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Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.
Thanks Zep
I see how to do it now by hitting the FORUMS link on the top left. I guess I like the older sorting method better.
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Is anyone else experiencing this ...
I noticed that the threads are not corresponding to the topic. For example: When you respond to
the "1984 SBD's vol.2" topic, it shows up on the
"Go Ahead" vine thread. Another example:
When You click on the "1977 Lossless vine pt.2"
vine and start reading through a few pages, it
turnes out it is the signup list for one of the
1973 vines.
Thoughts?
Peace,
Chris
fascinating.
perhaps let's hold off on exciting vineyard adventures for a bit.
Vineyard Wormholes
Excellent term Andy! You just summed up mywhole post in two words! :o)
problems
Besides those already noted, please add (1) that once we are in a vineyard thread, we can no longer just click on the vineyard link at the top of the screen (note that on this topic that link is no longer here) to get back to the vineyard, but instead have to backclick or go back to forums and start over; and (2) in the "shows & lyrics" section on the left hand of the screen, if you search by date, which used to display links with each year, now just goes straight to the first shows ('65) and you have to somehow go from there. All in all, I think the changes have made the site much less user-friendly and much less sophisticated. I assume this is just temporary and things will get better. Anyone else agree?
problems
Besides those already noted, please add (1) that once we are in a vineyard thread, we can no longer just click on the vineyard link at the top of the screen (note that on this topic that link is no longer here) to get back to the vineyard, but instead have to backclick or go back to forums and start over; and (2) in the "shows & lyrics" section on the left hand of the screen, if you search by date, which used to display links with each year, now just goes straight to the first shows ('65) and you have to somehow go from there. All in all, I think the changes have made the site much less user-friendly and much less sophisticated. I assume this is just temporary and things will get better. Anyone else agree?
Yep, I agree dstache
I miss that vineyard link too. My muscle memory keeps taking my cursor to where that used to be. I hadn't looked at the Shows by Year in a while, but man that's completely whack! Has the font changed on the posts and topic headings, too? Lettering seems thin, and the topic headings seem too close to each other - kinda eye-straining. Hate to turn this into a b*tch fest, but it just seems like needless tweaking to a site that was just fine before. Kinda like a "downgrade" to a more primitive and, as you say, less user-friendly version of the site.
Yep, I agree dstache
I miss that vineyard link too. My muscle memory keeps taking my cursor to where that used to be. I hadn't looked at the Shows by Year in a while, but man that's completely whack! Has the font changed on the posts and topic headings, too? Lettering seems thin, and the topic headings seem too close to each other - kinda eye-straining. Hate to turn this into a b*tch fest, but it just seems like needless tweaking to a site that was just fine before. Kinda like a "downgrade" to a more primitive and, as you say, less user-friendly version of the site.
Problems
I kinda like the big picture of Marye. ;o)
Not to bitch, but ...
another thing I noticed was you used to be able
to have the web site notify you via Email
when you have new private messages (which I
think is a GREAT feature for active vinyard folks),
but I can't seem to find how to set that up now.
This is a great feature for all Viners to set this up.
It's a good way to keep communication open with
seed-holders who have gone astray.
JMHO,
Chris
Where is everyone?
Have the technical problems chased everyone away?Seems like no one is on much anymore, and the mailbox has
been very lonely. :o(
I have a very cool new vine I want to start, but I'm not
even sure where to where to post it?
... or if it would even make the rounds
(my bi-centennial vine kinda fizzled out) :o(
Peace,
Chris
Hi bro!!
I'm here. Ripping a little slower than norml due to the new job, but I'm around. I have an 83 vine ready to start too. Just waiting for things to get rollin again. I see Deadnoise is busy. Awesome!! Welcome brother. Also, i have the 1995 vine and June 74 still and will go out Monday. Got confirmation from both ecb and ripple74 they are still down for the cause. Dropped the ball on the june 74 vine but it'll go out Monday. Working 12 hour days right now. Sleepy when I get home. Hope everyone is doing good. jSFC- how were the Red Rocks shows?
