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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net
One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net
In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net
The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.
Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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November 16, 2024 - 7:45am

#141

Vguy72

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Tyson vs Paul....

....shits rigged I tell ya!
November 16, 2024 - 5:48am

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simonrob

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70's - A country of two halves

Wow Daverock, I don't recognize a single thing you said about the 70's. Maybe that is because we were living in completely different parts of the country. I was living on the south coast at the time. In the first half of the decade some so-called progressive bands became very pretentious but the less famous bands were as good as they had been in the late 60's. Most broke up or had become irrelevant by the second half of the 70's. Punk and suchlike was largely invisible in my part of the country. There were a few punks and some skinheads in town but you had to look hard to find them. I recall 1969 - 1974 as being the best period for music and the 1980's as being the worst. I'm surprised at how much our views of that period vary.
November 16, 2024 - 4:48am

#143

daverock

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70's - game of two halves

In Britain it was the first half of the 1970's that were written off - mainly by some really good writers from the N.M.E. The feeling they expressed was that the 1960's featured exciting, ground breaking music, but when the 1970's kicked in technique, rather than inspiration kicked in. Most of the bands and artists from the 60's that were still around were considered past their best, and bands that came to the fore in the 70's were regarded as dull. The Stooges and the MC5 were held up as the way to go. I can remember getting Raw Power when it came out, and that seemed incendiary - very different from other hard rock albums.
Write ups were printed about the new wave of American bands who played at CBGBs, and along with the two bands mentioned above, they was considered something of a guiding light. The first Patti Smith album, and even more so the first Ramones album that came out in 1976 were really influential in this country, paving the way for the Sex Pistols and punk. As far as the critics were considered, rock had been saved at the last minute, and a lot of people went along with that.
It all seems very different now, I must say. Punk from England in the mid-late 70's is one form of music I can no longer stand - although as a teenager going to those gigs in 1976-1977 it was 'triffic.
November 15, 2024 - 9:44pm

#144

RyXs

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Got Jazz?

Thanks Charlie for the big list name drop of bands! I have actually heard of and bought some of them groups before. Mainly ones I've listened to on the local jazz station, then bought piecemeal off internet tunes.
El Michaels and Budos were new bands to my surprise, they've got such a retro feel for their new arraignments. You'd think they came from a time warp it sounds so authentically old school. Real good tunes!
November 15, 2024 - 7:06pm

#145

jjc

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Sturgill

Sturgill is the man love his music.
November 15, 2024 - 7:03pm

#146

Vguy72

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King Gizz....

....Mrs. Vguy is praying it's just a phase (Although, she doesn't ask me to turn down Flight b741).
Probably their most accessible release.
These guys cover a lot of ground genre-wise.
Some Gizz stickers arrived in the mail today. "Don't worry honey! It's just a phase."
I've checked out Tame Impala Charlie. They are good. So are Dogs In A Pile. And no, they are not a GD cover band.
November 15, 2024 - 5:31pm

#147

KRIYAS

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New Tunes

I always dig checking in and maybe getting some cool reference to some band big or small, known or not so know sometimes even better. You never know what might sound right at any time in your experience.
I love Dwight Yoakam and somehow notice the other day he had a new release today so I'm checking it out now. Also sad to say I never had Black Sabbath Dehumanizer, but friend sent a text the other the day with the song 'I' and knew I had to add to collection.
And finally on some movie digs recently ripped Repo Man from 1984 featuring an LA stock punk rock lineup for the soundtrack, and a plot probably too offensive for some squares...hehe. Just kidding. like Phil might say...We're playing this years music folks....Thanks Phil and The Goddamn Grateful Dead
November 15, 2024 - 4:51pm

#148

Charlie3

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21st Century Sounds

To start let me say, I doubt everyone will dig the same things I do, but I dig that chillwave sound of Washed Out, Tame Impala has some awesome stuff, Skinshape, Dope Lemon and Khruangbin all have a real cool chill vibe that works for me. All except Khruangbin are pretty much the projects of single individuals, all pretty much hit the spot for me. Check out the video for Mind Mischief by Tame Impala, but you have to be 18, either because of the cartoon nudity or the lady teacher lighting up with a student in her car, ridiculous either way, but a cool video and that song just lights up my brain in a most pleasurable way.

The Flaming Lips have released a bundh of cool albums this century, and they do put on a cool show.

