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  • Oroborous
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    See how this one stands up..
    Curious about the sound stage and recording consistency?

    EDIT: this one mos def moved up a notch from the one previous time I heard it.
    Really sweet show, perhaps most well played consistent of all so far?
    Perhaps same with the mix/audio…definitely cymbals now, and everyone is in their proper soundstage position etc, good sheet Mon!
    Overall, Maybe not some of the previous fireworks but very few lows. Only Ooops, and a small one, I can think of was in the otherwise delightful Dancing! It’s like their coalescing or morphing into a cohesive beast, but one with patience and finesse, and having a fine time doing so!
    Eager to see how the 15 resonates after this one?
    Mañana…

    Overhead mics: yeah, I’m well aware what they are/for, i was trying to imply that “if” she hadn’t used them at some of the shows, then that might explain less prevalent cymbals…or maybe they were used but turned down…
    since the pictures aren’t dated it’s hard to determine. In fact the pic on the last page shows Bob playing an Ibanez Musician Series guitar, which from the pictures I’ve seen (if dated correctly) he used from 5/5/78 until Egypt. So is that picture not from this tour, or did he use it at some point on the tour?
    I’ve seen pics of Jerry trying one out also, but no idea when?

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    4/15 Dap sounds better?

    Rolling into the 15th hot! After second set from the 14th.

    B.E. is all over the place. Funny at times! LIG cooks!!

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    Drum mic's

    Among others they would have a mic over each drummer either hanging or on stands four feet above each drum kit since sound rises from the drums, cymbals.

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    4 11 78

    Finished 10 8 89 and 4 14 78 earlier today

    Scarlet Fire

    GBtGD

  • Oroborous
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    Hmmmm?
    Another quirky good but inconsistent show?
    Definitely a creeper. Starts a bit off (technically and otherwise) but by mid set they start settling in and syncing up. Second set, like much of this tour may not be flawless, but their is some fine playing and highlights!. And I’ll have to find that video cause wondering WTH was up with JG at the end etc? Wow?
    These shows are hard to pin down, interesting run.
    14 mañana…

  • Oroborous
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    True dat

    Absolutely no noise reduction ON THE RECORDING, but that doesn’t mean some kind of processing on the final release, and, it seemed like 4/12 sounded much different, especially in the frequency spectrum we’ve been discussing.
    There are other ways in mastering to treat noise beyond basic noise reduction, like, not your 80s tape deck Dolby…
    I’ve been looking at pics and some don’t seem to have overhead drum mics where others certainly do. But haven’t dug deep so don’t know dates that correspond to pics etc. Just wonder if that was something Betty was messing with as she’s known for her mic placement perhaps above all else…
    Also noticed JG moved into the center, and Bob to the left, (as per their stage orientation at the time) of the soundstage on maybe the 10th? Before that they were switched, and the 12 all kinds of things going on lol,
    Always fun to try and dissect things!

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    Noise redution?

    No where in the notes does it state any noise reduction was used in the reel recording of any of the shows in the box.

    Will be doing the 15th tomorrow!

    Going to have to listen to the 11th again as I thought they were a little out of sync...

  • Oroborous
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    4/12/78

    Previously, Only heard this one once, thought it was good but overshadowed by the 11, 15 and 16th…let’s see after proper sit down if it matches the hype…

    Think 4/11 was tops so far, but 4/6 seemed to stand out too. These shows are sneaky good. Meaning sometimes you have to wait for it. The dynamics are often impressive. Not freight train Dead like you might expect from this period, but often nice subtle build ups/peaks. You can tell their having fun, getting loose and digging the smaller venues.
    Really tasty when their all in sync etc, (sometimes the looseness is a tad much) and 4/11 is a good example of being synced up!
    And DG has been improving nicely as the tour has progressed and has some real moments here.
    That Sunrise is one of the most powerful I’ve heard, and some songs she’s carrying the lead vocals. Meaning on shared vocals, she is often the strongest most consistent, which allows J &B more latitude.
    And the sound is great on all so far, but I too will compare with 37, which I recall is the benchmark of this tour…

    I do understand 4winds “cymbal” comments. Don’t have torrents to compare, but they aren’t prevalently splashing all over so ?…
    It doesn’t seem like an issue to me, and probably wouldn’t notice it if I wasn’t trying to…guessing mastering, probably added some shimmer to the torrents versus some noise reduction, tape restoration, age etc, or, perhaps artifacts from different machines used to record copies from the masters, versus Bettys reel decks and masters…

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    4/14 set 2

    here we go! set 1 was okay! I like where set 2 is going...

