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    Of our... Wenonah Italian Market/ Deli/ ResturantFinally after 4 years of Bullshit with zoning boards, we have built and will open this Tuesday. We have the finest ( deadhead) chef Scott Lewis who will make me FAT! LOL! His cooking is the BEST!! So if your in the neighborhood stop by... Wenonah Italian Market 2 West Mantua Ave. Wenonah,NJ 08090 Peace,Gigi All good things in all good time
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    what a great story. It must be so great for your daughter to be able to talk to people!
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    What a wonderful gift. Your daughter sounds like a beautiful child in all her wonderment. Must be a special joy to see her be able to express herself. I'm sure you are as proud of her as we all are of you for what you have done. What a wonderful world, with people like you and your family making it shine.
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    Wow ,, that is very inspiring and oh so nice to see .. sounds like you have a lot of chating to do .. so happy you can comunicate with your little girl ... wow very cool !!! sunshine & peace for all !!
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    Our little girl recently received a grant for a special speech device to help her communicate. It is a laptop sort of machine with touch icons that can be made into sentences that will speak in a childs voice. It is lightweight and drop-down-the-stairs durable but drop-your-jaw expensive coming in at close to 10k. We are so inspired and excited at the depth and range this machine offers. We appreciate the work everyone at the hospital and school have done to get this grant for Haley and the opportunity brings for her. We have a very cool network of people. We already had one other girl but wanted another child. We wanted a brother or sister and as '01 approached thought it would be cool to have a baby in 2001 like 2001 A Space Odyssey. Haley didn't show up until '02. That was alright cuz' she was well worth waiting for. When she came to us, we were thrilled and elated. Mama had come down with the Lyme disease mid-term. She got pretty sick and as you might imagine and we were very worried. Haley was born seemingly healthy and happy though and her eyes had beautiful sparkles. We thought she was just a quiet baby because she made very few sounds until well after 1 year. She would crawl over to the family photo albums and point at different pictures of people and activities. Her coordination was a bit off and she was a little bit different...she could hear an airplane, motorcycle or a train long before anyone noticed the sound. Sirens were out of the question. The catch all label of "delayed" was all they could come up with as the guru's at the top of the specialist chain said she was probably a 1 in 20 like her in the world. Just a special unique condition but a very amazing sweet smiling girl. Soon after that, our journey to speech began. They call it apraxia of speech. We have worked hard and so has Haley with her SLP's the last few years and we just had a great 6 year birthday party for her. We have met many wonderful Speech Language Pathologists, teachers, other parents of "delayed" and autistic children and have been working with sign, gestures, pictures and interpretation. The theory is that the wiring is just not quite connected but through ongoing therapy and different forms of communication including musical instrments, computers , books and the "Talker", we will get there and she will eventually speak. Haley was able to have the opportunity to use one of two "Talker's" sent to the big city Children's Hospital as loaner grants in lieu of obtaining funding from insurance. They felt that Haley has a good chance of learning how to use it and having it help her connect the wires so she will eventually speak. We will hopefully get a permanent "Talker" once our insurance company approves her case. It looks good...we have letters from Dr.'s, specialists, SLP's, teachers, all in for review and we are very hopeful. I wish I could tell you how it feels to hear her say "My name is Haley, I am six years old and I have two cats and a fish." "What is your name?" "Let's play!" even though it is a voice that comes out of a machine...it's coming tfrom her. It is amazing and she is smiling as she now starts to be able to tell her story. This little girl is the most amazing person I have ever met. She is full of life and amazing spirit that fills the room with creative wonder, expression and laughter. Now, her voice is coming through the "Talker" and we have a lot of thigs to talk about. I can hear her voice... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Walk into splintered sunlight Inch your way through dead dreams to another land" Robert Hunter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Ray, a drop of golden sun"
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    7 strikes in a row and haven't bowled in years!!! Yeah!!! haha =) =) =)
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    to the Stumans and Ken!
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    stuman and mrs. stuman, and many more! happy belated 13th birthday to nick and happy 50th birthday to ken... Strike another match, go start anew And it's all over now, Baby Blue.
