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    Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

     

    I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

    One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

    In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

    The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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    Hello friends!

    As Mark Twain "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated". You never know. But sure, we will survive! -;)

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    Oh and I should probably also mention

    I like Dave's #52 quite a lot!

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    Haven't posted in a while...

    ...But I feel like talking about, y'know, music.

    Interesting conversation about music (a few pages back) from the 70s as opposed to current day. I was born in 1963, and count me among those who grew up hearing (from my older sibs) that 1970s sucked, all the good bands sold out after Altamont, etc, or were dead like Jimi and Janis. Which maybe had some truth to it for some bands, but not for everybody of course.

    Meanwhile, I think there's a lot of good music out there now... You just gotta poke around. My favorite current band is a 3-piece out of Rochester NY called King Buffalo. Check them out on Bandcamp, they're the real deal imo. My gateway tune from them is "Morning Song," highly recommended. They call themselves "heavy psych," which I think means lots of trippy loopy guitar effects but none of the macho posturing of a lot of guitar bands. They can get noisy.

    Green Lung is a "pagan metal" band out of England (familiar to you, Daverock or Simonrob?) who I enjoy a great deal in a guilty-pleasure kind of way.

    ToYo are from Japan and play an affecting form of psychedelia (yeah, I don't really know what that is either) with Japanese lyrics and odd tunings. It's great. Worth checking their album "Stray Birds From the Far East" on Bandcamp.

    There's a fun site called Doom Charts that lists their top 40 heavy/stoner/sludgy/metal albums each month, as chosen by their worldwide network of listeners/reviewers. Want to find out more about Italian occult doom music? Here you go! There's a lot of unlistenable (to me) stuff here, but a whole lot of fun too. This is the site that turned me on to ToYo, for example. Or a band out of Scotland called The Kundalini Genie, which is sounds like someone built a time machine back to 1966 and came back with a whole bunch of great tunes.

    Bandcamp is a great site to noodle around in general, btw. All kinds of stuff there, much of which you can download for free.

    Amethyst Kiah and Rhiannan Giddens are terrific songwriters with great voices who release music both individually and as part of a quartet called Our Native Daughters, four Black women who play a kind of folk- or traditionally-inflected American acoustic music. Giddens has a song called "At the Purchaser's Option" which is beautiful and heartbreaking. You can find a live version on the Toob. Kiah's gateway song (for me) is called "Black Myself," and it straight out rocks.

    And I haven't even mentioned Tinariwen, who are hands down the greatest band on the planet right now (and for maybe the past 15 years). I think they were mentioned on this board some time ago... Lots of vids on the Toob to check out. Either they grab you or they don't. Me, I find them trance-inducing in the best possible way. And there's a whole array of "desert blues" outfits that plow some similar territory (Bombino, Tamikrest, Les Filles de Illighadad, etc).

    Oh and a couple more recs: Michael Kiwanuka and Leon Bridges. If you are open to hip-hop, then Run the Jewels are worth a listen, as is Killer Mike's solo album "Michael." Check out the video for RTJ's "Down."

    Okay I'll stop. I only intended to list a couple of recommendations, but before you know it... Yeah. Anyway, thanks for putting up with my meanderings.

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    Truthfully no one Seahawk QB ever ran like Russ, either for yardage or escapability. {Zorn was the next best, but only on his feet} Hell, for the most part Russ best and longest yardage runs came off broken plays. Though he wasn't too shabby with designed rushing plays either.
    Geno has never struck me as a lateral mover, usually he don't escape the pass rush or he does but then makes an errant throw. I must say though, as a forward runner Geno ain't too bad at all & deceptively fast! Those quick improvisational decisions to just break forward and sprint out the pocket were the difference in that game.
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    to the whole Pauley Pavillion show. So great, every tune. I forgot how great it was, to be honest. They are definitely in the zone. The mix is also superb.

    Strongly recommended.

    Actually, forget I recommended it. That might turn you off to it.

    Pretend your friend recommended it, and just go listen. Whatever it takes. It is that good. Wow.

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    Sake! Drink!

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    My Russian handler told me, "Mention the Pauley Pavillion show, Comrade. Even in Russia it is famous! They can't argue with that."

    Thanks, Boris!

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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

 

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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(As the inimitable Firesign Theatre has pointed out):
"We're all bozos on this bus."

Rock on Doc! You're the best, brother! Onward.

…from us all to Mr&Mrs Doc!
Strength in numbers!

And Gobble,gobble, gobble to the rest of ya turkeys ; )
Buurrpp, opps, scusey : )

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Now tthhaatt, is something to be thankful for!
Rest up bro, I’m sure you still have a long road ahead.
Good thing you have lots of GOGD and love to see you through!
Be Well amigo!

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Sending love and positive vibes to Doc and the Mrs.

May the light bring her Home and carry you, Doc, onward and upward!

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anybody confirm if 31 days of december will be up this year. Anyone poke around to find?

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Yes, look at 30 days post minutes ago.
Cheers
(Edit: Ed is doing it again - 31 days of dead on instagram)

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Is anyone else having difficulty opening the COMMENTS SECTION tab in DaP 2025 Subscription page?

