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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net
One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net
In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net
The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.
Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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November 10, 2024 - 10:26am

#441

daverock

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Issues

I don't think the content of HCS's post are the problem. It's more that the first posts he or she has posted on here have been quite lengthy political diatribes. If the same stuff had been posted by a regular poster on here I think it might have been read more sympathetically than is the case here.
It would be the same with any subject. If someone's first ever posts were quite long ones about hockey or King Gizzard - or Hawkwind for that matter, everyone else might wonder if that person had got lost or something.

So...a belated welcome to HCS - it doesn't matter what your politics are , or mine - the birds the word.
November 10, 2024 - 10:18am

#442

proudfoot

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The question is

Does this Charlie surf?

Zappa said something like

"Politics is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex"

Some see comedy
Some see tragedy

Hopefully the show itself will continue past the next 4 years
November 10, 2024 - 10:14am

#443

proudfoot

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Foreskin

Snip it or dip it
November 10, 2024 - 10:04am

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itsburnsy

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Charlie

Let me be clear Charlie, talking opposite politics does not make me uncomfortable. What I can't abide is lies, just taking HC Suns last post (the one before the lecture he gave me which I forgot to read), he neglects to mention that A) Millions of votes are still being counted in CA and B) 2020 had the highest turnout of all-time. Trump, had 12M more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016, everything scaled the way it should have. The word for people who believe lies is "Chump" and the word for people who spread lies is "F*ckwad" Not sure which HC Sun is, either way it deserved a response and there is a place named X where all the chumps and f*uckwads gather, not here
November 10, 2024 - 8:48am

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simonrob

Joined:
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Whatever happened...

Whatever happened to the old adage "America, love it or leave it"? Democracy means you get the president or government that you deserve.
November 10, 2024 - 8:39am

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Charlie3

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Politics

I stopped coming to this site so much over the last few years, and pretty much stopped posting due to the constant stream of left-wing political talking points and the insistence that anyone voicing a contrary opinion be shouted down at once. After the 2016 election this site was overrun with folks pledging their fealty to the “resistance” and promising to resist Trump’s agenda. I don’t recall any big outcry that the site was no place for politics. Likewise, in 2020 when the world went mad, this site was no place to challenge the idea that rioting in the streets and burning down cities was not a constructive or appropriate response, but it was clear that the left and most of the folks here had found a case where political violence was not just acceptable, but almost required, and, again, there was no outcry that this site was an inappropriate forum for discussing it, only an outcry that anyone with a different view bend the knee and acknowledge that everything happening was justified and acceptable or STFU. So, I have to say I find it amusing to see someone come on and spout off political views not commonly expressed here and the response is that it must be trolling and that the admin should remove the posts. Censorship is the apparently the go to answer to speech you don’t like.

Were all of the references to orange man bad, project 2025, the insinuations that everyone on the right is a facist or nazi, and the other left-wing positions and views espoused on this site over the past few years and leading up to the 2024 election trolling? If seeing political posts expressing views contrary to your own make you uncomfortable, then maybe stop and think about the impact of the stream of left-wing political posts on this site over the last few years and their impact on any deadhead into the music, but not in agreement with your political views. I can say, not the most welcoming place unless you are a deadhead with the “correct” political viewpoint. I’m sure that most of you folks are really cool and would be fun to hang out with, and I’m also pretty sure that none of you would actually hang out with me because I would never pass your political litmus tests. I don’t know who Here Comes Sunshine is, but I don’t see any problem with his or her posts, they are at least as respectful of the political posts that I have seen on this site over the last few years. And if anyone wonders, I am not Here Comes Sunshine.

