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    Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

     

    I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

    One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

    In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

    The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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    Strider! Can you please explain how someone calling attention to the repeatedly stale picks, as well as the recent technically deficient FOTD release, is a "buzzkill" ?? As stated, I am personally a huge fan of the Brent years - but the fact remains that the picks are getting stale. I guess if you are not blindly praising and paying Lemieux for whatever half-ass*d product he chooses to put out, then you are a hater. Happy to wear that label if so.

    Personally, I prefer when I purchase something for it to work as expected and not be laden with file errors or poor audio. Did you even listen to 51? Sound quality was utter garbage

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    My favorite show of the 80s.

    Remind me not to read all the comments. Hater posts about this Dead show. No buzz kill please.
    Thank you Dave. Great pick.

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    Home town shows for me (lived a couple miles away in La Cienega). It was the Best and the Worst of times....

    Best was 3 Red Rocks shows, then coming home for this, and even better, the night off in between was Zozobra night, the kickoff of Santa Fe's Fiesta weekend...ten thousand plus gathered to burn Old Man Gloom, a 50' puppet, groaning and waving his arms in full ritual glory, letting go all our glooms from the year. So fun to share that with a friend from back east and a couple new show-friends who tagged along as we came south!

    Also Best was the aforementioned weather magic, lightning in the foothills behind the stage as the first set ended, and the rainbow as they cranked it up for set 2 with Help on the Way. Classic!

    The Worst, I'm afraid, reared its head in both concrete and creative realms....The Downs was set up for these shows (as in the previous fall) with the stage facing the grandstand from across the track's oval. This created some awful echoes for those in the middle; of course, you could solve that by moving up close enough to the speakers to overwhelm the echo....or by being way back in the stands....but not ideal for those who like to wander! (a later Lyle Lovett show I saw there rectified this by setting up parallel to the stands).

    Sadly, this show featured what I felt at the time to be my clearest experience of Jerry's issues in these years. The way I heard the Help/Slip/Franklins sequence, Bobby was doing something really fun and creative at one point (I'm a "Bobby Fans are People, Too" guy), and ol' Jer just totally fell off the side of the train at just the point we were primed for him to ante up and raise the stakes. Just lost it. Happens to the best of us, I know....but it was pretty striking at the time.

    The next summer, my compilation of the few(ish) highlights of that year's set of Red Rocks shows was called "Are We Having Fun Yet?" It was a rough stretch for sure.

    Ah, well, not griping about the release or the band or the challenges Jerry was grappling with. Just my memories of these shows.... Which of course were still way fun in the moment despite the transient reminders of the deeper troubles lurking within.

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    Butch - I agree with most of your post - I'm not sure I'd go along with remixing a show and dropping a musician that was there out of the mix ( Brent) however irksome his contributions became.

    I enjoyed a lot of live music in the 1980's that doesn't stand up to close scrutiny now. I saw Hawkwind loads of time in the 80's and always enjoyed it - but I wouldn't recommend any of their live albums from that era. You really had to have been there - and I suspect it's the same with Dead shows. Maybe they will concentrate on souvenir shows from now on - ones that the greatest number of people attended, which would necessarily mean concentrating on 1980s-1990s.
    Not good. This could be the first year when I haven't wanted any of the Daves Picks shows that have come out.

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    Yes, September 11, Dennis.

    Yes, it has been a different couple of years for Dave's Picks, but put me in the camp of wanting more variety, not less. There are tons of great shows out there from all eras. But, not everybody will be happy.

    For me, the Frost shows were my favorite so far and that was a surprise to me, but I really like them and keep listening to them.

    Based on sales, #49 is the only one that is actually sold out. You still have three from last year that are still available. Maybe they should cut it back a few thousand. Not sure that will happen.

    My least favorite of the year was #51, sound quality is not very good.

    I haven't heard the Santa Fe show yet, looking forward to it.

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    When will Lemieux stop hoarding and grifting?

    Could not agree more with Butch's comment about how poor these releases have gotten, and this is coming from a huge fan of the Brent years. David, why do you continue to keep so many of the great, classic shows bottled up and give us this bull instead? Holding it all for the inevitable $5-600 GD60 Box?

    Even worse than the choice of show for Vol 52 - how could anyone confidently expect a quality product from these clowns when the FOTD set was such a flaming pile of trash?

