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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net
One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net
In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net
The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.
Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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October 20, 2024 - 3:37am

#991

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In heaven, all the interesting people are missing......

In regard to 1970...................

Beginning in the Summer and continuing through the Fall and into early Winter, big chunks of 1970 are "missing", probably because they were never originally recorded. There are a few exceptions, most of which are worthy of release some day......

One of the more significant missing pieces is the September Fillmore East run, which was recorded clandestinely by the FE crew. It appears that a lot of those reels went MIA over the years..........

The FW runs of February and April are missing some important parts, maybe they'll be returned some day. Almost the complete June run is there, but I would not recommend those for a box set----portions are kind of rough, although what is there is generally very good............

Many early 1970 shows were recorded and are worth releasing eventually. I would really like to see Corvallis released some day-----really good show.

There are a lot of missing shows from the early years, 1966-1968, which were probably just not recorded or broadcast live on the radio. It appears that they started recording more consistantly in 1969, although frankly, some of those haven't held up too well.........

There are some "missing gaps" from later years, January 1979 comes to mind, as well as some individual "missing shows"----Detroit 10/30/72, with the mind boggle Truckin' comes to mind................

Time for more coffee, dogs, grocery shopping...............

Rock on,

Doc
When you were riding on the crest of a wave, you were most likely to be missing out on something......
October 20, 2024 - 1:42am

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Danehead

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70..

Little 1970 in the vault.. yet the booklet to Daves 51, claims (page13)"This period of 1970 was the only gap in the Deads archive".. is this true.. ? BW from Copenhagen
October 20, 2024 - 12:19am

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Obeah

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TY HF + Doc re '68. '70. Fall '72. Diamonds and Rust.

Yes, I'm vying for worst subject line ever. I'd have done better to follow Dennis' lead and just title it "things". But Mercy and Goodness and Sweetness and Light, you good people gave me a lot to think about!

Thanks Doc and HF for filling me in on those '68 developments. I know there are some vectors like Dead Legs and Dead Air that seem to regularly surface new stuff - or new sources for existing stuff. Not sure who all is part of GEMS but they seem to do heroic work, too. But I tend to run behind the curve, so I appreciate this intel.

@HF I do share your wish the PTB would be a bit more... sensitive? attuned?... to the passage of time. As you said the '70 selections in the vault are pretty sparse. But all the more reason to work on what is there and get it released. If I could rub the lamp and get the genie to grant me influence with the archivist, I'd push for a 'sea change' in the way Lemieux et al approach the box set for the 60th anniversary year. Viz. I'd like to see them curate the entire vault contents for 1970 (or perhaps 1967 and/or 1968 - I pass over 1969 just because I feel it's well-represented already and the need is less pressing) and if a given date doesn't meet the necessary benchmarks to allow it to emerge as a traditional Dave's release (for ex. Vols 19 and 30), then Mockingbird Master what's there, and release it piecemeal. In this way one could build up a historic box... and the sparse nature of the vault's inventory for '70 should make this doable... if they could do 80 CDs for 30 Trips, there's no reason they couldn't do that again for this project.

This would be one of the most important and foundational archival releases that could ever happen, and it seems only right for it to get out while the remaining participants from that era are still on this side of the ground.

More realistically: it would not surprise me at all to see Fall '72 get amalgamated into a box.

The Diamonds and Rust connection with Judas Priest was quite deliberate... I think their producer suggested it to them as a way for them to get radio play in the United States. Somewhere there's an interview with Halford that goes into more detail. I think it says a lot about the band that they didn't dismiss it out of hand and instead really went for it. The whole thing is fascinating on many levels, not least because their cover of the song is quite good. And that's not just my opinion; Baez herself has praised it effusively.
October 20, 2024 - 12:06am

#994

iangillespie

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ESL 63's

True they don't shake your gut like moving coils do but the definition is superb. The QUADS go down to 40 Hz and Phil can still rattle the furniture!
October 19, 2024 - 10:55pm

#995

SPACEBROTHER

Joined:
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Been a while

Saw this release announcement. Subscribed, as I have since the beginning with the last Road Trips year run, and will continue to do so. I love these releases. This year's picks have been solid for me. The 1978 box is cool. I listened through every show once so far and there is some great playing, even with a lot of repetition in song choices for that tour.