On this topic, to give credit where credit is due, I suspect that Proudfoot and I probably have some pretty different political views, but I have noticed that his general response to political posts on this site over time has been to suggest if you don't like it you don't read it, not that it be censored, and I think this is the sort of respect that is lacking in our society today - the ability to accept that someone else has a differing political view and might express that view, without demanding that the opposing view be censored or shouted down.
November 10, 2024 - 8:08am

#447

proudfoot

Joined:
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Later today

9/11/83
3/10/81

got the house to myself for a few days

:)))

Please keep my crazies safe, Universe
November 10, 2024 - 8:06am

#448

proudfoot

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Apt non-GD selections

Metallica Master of Puppets
Metallica ...And Justice For All
Chicago (track) Lowdown
Chicago (track) Harry Truman
Motorhead (too many to choose from)
November 10, 2024 - 7:59am

#449

proudfoot

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Dead related

I tell ya, take some time to listen to Europe 90. 10/13 is a public rehearsal; things pick up steam after that. I am currently in 10 24 90

I would even say the tour is box worthy
November 10, 2024 - 7:50am

#450

onthebussince77

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Bill Graham on Tumultuous Times

"Whatever's going on in the rest of world, if it's wars or kidnappings or crimes, this is a peaceful Sunday night with the Grateful Dead." (2/24/74, Winterland)

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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

43 minute Lovelight.

That's longer than most L.P.s ! If anyone asked me about a great Lovelight, I'd suggest they listen to Live Dead. All of it. One of the best live albums ever released, and one in which every track - including Lovelight - adds to the brilliance of the whole. I think that one clocks in at around the 15 minute mark.

Road Trips Vol4 no 1. features a generous helping of this track. The Big Rock Pow Wow from 4/23-24/69. The first disc ends with a 31 minute version and the second opens with a 27 minute version. What are you waiting for?

JoeyMC

Hey Joey,

In Dave's #52 seaside chat he mentions #53, which will be announced soon.
Per Dave, not a 100% verbatim quote, "#53 is a terrific show that has been on the radar for a long time. When we hit this era next this would be the show for that era. Actually it came down to two shows from that era...."

This would seem to indicate the usual suspects like 77 and 73 are out.

Just speculation at this point. Maybe this means 1980, 1968, not sure.

53

??/??/74

Oh yeah

Forgot about the Priest references over the weekend. Unleashed in the East is still my favorite metal album. I listen to it every couple of years. The time frame for me and my priest was a crossover point in life. Hard rock and metal fading getting into the dead asd still love affair with prog rock. Rush, Yes, King Crimson, ELP, etc. Saw a bunch of prog shows. Metal show July 1981, Whitesnake (with Lord and Paice)>Iron Maiden (Killer's Tour)> Priest. All three great but Priest what an incredible voice back then. Was at the Fox Atlanta mid section 10 rows back. Bought tickets the day b4 as we came to atlanta not knowing they were going to be there. Saw them in 1984 in Hometown. Buddies went to see them a couple months back, said they were very good.

Eras

Deadvikes,
I see what you mean, I think there has been a lot of '77 to start the year off in the past. Something completely different would be nice.

Dave, if you asking me, I what I'm waiting for, I was hoping the "Good News" shipping notification for our latest pick, 52.

RIP Paul Di'Anno....

....original vocalist for Iron Maiden.

Dang Vguy

You were right on it. When I saw him Paul and Maiden, they were excellent. Had just stumbled onto them a few months b4 that fox show. May have to track down the first 2 albums. Maiden played home town in 1983. Dickenson was at a local attraction and a buddy who twerked there let me know. Dickinson about 5'8" and was kind of rude. Guess it matches his name.

Yeah!

I have been hoping for this show to be released for years now! Super terrific and as always...go Brent!

Listening to my fav band…

Listening to my fav band after casting my vote for Trump. This country is so effing effed without him. 78 sounds great. smoke another you dumb hippies.

The clouds of delusion are strong in this one

What a maroon

#52

I’ve had a shipping notice! Of course it hasn’t actually moved yet but DHL have been told about it. The process begins.

Listens to his favorite band....

....then proceeds to call hippies dumb.
You can say the word fuck you know.
Go all in. We're all adults here.
Whatever makes sense. Which that post did not.

