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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net
One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net
In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net
The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.
Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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November 11, 2024 - 6:47am

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JimInMD

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Re: Dennis et. al. - If you get confused

Listen to the music play.

I listened to a bit of Winterland 73 this weekend. I will never forget some of the early comments on dead.net when this was first released, the one that struck was someone complaining about the sound quality. I dismissed that comment and pure heresy, it sounds great and oh man oh man oh man oh my.. the performances.

I was a bit disappointed not to get a message from BillyTheKidd saying "51 years ago I was at Winterland watching my favorite band. A great time was had by all." I was relieved to read his comments - that at least his brother made it. Also disappointing, I had to read through ten pages of meandering tripe to get there, but hey.. I'll take the win. It did actually make my day his standard, polite and friendly reminder that there is nothing like a grateful dead concert, Winterland 73 being no exception. What a great run and as always, I really wish I was there. Thank god for the tapes and a big shoutout to the genius who decided to hit record.
November 11, 2024 - 6:28am

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Dennis

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I was gonna post my opinion about politics,,,,,

,,,, but decided against. I have very strong, VERY STRONG opinions, but this is NOT the place.

As my old man taught me at an early age, Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one,,,, and they all stink.
November 11, 2024 - 6:17am

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Dennis

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Colin & The Disposable Heroes

And here I thought I was the ONLY one who bought their album "Hypocrisy Is the Greatest Luxury".

My fave was/is Language of Violence. Powerful shit. Heard this cut and that day bought the album.
November 11, 2024 - 5:59am

#324

uncle_tripel

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easy answers...

...ain't saying what will be,
it's always been that way
only thing I know for sure,
someone got to pay
easy answers
ain't no easy answers,
is what I got to say

lyrics by hunter / weir
November 11, 2024 - 5:37am

#325

JimInMD

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Long Strange Trip

A long, strange and really good read. If only you could read these books or tell these stories in reverse.. the ending chapters can be a bit depressing and the has such a great start. I guess that's often true with life. I swore I was going to listen to 30 Trips Around the Sun in reverse order, but one close look at 1967 changed all that.

I also liked McNally's "On Highway 61" book. A nice history of where we are and how we got there. Another long, but excellent read.

Yes, I like to read when time arrives regardless of if I watch TV and what channels I choose to watch.

I finally got caught up on at least ripping the glorious GD bounty we have received this year. Getting all the metadata exactly right takes forever.. From one CD to the next the auto created metadata is never exactly perfect. I like all the CD's of a show in the same folder with a song naming convention that is consistent and works. I also like the song descriptions, track number, show name to be organized and consistent. And whoever decided it's a good idea to the word "live" next to each song will never understand this. Probably works for most bands where all you have is one live version and one studio version but not so much with the band beyond description.

Things are exactly perfect now, nothing left to but listen and smile, smile, smile.

Be good folks, be happy not bitter. Be nice and respectful of and to one another. If nothing else, you'll probably live longer and certainly live happier.
November 11, 2024 - 5:24am

#326

dmcvt

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Right On, Doc

Stop checking for a day and come back to ten pages of "content"? My comment way back was meant as satire, anyone see SNL? They were not worried about free speech... much. Is all the pus out yet? OK, one quick question, how many other presidents suggested shooting bleach during a pandemic? Some great football yesterday, but let's get back to music and our musical heroes. Almost finished McNallys Long Strange Trip. (The Dead avoided politics for a long time). Much enjoyed the song writing references but curiously found nothing about Mississippi Half Step, admittedly is lightweight on lyrics but so much fun. McNally references Jim Rooney, one of our local grandfathers who will be playing this Friday night at a small local venue. Looking forward to Zach Nugent who will be joined by Sunshine Garcia Becker and Cheryl Rucker for an acoustic GD evening, (so no Wolf appearance though he sometimes gets to borrow it). Enjoy your Veterans Day with some music and thanks for your service.
November 11, 2024 - 3:25am

#327

Forensicdoceleven

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In the republic of mediocrity, genius is dangerous.....

Morning, rockers! Thank a veteran.............

This is for all of us-----left, center, or right----who buy into their own particular brand of propaganda and misinformation.............

HCS, thanks for the enlightment. I was not aware that DT was going to morph into a mutant hybrid of Abraham Lincoln and Mother Teresa. I eagerly await the transformation......

Our republic has been damaged before, and it will be again, but it will survive...........

When people in positions of trust mislead us - either recklessly, negligently or intentionally - that impacts the republic............

Think.
Resist.
Rock on!!!

Doc
Let's now return to our regularly scheduled musical content, devoid of politics, religion, and sports. Well, maybe not sports, ice hockey seems to be big around here.........
November 11, 2024 - 2:11am

#328

Colin Gould

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Television, since this seems to be the main topic.