Recently listened to the "In and Out of the Garden" MSG 83 shows from that fall tour and they are quite remarkable. The Hartford Dicks Picks 83 show second set pre-drumz segment has Jerry playing incredibly inspired. Brent was always awesome.

I'll never understand the resentment towards any era of the Dead. It's all good. Sure, 94-95 saw Jerry gradually dying from his health issues at a much too young age. I'm now several years older than he was when he died, but he was an old soul even back at the beginning of their career together as a band. I feel fortunate to have seen them about 50 times from 84-95. Almost every show I attended were great, well performed shows, up until the very last two where Jerry looked defeated from life, touring, addictions and the stress from fans that lost touch of the scene which led to incidents like Deer Creek 95.

More recently, caught the Phish shows with Billy Strings sitting in and they are playing fabulously these days. I hadn't seen them for quite a while (a few shows between 94-96 and a show in 2017). I feel I've been missing out and hope they keep that going.

Also seeing Stevie Wonder for the 1st time (fan for almost 50 years), and catching the King Crimson "Beat" line-up in a few weeks. Also caught Marcus King for the first time (great show highly recommended) as well as Warren Haynes on his symphony tour, Greensky (with Billy Strings yet again. Only recently picking up on his thing and that kid can play). Also caught a solo Trey TAB show, which was excellent, plus The Four Tops and Temptations on their current lineups (wish I could've seen them back in the day. Still quite entertaining, plus a couple of songs performed that Jerry covered!).

All in all this has been a fun year musically. If a certain villian gets enough votes to repeat and escalate his dismantling of our country, the fin stuff will evaporate and we'll probably all lose our jobs, pensions, retirements and God knows what else. All I can say is please vote and keep that ruthless crooked bastard out.

I guess I'm up to date now. Later....
October 19, 2024 - 2:46pm

#996

Deadicated

Joined:
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And, and ...

the show that benefitted the most from the "Plangent process" in the Listen to the River box is 10/19/72 - what we had before grated ... now is beautiful. Gracias, PTB.
October 19, 2024 - 2:34pm

#997

Deadicated

Joined:
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10/19/71

If ever there were a show ripe for release it's 10/19/71. Just because.
October 19, 2024 - 2:18pm

#998

simonrob

Joined:
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ESL 63's...

Great speakers, but do you get enough bass from them?
October 19, 2024 - 1:07pm

#999

iangillespie

Joined:
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Electrostatics

QUAD ESL 63's - the greatest transducer ever designed
October 19, 2024 - 12:10pm

#1000

Forensicdoceleven

Joined:
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Music is moonlight in the gloomy night of life.....

Hey rockers!!

Since HF mentioned the fabulous Fall of 1972..........

By that time Owsley was out of jail and back recording. We know he recorded at least one of the September Boston Music Hall shows. Hopefully he recorded the Texas shows---which would make a fine box set---and maybe just maybe those are in those banana boxes. The ones that I remain very curious about........

One can always dream.......

If the king loves music, there is little wrong in the land.....

Rock on,

Doc
Music comes from a place we don't know......

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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

I am from the East Coast and…

I am from the East Coast and was in Santa Fe for a work related trip and got to this show. I have some pics from up close and one that stands out is Phil sharing the mic with Bobby (wish I could post it here!) - this was probably a rarity them both sharing one mic (like the Beatles did). I have a pic with rainbow in the background as well. Cool show!!

Shipping Update

Welp, it’s made it to the hub in Rossford, OH, which is about 1.5 hours from my house. It’ll be interesting to see how long it sits there before it makes it to me.

More Phil on vinyl

11-10-67.
Spectacular!
And I’m only in the first song, that being Viola.

Anniversary show 10/28/84 B.C.T.

40 years ago it was Sunday night with the Grateful Dead, great show. Fun times.

Phil

Alembic mission control. Groovy bass. So long, Phil. I dedicate Moby Grape - boysenberry jam to Phil.

#52

Anyone receive this one yet?

Mine is now scheduled for this Friday, November 1.

Would love an expedited shipping option.

14838

Arrived through time travel, here in Central New York.

It's amazing how fast they CAN come, but usually don't. I think it left Fontana on the 26th...

The Downs Of Santa Fe....