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I'm not having trouble opening the COMMENTS SECTION tab in DaP 2025 Subscription page, rather it just doesn't work and cannot be opened. No "page not found" message or something similar, just nuthin'.

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The ‘early bird’ comments page still works, it’s only the full price version that’s missing!

Edit: You have to use the drop down menu because the front page link to early bird ordering doesn’t work anymore.

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VGUY72
The IMPREC kickstarter looks like it’s got over the target so you should be getting the album. I’ll stick to the CD I bought a long time ago.

Edit
There are still a few hours to go if anyone else feels like contributing.

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I don't know what IMPREC kickstarter is, but I would get this if it came out on vinyl.

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I can't believe y'all. . . Look what you made me do! Where's Dennis's wife's credit card when you need it?

So now its my turn to tempt anybody that's still on the fence (only 5 hours until the kickstarter ends):

kickstarter
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The kickstarter is a way that the record label IMPREC are using to raise $40000 to repress Greyfolded on vinyl. Since they have hit that target the repress should happen. There are still a few hours left to take part in the pre-order process. Try typing greyfolded kickstarter into your choice of search engine and you should find it. It’s likely that once they do commit to the repress they will accept further orders on the IMPREC website. Their website is always worth a look since they produce a lot of interesting stuff. The release may also turn up on other sites but they don’t always.

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....I knew I was at the right place.
Just recieved Susanna Hoffs (of The Bangles) - The Lost Record in the mail today. Crushes die hard, what can I say? Spinning now.

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Thanks Colin. I've never come across this sort of thing before. I've ticked my support for the release, so I think I've ordered a copy, should it be come out. Looks very attractive.
I got a Black Friday release delivered earlier today - a vinyl release of Tangerine Dream live in Glasgow 11/20/74.

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Now that's a CD I havent heard in long time

Next road trip

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Now that's a CD I havent heard in long time

Next road trip

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PMs back at you.
Cheers

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....the kickstarter was successful!
Thanks for the assistance.
Cool shit.
Then they link other projects that are in the works.
Cool.
I find happiness where I can find it.

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I have been subscribing for a few years now and I think I recall that the 2nd quarterly release {#54 with bonus disc} announcements come with the December online newsletter. That will be the second week in December? If I'm wrong someone will correct my statement.

Anyways,.... I used that nationwide corporate holiday discount on one of them Earth Day shirts I had been eyeing on for awhile now, since April. My only complaint is that the one I bought should've been a desert sage green to go with the Joshua Tree.

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My, admittedly faulty, memory says that the second release is announced just before the subscription window closes. Probably in December.
Speaking of faulty memory I recently bought a deck to play my very old vinyl. It was either that or give it away. I dug out a Sarah Ogun Gunning album expecting it to have a version of ‘I am a Union Woman’ on it. If I did bet I’d have thought it was a sure thing. Of course, it didn’t. It did have ‘ I hate the Capitalist System’ though. Searching my memory I realised the track I expected was on a Ewan MaColl and Peggy Seeger album but the years have created false equivalences.

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I'm guessing a 69 with a Dark Star Suite, the bonus being a cobbled together portion of a neighboring show.

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Howdy, anyone know where the download links are posted on Instagram for 31 Days? Peace!

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That makes sense. After the Early Bird special ends, but while you can still order the subscription.

Otherwise, why announce it if not to entice subscriptions. So sometime in the next few weeks.

I have a good feeling about 54. '69 would be fine, but I'm hoping '73. I guess we'll see.

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Rudy Van Gelder is to Jazz what Betty Cantor-Jackson is to The Grateful Dead.

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Just a trippy title is all no more there, I have no insider information here, just speculations. Though by my calculations there is a strong possibility that for 2025 we may see both a release from 1969 & 1973. If not `69 then maybe autumn '70? That era I am still hazy on but think one is coming from there either way. Banana Box Boogie on New Speedways!

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Any info on what the next Daves Vinyl will be.. ? (fingers crossed for vol. 8..)

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If the "whispers on the breeze" thing is meant to be an actual clue, the only song I can think of that it could be a reference to is Broken Arrow. Which according to the Internet was first played by the GD on 2.23.93 at the Oakland Coliseum in a show that featured Ornette Coleman on four songs. I would think Ornette's presence complicates the legalities involved, but I suppose if Dave was determined to break into the Vince era, he could do worse than to put that one out.

I'd sure rather have some '69, or '73. But it's not up to me, now is it?

In any case, the second title in each year's subscription series usually gets announced shortly after the 'early bird' discount expires. So pretty, pretty soon.

Last five!

Flaming Lips: Clouds Taste Metallic
Jefferson Airplane: Volunteers
GOGD: Reckoning
Karajan/BPO: Mahler 9
Joe Henderson: Power to the People

I bet the Coleman estate would have no problem authorizing Dave & Co. to release the 93 show he sat in on. It would give them a little scratch (not much), but more importantly would broaden his legacy and expose more people to his music.

Of course, nobody knows for sure but the stakeholders of each group.

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10/31/70 plus filler.. The tapes are in the vault and they sound great!