This week's tapers section

All 80s selection guess Dave is a bit of a prankster to those ripping on this selection.

Waiting for the worms

All you have to do is follow the worms….

Anniversary show 10/21/78 Winterland

46 years ago I was up at Winter land for another killer show with the Good old Grateful Dead. Fun times!

Very jelly btk

10 21 78

Nice

Listening to my fav band

Go have another Arnold Palmer because you are just boring.

Waiting, Waiting...

Dave says 53 sounds incredible, it's a great show/ terrific show... There were two we were looking at last time we hit this era?? The other that didn't make the cut this time we'll get too next time we hit this era...

March 73??

There I go, thinking again...

I'm putting big money on next year's box being fall '72. (Say, $2?) Dave once said it "has to happen" at some point and it's been years since he said that. Not that his loose ruminations are any more reliable than mine. but that's the box I want, so why not predict it? Black magic has been known to work...

I'm thinking that with the DP series devoted to a full, main show, sometimes with filler, and the remaining late '67 and newly discovered '68 tapes unable or unlikely to fill a box (their sweet spot seems to be 15-20 discs) that maybe Rhino/GD will permit OSF to release something early and tasty. Or just do a "special release," (whatever that is) dammit!

I think the enormous volume of '77 and '78 releases is because TPTB cut a deal with the guys behind ABCD Productions that, in exchange for turning over the tapes, TPTB agreed to release a certain torrent of them. Absolutely unconfirmed, so you see I can play fast and loose with reality, which, to be honest, is what I do best.

Just wishing for wishes on sunny fall morning at the foot of the Rockies. Hope # 53 is tasty. Maybe '81? I have good audience cassette tapes from a late friend who taped the late December run (Oakland?) and 12-26-81 really stands out. (marye said she attended and concurred it's a hot one. Did Billy the Kidd?)

Just ruminating here. Put a dollop of Jameson in my coffee this morning. Obviously...

P.S. I'm glad that the folks here are psyched for '80s tapes and that Dave has an enormous inventory of '80s tapes to release. Yet, like someone commented earlier, I too caught many shows in the '80s, or it seemed like a lot. But that experience is one thing, and listening to the tapes 40 some odd years later and buying the corresponding releases is a different matter. So at some point, they've gotta find a rationale for getting the '67-'69 stuff out. Blah blah blah!

H.F. 12/26/81

Yeah, I was there. It was cool to see Garcia sing Big Boss Man. Fun Times

New O.S.F. Release

My reliable sources tell me that is going to be John Hammond from the Boarding House in 1973. I believe that it is coming out in November. I saw John Hammond play a couple of times, it sounds like a winner.

Box...

November '72

Marye also liked 12/28/81

Dav's Pick 53

11/23/73 County Coliseum - El Paso, TX would be cool!

A Day at the Dentist

Been a longtime fan of 12/26/81.

Out of drums, the boys dick around by mimicking drilling sounds from a dental office before going into a cool little jam and then an Eleven jam. Funny as hell. I used to play that for my kids on the way to daycare. They loved it.

I would be up for that one.

OSF

The OSF site is showing a November release for the John Hammond set.
If I look at preordering from the site it calculates customs charges greater than the cost of the cd, so that’s not on. Amazon US are also showing it as available for preorder and the extra charges are considerably lower. Amazon UK isn’t showing the release yet, but they have had all the previous releases so I’ll wait to see if it appears. Should be good.

The Other One!

Good stuff today, except the other one :(

Would love some '81 New Years run.

Colin & Bear

Just finished Bear: The Life and Times of Augustus Owsley Stanley III. Went to his wiki page and indeed the next journal release is 11/24 John Hammond.

Santa Fe 1983

So excited to get the new Dave’s pic! This was one of my all time favorite shows!

RockinRobinKansasStateU is in....

....RIP Fernando Valenzuela.
I'm old enough to remember him pitching.

Sub 25

Is in. Starting with 10/2/76. Good for me.