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    Stu and his bride on your grate run, and to the birthday boys in gratefulmom's life! Much happiness and good health to you all. The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
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Three bonuses in a row ("incentive awards") in my paycheck. Adds up to being a 4th paycheck, really. New cubicle office, too - with a hard wall and windows that open,and no batshit crazy woman next to me, wishing me dead. At my day job, I'm a fucking rockstar! (there. had to make sure I got a Fuck in there)
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come blow your own horn!
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I am moving from Germany to Spain to be in charge of day to day operations for a game manufacturer. My professional talks with the owner have escalated from his thinking "I can afford to help out my broke and unemployed friend, and can use her skills somehow" to "Damn! I need her" and now he is thinking in completely different directions for growing his company since we've talked together in Sevilla in early June. I am totally proud to be taken so seriously in this industry that is so overwhelmingly dominated by men.
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I have been an environmental activist since I was about 14 -1970. At that time I was involved in a recycling group. In the late 70’s and early 80’s I was involved in the anti-nuke movement taking part in demonstrations, marches and educational activities about the dangers of nuclear plants and nuclear proliferation. In the late 80’s my activities turned more towards habitat and wildlife issues. In 1989 I formed Tallgrass Prairie Earth First! We brought in almost 30 speakers and events to Iowa City about environmental issues. At the same time we stopped illegal grazing in public lands in the city, curtailed some cutting of urban trees, stopped the destruction of habitat for a rare orchid in a county park, stopped spraying of pesticides on several prairie remnants on public and private lands. In the early 90’s I moved to the Northwest and became more involved in forest issues. I helped stop the logging in several Roadless Areas (over 5,000 acres, keeping them intact). I was a core person in stopping the Bureau of Land Management trade away a 600 acre area containing some amazing large old-growth. I helped form and lead several environmental book groups; been involved in or helped organize hundreds of rallies, demonstrations, press conferences and marches on environmental, peace and social justice issues. Also support for Civil Disobedience actions. Most exciting event ever was involvement in stopping WTO in Seattle in 1999 (it was not a riot, many peaceful people; media slanted it to highlight violence as always). Current involvement in Sierra Club in wilderness, forest and wildlife issues. Those are the highlights –much more. Impeach Bush. Peace now. Hello FBI people. Subvert the dominant paradigm. Oh and I am a Registered Nurse working in a nonprofit mental health agency. Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.) Walt Whitman-Song of Myself
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I just moved to Virginia to start college as an art and english major!!Ann!ka
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....I'm impressed as well. Keep up the good work, everyone. The Dude Abides!
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Normally, in my line of work, I'm cranking out stuff all the time, whether it's about dog-and-baby classes or energy-efficient windows. Hey, I've got a lot of different clients. (Thank God...)

But this week while all this, uh, merriment was going on in various quarters, I wrote two articles as different as night and day, and I'm insanely proud of them both.

#1, definitely coming from my nicer side, is a piece I did for the Rex Foundation's site about Project Avary, which is one of the groups Rex supports. I've always kinda been a fan so I was tickled to get a chance to work on this one. Check it out because I'm proud of it, or check it out because they're wonderful folks, but check it out! (The Avarys have a topic in the Forums under Dead-Related Charities also.)

#2, coming from my fire-breathing side, is my latest pets column on KGO's web site, which is, in essence, a plea for the judge in the Vick case to stop listening to the idiots who say there's nothing to do with Vick's victims but kill them, and to instead require Vick to fund their lifelong loving care as part of his sentence. I'm very grateful for my radio station boss who a) loves dogs as much as I do and indeed adopted one of my fosters and b)lets me write outspoken columns on stuff where it matters. So, you want fire-breathing, read here.

Yup, the two sides of marye's writing career in this crazy week....

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This week will be year three of having hopefully beaten bone cancer. I look at life in a whole new way!!!!!!!!!
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happy anniversary and many more!
