Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)
I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net
One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net
In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net
The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.
Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.
Please practice the time-honored tradition of shunning
Do not acknowledge the existence of the troll among us
Isn't that horse dewormer?
Yes, and no.
They also give Penicillin to horses. Does that make it a "horse antibiotic?"
If you had never heard of Penicillin before and the trusted authorities on your TV told you it was a horse antibiotic, that would be intentionally misleading, wouldn't it.
That's exactly what they did with Ivermectin. They told you it was a horse dewormer. Most people had never heard of Ivermectin before and so believed these misleading statements designed to instill fear and derision.
The truth is something very different than what we were told. Ivermectin won its creators a Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 2015 as a medicine for humans.
It is also listed on the WHO's Model List of Essential Medicines that every country should keep in stock.
The WHO describes their Model List of Essential Medicines as such:
"Essential medicines are those that satisfy the priority health care needs of a population. They are selected with due regard to disease prevalence and public health relevance, evidence of efficacy and safety and comparative cost-effectiveness. They are intended to be available in functioning health systems at all times, in appropriate dosage forms, of assured quality and at prices individuals and health systems can afford."
Yet, our FDA and the talking heads on TV convinced most of the population that it was a "horse dewormer" and ridiculed it. Perhaps we should start questioning their motives for misleading the people in such a way.
Waiting For The Worms
Love the Floyd. The meaning behind the lyrics, not a happy place at all.
(Waiting) To cut out the deadwood
(Waiting) To clean up the city
(Waiting) To follow the worms
(Waiting) To put on a black shirt
(Waiting) To weed out the weaklings
(Waiting) To smash in their windows and kick in their doors
(Waiting) For the final solution to strengthen the strain
(Waiting) To follow the worms
(Waiting) To turn on the showers and fire the ovens
(Waiting) For the queers and the coons and the reds and the Jews
(Waiting) To follow the worms
And the worms ate into his brain
Please stop.
Hey. I have an answer to a question that nobody asked....
....what is the fear of long words?
The fear of long words is called Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia. The 36-letter word was first used by the Roman poet Horace in the first century BCE to criticise those writers with an unreasonable penchant for long words. It was American poet Aimee Nezheukumatathil, possibly afraid of their own surname, who coined the term how we know it in 2000.
Now you know! Horace did it on purpose lol.
Yes JIMINMD
That's exactly why I posted that. It ties directly into Pink Floyd. Thanks for your understanding, my friend.
Warfield '80 disc....
....I almost pulled the trigger today at work. But I said to myself. "You might already own this Vince."
Came home and checked. And yes I do. Saturation is a blessing more than a curse though.
I love this corner of the Internet. 99.6% of the time.
Congrats on being part of the .4%.
Dick's Picks v. 3
Just got a notice from Real Gone Records that my vinyl copy of Dicks Picks v. 3 has shipped.
That's harsh, Jim
I thought we were supposed to be kind to one another here. That's ok, though. I understand.
"Please stop, HCS. The truth is too much to bear!"
Maybe you should open your mind just a little bit right now, because the truth is coming in hot in the not too distant future.
What's coming in hot....
....is a couple of Dicks vinyls to my porch in a few days.
Spicy hot. Like the Pizza Tapes extended version.
I prefer my vinyl being shipped during the winter for sure lol.
The Santa Fe West LA is soooo good.
And the Althea ain't no slouch. Then again, when isn't it?
Don't be cute
and I was being kind.
But I understand. A simple misunderstanding. And a worm ate into his brain.
Keep this stuff out of this forum please. It does not belong, and you have pushed this entirely too far.
Back to music...
'The Great Deception' - Van Morrison
Did you ever hear about the great deception
Well the plastic revolutionaries take the money and run
Have you ever been down to love city
Where they rip you off with a smile
And it don't take a gun
Don't it hurt so bad in love city
Don't it make you not want to bother at all
And don't they look so self righteous
When they pin you up against the wall
Did you ever, ever see the people
With the tear drops in their eyes
I just can't stand it, stand it no how
Living in this world of lies
Did you ever hear about the rock and roll singers
Got three or four Cadillacs
Saying power to the people, dance to the music
Wants you to pat him on the back...
Have you ever heard about the so-called hippies
Down on the far side of the tracks
They take the eyeballs straight out of your head
Say son, kid, do you want your eyeballs back
Did you ever see the people
With the tear drops in their eyes
Just can't stand it no how
Living in this world of lies
Don't address this person directly....
