As I Was Saying in the Chat Room

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April 8, 2008 - 1:15pm

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marye

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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...
Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving.

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February 2, 2010 - 9:45pm

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mona

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hey

vvhat johnman said :)
February 2, 2010 - 4:39pm

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JackstrawfromC…

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My experience

With chat rooms and not necessarily at dead.net is that the people who are shady i.e. pose threats are in fact juveniles in the 10-12 year old range. It doesn't mean there isn't a more sinister plot going on too but the majority are kids being stupid. After watching what they write for awhile it is painfully obvious what their age is.. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
February 2, 2010 - 3:58pm

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marye

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yeah

the logging thing is available to one and all. But the fact that people are getting into the chatroom without logging onto Dead.net is a problem.
February 1, 2010 - 9:37pm

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cosmicbadger

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some thoughts

Thank you Marye. I am sure everyone appreciates deadnet hosting the Chatroom and as Swan has mentioned, it is not an issue of permanent moderation: in general conflicts have been sorted out pretty quick there. But the lack of security makes it far too easy for those few people with bad intentions to exploit and abuse others. In fact have now discovered just how easy it is to ‘break into’ the chatroom from outside. My understanding is that Gagalive is a free internet Chatroom service that has been embedded in deadnet and that it could be hard for Deadnet to impose its own additional security on it. But I am not an expert on these things. It has also dawned on me that as long as you are logged into the CR you can scroll back through (and therefore copy/paste) all the chat from the moment you logged in. So if you stay anonymously logged on for hours or days from the outside (like some people appear to do) you may be able just to copy everything that has gone on. I was going to do an experiment to test this, but eavesdropping even for a few moments makes me feel really bad, so I won’t. If the chat record has a much shorter life (a few minutes) it might make systematic logging much more hassle. Hope this helps CB
February 1, 2010 - 5:00pm

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Anonymous (not verified)

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may i suggest ideas about chatroom's safety

for sure i want this chat room to keep going , and want topics to be discussed without " politically correct " restrains about opinions . The real urgency , methinks, is about safety settings in 3 easy steps ; 1) anyone wanting access to chatroom must be fist logged in at dead.net and 2) must first be a registered member with dead.net (with a valid e-mail) , and 3) gagalive/deadnet must install specific settings to not allow access to chatplace by bypassing login and registration at deadnet . These can be practical answers for safety , and to complete this format , a once prior agreement that anyone using chatroom is responsable to never send bugs and viruses at users of dead.net , nonrespect of that clause leading to definite expulsion from dead.net .
February 1, 2010 - 1:53pm

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marye

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guys

I'm reporting this to see if there's anything we can do. I don't want to shut the chat room down, for example, so better to figure out something more reasonable. As many have noted, no, threatening people is not okay, nor is misrepresenting yourself as a Rhino employee (or anyone else) to do so.
January 31, 2010 - 8:34pm

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johnman

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it's with sadness

that i read these posts. i have had good and bad experiences in our chatroom, recently very good things have come my way FROM the chatroom, tickets and a hotel room to be exact, so i know there are still good, loving kind folks there. we don't always hafta agree on certain subjects or topics, and there are some that i intentionally avoid discussing in there because i know we don't all have the same point of view. the one thing we DO share is love for the music. other than prayer, the music has been the one constant in my life that i can turn to when i just can't take it anymore. please, any of you that are thinking about leaving us, please, please reconsider. if we keep enough kind folk in there, and commit to not dragging others down with our personal problems (and yes, i am one of those that is guilty of doing this, not intentionally but the chat is my refuge) mebbe we can outweigh the people who don't love the site as much as we do......badger, i'm gonna miss your kind thoughts and words, hopefully you will still use the forums? i love all of you more than you know....you are my FAMILY!!!
January 30, 2010 - 9:55am

