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    So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

    Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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    Think Marye has it right
    What can you do? The amount of freedom that is allowed is important, perhaps more so than the few who are misbehaving. I think Marye strikes a good balance in a difficult situation. Saying that people should only PM one another because of this is an overreaction. Can't stand the heat? Stay out of the chatroom! (Thanks to all kind heads who have tried to lift the vibe there)
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    i believe you're right buddy,......i can only hope i'm not considered part of that group.......though i sure feel like it, sometimes....
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    As far as I remember...
    ... we NEVER used to have these issues (chat room misbehavior, not the software kind) in the chat room. What ever happened? I believe the chat room's demise was the discovery, by a certain group of unpleasant, RUDE people, of our peaceful little place on the inet. So what to do? Well, many of us have decided to stay away, we still PM each other from time to time, but I look at it much the same way as the scene at GD shows after the summer of 1987: There's not a damn thing that can be done to fix it. So I guess if ya don't like it, don't use it.
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    chat room misbehavior, not the software kind
    mod hat on So folks, as you may have noticed I am not inclined to micromanage life in the chat room. There are several reasons for this, but certainly tops on my list would be the fact that, in my experience, it doesn't work. From time to time I get complaints that this person or that is doing something in the chat room that's making someone else unhappy. Or, even better, two people complaining to me about each other. And let's just say that in many cases serious lines have been crossed, and in many cases the heat of the moment was involved, and throwing stones/glass houses/etc. However, let's just say that harassing and abusing one's fellow participants in the chat room, whether by threatening them, serving up hate speech against some group present or absent, showering people with profanity, or otherwise creating a hostile atmosphere, is behavior that puts one on thin ice. Spammers aside, I very, very rarely block people or delete their accounts. I think it's a very extreme step. Nonetheless, making life a misery for other people hereabouts on a sufficiently regular basis to get noticed definitely improves one's odds of being in this select group, to which I would infinitely prefer not to add at all. Thank you and mod hat off. ME
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    Chat Room Nerds Unite.....
    I thought it was all about fun, games, stories & music in the cr.....? Oh, yeh & "whole lotta love"
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    thanks CC critter and CosmicBadger , and you Lamagonzo , and Kristen 10 , you had interesting insights, When GD sang Cassidy , it brought a Krishna Dance, and magik blessings around. The right sounds on whatever could maybe still work wonders ! Maybe , or maybe not anymore ...Time will tell ...
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    man i thought we had got past this
    PPL go in forums and chat. its not one or the other. someones not listening on chat. i have foind alot of love on chat. and i see PPl here slamming PPL on chat for things they have done there selves. maybe could say its easy to judge PPl here without someone standing up to u like on chat. we have all worked there to get a posative vibe going now. not easy but it is what we work 4. can u say that about other chats? we r everywhere and to call us drunks ect... have u been to a greatful dead concert??? lmao! love u all no matter where u post lol PEACE (~);-)
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    to my mind
    it's kind of like ugly parking lot scenes vs. benign ones. CC Joe posted a great tale of Old School Deadheadism a couple years back that's quite resonant with all this. If you cannot lead the bad actors by example, or use white corpuscle effect on them, just walk away and leave them spewing their bad vibes. As noted above, they thrive on your energy.
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    good discussion, folks
    you can't control it. How you deal with it is up to you.
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    After reading some of these posts, I tend to agree with alot that is said, and alot that is implied, and some not so much. One that I'm sure of through being a "chat room nerd" that we are held accountable! Of course there is no "moderator" as there should not be...we as a community should moderate ourselves. Of course we are going to get the slammers, bashers, haters, and non-good lovin people in there, it's the human race. I do know that we as a whole, the good hearted-kind people in this space we call Cyber, have told the offenders flat out to cut it out. After frequenting this place for alot of years, I do know one thing, there is LOVE and KIND people in there....after so long, you can just pick them out. When I say accountability, we have to be able to govern ourselves, and we do...it's a non-contrallable environment, except for the fact that YOU as a person have the power to control your involvement. In fact this reminds me of John Perry Barlow's battles over the interenet he's had since it all began with the EFF.... When you get involved, get involved with your heart and kindness. Negativity, has no place in our community. I love the Grateful Dead....I am not perfect....BUT, I know that my heart is in the right place and that others hear on Dead.net share that heart! _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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Submitted by stuman on Wed, 04/09/2008 - 23:42