....rather, circumvent the comments with hyperbole.
All they want is reaction.
Tis a well known fact on social media.
And tis but a scratch.
As your humble senator, I bring this to the floor.
Got Drugs?
Tell me about the Sunshine Acid!
Not the fucking big pharma bullshit!
Saturation
The second time I picked up Why Can't We Be Friends by War I realized I needed a list to avoid any more duplicate CD purchases. Dig that tune, but I don't need two copies of the album. And, apropos of nothing, now that I'm thinking of War, their track The World is a Ghetto is the stuff. Dig that '70s sound. Spill the Wine smokes too, cool vibe to that song.
That '70s Stuff
That's a pretty big ocean of goodness, the '70s had a lot of juicy goodness. A well represented decade in my music collection.
Cool '70s Sounds
Currently listening to Use Me by Bill Withers from Still Bill. That is a track with a peak funky '70s vibe. Bill makes getting used sound pretty damn good.
Part of my last five....
....includes Earth, Wind and Fire. And it's more than September, which is a great song btw.
So there's that.
The best part, is when I play some of these songs when I'm on a certain musical tangent, old memories become unlocked.
Like '70's and '80's commercials on the toob of you. Guilty as charged. It's on the TV.
With age comes wisdom.
In most cases. Shrug.
Starting Santa Fe's second set. Let's do this.
Hmmm...
I think that tube is where I discovered Dope a few months ago. Dope Lemon that is, dude goofs me out and can't get enough of some of his tunes, some real cool grooves, pretty good videos for a couple of them. Sometimes I like to let just let the tube go and see what the algorithm finds for me.
I hear that Charlie....
....thats how I discovered King Gizz, The Warning and Yo La Tengo.
Television.
And when I discover new music that gets my attention, it gets my attention. And I'll dive in deep whenever the siren calls.
A coworker told me about Dope.
Didn't jump in the pool.
Then.
Anyways. Good discussion today for the most part. Not unexpected I guess.
To the winner goes the spoils.
Crazy times indeed but we will survive.
Will it be new? Yes. Will it be a challenge? Yes. Will it be just a waste of time? Pink Floyd says no.
Time for homemade chili and Santa Fe Drumz.
🍻
Life
Life's a long ass journey, with some fool that wrote the map, everyone's digging for that cross on the page, no one knows where it's at... Dope Lemon knows where it's at. And those chicks with the wild tiger teeth in the Rose Pink Cadillac video just look so cool.
KGLW forced my to buy vinyl despite my intention not to do so, as they stopped making CDs and went just to vinyl. Really couldn't see not getting Ice, Death, Planets, Lungs, Mushrooms and Lava so I had to pick up the vinyl. Worth it though, that album is great, and my turntable that I got in High School in the early '80s still works just fine.
KGLW is better high....
....then again, what music isn't? If you really wanna break it down to the basics.
Facts are facts (sic).
And fact is, Tyson was a monster in the ring. Pure Force. And the monster will not be defeated.
Fishing For Fishies Charlie.
Remastered Vinyl
How about Hampton 89, simply because the mix officially released was not great and the shows were.
The Vinyl
Just upgraded my DP3. Sounds like a good price for DP33 - $20 less than I paid.
I hope for the next Dave's Vinyl they go with DaP5 Pauly Pavilion - Can't get enough 1973...
With the discussion about horns, if you get the chance check out Leonid and Friends. They're a very talented Chicago tribute band that also does a lot of tunes you know from Earth Wind and Fire, Blood Sweat and Tears, etc. Saw them for the first time 2 years ago and last year. Just got tix to see them in the spring.
Going to Melvin Seals JGB tonight. Will be the 3rd time that we'll be taking our daughter! Hoping for a Catfish and a Mission. A Rueben would be icing on the cake...
Hey VGuy, Jim and Sixtus - long time since I've been here - love your energy and positivity!
Warfield
I too had to check collection to make sure I had,,,,,, I did :-)
Had to check on DP 33 also.
I need a list of all my shit so I don't have to keep getting up to check!
Jim, just so you know, I farted in his general direction!
Really, just go away and don't make me call you a stupid, fuckin' asshole. MUSIC is what we discuss here.
DP 3
Was shocked, shocked I tell you, to see a notice from Reel Gone saying "shipped".
You can't see, but I'm smiling :-)
Bird Song from 30 days sound great.