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wonderful news, fred! congratulations! many more years of health for you! caroline
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...my ugly divorce was finalized...the cubs are #1 in their division ...i bought a house and furniture ...school started again so i get to read beowulf with another 135 fascinated seniors ...i have traveled to see more friends and family than i have in the last 10 years ... i'm healthier, happier, more relaxed than ever! plus, i get to listen to the dead at my leisure! peace love kindness and good health to you all! caroline
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izzie said:Posted: August 24, 2007 - 7:29am Who's next? come blow your own horn! ____________________________________________ blow my own what??!!! if that was possible, I'd never leave the house. check this shit out: WorldPerks® Account Summary Name: Mr CC Joe Account Number: Account Status: 01Mar2007-29Feb2008 Gold Elite 2007 Elite Qualifying Miles 15,436 2007 Elite Qualifying Segments 6 Lifetime and Year-to-Date Balances Total Banked Miles 73,460 Current Locked Miles 0 Current Available Miles 73,460 Total Mileage Since Enrollment 773,460 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out that total miles since enrollment! and this is only NorthWorst, I am also frequent with thai Air, United, JAL, etc. etc. but seriously folks, one reason I travel so much is to do fundraising and charity work, trying to balance the books - so to speak, in the world. Taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor. Part of our international Robin Hood project that has about 100 hard core members, and about 200 part time members. All things considered, we probably bring in about 200 - 250,000 USD $ every year into impovrished areas and to poverty stricken people in South East Asia, South America, East Europe, Africa, the cariibean, etc. etc. it is not just giving cash away, but rather trying to help people learn to work for a living, to instill work ethics, providing practical help or tools, essentially helping them out on a grass roots level. Since this is mainly done by individuals directly with individuals, (rather than through a big giant oraganization) we do not have so many administrative costs -- this means MOST of the money we raise goes directly to 'people who really need help' This ain't no welfare shit, you gotta work for the money. but providing people with the opportunity to work that they will actually get paid for - that is the key. Then, the fact that the people who get help HAVE to share it with others in their local villages... so they will not "keep reaching out their hand", but rather they will become the providers for others themselves. this is the grateful philosophy of life, to try to keep everyone's cup "full so that it may be again... " this, for me, is in part to keep that grate karma score in the sky even, since I hustle mooks and suckers at pool... but the only people I hustle can afford to lose the money. ( -: by the by, if you think YOU need money, ask yourself if you have ever gone to bed hungry because you had no food and no money, no way to grow food or earn money? then, ask yourself if you have ever gone to bed hungry because you and no one in your village had no food and no money, no way to grow food or earn money most of your life? that is the level of poverty stricken people I am talking about. love and peace.
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fuck! another damn typo!! that should be: loVe and peace at the end... can one of the mods edit that, please? then delete this post, please?
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I tried, and then the editing tools stripped all the linefeeds from your post, and the result wasn't pretty. I am conferring with the tech wizards as to how this problem might be avoided. Meanwhile, we know what you mean, and please say more about your group sometime. Does it have a name?
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is that how you wanted it to look? and dude, if I can blow *my* own horn, I have no doubt you can blow yours.
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It was late, it was a long day/week, and I took one look at that munged text, backed out and ran screaming from the keyboard.
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Finally got around to reading Jack Kerouac's "On the Road". I took my time and road along with Dean and Sal through the summer. There is just so much going on that a few pages would wear me out. Needed to pace myself with that crowd. I had a great time being a passenger on some outrageous cross-country trips. Met lots of cool people and stopped at some great places along the way. That was my bonus to myself for making it to 50 a couple weeks ago. Next up is Vonnegut's "Timequake". But I'm in no hurry now. "Where does the time go?"
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and if handy..."tap the tambourine". "The sun was screaming, "Hey you!".
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Hal R, you're so awesome......just saw your post from Aug, so I'm a little late. You blew your horn, impressed the heck out of me then left me laughing. You remind me of Coyote a little bit......... "There is at least one fine and admirable quality in every person. Find it."