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DancingSingingGirl

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Cosmic Badger KA Swan

Using a photo or scripts from the chatroom to harm others is an awful practice/ game and should not be allowed. I was told that recently, things that I had said, in " Play " an 'Imaginative spacey conversation we were having,' was re-posted elsewhere with some important content changed, someone had changed my words, to cause a very hurtful situation ! I know that this has happened to thers as well. I agree it is slander. We love the chatroom and mostly we love sharing The Grateful Deads Music in there... It should not be a tool, used to harm and manipulate others ! play on
January 30, 2010 - 8:47am

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stuman

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November 21, 2007

again reasons I DO NOT use chatroom

Badger , swan , frankly you said it all . lets get rid of gagalive and make it a Dead.net MEBERS ONLY thing . I for one do not want to talk to folks who are mean and or just not like minded as we all are . I would be more then happy to come back to the chatroom .
January 30, 2010 - 8:07am

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cosmicbadger

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I am sorry TL and Mona and

I am sorry TL and Mona and Swan and everyone else, but I am not going near that place again until I can be more confident that i) it is reasonably secure ii) people who use it are identifiable and accountable iii) it is not being taken over by hackers iv) our conversations are not being recorded and manipulated and v) my computer is not vulnerable to attack (the consequences would be catastrophic for me) Some or all of the the claims and threats that have been made may very well be utter bullshit. I don’t know enough about computers to know, and I am not sure how these concerns can be addressed by 'toughing it out' from inside the chatroom. Still, there must be other ways to fix this. By hosting the chatroom for the registered members of the site, Deadnet must have some responsibility for its security. Especially since the main protagonist has even claimed that he is an ‘insider’ who works for Rhino!!

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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving.

yeh

and i have have the refer to mod syndrome Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://spanishsunshinedaydream.blogspot.com/ http://www.facebook.com/photos.php?id=633338979 Spanish Jam

We have a chat room? It seems to be down for maintenance every time I go there. Oh well I'll chat here. Looks like Gigi had a grate day selling her old wares. I'm never that lucky. My junk usually is junk. Have a grate day everyone gotta go, my boy is waking up!!!

so without me looking into other forums...

what was the big announcement(s) at the press conference???? Anyone???? Ami

big announcement

was the creation of a Grateful Dead ARchive based on all the stuff Eileen Law saved over the years, at UC Santa Cruz. With regard to the chat room on the test site, I can't even get into the test site at the moment, so I suspect people are working on stuff behind the scenes, but I've emailed Jonathan to see what's up. I am hoping we'll have it up and running (properly!) over here real soon now.

Chatroom

I can't get in the test chatroom either....I can't wait until the new and improved chatroom is up and working!!

Off to the roof terrace

27 4 71 to be played, lets see if i can stand the Beach Boys - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://spanishsunshinedaydream.blogspot.com/ http://www.facebook.com/photos.php?id=633338979 Spanish Jam

thanks

for the update Mary. take care, Ami

Hey 73

How was the show??

fanTANStic

beautiful warm(but not too warm)day, got in about 3:30, tye-dye and stealie shirts everywhere, found spot close to stage to call home. ran into old friend who had actually turned me on to the mule years ago, this was gonna be fun, in time for set chage to "grace potter and the nocturnals",ate some cheerios, That girl can sing and jam, drummer was actually jumping off his seat, good set,stomach growls,ate some morecheerios next up "robert randolth and the family band" sunset was glorious, mountains awash inwaves of purple and grays,finishedcheerios, people cani hear usay yeah! YEAH! like a revival so good,can't wipesmileoffn'feetandarmswon'tstopmoving, now the mule, just WOW! those boys were smokin, half wat thru set grace came out and sang "take me to the river" oh wash me down inlightcolorsandsound, ahhh gettin chilly in desert nite air, closed show with "soulshine"and robert randolth joined in on that, hell everyone joined in on that, good time was had by all. so yea IKUR the show was ok:)))

Chat Room?

