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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net
One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net
In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net
The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.
Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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October 19, 2024 - 10:21am

#851

proudfoot

Joined:
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Perhaps

The ptb are communicating to us that the well of what they consider releaseable is running dry.

They will never tell us directly of course.

We are indeed getting older every day, so please, ptb: release that 60s stuff asap. If you have it.

I am perfectly happy with 9 11 83. I would love to see a bunch of 60s next year, too.

I will listen, subscribe, and sit right here until I die.

Aye, the writhing beast.

GBtGD
October 19, 2024 - 9:07am

#852

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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Doc covered it...

I'm just a tad fuzzy this morning, so I won't look up the dates, but yes, Obeah, at least (3) known '68 tapes have not been released. As HendrixFreak, I'm acutely aware of the passage of time and the need for the band's early development to get a full airing. Forensic Doc probably covered an answer to your question.

I find myself falling into Angry Jack Straw's camp. I'm happy that an '83 release floats a lot of boats, but I'm interested in Norman-ized early years, specifically late '67 to '74. We've got most of '74, a ton of '73, leaving fall '72 as rich in unreleased shows that should be a box. Spring '71 still has gold in them thar hills. We know that '70 tapes are rare but whatever's there deserves attention. Then there's the writhing beast of '67-'69.

As for surprises, it's well known that a decade ago Mtn Girl turned over a few GD reels from the early '70s. And recently she went to an archivist in Seattle to digitize several boxes of reels and cassettes from Jer's stash -- mostly JG side trips, is my impression.

So, lots of goodies floating around. I've been a steady customer since 1971, though I stepped off the (GD) bus in '87, burnt to a crisp and tired of "the scene." Now it's down to the tapes. And I find myself focusing on the front end of the band's development. (Though '89 has some monster shows...) Those of us who want what's left of the '68 beast are gettin' old and NOW is probably a good time to get the early stuff out. (And get off my lawn, etc....)

Okay, rambling now. A second cup of Joe should help.

Paz, HF
October 19, 2024 - 8:08am

#853

Brad125

Joined:
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Re: @ KRIYAS

6-30-86 is soooo under-rated.
Was a HOT show. 13th row center in the pavillion.
I would personally LOVE IT.
October 19, 2024 - 7:58am

#854

Gary Farseer

Joined:
August 1, 2015

JJC

Jeff smith is away on a trip. He posted that he would provide the scans when he gets back. Another poster said he would provide also, just cant remember who. Jeff's stuff is always an impressive scan.

Cheers!

Edit: You can probably go ahead and send him a DM here. He will get back with you that way but you could also put an email in the DM and I am sure he will send directly. Can't remember how long he was away but guessing he is back in next 10 days or so.

G
October 19, 2024 - 2:17am

#855

Forensicdoceleven

Joined:
June 17, 2008

For who can bear to feel himself forgotten?

Speaking of bear.............or is it Bear?????

HF may----emphasis on may---be referring to the June 68 recordings I just supplied him with. June 8 and 9, partials, excellent soundboards, these tasty fragments hit general circulation in 2022. For some reason it doesn't get talked about a lot......

OR he may be referring to the previously never-circulated 1968 Dead recording that OSF referenced a while back. I forget the date but I thought it was May.

OSF also verified that they have the April 1969 Avalon run, although the 6th remains incomplete.

OSF hasn't put out any Dead releases yet but what they have issued is excellent quality and always very interesting. I highly recommned them...........

Time for more coffee, and walking dogs............

Bear up, my child, bear up; Zeus who oversees and directs all things is still mighty in heaven.....

Rock on,

Doc
Let us be of good cheer, however, remembering that the misfortunes hardest to bear are those which never come......
October 18, 2024 - 9:34pm

#856

Obeah

Joined:
January 14, 2017

Judas Priest and 1968

Judas Priest. BITD I was into anarcho punk, crust punk, the UK82 bands, but I largely stayed away from metal. One night a friend and I were doing the thing people did back then - trading rounds and taking turns at "you heard this record?" I hit him with the first Discharge LP (talking about life-changing) but then he hit me back with Priest's "Unleashed in the East". I was super intrigued... a metal band covering The Green Manalishi? And covering Joan Baez?!? (Diamonds and Rust) It was one of those brilliant moments where I realized that my preconceived notions were holding me back from enjoying some amazing music. So it's great to hear Halford and Co are still rocking out.