    Samson oh yeah!! Lions Den for sure!! Growls...

    Music swinging!!

    The Natives are restless!

    That was fun!

    Love them while you can, for someday they'll be gone.

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    4 11 78

    When i first heard it back in later 80s I was amazed at the post drumz sequence. I didnt know they had done it.

    Nowadays its like "cool"
    Back then it was like "wow!"

    At the moment
    4 14 78 looks Like Rain (never one of my favorites)

    Due to holiday no need to go to work so plenny o' GD

    Yay!

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...tribute to Mr. Lesh today,

march 19 1995 spectrum

well, because I made it to the 2 nights before
and then sold my tickets for 3/19
to take my lady to sunnier & warmer climes...
...I knew right away she was not like other girls...
for a much needed break from work

so imagine my horror upon
returning 6 days later...
...what the...UNBROKEN CHAIN!

well, after 36 yrs of life together
she is still the best in my life...

....once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right...

PEACE!
One World in Harmony...

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Starting with 11/1
Then did 11/7
And now 11/2
Later, 11/8 to compete with the horrible noise…

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Why Not!

and it will begin with

Eric Burdon "The Masters"
The House Of The Rising Sun
I'm Crying
Boom Boom
Gonna Send You Back To Walker
Bring It On Home To Me
We Gotta Get Out Of This Place
It's My Life
Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood
Help Me Girl
Don't Bring Me Down
See See Rider
Inside Looking Out
San Francisco Nights
When I Was Young
Monterrey ("the GD, blew evrybody's mind")
Anything
White Houses
Spill The Wine
The Night

these songs should evoke many different feelings for ALL people today

Make LOVE not war!
PEACE!

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meh?
11/21/69
That’s better…High Time really resonated today.
Next up: 12/4/69.
Cool Dark Star
And finally today: 12/5/69

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Then 12/10/69
Followed by 12/13 short and sweet, and
then 12/19, real treat!

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&12/69 mas Fina!
Received these in a big batch of stuff from our good friend here a couple years ago, but as is often the case with new big batches, these kinda have been neglected!

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That's a great album alright. The other Dead I played over the last day or so was the first show from the Winterland 1973 box - 11/9/73. A great show - every musician on top form and working together. And the next 2 shows in the box are even better.

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...with the hidden track on diP #13, been awhile>>>
scarlet > fire from 11/1/79

then onto 5/6/81 set 2 diP #13

sub pre-order purchased last PM,
-10%'er :)
now, it's hurry-up wait time lol
convinced myself that the
30 / 60 anniversaries will impact
the 4 installments choices
if TPTB don't make it happen,
then oh well,
it'll be the last sub

PEACE for ALL!
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12/20, 21, and 23/69…yowsa!

Now: Gary Burton Duet, then after, Like Minds…

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Good call DaveRock.

Imagine the reels of those shows being Plangentized/Normanized, and pressed onto vinyl.

💀🎶🤤😵‍💫🫠

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Cnkd - I'd buy that box in a shot. It would be great if they did reissue it in that way. If they are reissuing boxes on vinyl, following on from the Fillmore West 1969 shows and those from May 5th-9th 1977, this would be an ideal choice.

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On sirius this morning while I was driving up the coast to get bbq. I was in tears.

Alligator>Cryptical>The Other One>Cryptical> New Potato>Born Cross Eyed>Spanish Jam>Dark Star>China Cat>The Eleven>Caution.

Holy Effing Shite!

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Hit big chunk of 11/9/73 via yer synaptical jumpstart.
Now onto 11/9/79 II
to be followed by 11/8/85, then prolly some mellow jazz…maybe Pat M?
Bit of a personal theme today…

Howdy Brownie! Yass, need to go deep on the primal sooner than later!

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...road feeling...

GOOD with september 13 1993 set 2

just a wonderful evening in the ol' Spectrum
with the GOGD!

One World in Harmony
Peace for All!

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Robert Plant - Band of Joy
Pat Metheny - Offramp
Miles Davis - E.S.P., and Mikes in the Sky
Pat Metheny Charlie Haden - Missouri Sky

and other goodness from the collection:
Robert Plant - Lullaby…and the Ceaseless Roar
Wes Montgomery- Finest Hour
Wynton Marsalis - Standard Time

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...oct 18 1984 at the meadowlands arena

identifier #16171 on the archive
new chas miller
uploaded earlier this year :)

sweet!