Also, bought a Chicago show that came out a year or two ago, like I needed a Chicago show. But they were hot in their day.
UK delivery nightmare
Has anyone else in the UK not received their copy of DP52?
Tracking for mine shows it was at the Evri delivery hub on 31 October, and that's it... nothing since.
There appears to be no way to speak to a human being at this dreadful company – unless anyone knows different, in which case do tell.
I've just been going round in circles swearing at a chatbot that tells me to contact the sender! Aaagh!
Would love Chicago @ Tanglewood 1970 get the plangent treatment
That concert video on the tube with Chicago at Tanglewood in 1970 is awesome. Terry Kath is on fire, that solo on 25 or 6 to 4 just rips. I vaguely recall they have released it a long time ago. Not sure of the audio quality but would love the modern technology of plangent to clean up the audio. No idea if it was multitrack though there's multiple cameras filming it...
Bob Lopes & Leonid
Checked these guys out. Nice.
if you do a oogle search for Leonid & Friends Best Studio Session Playlist! there is a 2 hour vid of them in studio setting, very nice recording. So far unable to download audio track. Will be working on that.
Also, on DP 3 Vinyl. This is gonna be a good test run. Lets see how fast usps will get it here. Label is created and they're waiting. I assume it will start its way to Dallas over weekend.
In conclusion, thanks Bob for the heads up of Leonid.
UnSucking the Seventies
It's weird, but during the Seventies there was this general feeling that rock had really lost its way, that everything new sucked. The Stones even had compilation called Sucking in the Seventies, acknowledging (and kind of challenging) the accepted wisdom that the '70s sucked. And yet when I look back on it now, it's seems like a goddam golden age. Pick any year at random from the '70s and you'll find at least a half dozen albums that are better than anything released this millennium. Examples:
1973: Dark Side of the Moon, Raw Power, Quadrophenia, Aladdin Sane, Headhunters, Larks Tongues in Aspic, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Wake of the Flood...
Or how about, let's say, 1978: Exodus, Never Mind the Bollocks, Rumors, The Clash, Heroes, Marquee Moon, Aja, My Aim is True, Rocket to Russia ...
Any one year had more great albums than we get per decade these days. And you could see the Stones or the Dead for maybe $4 a ticket.
Saw that Jack White is playing Oakland, got excited, "lined up" (in the digital sense) to buy a couple tickets, only to find that it would cost me over $500 for two seats. WTF? Jack, I love ya, the new record is a gas gas gas, but I can't afford that.
OK, gramps, lighten up.
Listening this morning the "new" Miles in Europe thing. First show of the set is outstanding. Music will see you through.
sucking in the 70s
I don't think they were referring to music; I think they were referring to backstage antics.
they have never been known for being subtle.
Be Here Now
The '70s had some great music for sure, but I have found a ton of stuff from this century that absolutely smokes, all kinds of different funky groovy sounds. Often a little off the beaten path or released on a smaller record label, but it's out there.
......just sharing.....
Greetings All,
Not sure if I am late to the game on this, but I thought it relevant. An excellent film with fantastic acting...."His Three Daughters", but probably most importantly for this group.........really neat Grateful Dead references.
Hope some of you can appreciate and enjoy.
Have a beautiful day.
`70z
As a youngster, born in 1975. It has been a common understanding to me and amongst my peers that the music during that decade & across all genres was fantastically far out. ALL the best bands jammed groovy tunes back in the 1970s.
The only thing, {in hindsight of course} that was sub~par compared to today's standards was the weed!
Cannabis cultivation has come a long way since the '70z, maybe music too? Though I find it a hard case to say now in this day & era that the music of the '70s was overall bad. Aside from some cheezy hyper contrived over produced studio stuff, like the Shawn Cassadys & Leif Erricsons record companies pooped out for easy money in the later decade. For the most part the music of the 1970s is 'Solid Gold' as they come, like the old television shows of the era. Soul Train, Don Kirshner's .......etc.
Like the song "The Music Never Stopped" .... the music NEVER sucked!
Pete Sinfield
RIP Pete Sinfield. An early and essential member of King Crimson. Some great early ‘70’s music.
tell me what you want what you really really want
in terms of Dave's
11/19/72
SOMETHING FROM 67/68/69
9/6/80
2/9/73
2/15/73
a Greek show or two
daily I get reminded of mortality
so c'mon Dave!!! Let's GO!