Now then... HF, can you or can someone elaborate about on comment re: "...the recently discovered '68 tapes" ? Is this just a reference to Bear's banana boxes, or is it something else? For in the immortal words of PG Wodehouse, "you interest me strangely".
October 18, 2024 - 7:08pm

#857

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
October 2, 2012

Long time listener

First time caller.

A nod to Doc, Sir James and Oro. For obvious reasons.

I first saw the band live in the early 80s. There was nothing better. Not even close. But that era has not aged well. If you like it, so be it. How many of you still have avocado or mustard colored kitchens? Or still wear bell bottom jeans. They were cool back in their time.

The 80s are rough with those plinky keyboards. They just are. Fun at the time, but unlistenable now. To me at least.

I won’t deny that there were some unbelievable shows. Augusta 84, most of the summer of 85, most of 87. Then not so much.

I’m truly happy for the folks that want the later era shows. It’s just not my thing anymore. This release won’t even get played.

When I first discovered the archive and was able to listen to earlier era shows, I was in disbelief. I couldn’t believe how much better the band was back then. To my ears. That music is timeless. Spinning 5/3/72 now.

As the old saying goes, if you can’t spot the donkey, it’s you.

I was the donkey.
October 18, 2024 - 6:25pm

#858

hendrixfreak

Joined:
February 26, 2014

Just stopping by to say....

That ForensicDoc is a good guy and an outstanding Deadhead.

Also, I'd be stopping by to add my two cents, except the website keeps telling me it doesn't recognize me, bad password, yada yada, when it's been good for 2024 so far. Not a complaint, just a fact.

Oh yeah, my one comment is that the next two picks are "a show," which means that the recently discovered '68 tapes won't make it to a Dave's Pick. Sooo.... how about GD/Rhino do a little special release next year that includes ... 2-3 '68 shows?

How am I doin'?? Getting a little repetitive in my old age??
October 18, 2024 - 4:28pm

#859

jjc

Joined:
July 21, 2021

sure would be

Nice if they started giving us a hi res file of the cover art.
October 18, 2024 - 4:20pm

#860

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

PJ. Love em or hate em....

....but they have a top shelf business model.
Saw Judas Preist Wednesday night. Great show. Rob Halford has still got it 💥

John Perry Barlow

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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

I am from the East Coast and…

I am from the East Coast and was in Santa Fe for a work related trip and got to this show. I have some pics from up close and one that stands out is Phil sharing the mic with Bobby (wish I could post it here!) - this was probably a rarity them both sharing one mic (like the Beatles did). I have a pic with rainbow in the background as well. Cool show!!

Shipping Update

Welp, it’s made it to the hub in Rossford, OH, which is about 1.5 hours from my house. It’ll be interesting to see how long it sits there before it makes it to me.

More Phil on vinyl

11-10-67.
Spectacular!
And I’m only in the first song, that being Viola.

Anniversary show 10/28/84 B.C.T.

40 years ago it was Sunday night with the Grateful Dead, great show. Fun times.

Phil

Alembic mission control. Groovy bass. So long, Phil. I dedicate Moby Grape - boysenberry jam to Phil.

#52

Anyone receive this one yet?

Mine is now scheduled for this Friday, November 1.

Would love an expedited shipping option.

14838

Arrived through time travel, here in Central New York.

It's amazing how fast they CAN come, but usually don't. I think it left Fontana on the 26th...

The Downs Of Santa Fe....

....scheduled to arrive on Halloween 🎃.

RGM & Rhino

RGM CD Sale -
Road Trips Vol.1 No.1 - Fall '79 $16.99
RT Vol.1 No.2 - Oct '77 $14.99
RT Vol.1 No.4 - From Egypt w/ Love $19.99
Dick's Picks - 14 & 28 are $39.99 each,
DiP - 32 is $24.99
For those that need to fill in.