A ton of modern bands doing a current version of R&B, soul, funk, or cinematic soul like El Michels Affair (check out Sounding Out the City, good place to start), Budos Band (lots of horns there), Menahan Street Band, Les Imprimes, Bobby Oroza, Thee Marloes, Thee Heart Tones, The Sextones, Sharon Jones & the Daptones, Charles Bradley (check out his cool cover of Black Sabbath's Changes), Surprise Chef, Ghost Funk Orchestra and more.

Free Ride is a recent discovery, a little more metal than my usual tastes tend towards, but the track Space Nomad sucked me in and with an album title like Acido y Puto how could I resist picking it up? Metal, stoner, fuzzed out low end rock, works for me in the right mood. Vguy has beat the drum pretty hard for King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard and I will second his endorsement, a really varied catalogue with those guys and some pretty amusing videos. Not to mention that they release a ton of stuff for free - they pretty much explicitly invite you to make your own record company, release the stuff they put out for free and cut them in with whatever you think is cool.

I get the sense that there are not a lot of country fans on here, but for those that might dig it, Sturgill Simpson, Tyler Childers, Red Clay Strays, and Colter Wall have all put out some cool stuff, think more like outlaw country not country-pop. Sturgill's Metamodern Sounds in Country Music is a total psychedelic classic, don't let the country category fool you. Check out Turtles All the Way Down and tell me that is not a psychedelic masterpiece. And once i saw the album cover for Tyler Childers' Country Squire album I had to get it, cool album, great cover art, and the gatefold picture is pretty cool too. Good stuff.
November 15, 2024 - 3:11pm

#149

Here Comes Sunshine

Joined:
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Be here, and there, now

70s is my favorite decade for rock. Late 50s and the 60s for Jazz. Then there was that Acid Jazz period in the 90s that was interesting, though I wouldn't call it Jazz.

There are some good artists of recent years, but as Charlie said they are mostly small, independent label and not advertised, but they're out there, you just got to poke around.

Check out Satsang 'The Story of You' especially the tune 'I Am.'

Or Uncle Lucius 'And You Are Me' and his song 'Keep The Wolves Away.'

Bob Marley's kids all put out some good stuff. And in that genre I also like Nattali Rize and Blue King Brown. Check out the Nattali Rize song 'One People.'

You might be pleasantly surprised.
November 15, 2024 - 2:42pm

#150

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
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70’s music

The reason that 70’s music stopped sucking is because 80’s music was so much worse.

Most of my favorite bands started in the 60’s or early 70’s.
Mid-70’s would be Rush and Van Halen (no Van Hagar).
The only modern band I listen to is Hard Working Americans. Awesome band, wish it could have lasted longer.

Speaking of Rush, for those vinyl fans, the Moving Pictures 40 5-LP Box is spectacular.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

43 minute Lovelight.

That's longer than most L.P.s ! If anyone asked me about a great Lovelight, I'd suggest they listen to Live Dead. All of it. One of the best live albums ever released, and one in which every track - including Lovelight - adds to the brilliance of the whole. I think that one clocks in at around the 15 minute mark.

Road Trips Vol4 no 1. features a generous helping of this track. The Big Rock Pow Wow from 4/23-24/69. The first disc ends with a 31 minute version and the second opens with a 27 minute version. What are you waiting for?

JoeyMC

Hey Joey,

In Dave's #52 seaside chat he mentions #53, which will be announced soon.
Per Dave, not a 100% verbatim quote, "#53 is a terrific show that has been on the radar for a long time. When we hit this era next this would be the show for that era. Actually it came down to two shows from that era...."

This would seem to indicate the usual suspects like 77 and 73 are out.

Just speculation at this point. Maybe this means 1980, 1968, not sure.

53

??/??/74

Oh yeah

Forgot about the Priest references over the weekend. Unleashed in the East is still my favorite metal album. I listen to it every couple of years. The time frame for me and my priest was a crossover point in life. Hard rock and metal fading getting into the dead asd still love affair with prog rock. Rush, Yes, King Crimson, ELP, etc. Saw a bunch of prog shows. Metal show July 1981, Whitesnake (with Lord and Paice)>Iron Maiden (Killer's Tour)> Priest. All three great but Priest what an incredible voice back then. Was at the Fox Atlanta mid section 10 rows back. Bought tickets the day b4 as we came to atlanta not knowing they were going to be there. Saw them in 1984 in Hometown. Buddies went to see them a couple months back, said they were very good.

Eras

Deadvikes,
I see what you mean, I think there has been a lot of '77 to start the year off in the past. Something completely different would be nice.