70’s music
The reason that 70’s music stopped sucking is because 80’s music was so much worse.
Most of my favorite bands started in the 60’s or early 70’s.
Mid-70’s would be Rush and Van Halen (no Van Hagar).
The only modern band I listen to is Hard Working Americans. Awesome band, wish it could have lasted longer.
Speaking of Rush, for those vinyl fans, the Moving Pictures 40 5-LP Box is spectacular.
Be here, and there, now
70s is my favorite decade for rock. Late 50s and the 60s for Jazz. Then there was that Acid Jazz period in the 90s that was interesting, though I wouldn't call it Jazz.
There are some good artists of recent years, but as Charlie said they are mostly small, independent label and not advertised, but they're out there, you just got to poke around.
Check out Satsang 'The Story of You' especially the tune 'I Am.'
Or Uncle Lucius 'And You Are Me' and his song 'Keep The Wolves Away.'
Bob Marley's kids all put out some good stuff. And in that genre I also like Nattali Rize and Blue King Brown. Check out the Nattali Rize song 'One People.'
You might be pleasantly surprised.
21st Century Sounds
To start let me say, I doubt everyone will dig the same things I do, but I dig that chillwave sound of Washed Out, Tame Impala has some awesome stuff, Skinshape, Dope Lemon and Khruangbin all have a real cool chill vibe that works for me. All except Khruangbin are pretty much the projects of single individuals, all pretty much hit the spot for me. Check out the video for Mind Mischief by Tame Impala, but you have to be 18, either because of the cartoon nudity or the lady teacher lighting up with a student in her car, ridiculous either way, but a cool video and that song just lights up my brain in a most pleasurable way.
The Flaming Lips have released a bundh of cool albums this century, and they do put on a cool show.
A ton of modern bands doing a current version of R&B, soul, funk, or cinematic soul like El Michels Affair (check out Sounding Out the City, good place to start), Budos Band (lots of horns there), Menahan Street Band, Les Imprimes, Bobby Oroza, Thee Marloes, Thee Heart Tones, The Sextones, Sharon Jones & the Daptones, Charles Bradley (check out his cool cover of Black Sabbath's Changes), Surprise Chef, Ghost Funk Orchestra and more.
Free Ride is a recent discovery, a little more metal than my usual tastes tend towards, but the track Space Nomad sucked me in and with an album title like Acido y Puto how could I resist picking it up? Metal, stoner, fuzzed out low end rock, works for me in the right mood. Vguy has beat the drum pretty hard for King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard and I will second his endorsement, a really varied catalogue with those guys and some pretty amusing videos. Not to mention that they release a ton of stuff for free - they pretty much explicitly invite you to make your own record company, release the stuff they put out for free and cut them in with whatever you think is cool.
I get the sense that there are not a lot of country fans on here, but for those that might dig it, Sturgill Simpson, Tyler Childers, Red Clay Strays, and Colter Wall have all put out some cool stuff, think more like outlaw country not country-pop. Sturgill's Metamodern Sounds in Country Music is a total psychedelic classic, don't let the country category fool you. Check out Turtles All the Way Down and tell me that is not a psychedelic masterpiece. And once i saw the album cover for Tyler Childers' Country Squire album I had to get it, cool album, great cover art, and the gatefold picture is pretty cool too. Good stuff.
New Tunes
I always dig checking in and maybe getting some cool reference to some band big or small, known or not so know sometimes even better. You never know what might sound right at any time in your experience.
I love Dwight Yoakam and somehow notice the other day he had a new release today so I'm checking it out now. Also sad to say I never had Black Sabbath Dehumanizer, but friend sent a text the other the day with the song 'I' and knew I had to add to collection.
And finally on some movie digs recently ripped Repo Man from 1984 featuring an LA stock punk rock lineup for the soundtrack, and a plot probably too offensive for some squares...hehe. Just kidding. like Phil might say...We're playing this years music folks....Thanks Phil and The Goddamn Grateful Dead
King Gizz....
....Mrs. Vguy is praying it's just a phase (Although, she doesn't ask me to turn down Flight b741).
Probably their most accessible release.
These guys cover a lot of ground genre-wise.
Some Gizz stickers arrived in the mail today. "Don't worry honey! It's just a phase."
I've checked out Tame Impala Charlie. They are good. So are Dogs In A Pile. And no, they are not a GD cover band.