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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net
One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net
In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net
The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.
Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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October 20, 2024 - 10:34am

#1001

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1969. Shows,, official release please

4/5 & 6/69 Avalon Ballroom, 6/27 & 28/69. Santa Rosa, 10/31/69 San Jose State. All these shows would make for fantastic releases.
October 20, 2024 - 10:20am

#1002

daverock

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1969 shows

The impression I get is that the shows from the first half of the year were much hotter than the ones that followed. Understandably, so - they were perfecting a well worn repertoire and approach in the first 6 months. After that they introduced more country based songs, and to my ears, it took a while to do this successfully. The jams seemed a little less impressive too, as the year progressed. I have never been that keen on 11/8/69, Dicks 16, for example - even though it's often hailed as a classic. I'm sure there are great shows across the year - but less so, perhaps, as it progressed.
Pity that all the Daves Picks from 1969 have been from the end of the year. It would be great if something from Jan -May could be released.
October 20, 2024 - 10:15am

#1003

Vguy72

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Don't apologize Jeff....

....hope you and the wife has a great time!
Mailed my ballot yesterday. We are not going back dammit! Especially with Project 2025 on the table. Scary shit my friends.
October 20, 2024 - 9:40am

#1004

cactus68

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Passing on cassette

I've been passing on most Daves picks. I don't want a cassette remaster.

Time to redo dicks picks with Plangent Process, remaster and remix.
October 20, 2024 - 9:19am

#1005

LedDed

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Vguy,

Love the Vote icon!

I myself voted early and dropped off my ballot this morning here in CO.

Remember, wise man say, "Get out and vote, - removes stubborn orange stains!"

\m/
October 20, 2024 - 7:01am

#1006

JeffSmith

Joined:
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Cover Art Backlog

For those of you waiting for some good scans of the FOTDs box, I am sorry I am taking so long. . . Got back from Europe this past Monday only to have to drive a day later 8 hours each way to a funeral. Got back yesterday, and have out-of-town company coming Monday. Whew. One of these days. . .

In the meantime I'll check with our ace-up-the-sleeve, Coperdomebodhi to see if he has anything to share. Onward.

PS: Haven't had time to reflect, but I'm pretty sure we had an amazing time in Athens and Rome, even if we missed David Gilmore by a week. . .
October 20, 2024 - 5:17am

#1007

billy the kiddd

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10/31/70

Will make for a great release one day!
October 20, 2024 - 3:37am

#1008

Forensicdoceleven

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In heaven, all the interesting people are missing......

In regard to 1970...................

Beginning in the Summer and continuing through the Fall and into early Winter, big chunks of 1970 are "missing", probably because they were never originally recorded. There are a few exceptions, most of which are worthy of release some day......

One of the more significant missing pieces is the September Fillmore East run, which was recorded clandestinely by the FE crew. It appears that a lot of those reels went MIA over the years..........

The FW runs of February and April are missing some important parts, maybe they'll be returned some day. Almost the complete June run is there, but I would not recommend those for a box set----portions are kind of rough, although what is there is generally very good............

Many early 1970 shows were recorded and are worth releasing eventually. I would really like to see Corvallis released some day-----really good show.

There are a lot of missing shows from the early years, 1966-1968, which were probably just not recorded or broadcast live on the radio. It appears that they started recording more consistantly in 1969, although frankly, some of those haven't held up too well.........

There are some "missing gaps" from later years, January 1979 comes to mind, as well as some individual "missing shows"----Detroit 10/30/72, with the mind boggle Truckin' comes to mind................

Time for more coffee, dogs, grocery shopping...............

Rock on,

Doc
When you were riding on the crest of a wave, you were most likely to be missing out on something......
October 20, 2024 - 1:42am

#1009

Danehead

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70..

Little 1970 in the vault.. yet the booklet to Daves 51, claims (page13)"This period of 1970 was the only gap in the Deads archive".. is this true.. ? BW from Copenhagen
October 20, 2024 - 12:19am

#1010

Obeah

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TY HF + Doc re '68. '70. Fall '72. Diamonds and Rust.

Yes, I'm vying for worst subject line ever. I'd have done better to follow Dennis' lead and just title it "things". But Mercy and Goodness and Sweetness and Light, you good people gave me a lot to think about!

Thanks Doc and HF for filling me in on those '68 developments. I know there are some vectors like Dead Legs and Dead Air that seem to regularly surface new stuff - or new sources for existing stuff. Not sure who all is part of GEMS but they seem to do heroic work, too. But I tend to run behind the curve, so I appreciate this intel.