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54, is that how many inches of snow fell in Buffalo OB?

Congrats on the big win.

Two to three weeks to go until announcement.

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Shows played in Buffalo:

03/17/70- Kleinhans Music Hall - Buffalo, NY
03/31/73- War Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY
09/26/73- War Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY
05/09/77- War Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY
01/20/79- Shea's Theater - Buffalo, NY
11/09/79- War Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY
09/26/81- War Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY
07/04/86- Rich Stadium - Buffalo, NY

The 77 show has been released. This can only mean the soundboard for 1/20/79 has turned up and we are finally going to get one of the 79 Dark Stars cleaned up and Normanized.

That would be something...

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You guys are funny ; )
That would be something…but we only whisper about such things very late at night…

77, 89, and p/o 11/1/79 are out.
wish they’d done all of 11/1.

Don’t forget Rich 90, 92 & 93.

Wouldn’t Kleinhans be something!!! The holy grail?
3/31/73, 7/16/90, and mos def 9/26/81 are worthy!
9/26/73 is ok, but not the “horn” show I’d pick.

Fun game though, unless your a niners fan. Its been unfortunately a frustrating year for them!
Almost makes me miss it back in the tundra…not really lol,
but I used to live 3-4 miles from the stadium BITD.
VIKS are fun too, but I don’t think my heart could take it if I wasn’t once removed lol
They fortunately usually pull it off, but it can be hard to watch lol

Edit: or Hell, I’d even take 1/10/79 and a good chunk of set 2 from 1/20/79 on a for disc, if it got it out, but alas, don’t think I’ll ever get any 1/20 : (

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10-31-91
Filler and bonus disc 11-3-91.

Of course, there’s a lot of guests between those two shows that would have to agree to the release:
Ken (I suspect that he would agree)
Gary
Popper
Young
Fogerty
Baez

Getting all those legalities worked out would probably be harder than getting the ABB stakeholders to agree to a release.
But that did finally happen with 6-10-73.
So, an alternate 54 + bonus disc is 7-27,28-73. HendrixFreak is due.

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I have really enjoyed this release. Had heard about Santa Fe 83 for long time but never listened to them. Great show. The Althea and He’s Gone are two highlights for me. I love a He’s Gone with an outro jam. The filler is also killer on this. Really nice !
I was very happy with my subscription this year. Last years shows didn’t do it as well for me. I really enjoyed the Frost 85 set. Another show I had never heard. Lots of highlights there. Love a good Crazy Fingers.
The DP series has been really heavy on 77 and 71 but I enjoyed those shows this year also. I liked this years 77 shows. Lots of great music there. Listening recently to the 71 release and I really enjoy the third disc from Pittsburgh. Solid year. Thank you Dave and Company!
I subscribed at early bird for next year. I’m stoked on the 76 release - first Dave’s from Ohio ?? So many great shows there…
I hope others here are correct. I would love a 69 release for the second show this year. My wish would be two dark stars and one love light and not the other way around. LOL
Hope you all are well. Keep the faith. Music heals. Turn it up!

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I also enjoyed this year's selections - including disc 2 of Scranton and Especially disc 3 from Pittsburgh + the Frost shows and Santa Fe ... I'm subscribed again so as not to miss the bonus disc in this 'special' year. Yes, hoping for some '69 or, with luck, some late '70 goodness! Bring it, Dave!!! (Please and Thank you)

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2/17/79, fantastic show, tapes are in the vault.

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....is also vaulted.
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Maybe that would be more boxish. It that a word?? Is now!

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....regarding sales. So many sales. So many roads, to feed my card.
Choose wisely.
If you do your homework, there are some smokin' Deals out there.
That elusive Buffalo Symphony show would definitely be one, because i would pay.

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79 you say? I'm in.

Yes, OB, those Vikes don't make it easy but somehow are 10-2.

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12/1
Bonus 11/30
#54

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Still wading through 1978 here. Speaking of which, 4/14/78 is, to my ears, the most enjoyable show in the box since the first one. I don't know if it's a case of absence making the heart grow fonder, but everything on the first cd sounds top notch. The show the others were leading towards perhaps. Maybe it's just me.

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to thank all the people who made all november downloads possible. Great tunes once again, day 18 in Pembroke among my favorite jam with day 30 austin72; a pleasure to meet all my november friends, Esau, Sugaree, Peter , Cassidy, Althea to name a few. Glad to see you enjoy the Santa Fe show.

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We've been waiting WAY too long for this one. I declare that show to have the best all-time Sugaree and He's Gone. In the mid 90's my cassette got stuck in my girlfriend's car for like 6 months, drove her insane

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Too bad they can't cancel that '76 show for 53 and replace it with ALL of 12 6 73. My apologies go out to all the 1976 fans.

Road Trips from 2011 includes about 77 minutes of that December 73 show, including the massive 43-minute Dark Star.
But that entire show needs a space on the shelf.

Maybe that's what they're planning for 54 with bonus material.

A big 'who knows' shrug comin' at ya. More likely: not gonna happen.

Plus, we all know 1969 and 1970 are glowing in some kiln ready to be fully fired!

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