founded and ran a niche record label Quinnah Records) A little while later Jeff calls me, all excited. “Where did you get this?? This is the only known recording of this show currently in circulation!!!” Circulation was a relative term in this case. Turns out Jeff had reached out/was in contact with the gentlemen who were putting together the first Tapers Compendium and, connected as they were, they knew of no other recordings of this show. The Compendium folks wanted him to review the tapes/show for the Compendium, but in the end it was too late because the book had just gone into galley(?) and it was too much trouble to revise it. This is the only ’74 show not reviewed/completely missing from the first edition Tapers Compendium Vol I.

    A bunch of high-end traders contacted Jeff requesting copies. When Jeff asked one what his opinion of the tapes were, the gentleman replied that it was pretty rough and that basically it was for completists only, but of course it had a heretofore uncirculated Dark Star with a Slipknot tease, which was everything you needed to know right there. This may have been at the time the only uncirculated Dark Star post-1970. Another commented that he thought he knew the person who might have the soundboard reels (or copies of them) but that they were holding them close. The SBD recording finally entered public circulation a few years later and Dave Lemieux (I raise a toast, or two or three, or more, in his honor) has featured portions of this show a time or three, I think, in the Jam of the Week and/or the Tapers Section/and 30 days of the Dead. So the masters are in the vault. The audience has never been uploaded to the archive.

    It makes me smile that this show first resurfaced from the depths of time (relatively speaking) in this dusty, high desert, town.

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    1972 was some great concerts in some out-of-the way places

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    Rise and shine lil Pedro
    Bfast in bed wiff the GD

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    Passed in Tacoma at 81

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    Disc 4 of "Unlabled 1968 GD"

    Saint Stephen >
    TIFTOO >
    Lovelight

    The SS is a very early version

    Edit
    Theres info about this on e t r e e

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    ...a small bit of squawking or is it squonking...someone recently mentioned Ornette Coleman with the Boys in 1993...anyway PHILA 1973 SEPT 21 Set 2 should fill the jones with guests Martin Fiero & Joe Ellis

    Peace for All!
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    Lyceum Theatre

    Peace

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    7 19 90

    I was listening to 7 18 90 earlier today and it just felt "meh".

    7 19 90 already has a springy bouncy energy 2nd song in.

    Very interesting

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    Sounds good.

    The show could be cleaned up and included in next year’s 30TATS -The Sequel Box.

    Yes Crow, I enjoyed 7-25-74.
    And I just finished playing 5-14-74 in the car (took a few days). Definitely a step up from 5-12-74.

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    9/14/74 plus

    Plus omg, 9/11/74. Had not HEARD this one complete before, Doah!
    Felt like it was the most consistent overall of the three nights? and has another sweet 74 PITB, but the P&N through Rat sequence…OMG, tiss the shite mate!
    If you haven’t heard, and like big weirdness ala 72/73, you MUST check out at least from PITB onward…through the fog!

    7/25/74. OBEAH, ole Bluecrow always be giving us the goodness!
    And 5/14, one of my favs of the year, 74 DS, come on…scary moons 😳

    BC, Betting you’ve heard about 51, so other than that, I’d say you missed nothing ; )
    I too, waiting impatiently for 7/25….hear sound of foot tapping…

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Hope the streak keeps going and I win Mega Millions tonight.

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10 31 91

Standing on the Moon is sublime

Wow

Heavy show, bro

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Bob Mould - Workbook

Prior to that
Side 2 of Husker Du - New Day Rising

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The Dead at their best. Lets get this one released, please.

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9/17, 18, 19, 20/70

My sense is that that won't happen, though

I hope I am incorrect in that judgment

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...a nickel, he hands you a dime...

Shoreline May 10th 1991 tight, wonderful interplay, sweet mix

...he asks you with a grin, if you’re havin’ a good time!

Peace for All!
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Also heard it sung;
Hands you a nickel.
Calls it a dime.
Which somehow I like better.
Just makes him all the sleazier, lol.
Cheers

RGM sale: DiP 33 (8-LP), was $175, now $140

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3 9 81

HOT

Have you hugged your MSG box lately?

If you don't have a copy, I highly recommend you get one.