@HF I do share your wish the PTB would be a bit more... sensitive? attuned?... to the passage of time. As you said the '70 selections in the vault are pretty sparse. But all the more reason to work on what is there and get it released. If I could rub the lamp and get the genie to grant me influence with the archivist, I'd push for a 'sea change' in the way Lemieux et al approach the box set for the 60th anniversary year. Viz. I'd like to see them curate the entire vault contents for 1970 (or perhaps 1967 and/or 1968 - I pass over 1969 just because I feel it's well-represented already and the need is less pressing) and if a given date doesn't meet the necessary benchmarks to allow it to emerge as a traditional Dave's release (for ex. Vols 19 and 30), then Mockingbird Master what's there, and release it piecemeal. In this way one could build up a historic box... and the sparse nature of the vault's inventory for '70 should make this doable... if they could do 80 CDs for 30 Trips, there's no reason they couldn't do that again for this project.

This would be one of the most important and foundational archival releases that could ever happen, and it seems only right for it to get out while the remaining participants from that era are still on this side of the ground.

More realistically: it would not surprise me at all to see Fall '72 get amalgamated into a box.

The Diamonds and Rust connection with Judas Priest was quite deliberate... I think their producer suggested it to them as a way for them to get radio play in the United States. Somewhere there's an interview with Halford that goes into more detail. I think it says a lot about the band that they didn't dismiss it out of hand and instead really went for it. The whole thing is fascinating on many levels, not least because their cover of the song is quite good. And that's not just my opinion; Baez herself has praised it effusively.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

And then there's . . .

(As the inimitable Firesign Theatre has pointed out):
"We're all bozos on this bus."

Rock on Doc! You're the best, brother! Onward.

The power of love…

…from us all to Mr&Mrs Doc!
Strength in numbers!

And Gobble,gobble, gobble to the rest of ya turkeys ; )
Buurrpp, opps, scusey : )

PT is still with us!

Now tthhaatt, is something to be thankful for!
Rest up bro, I’m sure you still have a long road ahead.
Good thing you have lots of GOGD and love to see you through!
Be Well amigo!

Out on the road today

I saw a dancing turtles sticker on an Audi

A little voice inside my head said

"Cool"

Doc and Mrs. Doc

Sending love and positive vibes to Doc and the Mrs.

May the light bring her Home and carry you, Doc, onward and upward!

31 days

anybody confirm if 31 days of december will be up this year. Anyone poke around to find?

Dennis

Yes, look at 30 days post minutes ago.
Cheers
(Edit: Ed is doing it again - 31 days of dead on instagram)

Comment Section

Is anyone else having difficulty opening the COMMENTS SECTION tab in DaP 2025 Subscription page?

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I'm not having trouble opening the COMMENTS SECTION tab in DaP 2025 Subscription page, rather it just doesn't work and cannot be opened. No "page not found" message or something similar, just nuthin'.

Pulled the trigger for King Diamond tomorrow night....

....you can take the person out of the metal, but you can't take the metal out of the person.

2025 Subscription Comments

The ‘early bird’ comments page still works, it’s only the full price version that’s missing!

Edit: You have to use the drop down menu because the front page link to early bird ordering doesn’t work anymore.

Greyfolded

VGUY72
The IMPREC kickstarter looks like it’s got over the target so you should be getting the album. I’ll stick to the CD I bought a long time ago.

Edit
There are still a few hours to go if anyone else feels like contributing.

Greyfolded

I don't know what IMPREC kickstarter is, but I would get this if it came out on vinyl.

Grayfolded indeed.

I can't believe y'all. . . Look what you made me do! Where's Dennis's wife's credit card when you need it?

So now its my turn to tempt anybody that's still on the fence (only 5 hours until the kickstarter ends):

kickstarter
*dot*
com/projects/imprec/grayfolded-3lp-the-grateful-dead-and-john-oswald

Dave Rock

The kickstarter is a way that the record label IMPREC are using to raise $40000 to repress Greyfolded on vinyl. Since they have hit that target the repress should happen. There are still a few hours left to take part in the pre-order process. Try typing greyfolded kickstarter into your choice of search engine and you should find it. It’s likely that once they do commit to the repress they will accept further orders on the IMPREC website. Their website is always worth a look since they produce a lot of interesting stuff. The release may also turn up on other sites but they don’t always.

Gaining traction....

....I knew I was at the right place.
Just recieved Susanna Hoffs (of The Bangles) - The Lost Record in the mail today. Crushes die hard, what can I say? Spinning now.

Greyfolded

Thanks Colin. I've never come across this sort of thing before. I've ticked my support for the release, so I think I've ordered a copy, should it be come out. Looks very attractive.
I got a Black Friday release delivered earlier today - a vinyl release of Tangerine Dream live in Glasgow 11/20/74.