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will send some sunshine yor way ,, ( when i see it ) he he ..
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 04:38

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Welcome back!!
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Submitted by Frankly on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 04:50

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so the euopean climate seems to be in order again,Hi stu..Hi Gigi all grateful across the ocean?:-)(-:have a nice day,Frankly
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 04:50

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Hows it going with you today??Have a grate one!! Peace, Gigi :)
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Submitted by Frankly on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 08:58

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i just wait inpatiently for the answer of that guy about the tibet-topic.Congratulations SF really made it look like a comedy,how do you carry a olympic torch through town without meeting anybody hehehe :-)(-:

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Submitted by buddy plant on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 09:06

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I wish a very good day to all! I thought I'd start the day off with a little 5-2-70. Pig is so awesome doin' the Man's World, man made the electric light, oh yeah.... I wonder what James Brown thought of the boys covering his song?
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Submitted by grdaed73 on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 09:17

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hey frankly, i had to search to find any coverage, all small back page articles, except for "WIRED" which had a few stories and video feeds from cell phones at the demostrations, but the torch run was a prank on the masses and took the path less traveled away from news coverage. wonder what kind of deal the chinese govt. made, less lead paint in products made in china?

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Submitted by buddy plant on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 09:41

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... the chinese gov't got exactly what they wanted, they got video of smiling people waving flags and no protesters anywhere in sight to mar their video feeds back home. i hope that after the olympic games are over, people won't forget....
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Submitted by Frankly on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 09:40

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i have that song on a tape as a filler,awesome......maybe James heard it,got mad,beat up his wife ended up in jail,and never talked about it:-)(-:
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Submitted by marye on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 09:59

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On one level, it could reasonably be said that the city did a brilliant job of keeping people from getting hurt, and there's a real sense that that's what cities should do. And on the other hand, yeesh. Wotta mess.
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Submitted by marye on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 10:00

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the torch in Tibet thing is just rude any way you look at it.
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 11:26

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I just got my Hubby Ken to take off from work and we are taking the Harley out for a ride :)See ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Submitted by marye on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 11:32

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Gone are the days when I used to go to shows on the back of my friend Bennett's motorcycle, but they sure were fun.
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Submitted by Frankly on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 12:21

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especially when your goin to hell in a bucket.:-)(-:
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Submitted by grdaed73 on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 12:25

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i was drinking last night with a biker
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Submitted by Frankly on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 12:27

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you didnt show him a picture of me!!!!3:-)(-:
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Submitted by grdaed73 on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 13:01

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to 1978-04-10 Fox Theatre aud. recording, at the end of a beautiful "peggy-o" bob says to the audience "we gonna do another song just as soon as the RED CHINESE quit messin with jerry's brain..... WE KNOW your out there"! love those late 70s drums rolling behind jerry"s lead
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Submitted by reedchris on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 16:34

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Pourquoi le chat est-il si difficile? Tous l'apprecions. Laisse toute marque il juste. Frankly: Ma inspire franchement pour parler le francais encore. Merci beaucoup! Christophe
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Submitted by bevstuff16 on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 16:43

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getting booted out of a chat'room. And this is the first time I've visited! What's up with that? And hey now. Would love to chat with you sometime!
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Submitted by GreenRipple on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 18:18

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checking in to see what's going on ... wow, up to 13 pages in three days. It has taken me some time to read through all the chatter. There seems to be some chatter bugs (figuratively and literally and no punn intended). miss the real time conversations and can't wait until it's back up. I hope it is spectular, not to raise the expectations of returning to a flawless chat room. everyone have good weekend. sorry Chris, I can only get through about 1/4 of the French, something about the chat being difficult and thanks, otherwise I would respond much better. I have a hard enough time speaking english half the time.
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Submitted by stuman on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 18:21

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It is down for maintenence now ,,.. Hope to be repaired soon,,..
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Submitted by c_c on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 20:51