    At my last count nearly 40 tracks in the set are totally unplayable, with no solution from Lemiuex and the crew but a refund - if you take the time to reach out and ask. No one from Dead.net coming out and saying, "hey - don't buy this it doesn't work properly." Very shady if you asked me but oh well, on to the next release of "top notch Grateful Dead music," so who cares! I wonder if/when enough of us heads will realize that these "archivists" are really just grifters ripping us all off.

    My recommendation to anyone reading; buy a cheap external hard drive and fill it with free, high quality FLAC for less $ than you're spending on one or two of these bogus releases. Stop giving David Lemieux your money for nothing of value in return.

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    Numbers on Birds?

    I see 11 & 40 on the birds,,, I assume the 40 is mick's birthday. Is 11 the date?

  • Butch
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    Worst Dave's Picks Year

    I'm done subscribing. There is so much good 60s and 70s material in the vault, and half the releases these days are the band on the decline. Doesn't matter how many people were buying tickets for the shows (thus is always the argument for the 80s), the recordings suck. I don't how people can stand listening to that keyboard player's bar band vocals. Sure the concerts were great live and in person, but so were the Stones this year but I am not listening to a recording of them in 2024. It's no secret why sales are down. There used to be so many subscriptions that these things would sell out in less than 24 hours. It goes to show hiw few people want a subscription where they're getting two Brent shows a year, usually with bad audio. I would remix Spring 90 without his vocals or most of his keyboards. Dude, learn when to stop playing. Oh, but he made Jerry smile onstage. Never mind. Keep them coming.

    We had 1 show from before the hiatus in 2024, including the box set. Dave, Rhino, and Pinkus don't deserve my money when they're holding back great material from 68-74. There won't be 25K Dave's Picks per release next year. They got cocky and tried to mix in too much after hiatus music. The Dave's Picks titanic is sinking. Shame.

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    For my money, the best tour between the end of 1978 and the Summer of 1987.

    LOVE the cover art!

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    A fun release! Wish I could of seen these two shows cause its NM (an adopted state - work there, all over the state, on a regular basis) and Santa Fe (beautiful fascinating town with deep history - famous for good reasons), and yeah, they're smoking outdoor shows with awesome high desert weather. Really love the racing roadrunners!! NM state bird - always happy with a roadrunner sighting!

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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

 

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

I asked you if you would commit to the no TV challenge.

Now you are pleading to the admin to censor me?

But when I say that people of your political persuasion like to censor opposing views, just like they do on TV and SM, you would claim it's not true, even while you yourself are asking for me to be censored.

Irony, and hypocrisy.

I can see now there is no way you could give up your TV for a week.

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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, losing your edge
After reading all that I'm grabbing a bottle of Chardonnay and watching Titanic by the way!
(That's an easily discernible lie, just to clarify chump)
Have fun sniffing the king's throne Son

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....I am unfortunately very familiar with these types of voices.
If trying to offend or show "proof" is the goal, one should bait in another lake.
Not gonna work here.
Thanks for playing though!

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That's rich coming from a guy who thinks the woman who came in last place in her primary, but was installed as her party's candidate at the last minute because the democratically elected candidate was discovered to be a dementia patient, is somehow legitimate. 🙄

Perfect example of the power of TV brainwashing. Burnsy can't even tell wrong from right, up from down, or legitimately voted for from installed by unelected handlers.

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Has it occured to anyone that the dementia patient has not been running the country?

So who has then? Not anyone that was elected into that position. Is it legal for unelected handlers to be making presidential decisions for our country because the "President" has dementia?

And if it wasn't for the debate, where his dementia was on full display on live television, we (and by that I mean, you), wouldn't have even known he has dementia and isn't running the country.

Aren't you even the least bit concerned about this? Or didn't your TV tell you to be concerned, and so you're not.

Maybe it's time to turn the TV off and use your own brains again.

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Who the hell is running the country right now?

Everyone ans their brother saw during the debate that Biden has dementia. He can't even walk off stage without his handlers telling him which way to exit, and even then he goes the wrong way, putting his hand out to shake hands with imaginary people who aren't there!

Don't try to pretend it's not true, you know it is! You saw it with your own eyes! But you don't care! Why? Because your TV didn't tell you to care, that's why!

So, who's running the country? Some unelected handlers that are controllig the dementia patient, that's who.

But you're all OK with that, never gave it a second thought, because your TV has you under a spell.

It is THE most egregious betrayal of our democracy ever, and the Left doesn't care, and you don't care, because your TV didn't tell you to care.

Turn the TV off and use your own brains.