Greyfolded

Now that's a CD I havent heard in long time

Next road trip

Greyfolded

Now that's a CD I havent heard in long time

Next road trip

You could almost think

That you're postin' double

Doc

PMs back at you.
Cheers

"You're all set"....

....the kickstarter was successful!
Thanks for the assistance.
Cool shit.
Then they link other projects that are in the works.
Cool.
I find happiness where I can find it.

How's everyone doing?

What's new in Dead land, and beyond?

When do we find out what the next Dave's Picks is going to be?

Announcements

I have been subscribing for a few years now and I think I recall that the 2nd quarterly release {#54 with bonus disc} announcements come with the December online newsletter. That will be the second week in December? If I'm wrong someone will correct my statement.

Anyways,.... I used that nationwide corporate holiday discount on one of them Earth Day shirts I had been eyeing on for awhile now, since April. My only complaint is that the one I bought should've been a desert sage green to go with the Joshua Tree.

#54 Announcement

My, admittedly faulty, memory says that the second release is announced just before the subscription window closes. Probably in December.
Speaking of faulty memory I recently bought a deck to play my very old vinyl. It was either that or give it away. I dug out a Sarah Ogun Gunning album expecting it to have a version of ‘I am a Union Woman’ on it. If I did bet I’d have thought it was a sure thing. Of course, it didn’t. It did have ‘ I hate the Capitalist System’ though. Searching my memory I realised the track I expected was on a Ewan MaColl and Peggy Seeger album but the years have created false equivalences.

54

I'm guessing a 69 with a Dark Star Suite, the bonus being a cobbled together portion of a neighboring show.

31 Days?

Howdy, anyone know where the download links are posted on Instagram for 31 Days? Peace!

Thanks All

That makes sense. After the Early Bird special ends, but while you can still order the subscription.

Otherwise, why announce it if not to entice subscriptions. So sometime in the next few weeks.

I have a good feeling about 54. '69 would be fine, but I'm hoping '73. I guess we'll see.

Jazz Tonight

Rudy Van Gelder is to Jazz what Betty Cantor-Jackson is to The Grateful Dead.

Whispers on the Breeze

Just a trippy title is all no more there, I have no insider information here, just speculations. Though by my calculations there is a strong possibility that for 2025 we may see both a release from 1969 & 1973. If not `69 then maybe autumn '70? That era I am still hazy on but think one is coming from there either way. Banana Box Boogie on New Speedways!

Vinyl..

Any info on what the next Daves Vinyl will be.. ? (fingers crossed for vol. 8..)

Who else is gonna bring you a broken arrow

If the "whispers on the breeze" thing is meant to be an actual clue, the only song I can think of that it could be a reference to is Broken Arrow. Which according to the Internet was first played by the GD on 2.23.93 at the Oakland Coliseum in a show that featured Ornette Coleman on four songs. I would think Ornette's presence complicates the legalities involved, but I suppose if Dave was determined to break into the Vince era, he could do worse than to put that one out.

I'd sure rather have some '69, or '73. But it's not up to me, now is it?

In any case, the second title in each year's subscription series usually gets announced shortly after the 'early bird' discount expires. So pretty, pretty soon.

Last five!

Flaming Lips: Clouds Taste Metallic
Jefferson Airplane: Volunteers
GOGD: Reckoning
Karajan/BPO: Mahler 9
Joe Henderson: Power to the People

Re: Ornette

I bet the Coleman estate would have no problem authorizing Dave & Co. to release the 93 show he sat in on. It would give them a little scratch (not much), but more importantly would broaden his legacy and expose more people to his music.

Of course, nobody knows for sure but the stakeholders of each group.

#54.

10/31/70 plus filler.. The tapes are in the vault and they sound great!

#54

54, is that how many inches of snow fell in Buffalo OB?

Congrats on the big win.

Two to three weeks to go until announcement.

54" in Buffalo

Shows played in Buffalo:

03/17/70- Kleinhans Music Hall - Buffalo, NY
03/31/73- War Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY
09/26/73- War Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY
05/09/77- War Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY
01/20/79- Shea's Theater - Buffalo, NY
11/09/79- War Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY
09/26/81- War Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY
07/04/86- Rich Stadium - Buffalo, NY

The 77 show has been released. This can only mean the soundboard for 1/20/79 has turned up and we are finally going to get one of the 79 Dark Stars cleaned up and Normanized.

That would be something...

HA!

You guys are funny ; )
That would be something…but we only whisper about such things very late at night…

77, 89, and p/o 11/1/79 are out.
wish they’d done all of 11/1.