Charlie3

Yes, ‘Spanish Pipedream’ by John Prine is a great song. I do wonder if ICE would deport Jesus if they found him?
I agree tha television has a large impact on people’s thinking but I doubt we’d agree on which channels are pushing the most propaganda.

I have been listening to ‘Television, the drug of the nation’ by The Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprasy’:

“T.V. is the reason why less than ten percent of our
Nation reads books daily
Why most people think Central America
means Kansas
Socialism means unamerican
and Apartheid is a new headache remedy.
Television, the drug of the nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation.”

More than 30 years old and still relevant.

On another topic. The bird that is trying to get through your window can almost certainly see its own reflection and is trying to drive out what it sees as an intruder into its territory. This also happens with side mirrors on cars. Small birds can spend a lot of time in car parks tapping on the side mirrors!
November 11, 2024 - 12:39am

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daverock

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Winterland 1973

Now we are talking. Brokedown Palace playing from 11/10/73 as I type. Beautiful.

The challenge today would surely be to turn off our computers, not T.V.s. All forms of online communication. It's rock n' roll - and the message is .. ..
November 10, 2024 - 11:21pm

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Charlie3

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Random Thoughts While Bored

I find myself thinking of John Prine - "Blow up your TV, throw away your paper, Go to the country, Plant a little garden, Eat a lot of Peaches, Try and find Jesus on your own". Sage advice is timeless.

Some cool new soul by bands with Thee in the title - Thee Sinseers, Thee Heart Tones, Thee Marloes (soul by way of Indonesia, pretty cool), Thee Sacred Souls. A lot of other cool new soul too, lot's of cool stuff on Daptone Records, Big Crown Records and Colemine Records.

Ghost Funk Orchestra has some cool sounds, good stuff to listen to and wonder why I'm not depressed as I watch a three-decade plus marriage implode around me. I seem to have achieved some sort of accidental equanimity.

Life is full of mysteries. The current mystery confronting me is why a particular bird has been attempting to get through my windows and into my house. For two weeks at least. Every day. Over and over. Fly to the window, try to push through. Sit and stare through the window. Fly to a nearby branch and stare some more. Try another window. Repeat. Over and over. Two weeks straight. Same bird. I'm starting to consider opening the window to let it in just to see what it will do. The cats seem to think it's a good idea to solve the mystery, but I think that they have ulterior motives.

It's strange, but I've noticed that somewhere around 75-80mph whatever music I'm listening to in the car sounds better. The cool thing is that's barely over the speed limit if at all on a lot of MT roads.

I'd suggest everyone watch Network again. That movie is a classic, and freakily prescient. "You have meddled with the primal forces of nature Mr. Beale, and I won't have it!" Great performance by Ned Beatty.

When you complain about billionaires throwing their money into politics, don't forget George Soros, he's been in the game a lot longer than Elon, and unlike Elon he has not advanced space travel by decades for humanity. I mean, holy shit, did you see that rocket come in for a landing and get caught by the giant mechanical arms? To think, for decades, NASA just discarded that stuff. Whatever you think about his politics, he has made giant strides in space travel.

Everyone can take heart that money can't buy an election it appears, because KH spent a cool billion dollars in about 100 days and was unsuccessful, suggesting that money alone is insufficient. We all should have already learned that lesson watching JEB! and his insurmountable war chest go down in flames in 2016 after raising a then insane amount of money and going nowhere in the primary.

Boredom is an odd sort of relaxing, "Oh that magic feeling, Nowhere to go, Nowhere to go..."

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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

43 minute Lovelight.

That's longer than most L.P.s ! If anyone asked me about a great Lovelight, I'd suggest they listen to Live Dead. All of it. One of the best live albums ever released, and one in which every track - including Lovelight - adds to the brilliance of the whole. I think that one clocks in at around the 15 minute mark.

Road Trips Vol4 no 1. features a generous helping of this track. The Big Rock Pow Wow from 4/23-24/69. The first disc ends with a 31 minute version and the second opens with a 27 minute version. What are you waiting for?

JoeyMC

Hey Joey,

In Dave's #52 seaside chat he mentions #53, which will be announced soon.
Per Dave, not a 100% verbatim quote, "#53 is a terrific show that has been on the radar for a long time. When we hit this era next this would be the show for that era. Actually it came down to two shows from that era...."

This would seem to indicate the usual suspects like 77 and 73 are out.

Just speculation at this point. Maybe this means 1980, 1968, not sure.