Dave, if you asking me, I what I'm waiting for, I was hoping the "Good News" shipping notification for our latest pick, 52.

RIP Paul Di'Anno....

....original vocalist for Iron Maiden.

Dang Vguy

You were right on it. When I saw him Paul and Maiden, they were excellent. Had just stumbled onto them a few months b4 that fox show. May have to track down the first 2 albums. Maiden played home town in 1983. Dickenson was at a local attraction and a buddy who twerked there let me know. Dickinson about 5'8" and was kind of rude. Guess it matches his name.

Yeah!

I have been hoping for this show to be released for years now! Super terrific and as always...go Brent!

Listening to my fav band…

Listening to my fav band after casting my vote for Trump. This country is so effing effed without him. 78 sounds great. smoke another you dumb hippies.

The clouds of delusion are strong in this one

What a maroon

#52

I’ve had a shipping notice! Of course it hasn’t actually moved yet but DHL have been told about it. The process begins.

Listens to his favorite band....

....then proceeds to call hippies dumb.
You can say the word fuck you know.
Go all in. We're all adults here.
Whatever makes sense. Which that post did not.

This week's tapers section

All 80s selection guess Dave is a bit of a prankster to those ripping on this selection.

Waiting for the worms

All you have to do is follow the worms….

Anniversary show 10/21/78 Winterland

46 years ago I was up at Winter land for another killer show with the Good old Grateful Dead. Fun times!

Very jelly btk

10 21 78

Nice

Listening to my fav band

Go have another Arnold Palmer because you are just boring.

Waiting, Waiting...

Dave says 53 sounds incredible, it's a great show/ terrific show... There were two we were looking at last time we hit this era?? The other that didn't make the cut this time we'll get too next time we hit this era...

March 73??

There I go, thinking again...

I'm putting big money on next year's box being fall '72. (Say, $2?) Dave once said it "has to happen" at some point and it's been years since he said that. Not that his loose ruminations are any more reliable than mine. but that's the box I want, so why not predict it? Black magic has been known to work...

I'm thinking that with the DP series devoted to a full, main show, sometimes with filler, and the remaining late '67 and newly discovered '68 tapes unable or unlikely to fill a box (their sweet spot seems to be 15-20 discs) that maybe Rhino/GD will permit OSF to release something early and tasty. Or just do a "special release," (whatever that is) dammit!

I think the enormous volume of '77 and '78 releases is because TPTB cut a deal with the guys behind ABCD Productions that, in exchange for turning over the tapes, TPTB agreed to release a certain torrent of them. Absolutely unconfirmed, so you see I can play fast and loose with reality, which, to be honest, is what I do best.

Just wishing for wishes on sunny fall morning at the foot of the Rockies. Hope # 53 is tasty. Maybe '81? I have good audience cassette tapes from a late friend who taped the late December run (Oakland?) and 12-26-81 really stands out. (marye said she attended and concurred it's a hot one. Did Billy the Kidd?)

Just ruminating here. Put a dollop of Jameson in my coffee this morning. Obviously...

P.S. I'm glad that the folks here are psyched for '80s tapes and that Dave has an enormous inventory of '80s tapes to release. Yet, like someone commented earlier, I too caught many shows in the '80s, or it seemed like a lot. But that experience is one thing, and listening to the tapes 40 some odd years later and buying the corresponding releases is a different matter. So at some point, they've gotta find a rationale for getting the '67-'69 stuff out. Blah blah blah!

H.F. 12/26/81

Yeah, I was there. It was cool to see Garcia sing Big Boss Man. Fun Times

New O.S.F. Release

My reliable sources tell me that is going to be John Hammond from the Boarding House in 1973. I believe that it is coming out in November. I saw John Hammond play a couple of times, it sounds like a winner.

Box...

November '72

Marye also liked 12/28/81

Dav's Pick 53

11/23/73 County Coliseum - El Paso, TX would be cool!

A Day at the Dentist

Been a longtime fan of 12/26/81.

Out of drums, the boys dick around by mimicking drilling sounds from a dental office before going into a cool little jam and then an Eleven jam. Funny as hell. I used to play that for my kids on the way to daycare. They loved it.

I would be up for that one.

OSF

The OSF site is showing a November release for the John Hammond set.
If I look at preordering from the site it calculates customs charges greater than the cost of the cd, so that’s not on. Amazon US are also showing it as available for preorder and the extra charges are considerably lower. Amazon UK isn’t showing the release yet, but they have had all the previous releases so I’ll wait to see if it appears. Should be good.