Don’t forget Rich 90, 92 & 93.

Wouldn’t Kleinhans be something!!! The holy grail?
3/31/73, 7/16/90, and mos def 9/26/81 are worthy!
9/26/73 is ok, but not the “horn” show I’d pick.

Fun game though, unless your a niners fan. Its been unfortunately a frustrating year for them!
Almost makes me miss it back in the tundra…not really lol,
but I used to live 3-4 miles from the stadium BITD.
VIKS are fun too, but I don’t think my heart could take it if I wasn’t once removed lol
They fortunately usually pull it off, but it can be hard to watch lol

Edit: or Hell, I’d even take 1/10/79 and a good chunk of set 2 from 1/20/79 on a for disc, if it got it out, but alas, don’t think I’ll ever get any 1/20 : (

54, untouched era

10-31-91
Filler and bonus disc 11-3-91.

Of course, there’s a lot of guests between those two shows that would have to agree to the release:
Ken (I suspect that he would agree)
Gary
Popper
Young
Fogerty
Baez

Getting all those legalities worked out would probably be harder than getting the ABB stakeholders to agree to a release.
But that did finally happen with 6-10-73.
So, an alternate 54 + bonus disc is 7-27,28-73. HendrixFreak is due.

Great 80s picks this year !

I have really enjoyed this release. Had heard about Santa Fe 83 for long time but never listened to them. Great show. The Althea and He’s Gone are two highlights for me. I love a He’s Gone with an outro jam. The filler is also killer on this. Really nice !
I was very happy with my subscription this year. Last years shows didn’t do it as well for me. I really enjoyed the Frost 85 set. Another show I had never heard. Lots of highlights there. Love a good Crazy Fingers.
The DP series has been really heavy on 77 and 71 but I enjoyed those shows this year also. I liked this years 77 shows. Lots of great music there. Listening recently to the 71 release and I really enjoy the third disc from Pittsburgh. Solid year. Thank you Dave and Company!
I subscribed at early bird for next year. I’m stoked on the 76 release - first Dave’s from Ohio ?? So many great shows there…
I hope others here are correct. I would love a 69 release for the second show this year. My wish would be two dark stars and one love light and not the other way around. LOL
Hope you all are well. Keep the faith. Music heals. Turn it up!

Ditto on your post, Estimated Prof

I also enjoyed this year's selections - including disc 2 of Scranton and Especially disc 3 from Pittsburgh + the Frost shows and Santa Fe ... I'm subscribed again so as not to miss the bonus disc in this 'special' year. Yes, hoping for some '69 or, with luck, some late '70 goodness! Bring it, Dave!!! (Please and Thank you)

#54

2/17/79, fantastic show, tapes are in the vault.

The Ark....

....is also vaulted.
🍻
Maybe that would be more boxish. It that a word?? Is now!

2 17 79

Please

There is thin ice out there....

....regarding sales. So many sales. So many roads, to feed my card.
Choose wisely.
If you do your homework, there are some smokin' Deals out there.
That elusive Buffalo Symphony show would definitely be one, because i would pay.

79

79 you say? I'm in.

Yes, OB, those Vikes don't make it easy but somehow are 10-2.

'79

12/1
Bonus 11/30
#54

Hang on..

Still wading through 1978 here. Speaking of which, 4/14/78 is, to my ears, the most enjoyable show in the box since the first one. I don't know if it's a case of absence making the heart grow fonder, but everything on the first cd sounds top notch. The show the others were leading towards perhaps. Maybe it's just me.

a bit late

to thank all the people who made all november downloads possible. Great tunes once again, day 18 in Pembroke among my favorite jam with day 30 austin72; a pleasure to meet all my november friends, Esau, Sugaree, Peter , Cassidy, Althea to name a few. Glad to see you enjoy the Santa Fe show.

Wissinon 12/1/79

We've been waiting WAY too long for this one. I declare that show to have the best all-time Sugaree and He's Gone. In the mid 90's my cassette got stuck in my girlfriend's car for like 6 months, drove her insane

1973 or 1969 or 1970

Too bad they can't cancel that '76 show for 53 and replace it with ALL of 12 6 73. My apologies go out to all the 1976 fans.

Road Trips from 2011 includes about 77 minutes of that December 73 show, including the massive 43-minute Dark Star.
But that entire show needs a space on the shelf.

Maybe that's what they're planning for 54 with bonus material.

A big 'who knows' shrug comin' at ya. More likely: not gonna happen.

Plus, we all know 1969 and 1970 are glowing in some kiln ready to be fully fired!

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