....scheduled to arrive on Halloween 🎃.

RGM & Rhino

RGM CD Sale -
Road Trips Vol.1 No.1 - Fall '79 $16.99
RT Vol.1 No.2 - Oct '77 $14.99
RT Vol.1 No.4 - From Egypt w/ Love $19.99
Dick's Picks - 14 & 28 are $39.99 each,
DiP - 32 is $24.99
For those that need to fill in.

Rhino -
Has a new Rush compilation.
Atlantic years '89-'96 on 6 LPs.
If you're into that sort of thing.

Cheers

Pending

Mine is here in NYC but acceptance is pending I suspect I will see it tomorrow. First time however I never even got an estimated delivery date. I ordered an LP from phish came damaged I replied to shipping email got help within 15 minutes and the replacement is out the door and on it’s way amazing how good customer service can actually be it is possible Warner rhino whomever.

mine arrived yesterday

not sure when I can give it my full attention, but sometime soon

Santa Fe

Arrived yesterday. Listened to first couple songs first set. Very punchy beginning.

It's that time of year y'all....

....time for my annual viewing of The Exorcist.
Good, scary stuff.
RIP Teri Garr.
Sucks that a lot of my favorites are passing away.
Que sera sera.

Shipping

My copy is scheduled to arrive in Maryland on Saturday 11/2...8 days after the "release date".

So frustrating.

52

Out for delivery.
A day early,
so to speak.
Cheers

Favorite Teri Garr performances;
- Original Star Trek episode - Gary Seven
- Mr. Mom
- Young Frankenstein

Waiting…

UPS Mail Innovations is horrible. Mine left Fontana, CA on 10/26 and arrived in Rossford, OH on 10/28. It took 51 hours to drive it 2,194 miles. It’s been sitting in Rossford for 50 hours, which is only 105 miles from my house. According to Google Maps, I could walk there in 39 hours. It’s scheduled to be delivered tomorrow, but there’s no way that’s gonna happen if it’s not even at my local post office yet.

Anniversary show 10/30/84. B.C.T.

40 years ago I was up at the B.C.T for a knockout show with the Grateful Dead, they kicked off the show with Dancing in the Streets and Dire Wolf. This was my favorite show of the run, but they all were great! I bought a cool poster outside the show from Rick Griffin, very cool. Big fun!

Mail Enervations

Mine took 36 hours to go from Carlsbad to San Leandro - not even 500 miles. And it was picked up late at night, or at least that's when it was scanned, so passing through the greater LA area on its way North shouldn't have been too slow. Ah well. I'm still working my way through the '78 Box so speed isn't of the essence for me with this release.

Something up with the store?

Something up with the store? Keep getting the oops something went wrong message.

Release date

Is not delivery date.

Got mine today, hope you all get yours soon.

Speed isn't of the essense....

....just wait until you hear it Obeah. Then get back to me 🍻.

you're on, Vguy

Sounds like this is the '83 I need! We'll revisit this after I take delivery <3

CD1 spinning

Currently on WLA.
Still got my subwoofer turned up, might need to turn it down a bit, house is vibrating.
This may the best sounding ‘83 recording I’ve heard.
The centerfold of the booklet makes it look like the show wasn’t all that crowded.

Ready, set, go...

Neighbors forewarned.

Set 2 qued.

Volume up.

Yes.

#16,749 Arrived

Mine went thru Rossford and arrived today in Cleveland suburb.

Let It Grow

Burning up my speakers.
It’s hot.

Conekid....

....damn straight sir!
I have good picks as well. I am so happy this got officially released.

Indeed RIP Teri Garr

She was cool

"Roll roll
Roll in ze hay!"

Interesting tidbit of info: my coworker's father's partner was a caregiver to TG (TG had multiple sclerosis)

Y'all be cool, TG

#17725.....

....Has arrived just a bit outside Rose City, Oregonia!
Downloaded to the computer and thoroughly enjoying.

Anniversary show 10/30/83 Marin Veterans Auditorium

41 years ago, I was up at the tiny Marin Veterans Auditorium for an absolute knockout of an evening with the Good old Grateful Dead. We really cut loose at this show, and it was a blast! Fun times!