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Well, on October 12, i went on my first boat trip with my wonderful soulmate boyfriend. i caught 2 mahi and 2 wahoo! it was soooo cool! I think i got a my first job since having my daughter and moving away from my old job in a garden center that i loved in sept 2006. it's just the garden center at target. i hate the idea of working for a big corporation, but i have to learn florida plant life before i can move on to the big dogs. i'm going to volunteer at the everglades park in my freetime, to help with knowledge and experience for the mitigation company we hope to star next year. Also, if anyone knows about what types of permits, etc we need to run a mitigation company (um, forgive my lack of a better way to explain, but it's when you go into a residential or businuess property and 'fix' their mistakes of pulling out too many native plants & trees- or helping them to landscape a property w/out breaking the law by removing too much.). so, if anyone knows anthing about this, my bf is much more educated on the matter, but not sure yet about permits & requirements, etc, so i was gonna start doing some research while i'm still 'in-between' jobs. my 3rd boat i'm gonna float is that on november 1st, my baby girl will be 15 months! She was born August 1st, 2006 (i didn't even try, she just happened to come out that day!). i love her with all my heart, and i am damn proud that she's so smart and so very beautiful! happy un-birthday, samantha! Congrats to everyone for doing so many great things! peace & whatnots
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SAW BOOBY AND RAT DOG SAT. IN ALBANY,SAW PHIL AND FRIENDS TUESDAY IN NYC,DANCED MY ASS OFF, BOTH OF THEM ARE ROCKIN IT, THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD BE BETER IS IF THEY GOT IT TOGETHER AND ALL PLAYED AS ONE BAND......BRING BACK THE GRATEFUL DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ONE WAY OR ANOTHER THIS DARKNESS GOT TO GIVE. JINGLE - FEW GOOD MEN MC - NEW YORK
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good morning all my sisters & brothers, i hope u all get a few minutes this memorial weekend to remember those other sisters & brothers of ours who have perished or were maimed while in harms way. although we may disagree with the reasons of war these souls have paid the ultimate sacrifice and deserve>no demand our respect..."may the music rock their souls" stay safe and feel good!
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It has taken me thirty-four years, but I finally decided to go to college. I can't say that I am going back, because I have never attending before. I earned my GED, but that was as far as I got. Time waits for no one, and soon to turn almost fifty-one, I figured it was the right time. The next two years have me getting back to the basics on english and math (algebra.. what's that all about,) and what ever else is required. I better ask my seventeen and fourteen year old daughters about that math subject. Anyway, I am excited. My brain still functions, and I am commited to making it work. The goal is to get a degree (not sure on what yet) and go for a Masters. My dad is not here, (sniffle sniffle,) but he would be so very proud of me.Looking back, I wish that I had gone to school, but the education I got of having the boys following me around the good ol' USA and a few places in Europe, for twenty plus years was well worth it. I wouldn't really change a thing. Who were the Grateful Dead, and why did the keep following me all those years. Later Doug
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That is really, really wonderful Doug!! You SHOULD be very proud of yourself!!!!Couldn't agree with you more that life itself is an education, if you let it be, and that "book learning" can also be important. ********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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Had posted here, congratulating DougK, but seems to be missing. Test!********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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My grateful hubby Ken bought me a beautiful diamond ring for Christmas and our 20th year together!! I love him so much, what a grate surprise!!! Peace all!!
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I dont sound my own horn too much but I am going to. I became a single parent of three teenagers in April of '06. I have really no support except myself. My kids were afraid that i would send them away. Instead, I paid for the funeral of my ex--their mother--and then promptly resigned from a high paying union position in order to spend more time at home. I now work the assembly line, which sucks, and earn less then before. However, my kids' grades have gone up and they now are preparing for college. I have three rules in my house: 1. Must get good grades 2. No cops 3. Everyone hates Norte Dame--I'm a Michigan man. Everyting else is open for discussion. I encourage my kids to speak their mind and I include them in decisions that effect them. My family does not agree with my methods but my folks sure didn't write the book on parenting. I may not like how my kids express theirselves, but my method works. So that is my song. As unconvential as I am my kids are becoming fine people.
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I have no opinion as to the football, but the rest sounds good to me. Your kids are lucky to have you.
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Thanks a lot, I do appreicate the compliment. Tghe luck is actually all mine, I could not ask for better kids. Heck, I could not ask for better people whio just happen to be my kids. In fact, I'm waiting on my daughter to go to the store with her. She is having some friends over for NYE and because she is who she is and her friends are who they are--I am stepping out tonight for the first NYE in a few years. As I say the luck is all mine.