It's spectacular

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The Who
Live at Leeds

Been a while

This Keith Moon guy...out of his gourd, but can really play drums

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Hit this one a lot lately myself. An under-rated box, don't tell anyone, it's our secret.

Today for me was 1/17/68. When it ended, I found myself sucking my thumb and holding my blankee.

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...and get weird
Amsterdam May 10th 1972
what more needs to be said

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Proudfoot, although most of it might be close copy, seem to recall that Moonie's drumming the next night, on Live at Hull is even better.

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to 8/21/72 first night of the run at BCT - very muy bueno

Uncle T - night after Amsterdam, Rotterdam 5/11/72, Dark Star through end of show is a foundational personal all time favorite.

enjoy the music everyone. day off after nine day session. enjoying a Pecan Beer from de las Vegas in Las Cruces. the "weekend" is here in bluecrow land

well sorta - truck cd player (yep I have one and use it - cd player in vehicles) went patas arriba in Artesia shell station yesterday on way back - shut vehicle off to gas up and when I turned it back on the cd player (Pioneer aftermarket console) couldn't read a disc. Tough. this afternoon did a hard reset disconnecting the truck battery. Reconnected and car started and loaded Kind of Blue and up came Track 1 and the opening notes of So What which I got to hear jerry tease out at Hampton in 88. Nice minor victory. Couldn't read this disc among many the night before. And true foundational music for me and I chose it specifically for the test because it didn't allow for any excuses from the electronics. But now its 5/13/73 Des Moines and the Eyes > China Doll > Sugar Magnolia.

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Thank you for the referral, DMCVT

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3 9 81

3 10 81 was one of the FIRST cassettes I ever got

I didnt hear 3 9 81 until within the past 5 years

Amazing pair of shows

"A nice pair", as a Pink Floyd compilation title sez

God Bless the Grateful Dead

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One of the best of the 80s

Magical

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Seems way overpriced for just 3 LP’s.
The description says it’s “Audiophile”, but no description is provided as to what makes it more Audiophile than the vinyl version released in 2015.

Let us know how it sounds once someone listens to it.

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Just heard zappa

You cant do that onstage anymore vol 2, disc 1

Some of the BEST non-GD I have ever heard

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I love that 5/10/72 show @Uncle_Tripel. I know Rotterdam tends to soak up the attention but whenever my hands hovers over the two it typically picks the former for my listening pleasure. Maybe it's the quality of the recording itself.

2/11/69 - I'll get running-off-at-the-mouth-disease and start spouting superlatives if given the chance. But for anyone who reads the liner notes (assuming Gary Lambert's work from the CD is brought across to the LPs), might I respectfully suggest you take a gander at Bill Graham's autobiography. The passages on how he got into the Fillmore East, and the memories from the guys who built it out for him, are worth the price of the book itself - which is not to say the rest of the tome isn't worth your time.

Dave's 38. It's 9/7 today and I find I tend to listen to that material more than to that of the main release. But what a surfeit of riches. God Bless the Grateful Dead.

Happy Saturday, folks.

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Wanted a Cold Rain & Snow to start the day and found this on first blind random pull from the cassette collection. No clue what show as I didn't take notes from the CDs it is from and not bothering to look it up today. Fills up three 90 minute tapes.
Cheers
Having some fresh zucchini bread with my coffee. As the old line goes, lock your car doors, it's zucchini season. Someone might lay one on you when you're not looking.

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I didn't get the 2015 version of this album, so this is doubly attractive to me. Value for money is very subjective. I would rather buy a single cd from 1968, for example, than a 4 cd set from 1988- even if they were the same price.

Another case in point - I have been listening to Dicks Picks 36 on vinyl today - 9/21/72. I have no idea what I paid for it, but I am sure if I told one of my friends round here, they would think I was nuts (not that they don't already). But to me - whatever I paid - it was worth it.