53

??/??/74

Oh yeah

Forgot about the Priest references over the weekend. Unleashed in the East is still my favorite metal album. I listen to it every couple of years. The time frame for me and my priest was a crossover point in life. Hard rock and metal fading getting into the dead asd still love affair with prog rock. Rush, Yes, King Crimson, ELP, etc. Saw a bunch of prog shows. Metal show July 1981, Whitesnake (with Lord and Paice)>Iron Maiden (Killer's Tour)> Priest. All three great but Priest what an incredible voice back then. Was at the Fox Atlanta mid section 10 rows back. Bought tickets the day b4 as we came to atlanta not knowing they were going to be there. Saw them in 1984 in Hometown. Buddies went to see them a couple months back, said they were very good.

Eras

Deadvikes,
I see what you mean, I think there has been a lot of '77 to start the year off in the past. Something completely different would be nice.

Dave, if you asking me, I what I'm waiting for, I was hoping the "Good News" shipping notification for our latest pick, 52.

RIP Paul Di'Anno....

....original vocalist for Iron Maiden.

Dang Vguy

You were right on it. When I saw him Paul and Maiden, they were excellent. Had just stumbled onto them a few months b4 that fox show. May have to track down the first 2 albums. Maiden played home town in 1983. Dickenson was at a local attraction and a buddy who twerked there let me know. Dickinson about 5'8" and was kind of rude. Guess it matches his name.

Yeah!

I have been hoping for this show to be released for years now! Super terrific and as always...go Brent!

Listening to my fav band…

Listening to my fav band after casting my vote for Trump. This country is so effing effed without him. 78 sounds great. smoke another you dumb hippies.

The clouds of delusion are strong in this one

What a maroon

#52

I’ve had a shipping notice! Of course it hasn’t actually moved yet but DHL have been told about it. The process begins.

Listens to his favorite band....

....then proceeds to call hippies dumb.
You can say the word fuck you know.
Go all in. We're all adults here.
Whatever makes sense. Which that post did not.

This week's tapers section

All 80s selection guess Dave is a bit of a prankster to those ripping on this selection.

Waiting for the worms

All you have to do is follow the worms….

Anniversary show 10/21/78 Winterland

46 years ago I was up at Winter land for another killer show with the Good old Grateful Dead. Fun times!

Very jelly btk

10 21 78

Nice

Listening to my fav band

Go have another Arnold Palmer because you are just boring.

Waiting, Waiting...

Dave says 53 sounds incredible, it's a great show/ terrific show... There were two we were looking at last time we hit this era?? The other that didn't make the cut this time we'll get too next time we hit this era...

March 73??

There I go, thinking again...

I'm putting big money on next year's box being fall '72. (Say, $2?) Dave once said it "has to happen" at some point and it's been years since he said that. Not that his loose ruminations are any more reliable than mine. but that's the box I want, so why not predict it? Black magic has been known to work...

I'm thinking that with the DP series devoted to a full, main show, sometimes with filler, and the remaining late '67 and newly discovered '68 tapes unable or unlikely to fill a box (their sweet spot seems to be 15-20 discs) that maybe Rhino/GD will permit OSF to release something early and tasty. Or just do a "special release," (whatever that is) dammit!

I think the enormous volume of '77 and '78 releases is because TPTB cut a deal with the guys behind ABCD Productions that, in exchange for turning over the tapes, TPTB agreed to release a certain torrent of them. Absolutely unconfirmed, so you see I can play fast and loose with reality, which, to be honest, is what I do best.

Just wishing for wishes on sunny fall morning at the foot of the Rockies. Hope # 53 is tasty. Maybe '81? I have good audience cassette tapes from a late friend who taped the late December run (Oakland?) and 12-26-81 really stands out. (marye said she attended and concurred it's a hot one. Did Billy the Kidd?)

Just ruminating here. Put a dollop of Jameson in my coffee this morning. Obviously...

P.S. I'm glad that the folks here are psyched for '80s tapes and that Dave has an enormous inventory of '80s tapes to release. Yet, like someone commented earlier, I too caught many shows in the '80s, or it seemed like a lot. But that experience is one thing, and listening to the tapes 40 some odd years later and buying the corresponding releases is a different matter. So at some point, they've gotta find a rationale for getting the '67-'69 stuff out. Blah blah blah!

H.F. 12/26/81

Yeah, I was there. It was cool to see Garcia sing Big Boss Man. Fun Times

New O.S.F. Release

My reliable sources tell me that is going to be John Hammond from the Boarding House in 1973. I believe that it is coming out in November. I saw John Hammond play a couple of times, it sounds like a winner.

Box...

November '72

Marye also liked 12/28/81

Dav's Pick 53

11/23/73 County Coliseum - El Paso, TX would be cool!

A Day at the Dentist

Been a longtime fan of 12/26/81.

Out of drums, the boys dick around by mimicking drilling sounds from a dental office before going into a cool little jam and then an Eleven jam. Funny as hell. I used to play that for my kids on the way to daycare. They loved it.

I would be up for that one.