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My wife, Rita Hurault, and I have a joint photo show called "Water Textures" at the Nomad Cafe in Oakland CA all this month (January 2008). We got a "Don't miss" in today's San Francisco Chronicle 96 Hours magazine. One of Rita's photos is included (click on the thumbnail to enlarge), and it looks great! Here's a link to all the images on flickr - but you really need to see 'em printed up real nice on the wall! BTW, the photos were printed by Barry Toranto at WIGT in Mill Valley CA, and mounted by Shawn Conte at Dimitroff's Custom Framing in Tiburon CA. GD Hour blog Station list
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Nice work there Sak. Been a S/D since 1993. Good relations with x. I have 2 teenage daughters 16 and 18. 16 yr old in USA Futures, ( Pre US Olympic Program for Field Hockey) She is also a honors student. Her top honor however occured this fall when she went to meet her friends and found one of them passed out. She called hers sister and her B/F and they got her to hospital before serious damage. We had talked about these kind of situations when they were younger. Oh, and both of my daughters followed your rule. They would not answer any questions about location of gathering. Told them to be concerned about their friend and not police. Her parents were very grateful to my girl. Oh and my 18 year old is in the NHS, a Peer Leader and Varsity athlete. My friends say I need a paternity test because they couldn't possibly be mine!!!
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and heatwarming to hear how cool teenagers can be, for once, Cub42 and Sak. My own kids are gettng closer to that every year-so really appreciate reading how others get along!!!!!!!! Am less worried about my daughter, who was born a wise old woman in a tiny body, but my son has his struggles with moods and self-assurance already. As this IS the bragging thread, will tell a short story about what I meant about my daughter. Both kids were in a tiny grade school in a small German village. Grades 1-4 had only 80 kids total, so everyone knew everybody. My son picked his next school in another town, where none of his friends were going. Was also a gigantic school, with 6 5th grade classes of over 30 kids a piece. As starting date grew near, my son got nerveous and shy. Is normal. I was trying to explain to him that sure he would find friends as "he is a cool guy" and stuff like that. Didn't work. My daughter overheard one of these conversations-looked at her brother with her big green eyes, and said "But Callan, so many kids is just great! You have more chances to find someone you REALLY like, instead of having to play with whoever is around, like in Hüttenfeld" Is my girl- simple and to the heart of the matter. Her one comment worked to console her brother, while all of my efforts did NOT. Or another one, just recently. She got the best grade in the class on her English test (no wonder, as she was raised bilingual). One of her "friends" was envious and calling her bad names. Then a few days later, this girl started to say "Eeew, go away, you are gross, your fingernails are dirty." and wouldn't play with my daughter anymore. Imena's comment to me was "I don't think is about my fingernails, Mama, I think is about the test." then she said "I like to get good grades for ME, and don't care what the others say. Is their problem" She is 10 btw.********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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Yesterday after a long walk with the dog I let him off the lead for the last ¼ mile home. Moments later he rousts out a deer from the bushes and takes off after it through the woods, ignoring my shouts and whistles. The next two hours I spend clambering around the woods, up and down slopes and rock faces trying to find him. Then half the night driving round the tracks and lanes searching without luck. Up at dawn to day for four more hours searching on foot through all our favourite walks, checking caves old buildings, asking people to look out for him. Then the big dilemma, my wife totally adores this mutt. She is away in a business trip and she calls…do I tell her or not? I decide to be honest, but she freaks over the long distance line. She is devastated that she might have lost another dog and makes valiant attempts not to blame me (but obviously does, with good reason). She is due back home tomorrow.. AND IT IS HER BIRTHDAY...and I have lost her dog! I am history! Hours more searching, only 2 hours sleep in the last 24. Stagger home for a break and the phone rings. Someone has found him several miles away (his number is writ large on his collar). I jump in the car drive like crazy and there he is, sitting in the sun on some stranger's lawn like he owns the place. I restrain myself from beating the shit out of him, and gently coax him into the car, offering profuse thanks to the folks who found him. Then home and a call to Mrs Badger…the dog is safe, I will meet her at the airport tomorrow, the birthday celebrations are back on and the so is the marriage! Yup, cosmicbadger got out of jail today...big time.
