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    Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

     

    I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

    One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

    In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

    The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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  • Oroborous
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    Enjoyed the new “Hunter book”.
    But caveat emptor: this is not his long lost memoir and has nothing directly to do with the GD.
    It’s written by a young Hunter and focuses on only about a year (61-62) before anyone was anyone etc. But it is an interesting look at the burgeoning “scene” and examines perhaps how/why a certain guy named Jerry became who he was.
    Interesting snap shot of history, Hunter, and some schlub named Jerry, (“he’s a bum who’ll never amount to anything”), but not a book about the Grateful Dead, just fyi…

  • daverock
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    Sabbath were a lot more ferocious live in the 70's than their albums indicate. I still have my ticket for the first time I saw them - 3/11/73 - which was recorded for their live album - "Live at Last" I think it was called - but it's best heard in the Volume 4 box set that came out a couple of years ago.
    I remember it vividly - them coming on, a shriek of deafening feedback, Ozzy Osbourne yelling some profanity, and then this almighty racket started up as they went into "Tomorrow's Dream". It was like the gates of hell had swung open. All around was sea of hair flying in all directions and fists raised in the air, some waving peace signs.
    They did feature some improvisation about two thirds the way through - what seemed to me like an overlong guitar solo, before they went into another pulverising riff which was a sign that the mayhem could start again. By the last two songs they were going so fast it sounded more like The Ramones than Cream. I was stunned. Couldn't hear properly for a week afterwards.
    I do like the second side side of the first album listening at home - but live it dragged things down a bit.

    Incidentally, when I rescued my ticket from the random pile I have left, another one that fell out was The Dead at The Rainbow on 3/10/81, which cost £6.00. The Sabbath ticket cost £1.25.

  • 1stshow70878
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    Finally got a label created.
    I ordered in the 1st 4 minutes.
    But some of you have yours already.
    Go figure.
    Pembroke Pines, I was just listening to a show from there.
    Cheers

  • Cousins Of The…
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    New stuff

    Check out the Lemon Twigs, great newer pop/rock band

    Last 5:
    Skeeter Davis - Mary Frances
    12/26/80
    12/27/80
    12/28/80
    12/30/80 All fine Audience recordings. These December shows would make a nice little box.

  • Sixtus_
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    Go Away HCS, Pretty Please?

    ...or if you linger, please only keep your topics to good ole grateful dead.
    That appears to be more than a common sentiment.

    (but, wait....F Your feelings and my right to say whatever I want defies your right not to be bullied!)
    We get it.
    We fully understand the tragedy that All Civility is now lost , and how truly shockingly this is viewed by so many, including yourself, as totally acceptable.
    Pathetic and sad, but we get it.

    You are adept at being a bully and pushing your disinfo agenda that has been cult-branded into your skull.
    Which is really odd, considering you do appear to be able to string sentences together in a relatively coherent fashion occasionally.

    But, we get it. Cult members gunna cult.

    Be Well People!
    Sixtus

  • Mr. Ones
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    "At Your Age"
    "What we always believed"
    "To maintain our worldview"
    "Challenged your perception of reality"
    "The ones who have hidden the truth"

    NO, it's just that us OLD FOLKS remember Adolph Hitler, and do not wish to see that movie again.

    Thanks for "teaching Us"

  • proudfoot
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    Thank you for the Black Sabbath reference RXYS

    Side 2 of 1st album is perfect "prep for work" music for today

  • gratefulgerd
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    Thank you Maine Dave,
    never heard of them. Found a video of them playing at Freak Valley Festival, June 2023, here in Germany.
    Great music, great sound. Fantastic!!!
    Got to get more.
    Cheers, G.

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    Sorry, gotta chime in for Black Sabbath, the Ozzy years for now anyway.
    Sabbath jammed {instrumentally} in the 1970s more than many radio familiar casual fans would know. The Vol.4 & Sabotage albums got much of that extended jam codas in stellar songs, "Wheels of Confusion/Straightener " and "Symptom of the Universe" respectively.
    I was too young to see them live so I can only imagine the performances of them tunes. Really all them early Sabbath albums had little instrumental diddlys. Sabbath Bloddy Sabbath is a classic as well as Paranoid, and the Master of Reality album is the Heavy Metal template of the looming future a decade later.
    A number of years back now I started a deep dive into the last two '70s Sabbath albums, Technical Ecstasy & Never Say Die. I found some real rockin' hidden gems of songs there and also tones of experimental keyboardy 'proggy' stuff on them albums not oft played if ever on the modern radio I tell ya!........
    .....Anyways, back to the Dead. Great autumn 1983 sound and pick for #52, I would be jamming it more but the 30 Days of Dead daze is a doozy this year!

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    Maine Dave - I also like checking out the Bandcamp website. I discovered an independent record label called The Library of the Occult on there earlier this year. From what I have heard, the music they release isn't really metal - I am not sure how you would describe it. The one album I have, by Magnetic Sunshine is full of groovy organ freakouts, backed up by clattering bongos and fuzz guitar. Great fun. I can imagine it being used a soundtrack to an Italian horror film from the 1970's.

    I haven't heard Green Lung. Despite Black Sabbath being one of my 5 a day during the first half of the 70's, I gradually moved away from heavy metal after that. Those first 4 Sabbath albums still sound good to me. I fact, most of the albums I liked back then do. Maybe we always like the music we first heard in out mid-late teens.

    What you referred to as "desert blues" sounds more like my cup of tea now. I'll do some checking out later.