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Chat room schmat room damm it, I wanted to try to get kicked out, but now see the chat room is down for maintenance. and I just wanted to say chat room schmat room! ( -;
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Submitted by TigerLilly on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 23:31

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Ton grammair est un petit peut bizarre :-), mais j'aime bien que tu parles francais ici. Je vais jouer aussi, quand tu veut! Also a favor please, from whoever is willing. My best buddy Martin has a birthday today (11 April) for those of us in different time zones. My present to him is a massive mail campaign of Birthday wishes, from common friends, as well as those unknown to him. I wanna slam his mailbox w/kind thoughts. Anyone willing to help me w/this? If so, send me a pm, and I will give you his e mail address. He is no Deadhead, but a super kind man and a great person. ********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 05:17

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TGIF........ more cowbell!!
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Submitted by Central Statio… on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 06:11

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At the risk of sounding like a heretic, I was wondering...If the Store portion of this web site had issues which disrupted the the use of it, would it have taken this long to resolve them? I can't be the only one for whom question this has come to mind. And yes, this is an unfair question for at least two reasons: 1. I don't believe that the Store uses online chat representatives to assist customers, so it's an "apples and oranges" kind of thing. 2. It's very possible that some of the proceeds from the Store are used to subsidize this Chat Room. I may be biting the hand that feed me here, but hey, if my cat can do it.... Any comments?--assuming this even gets posted ;-) Bobbin' and weavin' Steven

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Submitted by buddy plant on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 09:31

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I think it's a reasonable question, and I too have some thoughts on what you have asked. This is certainly not heresy, you haven't hammered at the foundation of the band, you've just posed some questions to the folks to whom the band has sold some or all of their merchandising rights. I think that if the revenue stream of Dead.net were affected by the same technical issues as the chat feature, it would have been resolved within hours. And yes, the chat room is subsidized by sales, it's a business thing I guess. Having said that, I also feel that the owners of Dead.net don't actually owe it's users a chat feature. It's like the buffet in the casino, it's just something to attract customers. I hope that your questions and suppositions were not taken by the folks who run this site as hurtful or offensive, I see your remarks as a request. Perhaps I would have said something like : "Yo Deadnet, Let's get it in gear and fix the friggin' chat room fer Chrissakes! What are ya waitin' on? The second coming???" But that may be a bit too heretical, YMMV Now after having said all that stuff, I think I'm gonna go roll up a little something. And I think that I should get back on topic, by posing a question of my own: Wouldn't it have been grate if the GD covered "Twist and Shout"?
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 11:58

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what a ride we had yesterday, 3 hours on the harley I love my hubby for taking a day off!!
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Submitted by Ami on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 12:12

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Picnic PMed me to remind me of an old spectrum show with an awesome Why don't we do it in the road into Mississippi 1/2 step... someone refresh my memory which waning after this crazy work week- when were the boys breaking out Hey Jude? I have old tapes somewhere with it and I loved it, just don't remember when, where... is help on the way??? Ami
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Submitted by Hal R on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 12:20

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breakout was 2/11/69. 3/1/69 is on Fillmore 69 box set and is well just pretty awful, so bad it is almost funny, especially after such an amazing show. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Submitted by Mr. Pid on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 12:22

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7 Apr 85, show opener, per deadbase. Personally, I thought the most impressive Beatles cover was Tomorrow Never Knows. Even The Beatles never tried to perform that live. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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Submitted by 00 on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 12:34

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One of the most sensational songs every recorded. The Beatles have some much sound that is not really known. Of the begining (big band) Thanks for sharing this.