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That sounds like a harrowing few days. Ugh, I can't imagine looking and looking, with your Lady freaking out as well. Congrats!! & give the dog finders a big hug. Hope ya'll have a lovely birthday celebration PEACE
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And WHEW all around! It is truly amazing, and not in a good way, how helpless you feel when your dog is lost.
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hallo cb i do nt think at all your story is funny(wonder why my belly hurts),but i had exactly the same experience with my german shephard,just that he does not go after deer,but after cars and since cars dont get tired fast,the search can take days and days.but everytime i find him its this situation. hes laying on some strangers lawn,where they allready love him because hes sooo cute(how can a 90 pounds weighing dog be.eh cute)....cars and deers should be outlawed!hang loose
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thanks for the therapeutic feedback Iknowurider, Marye, Frankly. Its true about that feeling of helplessness! And when combined with crushing guilt it ain't fun! Now the dog is acting like nothing happened, I am shattered and covered in mud, blood and sweat, but mighty relieved!! Got some presents to wrap now :-)
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glad to hear he is no longer depressed!
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now i know why paris hilton has a chiuawua..she is just a lazy fuck."god wheres the dog"-"maybe in the kitchen"......
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since about 10 years ago i started having epileptic seizures,and having had a lot of them i know how it looks like when somebody else starts..!in fact i was in an office waiting for my turn in a room full of people.beside me was an old man who suddenly startetd turning his eyes and to move strangely.the room was crowded with people but everybody just stared..so i went up to this man because i knew he will fall down.and thet happened within seconds,i just could grab him and lay him down in a secure position.With30 people staring at me.after 15 minutes the ambulance came and to my horror started treating the old guy like a drunkard.i told them he was shaking,had cramps..but no interest,just everybody staring quitely.a few days later i met the officemanager who told me that if i wouldnt have helped this old man and he had fallen down it might have killed him.but since this day i still remember this staring people...why so few humans are willing to help their fellow being in need?
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Well after one and a half years my boyfriend Steven Miller proposed to me Dec. 8 2007 at a Cubensis show with Kofi Baker Band (if you get the chance to see either band DO IT they are grate!) at the Malibu Inn.Anyway....we went to dinner at the Charthouse right on the beach. Steve kept trying to drag me down to the beach for a walk, we were in the midst of STORM WATCH a few light clouds with scattered sprinkles. So needless to say it was cold and windy I wanted no part of walking on the beach that night. Off to the show we went, little did I know that Steve had the ring in his pocket this whole time. We set up our shirts for the band and had our little corner of the place and all during the show Steve was a little jumpy, finally when it was Cubensis's set he asked me to go outside with him, we get to the door and he freaks out, It RAINED he says. I am clueless so I say well we are on storm watch after all, then we walk out to the truck and get in for our imbibement for the moment. When we are done (still sitting in the truck) he turns to me and says. I have been thinking and I want to spend the rest of my life with you, I say you have got to be kidding am I really worth all that. He says yes and I can prove it, reaches into his pocket and extends his hand to me with a jewelry box in it. When he opened it I wanted to cry, but trying to be strong I say you really don't mean that, and he says I sure do what is your answer. I say there is no reason to say no! Yes I will marry you! We have set the date for April 26, 2008!. Thank you for reading this I am still excited about it cause I only want to do this once! Steve is the one for me. We met at a Cubensis and Jerry Garcia Band show at 14 Below in Santa Monica, CA. The rest as they say is history or in my case herstory! Have a Grateful Day everyone.
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The last time I saw someone having a Seisure there were already 3 people helping out, but you would expect that at Earthdance, the time before that was in High School, my friend Tim had them and he was 6' 1" and I am all about 5'4" trying to catch him hurt. Out of our whole group that day I was the only one who tried to break his fall, I had been thru it with him before so I knew what was going on. So it was easy for me to jump in and help.It is a sad time for humanity, comraderie and looking out for your fellow man has fallen by the wayside. I feel it is because of the wonders of the internet. You no longer have to face someone to talk to them, therfore no one understands what is going on in reality, like someone having a seisure, or someone in medical need. You can read all you want but experience is where it is really at.