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

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Miles - Mikes in the Sky,,,, must be a heavenly recording :-)

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BigBrownie, thanks for reminding me of 1.22.68, long time favorite show and primal. Looking forward to the new Miles boot. Oro, your mention of Pat M took me down a rabbit hole, seen him a bunch, all the way back to days with Lyle. Peak experience minimal but incredible, had a back stage pass after his show at the Kennedy Center in DC the night he was announced as NEA Jazzmaster. The band was exhausted from touring and headed off on an overnight bus to their next gig. New interview just posted, Rick Beato with Mike Stern, Mike had Pat as a teacher at Berklee, played with Miles, introduced by Billy Cobham. Beato is a superb interviewer, gets musicians talking, also check out his interview with Pat.

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Some of hottest GD I have ever heard

WOW

Were you lucky enough to get the Road Trips copy of 5/26/93 back when released?

I missed buying it but my oft referred to friend Craig gave me a copy

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I have all the road trips and bonus discs, I just did not recognize the date. I will revisit this though, it might have been 10 or15 years since I listened to it last. So a great late era PITB. I'm still engaged and will give it a spin.

If I did not have it already, based on your comment I would have hunted it down.

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...gotten past all
of the jabberwocky,
and it's time to get back to
why we are here

Feb 18th 1971 @ the Capitol in Port Chester NY

as I don't have the 50th Anniv
of american beauty, it's the archive
for me today
identifier #157425

smokin'!

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

PS: 12/16/92 - - - > thank you mr. latvala for #27!!!

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10/15/77

Hot 'lil show

Stella Blue is tasty, despite some annoying buzzing from one of the guitars

Stella your face

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...the 70's, but different era

november 9 1979 set 2
at the aud in buffalo

saw a hockey game at that brokedown palace
sabres vs flyers game - back in 1986
even remember hitting Garcia's Irish Pub
before the game
for a few cold ones and wings

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

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Spicy encore

GBtGD

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Since I must push through a repetive set of tasks at work this morning, I needed something primal to take my mind off it, so 3/1/69 seemed called for. This show continues to be my go-to from the FW 69 box. I believe that's because I had this show on tape back in the late 80s and so it's simply burned into my brain. I do a lot of my listening in the car, and I burn CD-R copies for the purpose (so that the originals stay safe back at home). However, this morning I've found that my 3/1 CD-R has sustained some damage that affects The Eleven (aaaah noooo) so I'm going to use this opportunity to just chuck it into the trash and burn 2/28 instead in an attempt to try to get out of this 3/1 rut.

And I mean it's a deep rut - I've had the box set for years but have literally never played 2/27. The shows from 2/28 and 3/2 also get criminally overlooked... bad Obeah, baaad

Meanwhile, this weekend I got stuck into 3/17/68. Ferocious!

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4-15-78 (Edit: the Let It Grow in this is fiery!)
Staying in sequence while trying to finish the Box. One more in the Devil box then I'm going to do DaP 15 from 4-22-78 to round out my April '78 tour. Not full Oro level investigation (love those, keep them coming Pedro) but I'm kinda slow. Then I may get to the Santa Fe release. Ah, the bounty of a cornucopia of fall riches!
Cheers

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No PF couldn’t forget the last one lol, even though I liked the 30 better…

All good things in all good time 1stshow…

Sabs Flyers BITD nice…saw Dave Mason at Garcias on a date with the one that got away and four of her fun girl friends!

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Great stuff

Dark Star is cut though

C'est la vie

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Man, you should give 2/27/69 a chance, I doubt it will disappoint. I know that the Dark Star is on Live Dead, so you have probably heard it a few or more times already, but it really adds to get the transition out of Mountains of the Moon into the Dark Star. My car has a radio with a hard drive, and that show is burned onto it, so I end up listening to it quite a bit. That Good Morning Little School Girl from 2/27/69 just cooks in all the right ways too, probably my favorite version. The Doin' That Rag that follows is also fantastic, I really dig it, I suspect you might as well. Really just an excellent show.

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2001 A Space Odyssey on visual

Cool

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A classic, 10 out of 10.

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...december 29 1977 @ Winterland

hell yes, all day long!

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

Oro - Dave Mason one hard working rock'n roller; got to see him 2x in 1980 (march/august)