Peace, Andy
updated the vine
http://www.dead.net/forum/bi-centennial-grateful-dead-vine
but it seems to be outside the vineyard at the moment
sent Mary a PM
with the link
it is crossed up with a Tapers section from May
as for the pic
I am not sure why we are getting big pics. Also that pic is very old. But hey...it's nice to see my dear Rex again.
Hello fellow viners
Sorry for my tardiness. A lot has been going on lately and I keep saying I will get vines I am holding on the move. By this Fri EVERYTHING I have is goin in the mail:
http://www.dead.net/forum/lopezzs-little-bit-everything-vine
http://www.dead.net/forum/live-nirvana-vine
http://www.dead.net/forum/cap-center-88-vine
Nov 70 Vine (not yet posted)
and if I get anythin new in I will update and send those out too.
Again I sincerely apologize for those of you who have been waiting for these.
-Jake
I am still around...but I am
I am still around...but I am on another "project" and pre-occupied with that...but I'll be checking in once a day
folks, with regard to the fact
that things are a bit haywire in the Vineyard right now, with posts not going where they oughta, and such, the techs are aware of the problem and it's all, as it were, connected and being addressed. So for the moment I am sitting tight rather than messing with anything, but please be aware that yes, we do know about it and are dealing with it. Thanks!
also with regard to the fact
that considerable numbers of vines have simply vanished, hey, that too.
Okay...
To make a long story short:
A good deal of restoration work has gone on behind the scenes, with the result that a lot of vanished vines seem to have un-vanished and, for instance, Blair's Nicky Hopkins blog post is now about Nicky Hopkins again instead of a vine. This is all good.
However, since we're dealing with hundreds of vines and the main people who know what's up with them at this point is the viners themselves:
IF, AT THIS POINT, YOU ARE TRYING TO POST TO A VINE AND GET MISDIRECTED, OR TRYING TO FIND A VINE AND FIND THAT IT HAS VANISHED, **POST HERE**. DO NOT SEND ME A PM BECAUSE IT WILL GET LOST IN THE CHAOS. IF YOU POST IT HERE WE'LL HAVE A MUCH BETTER CHANCE OF TRACKING IT DOWN AND RESTORING ORDER.
THANK YOU.
missing vine
mary,my 1969 Lossless Part 5 Vine is still missing
Thanks,
Jake
this is the link...
i found in the back pgs of the vineyard:http://www.dead.net/forum/1969-lossless-part-5-vine
missing ABB vine and other stuff
I was looking for a 'Jazz & Blues for Allah' vine that I posted an update to recently but can't find it. I did take a look at an Allman Brothers vine that was I interested in and noticed that the postings it has are mostly for the 'Jazz & Blues for Allah' vine.... including my update.Here is the link for the ABB vine,
http://dead.net/forum/allman-bros-band-1986-1996-1dvd-flac-vine
I also sent a few PMs out but got no response. I don't know if anyone got them or just haven't had a chance to respond.
just to second...
t140v77
the PMs are not working...
and the two vines he mentioned are crossed up
'Jazz & Blues for Allah vine' posts are under the
allman-bros-band-1986-1996-1dvd-flac-vine thread
as well as this topic does not show up in the vineyard link
there are two others (from 2009 mistakenly) pinned there instead
the PMs are ostensibly fixed now.
So the abb vine needs to be restored?
rant
This thread doesn't show up in the vineyard, but it does show up as the "next topic" if you go to the reseed thread. Very weird. Plus, many threads have the wrong main post. It seems like things have been messed up here for what, a couple of months at least? I'm pretty patient but it is getting to be a little too much. Maybe it is time for me to move on, I don't know. It needs to be said that it seems that the powers-that-be are quietly shutting this section of the site down, slowly but surely, not coming out and saying they are doing it, but making it so annoying and difficult to navigage and use that people will just decide to leave on their own.
Maybe I am burned out a bit too. I'm a little over halfway through the Europe 72 and, while all but a couple of shows so far are Very Good (and more than a couple are Great), the rah-rah every show is at least excellent stuff (doesn't Blair write that somewhere?) just irks me. Listen to the Sugarees from the tour. They are boring as heck without any Jerry solos. The notes to 5/11 say that Dick, whose opinion I usually agree with, said that it was his favorite Europe 72 show. About halfway through the 1st set I was wondering if I was insane as the band was very flat. Yeah, it picks up for the second set, but even the Dark Star wasn't as good as it should have been. There was one really nice jam that went on for a bit, but I could just feel that JErry wasn't throwing himself 100% into it, but instead wanted to go back to space/noodling. I know, it's the whole journey/destination argument, but I feel so much more satisfied when a great jam results.