Gerhard

Where are you seeing this Gerhard?

Sub 25

At store > music > New Releases.

Sub 25

Gerhard, Thanks. My order is in first attempt with no problems.

There it is

Got it, thanks. Strange they don't have it on the opening page.

10/2/76. Alright! Definitely not a normal era for Dave to start the year with. Great idea

Gerhard & Dave's 2025

Thanks for the heads up.

Order in. My 10/2/76 leaves a lot to be desired, so the "official" release will be welcomed.

Seems the announcement is early this year? Is it?

CSN&Y set to arrive on Friday (Live at Fillmore East, 1969).

Enjoy

Vote?

Vote. But please not that terrible and dangerous clown.

53..

PLUS the last 1 set songs from 4/5 - 77, not on Daves 50.. Number 53 will be a great one..

Shipping?

Anyone get a shipping email for this one yet?

No shipping notification for me

Probably in the near future

Man, that's close to '77…

Man, that's close to '77 though isn't it?
Lol.
He kills me this guy Dave...
:)

One of my favorite Grateful Dead shows....

....ever is going to show up normanilized around the same time that the United States will be on the precipice of a potential major crisis.
Santa Fe Morning Dew to the rescue.

Shipping notice received

Label created, package not yet in transit.

The thing with voting..

Gerhard - is that a vast proportion of society will vote for a nincompoop.

Holy Crap!

You step out for a quick little 3400 mile RT and all kinds of deals go down here lol.
RE 1stshow, TOO and I tag teaming it, time is exit to exit, not including time changes, so actual road time including all stops and hassles. Oh, and not quite exactly 1700…she ended up doing more driving this time as I couldn’t sleep, which sucks as I used to be able to sleep anywhere, even on the base of Arc De Triumph in mid day once lol. The key is to limit time not in motion. When velocitzed etc, time gets weird so it’s easy to blow a half hour, or hour at pit stops etc and not realize it. We approach those like an Indy pit crew: one to the restroom while the other does gas etc, try to keep pit stops under 10 minutes, optimally 5!
But hey, still not bad for a couple old farts. Horrible run coming back, many hassles and perhaps too much too fast with only 2 crazy daze in between.
26.25 hours coming back, 23-24 is average. Caught some of the 10/74 XM plays on way there.
But, Nice to to finally get last of the family loose ends tied up and nice to visit the tundra…sort of lol. Beautiful weather and leaves etc back there and Fun to be in the heart of the mafia especially with a home game win, Go Bills!
Always good to get home though!

53: Berry interesting, that rascally rascal Dave does it again lol
Makes sense in a way, not quite 77 or 78 but…
Haven’t heard this one, and still delinquent on this tour?…
Personally would have loved to see the awesome Rochester show, or something from summer Orpheum, but that’s just talkin out my ass..set list looks good and we were due for some 76! Speaking of, figured ole SeventySixtus would be doing Belushi cartwheels here lol Happy for ya Bra!
Yeah DV I still don’t think the Cobo Boxilla show has resonated with me either, but of course always loved DP 33!
I’ll always do sub, can’t beat it for the price and I enjoy them all, even a dog like 51 (sonically that is, the show (s) were ok). Nowadays, where else can you get that much for a lousy 25 bucks (per show). And if we don’t support it, it will ALL go away and we’ll get nada…AND, you can easily gift or sell one if it’s that big a deal…

Really looking forward to 52, and 53…

Not so much The gales of November. All politicians suck or the TPTB wouldn’t allow them to get elected. But unless I’m more senile then I think, we fought the revolutionary war to NOT have a Dictator/King and royal family etc, but for a free democracy…
And I don’t care who it is, even if it was Garcia, even if in all other ways they’ make a great candidate, anyone who worships and quotes Hitler and Hate ain’t never getting my “dumb ass hippie vote”…gotta light?
AIN’T NO TIME TO HATE!
But, fortunately for now at least it’s still a free country with free speech…
Ok, sorry…soap box back in closet…