.....cmon man. That's all you got?
Do it again.
And mention it again.
Go man go!
Weir all waiting.

Put TV to the side for now. Let's not blame TV. Let's take full responsibility ourselves instead.

So, how is it that YOU have no problem with Biden's unelected handlers making presidential decisions for us?

We all know Biden isn't running the country. We all saw incontrovertible evidence with our own eyes that he has dementia and how he tries to shake hands with imaginary people who are not there.

How is that OK in your book? Do you believe in democracy or don't you?

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....this is almost as fun as fucking.
Do it again.
No. Don't move the goalposts.
Do it again.

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And you still couldn't answer, even after I removed TV from the equation. You moved the goalposts, not I.

You just can't deal with the truth. It's plain to see and is not lost on anyone viewing this thread.

How are you OK with unelected handlers running the country in lieu of Biden the dementia patient?

It's a very straightforward question. Do you not believe in democracy?

We just showed everyone viewing this thread, now and in the future, how the modern left has no principles and could care less about the truth, much less about democracy.

And this, Vguy, is why you guys lost the election.

....we have all seen the light!
You singlehandedly changed minds in less than 48 hours. Good job you.
Wanna beer? Shaken of course.
Not sure who "we" are, but it's a Punisher, so makes sense.
Someone took down because words and feelings hurt.
Put it back up. Otherwise you would prove me correct.

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OK. We've given poor HCSS a sense of purpose, but at the expense of the purpose of this thread. Probably a good idea to quit taking the bait. Maybe they'll find a place where they're welcome. Whatever, just go away. Was kinda amusing for a while (they've sure got a lot of time on their hands), until it became pathetic . . . Onward.

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It was awesome!

You couldn't answer a single question or counter any point I raised.

If it went to a vote, I would probably beat you worse than Trump beat Kamala! Lol

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....however. I'm having a little bit of fun with him.
Exercise in futility? Yes.
Comical? A definite yes.
Need more television. Stat.

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when I say vote, I mean the general population.

Not here. This is like the Berkeley campus and is not representative of America.

That's another big mistake you folks make. You think everyone is a far leftist, indoctrinated college student. They're not. You guys get that confused quite often.

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Why do you guys think you lost the election?

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But I ain't taking the bait.

Last five:

Tommy Bolin - Teaser
Cheap Trick - Live at Budokan
KISS - Alive II
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue (very fucking blue, actually)
Yes - Fragile
\m/

....and I have a lot of reverse Uno cards in my hand.
I'm looking forward to more self embarrassment on someone's part.
Easy pickins.
Aaaand. The line was cast again.

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the most about a Trump presidency. Using his past performance as a guide.

Is it the energy independence?
Low gas prices?
Low unemployment?
No new wars?
Securing the borders?

What is the most scary to you?

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....in a weird sort of way.
You do you.
Time for some live Gizzard. On the dreaded TV.
I wish you the best and come around again y'all. I need some good laughs.
Byeeee.

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You seem very scared of Trump. What is it exactly that bothers you. I'm taking a poll.

Is it the stock market going up?
The way other world leaders respect him?
What.

He dances like a deadhead even. I don't get why you're so negative.

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Sweet

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One killer box set. Winter land 1973, its in my top 3 of box sets. My brother went to 11/11/73.

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I find myself thinking of John Prine - "Blow up your TV, throw away your paper, Go to the country, Plant a little garden, Eat a lot of Peaches, Try and find Jesus on your own". Sage advice is timeless.

Some cool new soul by bands with Thee in the title - Thee Sinseers, Thee Heart Tones, Thee Marloes (soul by way of Indonesia, pretty cool), Thee Sacred Souls. A lot of other cool new soul too, lot's of cool stuff on Daptone Records, Big Crown Records and Colemine Records.

Ghost Funk Orchestra has some cool sounds, good stuff to listen to and wonder why I'm not depressed as I watch a three-decade plus marriage implode around me. I seem to have achieved some sort of accidental equanimity.

Life is full of mysteries. The current mystery confronting me is why a particular bird has been attempting to get through my windows and into my house. For two weeks at least. Every day. Over and over. Fly to the window, try to push through. Sit and stare through the window. Fly to a nearby branch and stare some more. Try another window. Repeat. Over and over. Two weeks straight. Same bird. I'm starting to consider opening the window to let it in just to see what it will do. The cats seem to think it's a good idea to solve the mystery, but I think that they have ulterior motives.