The Other One!

Good stuff today, except the other one :(

Would love some '81 New Years run.

Colin & Bear

Just finished Bear: The Life and Times of Augustus Owsley Stanley III. Went to his wiki page and indeed the next journal release is 11/24 John Hammond.

Santa Fe 1983

So excited to get the new Dave’s pic! This was one of my all time favorite shows!

RockinRobinKansasStateU is in....

....RIP Fernando Valenzuela.
I'm old enough to remember him pitching.

Sub 25

Is in. Starting with 10/2/76. Good for me.

Gerhard

Where are you seeing this Gerhard?

Sub 25

At store > music > New Releases.

Sub 25

Gerhard, Thanks. My order is in first attempt with no problems.

There it is

Got it, thanks. Strange they don't have it on the opening page.

10/2/76. Alright! Definitely not a normal era for Dave to start the year with. Great idea

Gerhard & Dave's 2025

Thanks for the heads up.

Order in. My 10/2/76 leaves a lot to be desired, so the "official" release will be welcomed.

Seems the announcement is early this year? Is it?

CSN&Y set to arrive on Friday (Live at Fillmore East, 1969).

Enjoy

Vote?

Vote. But please not that terrible and dangerous clown.

53..

PLUS the last 1 set songs from 4/5 - 77, not on Daves 50.. Number 53 will be a great one..

Shipping?

Anyone get a shipping email for this one yet?

No shipping notification for me

Probably in the near future

Man, that's close to '77…

Man, that's close to '77 though isn't it?
Lol.
He kills me this guy Dave...
:)

One of my favorite Grateful Dead shows....

....ever is going to show up normanilized around the same time that the United States will be on the precipice of a potential major crisis.
Santa Fe Morning Dew to the rescue.

Shipping notice received

Label created, package not yet in transit.

The thing with voting..

Gerhard - is that a vast proportion of society will vote for a nincompoop.

Holy Crap!

You step out for a quick little 3400 mile RT and all kinds of deals go down here lol.
RE 1stshow, TOO and I tag teaming it, time is exit to exit, not including time changes, so actual road time including all stops and hassles. Oh, and not quite exactly 1700…she ended up doing more driving this time as I couldn’t sleep, which sucks as I used to be able to sleep anywhere, even on the base of Arc De Triumph in mid day once lol. The key is to limit time not in motion. When velocitzed etc, time gets weird so it’s easy to blow a half hour, or hour at pit stops etc and not realize it. We approach those like an Indy pit crew: one to the restroom while the other does gas etc, try to keep pit stops under 10 minutes, optimally 5!
But hey, still not bad for a couple old farts. Horrible run coming back, many hassles and perhaps too much too fast with only 2 crazy daze in between.
26.25 hours coming back, 23-24 is average. Caught some of the 10/74 XM plays on way there.
But, Nice to to finally get last of the family loose ends tied up and nice to visit the tundra…sort of lol. Beautiful weather and leaves etc back there and Fun to be in the heart of the mafia especially with a home game win, Go Bills!
Always good to get home though!

53: Berry interesting, that rascally rascal Dave does it again lol
Makes sense in a way, not quite 77 or 78 but…
Haven’t heard this one, and still delinquent on this tour?…
Personally would have loved to see the awesome Rochester show, or something from summer Orpheum, but that’s just talkin out my ass..set list looks good and we were due for some 76! Speaking of, figured ole SeventySixtus would be doing Belushi cartwheels here lol Happy for ya Bra!
Yeah DV I still don’t think the Cobo Boxilla show has resonated with me either, but of course always loved DP 33!
I’ll always do sub, can’t beat it for the price and I enjoy them all, even a dog like 51 (sonically that is, the show (s) were ok). Nowadays, where else can you get that much for a lousy 25 bucks (per show). And if we don’t support it, it will ALL go away and we’ll get nada…AND, you can easily gift or sell one if it’s that big a deal…

Really looking forward to 52, and 53…

Not so much The gales of November. All politicians suck or the TPTB wouldn’t allow them to get elected. But unless I’m more senile then I think, we fought the revolutionary war to NOT have a Dictator/King and royal family etc, but for a free democracy…
And I don’t care who it is, even if it was Garcia, even if in all other ways they’ make a great candidate, anyone who worships and quotes Hitler and Hate ain’t never getting my “dumb ass hippie vote”…gotta light?
AIN’T NO TIME TO HATE!
But, fortunately for now at least it’s still a free country with free speech…
Ok, sorry…soap box back in closet…