Anyways, the point of the above was that I spent $450 on a box set and there is this real attitude here that that was not enough. If I am a real deadhead, I need to spend another $100 on a subscription for limited issue shows, only one of which they are willing to tell me. And then all the heads clamoring for 80's and 90's shows, Christ! Not to mention '76! The last Road Trips, which I am not purchasing, is a middling show in a middling year. 5 officially released 76 shows was more than enough, now we get another, and people are clamoring for more. I certainly don't want to pay $25 for a show I won't listen to more than 2x. Damn, I'm just rambling but I am fed up with it. I know you can't please everyone all the time. Heck, half the people want compilations and half of us don't. Half of us want only classic shows or at least shows from classic periods (hidden gems, shows where the circulated version has less than stellar sound) while the other half wants every period equally represented or at least well-represented. And the powers-that-be try their best, and we have to show our loyalty for the band we love by buying everything that comes out, no matter whether we like it or not, and no matter whether they tell us what it is or not. Ugh!
On the other hand, Mary hooked me up with tix to the Taxi Tour shows and that was so kind. And there are a lot of great people here. And I really think the powers-that-be are trying hard. I just don't like this limited issue, subscription only, early bird gets the worm thing. And $450 is definitely not going to be a yearly thing for me. It is pretty ridiculous that I paid that for recorded music for one band for one year.
I'm with you dstache!
Good to hear your point of view. Now I don't feel like such an outlier to the "norm". Europe72 single-handly destroyed this place whether you had problems with your order or not.
vineyard link...
Hi there,
I was wondering when this topic and others, in particular
www.dead.net/forum/dead-beta-vine
and
www.dead.net/forum/jazz-blues-allah-vine
will get linked to the Vineyard? I would like to be able to get to these topics without having to enter the URL for them.
Is there someplace I should report problems or submit requests like this?
Mike
all's well
The China > Rider from 5/13/72 reminded me why I love the Dead so much :)
I just need to remember that if they want to release shows or, God forbid (hehe), compilations, I get to save a few bucks and not buy them. And if I can ever gather the willpower to refrain from reading the comments re: the releases and on other threads here, I will really be doing ok.
Maybe these realizations are the result of a couple of bits of bad news I received today: (1) one of my cats, Gretta, 13 yrs of age, is apparently blind. How the heck did that happen and how am I just finding out about it now?!?!? She lost some weight and we took her in today and that's the diagnosis from the vet. She seems normal other than the weightloss. Her routine hasn't changed. She's very active and gets around fine. It's crazy! (2) More importantly, my Dad, who has suffered from MS most of his adult life, and almost all of mine, is in serious trouble again. He has been in and out of the hospital with various infections and complications for the past 9 months now. As some of you may recall, I received a call from my grandmother last winter that things were looking bleak so I went back to Michigan and visited with him. Things turned out not to be as bleak as she said, but they certainly haven't gotten too good either. My uncle called today and said that the doctor told him that my father was dying a slow death, from the infections and the progressiveness of MS. My Dad's 62, which is pretty old for someone who has MS since their mid-to-late-20's. I'm flying out to see him tomorrow. It feels good to write this. I know I carry the best wishes from everyone here and I appreciate it.
Hang in there, dstache....
Best wishes to you and your family....
Attention Fellow Viners
I have said on this site before a couple of times that I will be taking time off from here and this time I'm sticking to it. A big thanks goes out to Trevor, Derek, Mark, Rick, Bob, RMB, CB, and all of the viners that were on here when I started that aren't with us now. Sorry if I forgot any names. Without these guys this place wouldn't be the same. I hope you all enjoy this very free trading community and most importantly, keep the music moving.
Derek, sorry to hear about your dad. Hope all goes well. Best wishes to you and your entire family.
Take care fellow heads and my friends,
Jake