It's strange, but I've noticed that somewhere around 75-80mph whatever music I'm listening to in the car sounds better. The cool thing is that's barely over the speed limit if at all on a lot of MT roads.

I'd suggest everyone watch Network again. That movie is a classic, and freakily prescient. "You have meddled with the primal forces of nature Mr. Beale, and I won't have it!" Great performance by Ned Beatty.

When you complain about billionaires throwing their money into politics, don't forget George Soros, he's been in the game a lot longer than Elon, and unlike Elon he has not advanced space travel by decades for humanity. I mean, holy shit, did you see that rocket come in for a landing and get caught by the giant mechanical arms? To think, for decades, NASA just discarded that stuff. Whatever you think about his politics, he has made giant strides in space travel.

Everyone can take heart that money can't buy an election it appears, because KH spent a cool billion dollars in about 100 days and was unsuccessful, suggesting that money alone is insufficient. We all should have already learned that lesson watching JEB! and his insurmountable war chest go down in flames in 2016 after raising a then insane amount of money and going nowhere in the primary.

Boredom is an odd sort of relaxing, "Oh that magic feeling, Nowhere to go, Nowhere to go..."

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Now we are talking. Brokedown Palace playing from 11/10/73 as I type. Beautiful.

The challenge today would surely be to turn off our computers, not T.V.s. All forms of online communication. It's rock n' roll - and the message is .. ..

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Charlie3

Yes, ‘Spanish Pipedream’ by John Prine is a great song. I do wonder if ICE would deport Jesus if they found him?
I agree tha television has a large impact on people’s thinking but I doubt we’d agree on which channels are pushing the most propaganda.

I have been listening to ‘Television, the drug of the nation’ by The Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprasy’:

“T.V. is the reason why less than ten percent of our
Nation reads books daily
Why most people think Central America
means Kansas
Socialism means unamerican
and Apartheid is a new headache remedy.
Television, the drug of the nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation.”

More than 30 years old and still relevant.

On another topic. The bird that is trying to get through your window can almost certainly see its own reflection and is trying to drive out what it sees as an intruder into its territory. This also happens with side mirrors on cars. Small birds can spend a lot of time in car parks tapping on the side mirrors!

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Morning, rockers! Thank a veteran.............

This is for all of us-----left, center, or right----who buy into their own particular brand of propaganda and misinformation.............

HCS, thanks for the enlightment. I was not aware that DT was going to morph into a mutant hybrid of Abraham Lincoln and Mother Teresa. I eagerly await the transformation......

Our republic has been damaged before, and it will be again, but it will survive...........

When people in positions of trust mislead us - either recklessly, negligently or intentionally - that impacts the republic............

Think.
Resist.
Rock on!!!

Doc
Let's now return to our regularly scheduled musical content, devoid of politics, religion, and sports. Well, maybe not sports, ice hockey seems to be big around here.........

Stop checking for a day and come back to ten pages of "content"? My comment way back was meant as satire, anyone see SNL? They were not worried about free speech... much. Is all the pus out yet? OK, one quick question, how many other presidents suggested shooting bleach during a pandemic? Some great football yesterday, but let's get back to music and our musical heroes. Almost finished McNallys Long Strange Trip. (The Dead avoided politics for a long time). Much enjoyed the song writing references but curiously found nothing about Mississippi Half Step, admittedly is lightweight on lyrics but so much fun. McNally references Jim Rooney, one of our local grandfathers who will be playing this Friday night at a small local venue. Looking forward to Zach Nugent who will be joined by Sunshine Garcia Becker and Cheryl Rucker for an acoustic GD evening, (so no Wolf appearance though he sometimes gets to borrow it). Enjoy your Veterans Day with some music and thanks for your service.

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A long, strange and really good read. If only you could read these books or tell these stories in reverse.. the ending chapters can be a bit depressing and the has such a great start. I guess that's often true with life. I swore I was going to listen to 30 Trips Around the Sun in reverse order, but one close look at 1967 changed all that.

I also liked McNally's "On Highway 61" book. A nice history of where we are and how we got there. Another long, but excellent read.

Yes, I like to read when time arrives regardless of if I watch TV and what channels I choose to watch.

I finally got caught up on at least ripping the glorious GD bounty we have received this year. Getting all the metadata exactly right takes forever.. From one CD to the next the auto created metadata is never exactly perfect. I like all the CD's of a show in the same folder with a song naming convention that is consistent and works. I also like the song descriptions, track number, show name to be organized and consistent. And whoever decided it's a good idea to the word "live" next to each song will never understand this. Probably works for most bands where all you have is one live version and one studio version but not so much with the band beyond description.