OSF

The OSF site is showing a November release for the John Hammond set.
If I look at preordering from the site it calculates customs charges greater than the cost of the cd, so that’s not on. Amazon US are also showing it as available for preorder and the extra charges are considerably lower. Amazon UK isn’t showing the release yet, but they have had all the previous releases so I’ll wait to see if it appears. Should be good.

The Other One!

Good stuff today, except the other one :(

Would love some '81 New Years run.

Colin & Bear

Just finished Bear: The Life and Times of Augustus Owsley Stanley III. Went to his wiki page and indeed the next journal release is 11/24 John Hammond.

Santa Fe 1983

So excited to get the new Dave’s pic! This was one of my all time favorite shows!

RockinRobinKansasStateU is in....

....RIP Fernando Valenzuela.
I'm old enough to remember him pitching.

Sub 25

Is in. Starting with 10/2/76. Good for me.

Gerhard

Where are you seeing this Gerhard?

Sub 25

At store > music > New Releases.

Sub 25

Gerhard, Thanks. My order is in first attempt with no problems.

There it is

Got it, thanks. Strange they don't have it on the opening page.

10/2/76. Alright! Definitely not a normal era for Dave to start the year with. Great idea

Gerhard & Dave's 2025

Thanks for the heads up.

Order in. My 10/2/76 leaves a lot to be desired, so the "official" release will be welcomed.

Seems the announcement is early this year? Is it?

CSN&Y set to arrive on Friday (Live at Fillmore East, 1969).

Enjoy

Vote?

Vote. But please not that terrible and dangerous clown.

53..

PLUS the last 1 set songs from 4/5 - 77, not on Daves 50.. Number 53 will be a great one..

Shipping?

Anyone get a shipping email for this one yet?

No shipping notification for me

Probably in the near future

Man, that's close to '77…

Man, that's close to '77 though isn't it?
Lol.
He kills me this guy Dave...
:)

One of my favorite Grateful Dead shows....

....ever is going to show up normanilized around the same time that the United States will be on the precipice of a potential major crisis.
Santa Fe Morning Dew to the rescue.

Shipping notice received

Label created, package not yet in transit.

The thing with voting..

Gerhard - is that a vast proportion of society will vote for a nincompoop.

Holy Crap!

You step out for a quick little 3400 mile RT and all kinds of deals go down here lol.
RE 1stshow, TOO and I tag teaming it, time is exit to exit, not including time changes, so actual road time including all stops and hassles. Oh, and not quite exactly 1700…she ended up doing more driving this time as I couldn’t sleep, which sucks as I used to be able to sleep anywhere, even on the base of Arc De Triumph in mid day once lol. The key is to limit time not in motion. When velocitzed etc, time gets weird so it’s easy to blow a half hour, or hour at pit stops etc and not realize it. We approach those like an Indy pit crew: one to the restroom while the other does gas etc, try to keep pit stops under 10 minutes, optimally 5!
But hey, still not bad for a couple old farts. Horrible run coming back, many hassles and perhaps too much too fast with only 2 crazy daze in between.
26.25 hours coming back, 23-24 is average. Caught some of the 10/74 XM plays on way there.
But, Nice to to finally get last of the family loose ends tied up and nice to visit the tundra…sort of lol. Beautiful weather and leaves etc back there and Fun to be in the heart of the mafia especially with a home game win, Go Bills!
Always good to get home though!

53: Berry interesting, that rascally rascal Dave does it again lol
Makes sense in a way, not quite 77 or 78 but…
Haven’t heard this one, and still delinquent on this tour?…
Personally would have loved to see the awesome Rochester show, or something from summer Orpheum, but that’s just talkin out my ass..set list looks good and we were due for some 76! Speaking of, figured ole SeventySixtus would be doing Belushi cartwheels here lol Happy for ya Bra!
Yeah DV I still don’t think the Cobo Boxilla show has resonated with me either, but of course always loved DP 33!
I’ll always do sub, can’t beat it for the price and I enjoy them all, even a dog like 51 (sonically that is, the show (s) were ok). Nowadays, where else can you get that much for a lousy 25 bucks (per show). And if we don’t support it, it will ALL go away and we’ll get nada…AND, you can easily gift or sell one if it’s that big a deal…

Really looking forward to 52, and 53…

Not so much The gales of November. All politicians suck or the TPTB wouldn’t allow them to get elected. But unless I’m more senile then I think, we fought the revolutionary war to NOT have a Dictator/King and royal family etc, but for a free democracy…
And I don’t care who it is, even if it was Garcia, even if in all other ways they’ make a great candidate, anyone who worships and quotes Hitler and Hate ain’t never getting my “dumb ass hippie vote”…gotta light?
AIN’T NO TIME TO HATE!
But, fortunately for now at least it’s still a free country with free speech…
Ok, sorry…soap box back in closet…