    HCS - cheers. I am heading in the general direction of 11/17/73 - I agree, one of the best Daves Picks. Fall 1973 features some amazing shows. The Playing - UJB - Dew - UJB- Playing jam from 11/10 rang out here last night - and I notice that was also a feature of the Pauley Pavillion show. But before that - 11/11.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

 

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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a little windy in my area

outer places around the rest of western Washington got blasted

some people still not with power

In my day they said "wind storm"

now it's a BOMB CYCLONE!!!

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A rainstorm with a marketing team, I'm thinking.

It's raining here in NorCal. Pretty hard in fact. Like it pretty much always used to do in November, back when we had the old climate. Back before they invented bomb cyclones.

As usual, I agree with Daverock: please oh please oh powers that bes, please issue all the good stuff you possibly can while I'm still alive.

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The big Floyd Box was also broken up into smaller Boxes.
I bought all the small ones for about half the price of the big one, and only missed out on the schwag and a bonus CD.
The movies in the big Box are available individually.

I want the music and generally don’t even look at the other junk that comes in the Box. That drum does me no good and is a waste of space. So Dave/Rhino, scale back the size of the packaging and sell the related schwag separately. If you wore the apron with the axe attached to your belt, and had the mushroom foraging tool in one hand and the drum in the other hand, you would make a great marketing image for the schwag store. But it wouldn’t help me listen to the music.

3-4 mini Boxes per year would be grate. I want new shows arriving every month.
Space isn’t that big of an issue because I keep buying vinyl. I just don’t need the schwag.

That’s a good price for 6-10-73 vinyl. There’s a lot of LP’s in that Box.

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I would really like to see DP 1 reissued in its complete form - along with the 18th. Add one more show from the prior week (recommendations? since it has been a long time since I went beyond the very gooey Cleveland show) and that would be perfect.
Another example I'd love to see - would need maximum Normanization though, as it's Spring '82 - would be the two killer Hartford shows, backstopped by 4/19 Baltimore Civic Center ... And of course, *anything* they can work up from the '68 to '70 range!

Ticket To New Year’s video has Jerry demonstrating the bacon wrapped water chestnut recipe.
I haven’t had those in years. They were a popular item in the 80’s.

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DiP 3 vinyl finally out for delivery.
A week after others but just in time.
RGM is pretty fast all in all.
Have a good weekend.
Cheers

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I like swag as much as the next guy, but agree if you can keep cost down and get more music,,,,well easy choice. Feel the same about video, I almost never watch it.

Now the axe on the other hand......

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Glad your well PF, good up north too. In the old days, us Seattleites didn't call it a "Bomb Cyclone" we just called in November

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Nobody bothers me anymore.

I love the axe, the single best piece of swag they ever sold. I wonder what delinquent dreamed that one up.

Ticket to New Years - Jerry (with a painful grimace on his face after either touching or popping one of the bacon wrapped water chestnuts in his mouth), "careful, it's hot"

As much as possible: Road Trips 6/16 & 6/18 (+ maybe the Omni show?) - all Plangented and Normanized up ... Essential!
Perhaps this next one is more than mini, and of course a bunch of it is out there in pieces, but the whole 2/11 - 2/14/70 should be assembled together (pretty please).
Seconding (third or fourthing?) the many calls for Merriweather Post Pavilion 6/30 & 7/1 85, which were my 3rd and 4th shows + tack Hershey on the front to fill it out.
I also saw two sets of excellent '91 shows (my last 5-6 attended) at Cal Expo - one run with and IIRC one without Bruce. We need more of this era - please.
So, total ditto re: Europe 90 that is being discussed on the other thread. Pick the 3-4 best shows remaining (other than Paris that DL selected for 30 Trips), and I would have to jump on it.
Cheers, All

Strat Wolf, if I'm ever you way I hope I will get a little tasting. Caught all the Merriweather shows, would love a little mini box of some of those.

Now that I think of it, it's a good way to cut loose some of the 80's cassette masters without upsetting the apple cart for those who get a little stir crazy when too many 80's shows flood the Dave's Picks and Box Sets.

Two and three show little mini-boxes outside the subscription, fewer frills and let them go at a little under the 25k target run size. Then keep everything else as it is. Sounds like a win/win to me.

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Winter land 3/18/,19,20/77 or. 4/5&6/69 10/31/69. or 6/27&28/69 10/31/69 the possibilities are endless.

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....but guest sit-ins will probably shoot that prospect down.
Plus.....the love for post Brent Dead has been pretty much ignored.
Giants box gave me a fix though.

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The Alice from Alice's Restaurant. My wine glass will be half full this Thanksgiving in her honor.

And one day they will have to get around to the post Brent era. I realize it's not everyone's favorite, but there are some good shows to be had. Plus it represents 1/6th of their touring years, it doesn't seem right to pretend it didn't happen. Some of the Vegas shows are standouts during this period.

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I think for me the first May '77 box, the July '78 box and the June '76 boxes were all the perfect mix of cool and practical. I don't need the schwag so much. And Vguy if it is a sword that you want, let me give a shout out for a local Missoula, Montana business, Zombie Tools, Accessories for the Apocalypse. No Katana per se, but there is an Apokatana. Pretty much started as a bunch of guys phucking around and now they sell lots of custom sword variations, made in Missoula. I have not personally acquired one, but I think one of my nephews did. Maybe the site can pair up for a custom dead flavored variation to go along with the axe.

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