Things are exactly perfect now, nothing left to but listen and smile, smile, smile.

Be good folks, be happy not bitter. Be nice and respectful of and to one another. If nothing else, you'll probably live longer and certainly live happier.

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...ain't saying what will be,
it's always been that way
only thing I know for sure,
someone got to pay
easy answers
ain't no easy answers,
is what I got to say

lyrics by hunter / weir

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,,,, but decided against. I have very strong, VERY STRONG opinions, but this is NOT the place.

As my old man taught me at an early age, Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one,,,, and they all stink.

Listen to the music play.

I listened to a bit of Winterland 73 this weekend. I will never forget some of the early comments on dead.net when this was first released, the one that struck was someone complaining about the sound quality. I dismissed that comment and pure heresy, it sounds great and oh man oh man oh man oh my.. the performances.

I was a bit disappointed not to get a message from BillyTheKidd saying "51 years ago I was at Winterland watching my favorite band. A great time was had by all." I was relieved to read his comments - that at least his brother made it. Also disappointing, I had to read through ten pages of meandering tripe to get there, but hey.. I'll take the win. It did actually make my day his standard, polite and friendly reminder that there is nothing like a grateful dead concert, Winterland 73 being no exception. What a great run and as always, I really wish I was there. Thank god for the tapes and a big shoutout to the genius who decided to hit record.

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"OK, one quick question, how many other presidents suggested shooting bleach during a pandemic?"

That's a great question. Thank you for asking. The answer is none, but you also have to remove the word "other" because Trump never suggested that either.

This is a great example of how the media lies and misleads people into repeating those lies, as you just did.

Here is the actual transcript of the briefing in question:

"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?

"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."

Do you think he thought this up himself? Very unlikely. He had multiple scientific advisors presenting possible cures. This particular one involved intubation of the lungs to deliver UV light or some other disinfectant directly to the lungs. But you were told he said to "inject bleach" and you ran with it, and are still repeating the lies you were fed.

This media lie you believe is similar to the lies we were told about Hydroxychloroquine. That's another treatment that his doctors and scientific advisors presented to him. The media and their big pharma controllers went on a full crusade to demonize Hydroxychloroquine. Doctors and pharmacists were threatened with the loss of their licenses if they prescribed or provided it to patients.

The media told us Hydroxychloroquine was a "dangerous" drug. But actually, it's safer than aspirin. You can look it up on the WHO's online database of reported adverse drug reactions (ADR) and compare it to how many ADR reports received on other drugs. The WHOs database is called VigiAccess dot org. While you're there you can check how many ADR reports the Covid-19 vaccine has received as well.

Great question, though, thanks!

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California, preaching on the burning shore
California, I'll be knocking on the golden door
Like an angel standing in a shaft of light
Rising up to paradise, I know I'm gonna shine

My time coming any day, don't worry 'bout me, no
It's gonna be just like they say, them voices tell me so
Seems so long I felt this way, and time sure passin' slow
Still I know I lead the way, they tell me where I go

Don't worry 'bout me
Oh, no, no, don't worry 'bout me, no
And I'm in no hurry
Oh, no, no, no, I know where to go

California, a prophet on the burning shore
California, I'll be knocking on the golden door
Like an angel standing in a shaft of light
Rising up to paradise, I know I'm gonna shine

You've all been asleep, you would not believe me
Them voices tellin' me, "You will soon receive me"
Standin' on the beach, the sea will part before me
(Fire wheel burning in the air)
You will follow me and we will ride to glory
(Way up the middle of the air)

And I'll call down thunder and speak the same
And my work fills the sky with flame
And might and glory gonna be my name
And men gonna light my way

Or something.

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HydroxychloroMightyQuinn myself.

Loved to see this one come through as an encore and was fortunate enough to see this at least a couple of times.

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Billy, you and your brother were at a ton of great shows.

Is your brother on this site?

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My brother is not on the site, but reads it once in awhile. He reminds me of the anniversary dates as I tend to forget them. He seen. Lots of great music over the years from all the greats of Blues, Bluegrass,Country and of course Grateful Dead. He is doing a radio show this Saturday from 6 to 9pm Pacific time on KKUP 91.5. FM . You can get it online, if you cant get it on the radio. Its part of a 3 day Grateful Dead marathon.

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