Rhino -
Has a new Rush compilation.
Atlantic years '89-'96 on 6 LPs.
If you're into that sort of thing.

Cheers

Pending

Mine is here in NYC but acceptance is pending I suspect I will see it tomorrow. First time however I never even got an estimated delivery date. I ordered an LP from phish came damaged I replied to shipping email got help within 15 minutes and the replacement is out the door and on it’s way amazing how good customer service can actually be it is possible Warner rhino whomever.

mine arrived yesterday

not sure when I can give it my full attention, but sometime soon

Santa Fe

Arrived yesterday. Listened to first couple songs first set. Very punchy beginning.

It's that time of year y'all....

....time for my annual viewing of The Exorcist.
Good, scary stuff.
RIP Teri Garr.
Sucks that a lot of my favorites are passing away.
Que sera sera.

Shipping

My copy is scheduled to arrive in Maryland on Saturday 11/2...8 days after the "release date".

So frustrating.

52

Out for delivery.
A day early,
so to speak.
Cheers

Favorite Teri Garr performances;
- Original Star Trek episode - Gary Seven
- Mr. Mom
- Young Frankenstein

Waiting…

UPS Mail Innovations is horrible. Mine left Fontana, CA on 10/26 and arrived in Rossford, OH on 10/28. It took 51 hours to drive it 2,194 miles. It’s been sitting in Rossford for 50 hours, which is only 105 miles from my house. According to Google Maps, I could walk there in 39 hours. It’s scheduled to be delivered tomorrow, but there’s no way that’s gonna happen if it’s not even at my local post office yet.

Anniversary show 10/30/84. B.C.T.

40 years ago I was up at the B.C.T for a knockout show with the Grateful Dead, they kicked off the show with Dancing in the Streets and Dire Wolf. This was my favorite show of the run, but they all were great! I bought a cool poster outside the show from Rick Griffin, very cool. Big fun!

Mail Enervations

Mine took 36 hours to go from Carlsbad to San Leandro - not even 500 miles. And it was picked up late at night, or at least that's when it was scanned, so passing through the greater LA area on its way North shouldn't have been too slow. Ah well. I'm still working my way through the '78 Box so speed isn't of the essence for me with this release.

Something up with the store?

Something up with the store? Keep getting the oops something went wrong message.

Release date

Is not delivery date.

Got mine today, hope you all get yours soon.

Speed isn't of the essense....

....just wait until you hear it Obeah. Then get back to me 🍻.

you're on, Vguy

Sounds like this is the '83 I need! We'll revisit this after I take delivery <3

CD1 spinning

Currently on WLA.
Still got my subwoofer turned up, might need to turn it down a bit, house is vibrating.
This may the best sounding ‘83 recording I’ve heard.
The centerfold of the booklet makes it look like the show wasn’t all that crowded.

Ready, set, go...

Neighbors forewarned.

Set 2 qued.

Volume up.

Yes.

#16,749 Arrived

Mine went thru Rossford and arrived today in Cleveland suburb.

Let It Grow

Burning up my speakers.
It’s hot.

Conekid....

....damn straight sir!
I have good picks as well. I am so happy this got officially released.

Indeed RIP Teri Garr

She was cool

"Roll roll
Roll in ze hay!"

Interesting tidbit of info: my coworker's father's partner was a caregiver to TG (TG had multiple sclerosis)

Y'all be cool, TG

#17725.....

....Has arrived just a bit outside Rose City, Oregonia!
Downloaded to the computer and thoroughly enjoying.

Anniversary show 10/30/83 Marin Veterans Auditorium

41 years ago, I was up at the tiny Marin Veterans Auditorium for an absolute knockout of an evening with the Good old Grateful Dead. We really cut loose at this show, and it was a blast! Fun times!

Well, I Met #11,554 Accidentally, In Saint Paul, Minnesota

This space is getting hot inDEED! Listened to the first disc while trying out the new Joss Cocobolo pool cue that also arrived today--love them BOTH!

Left California.

At this moment, my Dave's 52 is on a flight from LAX to Frankfurt. After that it has to get from Germany to the Netherlands, through customs and on to PostNL who will deliver it. With luck, I'll have it sometime next week.

#24588

Has arrived in TN. It will be the weekend before I can delve into it.

#12297

Currently on disc one and the sound and playing are great!

West LA has some extra funk/zip to it. Very nice!!!

Hope every one waiting gets theirs soon, as the long shipping can be a drag.

In a nod to Warner Music, they have kept the price good on the Dave's releases.

Maybe priority option for shipping??

rock on, gang

In UK

Mine has arrived in the UK. The Hermes tracking link on the DHL site doesn’t work but entering the tracking number into EVRI tracking shows that they got it this morning. It’s not likely to arrive before next week as EVRI doesn’t usually deliver at the weekend. I look forward to playing it.

No Shipping Notice Yet

No Shipping Notice Yet
???

Shipping Update 2

First off, I’m not complaining. Even if I did get it today, I would not be be able to dive in until the weekend.
It did arrive in Cleveland yesterday, after sitting in Toledo for 2.5 days. It was then shipped down to Akron, where it sat for about an hour. Then it was sent back to Cleveland, where it’s been for about 15 hours.
So silly…

#10406

In the house 2 days ahead of original scheduled delivery. Been on the road for 2 weeks, got back last night, and it was delivered to the PO this morning. Lucky in that USPS and UPS in this small part of the intermountain west are both excellent and preferred for delivery and UPS Surepost generally operates seamlessly and as designed. My copies are never shipped in the first wave but when they hit the road they generally move smooth.

Spinning Disc 1 now. Sounds great! Cut my deck to the Queen of Spades but the cards were all the same!

BOOOO, Scary

Received notice the 23rd; still hasn't been received by shipper. Now I am scared, don't know what is going on.

As Eric once sang, "I'm Waiting!"

So waiting patiently, may be here today for all I know.

Smile, everyone have a Happy Halloween!!!

Dang, game 5 for a interested bystander turned out wild to watch. For me, no emotional ties.

Edit game 5.

BTK 1984 BCT

Love that run. I always got hung up on 1984/10/28. From what I remember had long, deep freak time on a short setlist. Again, very old memories indeed, over 20 years for sure since last go round. Haven't heard 1983/10/30. Look forward to it someday soon.

#7597

Has arrived on schedule. No issues. Not listening tonight.
"Night of the Living Dead" takes priority. "They're coming to get you, Barbara."
Happy Halloween, everybody!

Sante Fe / Red Rocks

Just got the new Sante Fe show and love it!! Almost went to this show but ran into difficulties after the Red Rocks shows right before . . . I have a question for Dave: When are we going to get some Red Rocks Shows?

Yeah Dave...

What he said.
August '78 pair of shows.
Lots of good '80s R.R. shows
Box?
Cheers

No Sante Fe today....

....shame. I was planning on giving out hatch chilies for Halloween.

Anniversary show 10 /31/83 The last St. Stephen

41 years ago I up at the tiny Marin Veterans Auditorium for a rocking Halloween with the Good old Grateful Dead. They played St.Stephen for the last time. I saw them play it one other time at the Orpheum theatre on 7/13/76. My favorite St.Stephen 10/12/68 but lots of fantastic versions.

52..

Looking forward to the new pick - never met a show with a "Dew" i didnt like.. so far I have liked/loved a Daves, save one; number 48 wich I found was a below standard show. My hope for 2026 ( I know..) is that Lemieux will expand the series to 5 yearly releases - nr. 5 beeing a New Yearsshow in December.. BW from Copenhagen - and I hope everyone will vote and be safe next week..

Arrived

#3954 has just been posted through my door. That’s only 12 days since the initial shipping notice and 9 since the release date. Congratulations to EVRI on getting it to me so quickly.
I hope for a large turnout in your upcoming elections and that whatever the result it will be accepted as a fair outcome. I, obviously, have a preferred candidate but I wouldn’t want to be accused of trying to influence the election!

RIP our sweetest friend. Everyone goes away, in the end.

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