Well, I Met #11,554 Accidentally, In Saint Paul, Minnesota

This space is getting hot inDEED! Listened to the first disc while trying out the new Joss Cocobolo pool cue that also arrived today--love them BOTH!

Left California.

At this moment, my Dave's 52 is on a flight from LAX to Frankfurt. After that it has to get from Germany to the Netherlands, through customs and on to PostNL who will deliver it. With luck, I'll have it sometime next week.

#24588

Has arrived in TN. It will be the weekend before I can delve into it.

#12297

Currently on disc one and the sound and playing are great!

West LA has some extra funk/zip to it. Very nice!!!

Hope every one waiting gets theirs soon, as the long shipping can be a drag.

In a nod to Warner Music, they have kept the price good on the Dave's releases.

Maybe priority option for shipping??

rock on, gang

In UK

Mine has arrived in the UK. The Hermes tracking link on the DHL site doesn’t work but entering the tracking number into EVRI tracking shows that they got it this morning. It’s not likely to arrive before next week as EVRI doesn’t usually deliver at the weekend. I look forward to playing it.

No Shipping Notice Yet

No Shipping Notice Yet
???

Shipping Update 2

First off, I’m not complaining. Even if I did get it today, I would not be be able to dive in until the weekend.
It did arrive in Cleveland yesterday, after sitting in Toledo for 2.5 days. It was then shipped down to Akron, where it sat for about an hour. Then it was sent back to Cleveland, where it’s been for about 15 hours.
So silly…

#10406

In the house 2 days ahead of original scheduled delivery. Been on the road for 2 weeks, got back last night, and it was delivered to the PO this morning. Lucky in that USPS and UPS in this small part of the intermountain west are both excellent and preferred for delivery and UPS Surepost generally operates seamlessly and as designed. My copies are never shipped in the first wave but when they hit the road they generally move smooth.

Spinning Disc 1 now. Sounds great! Cut my deck to the Queen of Spades but the cards were all the same!

BOOOO, Scary

Received notice the 23rd; still hasn't been received by shipper. Now I am scared, don't know what is going on.

As Eric once sang, "I'm Waiting!"

So waiting patiently, may be here today for all I know.

Smile, everyone have a Happy Halloween!!!

Dang, game 5 for a interested bystander turned out wild to watch. For me, no emotional ties.

Edit game 5.

BTK 1984 BCT

Love that run. I always got hung up on 1984/10/28. From what I remember had long, deep freak time on a short setlist. Again, very old memories indeed, over 20 years for sure since last go round. Haven't heard 1983/10/30. Look forward to it someday soon.

#7597

Has arrived on schedule. No issues. Not listening tonight.
"Night of the Living Dead" takes priority. "They're coming to get you, Barbara."
Happy Halloween, everybody!

Sante Fe / Red Rocks

Just got the new Sante Fe show and love it!! Almost went to this show but ran into difficulties after the Red Rocks shows right before . . . I have a question for Dave: When are we going to get some Red Rocks Shows?

Yeah Dave...

What he said.
August '78 pair of shows.
Lots of good '80s R.R. shows
Box?
Cheers

No Sante Fe today....

....shame. I was planning on giving out hatch chilies for Halloween.

Anniversary show 10 /31/83 The last St. Stephen

41 years ago I up at the tiny Marin Veterans Auditorium for a rocking Halloween with the Good old Grateful Dead. They played St.Stephen for the last time. I saw them play it one other time at the Orpheum theatre on 7/13/76. My favorite St.Stephen 10/12/68 but lots of fantastic versions.

52..

Looking forward to the new pick - never met a show with a "Dew" i didnt like.. so far I have liked/loved a Daves, save one; number 48 wich I found was a below standard show. My hope for 2026 ( I know..) is that Lemieux will expand the series to 5 yearly releases - nr. 5 beeing a New Yearsshow in December.. BW from Copenhagen - and I hope everyone will vote and be safe next week..

Arrived

#3954 has just been posted through my door. That’s only 12 days since the initial shipping notice and 9 since the release date. Congratulations to EVRI on getting it to me so quickly.
I hope for a large turnout in your upcoming elections and that whatever the result it will be accepted as a fair outcome. I, obviously, have a preferred candidate but I wouldn’t want to be accused of trying to influence the election!

RIP our sweetest friend. Everyone goes away, in the end.

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