Wasn't there a chat room at one time? Must be having a flashback, er flashbulb...that's it, flashbulb! I didn't say that, honest :)

no, no

i also remember something like that, but that could just be the price we pay, volunteering for unknown substancial conversations that took place in an empty space of time filled with thoughts seeking fingers to speak words so eyes can hear.ow that hurt!:)

central

I haven't been able to get on the test site for two days. I suspect others are having a similar experience. I don't know what's up but I've reported this to Jonathan.

test site

I have been able to get on the test site ,, however just momentarally..and with great time lags .. so i did`nt stay ,,... : ( nice to know it`s being worked on though,,.... sometimes internet will not rvrn open it ,,.. it`s all good ,,..someones working on it ,,.

yes,same problem

i cannot even get to the test-chat,and if after eternal waiting it open up its doors,than it works veery sloooow:-)(-:

pencils down class

is the test over? will we be graded? if so, will it be on a curve?all seriousness aside,is the ahhh reverse that,is the test phase over?? my grade for the test site; seems to play well with others, no signs of misbehavior, no noticeable lag time except thought2keystroke, participation while sparse at times(mr. pid is away),was great fun once 4-5 others got on, it will be crazy with more folks post rerelease. shhh,wait, did u haer what i just heard, there seems 2b a beat now

pencils down class

While I was away...

One of the things I was testing by being perpetually logged in, even though I was often away, was to insure that I was advised if the boot monster came swarming out of the jungle. Booting always affected all users, so if it happened, it would happen to me too. The good news, of course, is that it didn't happen the entire time the site was up. Obviously there were some changes applied to that environment recently that have caused some other issues, but those issues appear to be affecting that entire site, not just the chat implementation. By and large, I think that most of the chat issues have been remedied, and I'm looking forward to seeing it redeployed here. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

hear ye, hear ye...

as of about five minutes ago, 5:05pm et 4/29, the chat room was working, so if you feel brave...

that would be

the chat room on the test site. The one here is still on hiatus.

Hiatus shmiatus

That is all...

The above post was number 420...

... in this topic! Thank you dead.net, I'm honored, and I will keep on working to maintain this level of "Deadication"

good one buddy

and in your honor i will follow suit! thx 4 being so diligent.

just waiting....

could be any time soon!

Test

just testing to see if this now works Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

deus ex machina?

It appears we have a ghost (ghosts) back in the "ex"perimental prototype new, improved chat room. Folks who are in the chat room see their names appearing more than once. It's no big deal to me...in real life I find I'm beside myself often too. Just thought I'd bring it to the attention of whomever this may concern (or not concern, as the case may be).

thanks, central

I'll pass this along. Lemme know if this persists or it seems to be a temporary glitch.

exit stage left

heavens to mergatrode(?ask snaggle tooth), whats become of the chat, heck it's been 3 days since the last post here(still celebrating hittin' the 420 post:), and no one home back in test site??? Did the release hit a snag, i thought i heard (read) the chatroom was going to open back up to the masses last week?

haven't heard a thing lately

but when I do I'll say so!

exit, stage left! Even

over the past couple of days I have logged on to chat, but no one's home. I think a lot of folks are ready for it to come back to dead.net.

World Cafe' Live Upstairs

Heading out tonight to see Splintered Sunlight,an excellent GD cover band , never been to this venue and I'm looking forward to checking it out! Should be sweet!

sounds just ducky

that rain shouldn't bother a lucky duck, but i hope it clears up for your show, sounds like a good time, i see the girls had fun on prom nite, cool. sounds like they too should have a blast this weekend, tellem that the cops don't need them and they xpect the same. maybe u can use this; (trouble u got in@18yrs x.33 - 2.5yrs = what your kids are doing now) this is my formula i came up with comparing me to me jr.. scary, huh! and how about that vp of yours, bad person talk about higher education! i just got news WSP will be in Flagstaff @end of june:) 2hrs north in the cool pines, must start finagling now:) have a GRATE nite, gratefulmom. peace tc

Chat Room ?

I asume no start yet? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

Chat Room ?