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6 16 90 DVD

tasty

Edit...phenomenal show

Then a happy surprise...
A bunch of material from 10 3 87

I had forgotten

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turns out to be Space thru end of show from 10/31/80

Pleasant surprise

Maybe this will be MUATM?

a man can dream

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Brushed over a bit in my last post, this is a great show. Many things stand out - one of the things I like about Fall 1972 is the way they would start jamming early on in the show. The second song is a 13min 39 second version of Bird Song. A run through El Paso then they go into China Cat-Rider. Quite a way to kick things off.
The highlight though, is the second set, Truckin' to Morning Dew. After which they play Beat It On Down The Line. Of course. Actually a red hot take, but the show seems to end in a way after Dew - the remaining 8 songs sound a bit like add ons to me.

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It's here!

To anyone who got a copy....

In the theater marque on the cover, there is a photo of someone,,,, anyone know who?

I thought maybe Bill Graham, but I have no idea what he looks like.

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Boston Music Hall

Hope everyone is doing well. Sorry for the erratic posting. Trying to manage living in heart failure doesn't leave a lot of time for sitting at the computer.

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Wishing you good health

Heart failure is obviously heavy stuff

Y'all be cool.

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Yes I know he isn’t mooning. I don’t guarantee it but the picture looks like contemporary pics of Bill Graham from the internet. You have to fight through many photos of Billy Graham and an apparently pro wrestler Bill Graham. The hair style looks right. Anyone know for sure?

Edit Posted this before I saw the PROUDFOOT reply.

Marquee photo is Bill Graham playing cowbell after being dosed (I think a Fillmore West show). Search Bill Graham Cowbell and a red dit thread comes up that has a cropped photo with Pigpen singing and Bill on cowbell on side of stage. Edit - now I'm reading that at 2/11/69 shows Mickey gave Bill a cowbell to commemorate the earlier dosed show event (exact date unknown). And that the photo could be Bill playing the gifted cowbell on 2/11/69 and not a photo of him at the show where he was dosed. An enigma wrapped in a mystery.

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Listening to 5/26/73 Kezar (Disc 2 from HCS box).

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Fox Theatre
St. Louis

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10/19/73 for me - the mighty Dicks Picks 36. One highlight you don't hear much about is Jerry's guitar solo on "They Love Each Other".

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Dave’s 2023 bonus disc (Folsom Field 9/3/72)…decided to shake up the listening by only listening to September shows this week. Truckin still #1 in Turlock

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"Smoke & Fiction," the evidently final album from X. And it's the best thing they've done since "Under the Big Black Sun."

I've loved those guys (and gal) since I first saw them back in 1977. They were already unbelievable then. Great to see that they managed to write an excellent batch of songs for this final record, and play with every bit as much fury as they had back in olden days.

Stay away and
don't get taken
we knew the gutter
and the future

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I havent tried the new album

Their first three were in heavy rotation back in the day

Saw X at a local festival in 85, methinks

Then they played at the zoo across the street a couple to three years back and they rocked

And a few years before that

4th album took me a while to warm up to

Love X (well, the earlier stuff in particular)

Yea.. Turlock, per Wikipedia, has a population now (2024) of 72,000 people.

I'm going out a limb here, but my guess is the town does not document nor publish any sort of top 100 radio / pop song list. Bob clearly had (has) a good sense of humor or perhaps inhaled at least once in his life. Of course I could be wrong how would I know..

Turlock's a big agricultural crossroads, lot's trucks with California produce driving in, then driving out and then there are the through trucks. So Truckin', yes certainly, perhaps it's still #1 in Turlock California and the truckers cannot get enough of it. Perhaps Bobby still inhales. Who knows for sure, either way, we win.

10/19/73 is from Fairgrounds Arena - Oklahoma City, Dicks Picks 19. DiP 36 was Philly 72 (9/21 I think?), one of the other Best Eva Dickus Pickus so the two are easily confused, but alas there were so many that fall into the category best ever. Again, win / win.

10/19/73 most certainly changed my life for the betta. That mind left body, that one (and perhaps the one from Dozin' at the Knick) is (are) truly special. So good, so good. And then, just when you let your guard down the left over gnarly discord from the Dark Star crashes and melts peacefully into one of the most gorgeous Morning Dew's ever performed. Practically perfect in every way. Great, upbeat They Love Each other too.

Just got done watching a documentary on the Indigo Girls with Mrs. Grumpkins

Good show

I really enjoyed them opening for GD back in 1993 at Autzen Stadium

31 years ago

Ho lee phuc