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Submitted by buddy plant on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 12:39

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... have heard the Boys cover is the Jackie Wilson chestnut: Higher And Higher (Your Love Keeps Lifting Me) here's a snippet:Your love, liftin' me higher Than I've ever been lifted before So keep it up, quench my desire And I'll be at your side forevermore RIP Jackie, you were the best...
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Submitted by iknowurider on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 13:00

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Mama Told me Not to Come Three Dog Night That's a great song, I can't quote the exact line, but I really like the part that goes something like: Open up the window, sucka Let some air into this room.... Have a grate weekend & take it easy
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Submitted by Ami on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 16:21

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it's just a scratch in the record or a scuff on the CD....Ami
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Submitted by c_c on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 16:26

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pretty cool vid with a nice slide show and cool images here is the list of shows with Hey Jude: (usually the reprise in and out and in of Dear Mr. Fantasy) 02/11/69- Fillmore East - New York City, NY 03/01/69- Fillmore West - San Francisco, CA 09/07/85- Red Rocks Amphitheater - Morrison, CO 03/17/88- Henry J. Kaiser Auditorium - Oakland, CA 03/31/88- Meadowlands Arena - East Rutherford, NJ 04/04/88- Hartford Civic Center - Hartford, CT 04/09/88- The Centrum - Worcester, MA 04/15/88- Rosemont Horizon - Rosemont, IL 04/23/88- Irvine Meadows Ampitheatre - Irvine, CA 06/26/88- Pittsburgh Civic Arena - Pittsburgh, PA 07/03/88- Oxford Plains Speedway - Oxford, ME 09/08/88- The Spectrum - Philadelphia, PA 09/16/88- Madison Square Garden - New York City, NY 09/22/88- Madison Square Garden - New York City, NY 10/14/88- Miami Arena - Miami, FL 10/20/88- The Summit - Houston, TX 12/11/88- Long Beach Arena - Long Beach, CA 04/02/89- Pittsburgh Civic Arena - Pittsburgh, PA 04/08/89- Riverfront Arena - Cincinnati, OH 04/13/89- Rosemont Horizon - Rosemont, IL 07/02/89- Sullivan Stadium - Foxboro, MA 07/18/89- Alpine Valley Music Theater - East Troy, WI 10/09/89- Hampton Coliseum - Hampton, VA 10/19/89- The Spectrum - Philadelphia, PA 12/09/89- Great Western Forum - Inglewood, CA 12/31/89- Oakland Coliseum Arena - Oakland, CA 03/22/90- Copps Coliseum - Hamilton - Ontario, XCanada 04/01/90- The Omni - Atlanta, GA 06/09/90- Cal Expo Amphitheater - Sacramento, CA 07/12/90- Robert F. Kennedy Stadium - Washington DC, DC I remember hearing that Red Rocks tape for the very first time, not knowing what the boys were up to... and a BIG smile on my face when I realized it. thanks, brother Brent.
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 16:34

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Sweet!! I've never seen that before :) Thanks for sharing!
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Submitted by iknowurider on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 16:39

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Okay I didn't say shit, misbehaving & all, but I tried to log in about 8 different times.!! I saw inknowurider on the online list, but still the login/register on my screen. Couldn't comment or anything, ya'll know I like having my 2 sense heard! So anyhoo, here I am, don't ask me how, but the site does not look copecetic on my end. Ground Control To Major Tom: Are you reading this?????
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 16:44

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you are logged on 20 times cool!!!!!!!!!!
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Submitted by reedchris on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 18:25

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I wouldn't worry about it dude. There are so many of you on here that you could blame it on one of your alter egos.
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Submitted by marye on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 19:37

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seems not to be happening now. I just hope ikyr didn't get booted for misbehaving, all 20 of her.
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Submitted by c_c on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 19:38

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everyone is a dude, dude. I remember the daze, going shopping in kind convenience stores, and the clerk would smile and say: 'Thanks, dude. Please come again' and I would say: 'don't 'dude me' dude. and he would say: but, you just 'duded me', dude. and I would say: 'don't 'dude me' dude. and he would say: but, you just 'duded me', dude. and I would say: 'don't 'dude me' dude. and he would say: but, you just 'duded me', dude. and it would go on and on... until the grumblers standing in line behind me would start grumbling even louder. fucking grumblers, can neither take the time to 'dude' another dude. so we are ALL dudes, even the gals, who are also dudes. the term 'du-dette' was just never part of my vocabulary. Please take the time to stop and 'dude' a dude. That is what life is all about, dudes. "don't dude me' dude." "but, you just 'duded me', dude." ( -;