I asume no start yet M? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

bob

u mised an "s", but looks to be a good assumption

Spell Checker not working

more likely my old eyes - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

Hey Bob

I like your new avatar sweet :) It's your kind coffee table You are listening to some grate jams today I love Rickie Lee Jones too!

Back with Phil now

this is a great show - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

Chat Room

still not running then looking forward to it coming back i promise not to misbehave much Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

traffic...crosstown

Sometimes I feel so uninspiredSometimes I feel like giving up Sometimes I feel so very tired Sometimes I feel like I've had enough tire tracks all across my back looks like u had your fun

Grate tune 73

Darlin Can't you see My signals turned From green to red ? And with you I Can see a Traffice Jam Straight up ahead.....

yes they are!

but more the way i'm feeling,wish i had some trafficn'jimi here @ work, i cleared my drive for more dead:) ain't got half of what i thought i had peace

you're Just Like

Crosstown Traffic So hard to get through to You - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

Money

so they sayIs the root of all evil today But if you ask for a rise it's no surprise That they're Giving none away today Roger Waters 73 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

Nice one Bob ~

Money, it's a crime Share it fairly, but don't take a slice of my pie..... I know there are those who don't care for Floyd with Waters, too bad ~ your missing out. He He PEACE RIP Syd

Money, get away

Get a good job with good pay and youre okay.

Roger Waters

would trouble me less if he hadn't so obviously become everything he once lampooned. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

Phil and Bob play first 2 dead albums

> Bob joined Phil and his band last night to play the Dead's first two> albums in full. This was the first of a multi-night run at the > Warfield. Is the discography performance going to continue??? Gotta > get a listen to this show quick. > > "http://www.ibabuzz.com/concerts/2008/05/14/phil-lesh-setlist-and-review/" > > Warfield Theatre, Tuesday, May 12, 2008: > > Wow, what a treat for Deadheads. If you missed the first night of Phil > and Friends' five-night stand at the Warfield, then you really missed > something special. I highly recommend that you try to catch one of the > four remaining shows. Visit www.livenation.com for more details. > > OK, here's the deal. The bassist's band (featuring lead guitarist > Larry Campbell, drummer John Molo, > guitarist-vocalist-multi-instrumentalist Jackie Greene and keyboardist > Steve Molitz - plus special guest, vocalist-guitarist Bob Weir) > performed the Dead's first album (1967's "The Grateful Dead"), from > start to finish, during the first set. Here's the setlist for that set: > > "The Golden Road (To Unlimited Devotion)" > "Beat It on Down the Line" > "Good Morning Little School Girl" > "Cold Rain and Snow" > "Sitting on Top of the World" > "Cream Puff War" > "(Walk Me Out in the) Morning Dew" > "New, New Minglewood Blues" > "Viola Lee Blues" > > Then the group returned and performed the Dead's second album (1968's > "Anthem of the Sun") for the second set. That means these songs: > > That's It for the Other One" > "Cryptical Envelopment" > "Quodlibet for Tenderfeet" > "The Faster We Go, The Rounder We Get" > "We Leave the Castle" > "New Potato Caboose" > "Born Cross-Eyed" > "Alligator" > "Caution (Do Not Stop on Tracks)" > > (The encore, by the way, was "Not Fade Away.") > > So, if Phil stays the course, this could mean that the band will be > performing one Dead album per set for the rest of the run (with the > third album, "Aoxomoxoa," coming in the first set of Wednesday's show > and so forth). That also means that an already hot ticket will get > even hotter. Is there a Deadhead in NorCal who wants to miss a > complete performance of "Workingman's Dead" or "American Beauty"? And > what if Phil decides to include the live albums into the mix? Wouldn't > that be rad to hear "Live/Dead" at the Warfield? > > Unfortunately, it doesn't look like I'll be back to the Warfield for > any of the rest of Phil's run. Thus, I'd really appreciate if someone > would post the setlists of the shows on this blog. Thanks in advance. > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam