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    marye
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    So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

    Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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  • Anonymous (not verified)
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    Think Marye has it right
    What can you do? The amount of freedom that is allowed is important, perhaps more so than the few who are misbehaving. I think Marye strikes a good balance in a difficult situation. Saying that people should only PM one another because of this is an overreaction. Can't stand the heat? Stay out of the chatroom! (Thanks to all kind heads who have tried to lift the vibe there)
  • johnman
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    i believe you're right buddy,......i can only hope i'm not considered part of that group.......though i sure feel like it, sometimes....
  • buddy plant
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    As far as I remember...
    ... we NEVER used to have these issues (chat room misbehavior, not the software kind) in the chat room. What ever happened? I believe the chat room's demise was the discovery, by a certain group of unpleasant, RUDE people, of our peaceful little place on the inet. So what to do? Well, many of us have decided to stay away, we still PM each other from time to time, but I look at it much the same way as the scene at GD shows after the summer of 1987: There's not a damn thing that can be done to fix it. So I guess if ya don't like it, don't use it.
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    chat room misbehavior, not the software kind
    mod hat on So folks, as you may have noticed I am not inclined to micromanage life in the chat room. There are several reasons for this, but certainly tops on my list would be the fact that, in my experience, it doesn't work. From time to time I get complaints that this person or that is doing something in the chat room that's making someone else unhappy. Or, even better, two people complaining to me about each other. And let's just say that in many cases serious lines have been crossed, and in many cases the heat of the moment was involved, and throwing stones/glass houses/etc. However, let's just say that harassing and abusing one's fellow participants in the chat room, whether by threatening them, serving up hate speech against some group present or absent, showering people with profanity, or otherwise creating a hostile atmosphere, is behavior that puts one on thin ice. Spammers aside, I very, very rarely block people or delete their accounts. I think it's a very extreme step. Nonetheless, making life a misery for other people hereabouts on a sufficiently regular basis to get noticed definitely improves one's odds of being in this select group, to which I would infinitely prefer not to add at all. Thank you and mod hat off. ME
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    Chat Room Nerds Unite.....
    I thought it was all about fun, games, stories & music in the cr.....? Oh, yeh & "whole lotta love"
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    OK !
    thanks CC critter and CosmicBadger , and you Lamagonzo , and Kristen 10 , you had interesting insights, When GD sang Cassidy , it brought a Krishna Dance, and magik blessings around. The right sounds on whatever could maybe still work wonders ! Maybe , or maybe not anymore ...Time will tell ...
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    man i thought we had got past this
    PPL go in forums and chat. its not one or the other. someones not listening on chat. i have foind alot of love on chat. and i see PPl here slamming PPL on chat for things they have done there selves. maybe could say its easy to judge PPl here without someone standing up to u like on chat. we have all worked there to get a posative vibe going now. not easy but it is what we work 4. can u say that about other chats? we r everywhere and to call us drunks ect... have u been to a greatful dead concert??? lmao! love u all no matter where u post lol PEACE (~);-)
  • marye
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    to my mind
    it's kind of like ugly parking lot scenes vs. benign ones. CC Joe posted a great tale of Old School Deadheadism a couple years back that's quite resonant with all this. If you cannot lead the bad actors by example, or use white corpuscle effect on them, just walk away and leave them spewing their bad vibes. As noted above, they thrive on your energy.
  • marye
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    good discussion, folks
    you can't control it. How you deal with it is up to you.
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    After reading some of these posts, I tend to agree with alot that is said, and alot that is implied, and some not so much. One that I'm sure of through being a "chat room nerd" that we are held accountable! Of course there is no "moderator" as there should not be...we as a community should moderate ourselves. Of course we are going to get the slammers, bashers, haters, and non-good lovin people in there, it's the human race. I do know that we as a whole, the good hearted-kind people in this space we call Cyber, have told the offenders flat out to cut it out. After frequenting this place for alot of years, I do know one thing, there is LOVE and KIND people in there....after so long, you can just pick them out. When I say accountability, we have to be able to govern ourselves, and we do...it's a non-contrallable environment, except for the fact that YOU as a person have the power to control your involvement. In fact this reminds me of John Perry Barlow's battles over the interenet he's had since it all began with the EFF.... When you get involved, get involved with your heart and kindness. Negativity, has no place in our community. I love the Grateful Dead....I am not perfect....BUT, I know that my heart is in the right place and that others hear on Dead.net share that heart! _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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We have a chat room? It seems to be down for maintenance every time I go there. Oh well I'll chat here. Looks like Gigi had a grate day selling her old wares. I'm never that lucky. My junk usually is junk. Have a grate day everyone gotta go, my boy is waking up!!!
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was the creation of a Grateful Dead ARchive based on all the stuff Eileen Law saved over the years, at UC Santa Cruz. With regard to the chat room on the test site, I can't even get into the test site at the moment, so I suspect people are working on stuff behind the scenes, but I've emailed Jonathan to see what's up. I am hoping we'll have it up and running (properly!) over here real soon now.
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I can't get in the test chatroom either....I can't wait until the new and improved chatroom is up and working!!
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for the update Mary. take care, Ami
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How was the show??
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beautiful warm(but not too warm)day, got in about 3:30, tye-dye and stealie shirts everywhere, found spot close to stage to call home. ran into old friend who had actually turned me on to the mule years ago, this was gonna be fun, in time for set chage to "grace potter and the nocturnals",ate some cheerios, That girl can sing and jam, drummer was actually jumping off his seat, good set,stomach growls,ate some morecheerios next up "robert randolth and the family band" sunset was glorious, mountains awash inwaves of purple and grays,finishedcheerios, people cani hear usay yeah! YEAH! like a revival so good,can't wipesmileoffn'feetandarmswon'tstopmoving, now the mule, just WOW! those boys were smokin, half wat thru set grace came out and sang "take me to the river" oh wash me down inlightcolorsandsound, ahhh gettin chilly in desert nite air, closed show with "soulshine"and robert randolth joined in on that, hell everyone joined in on that, good time was had by all. so yea IKUR the show was ok:)))
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Wasn't there a chat room at one time? Must be having a flashback, er flashbulb...that's it, flashbulb! I didn't say that, honest :)
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i also remember something like that, but that could just be the price we pay, volunteering for unknown substancial conversations that took place in an empty space of time filled with thoughts seeking fingers to speak words so eyes can hear.ow that hurt!:)
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I haven't been able to get on the test site for two days. I suspect others are having a similar experience. I don't know what's up but I've reported this to Jonathan.
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I have been able to get on the test site ,, however just momentarally..and with great time lags .. so i did`nt stay ,,... : ( nice to know it`s being worked on though,,.... sometimes internet will not rvrn open it ,,.. it`s all good ,,..someones working on it ,,.
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i cannot even get to the test-chat,and if after eternal waiting it open up its doors,than it works veery sloooow:-)(-:
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is the test over? will we be graded? if so, will it be on a curve?all seriousness aside,is the ahhh reverse that,is the test phase over?? my grade for the test site; seems to play well with others, no signs of misbehavior, no noticeable lag time except thought2keystroke, participation while sparse at times(mr. pid is away),was great fun once 4-5 others got on, it will be crazy with more folks post rerelease. shhh,wait, did u haer what i just heard, there seems 2b a beat now
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is the test over? will we be graded? if so, will it be on a curve?all seriousness aside,is the ahhh reverse that,is the test phase over?? my grade for the test site; seems to play well with others, no signs of misbehavior, no noticeable lag time except thought2keystroke, participation while sparse at times(mr. pid is away),was great fun once 4-5 others got on, it will be crazy with more folks post rerelease. shhh,wait, did u haer what i just heard, there seems 2b a beat now
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One of the things I was testing by being perpetually logged in, even though I was often away, was to insure that I was advised if the boot monster came swarming out of the jungle. Booting always affected all users, so if it happened, it would happen to me too. The good news, of course, is that it didn't happen the entire time the site was up. Obviously there were some changes applied to that environment recently that have caused some other issues, but those issues appear to be affecting that entire site, not just the chat implementation. By and large, I think that most of the chat issues have been remedied, and I'm looking forward to seeing it redeployed here. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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as of about five minutes ago, 5:05pm et 4/29, the chat room was working, so if you feel brave...
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the chat room on the test site. The one here is still on hiatus.

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... in this topic! Thank you dead.net, I'm honored, and I will keep on working to maintain this level of "Deadication"
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and in your honor i will follow suit! thx 4 being so diligent.
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just testing to see if this now works Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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It appears we have a ghost (ghosts) back in the "ex"perimental prototype new, improved chat room. Folks who are in the chat room see their names appearing more than once. It's no big deal to me...in real life I find I'm beside myself often too. Just thought I'd bring it to the attention of whomever this may concern (or not concern, as the case may be).
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I'll pass this along. Lemme know if this persists or it seems to be a temporary glitch.
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heavens to mergatrode(?ask snaggle tooth), whats become of the chat, heck it's been 3 days since the last post here(still celebrating hittin' the 420 post:), and no one home back in test site??? Did the release hit a snag, i thought i heard (read) the chatroom was going to open back up to the masses last week?
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over the past couple of days I have logged on to chat, but no one's home. I think a lot of folks are ready for it to come back to dead.net.
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Heading out tonight to see Splintered Sunlight,an excellent GD cover band , never been to this venue and I'm looking forward to checking it out! Should be sweet!
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that rain shouldn't bother a lucky duck, but i hope it clears up for your show, sounds like a good time, i see the girls had fun on prom nite, cool. sounds like they too should have a blast this weekend, tellem that the cops don't need them and they xpect the same. maybe u can use this; (trouble u got in@18yrs x.33 - 2.5yrs = what your kids are doing now) this is my formula i came up with comparing me to me jr.. scary, huh! and how about that vp of yours, bad person talk about higher education! i just got news WSP will be in Flagstaff @end of june:) 2hrs north in the cool pines, must start finagling now:) have a GRATE nite, gratefulmom. peace tc
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I asume no start yet? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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I asume no start yet M? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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u mised an "s", but looks to be a good assumption
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I like your new avatar sweet :) It's your kind coffee table You are listening to some grate jams today I love Rickie Lee Jones too!
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this is a great show - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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still not running then looking forward to it coming back i promise not to misbehave much Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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Sometimes I feel so uninspiredSometimes I feel like giving up Sometimes I feel so very tired Sometimes I feel like I've had enough tire tracks all across my back looks like u had your fun
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Darlin Can't you see My signals turned From green to red ? And with you I Can see a Traffice Jam Straight up ahead.....
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but more the way i'm feeling,wish i had some trafficn'jimi here @ work, i cleared my drive for more dead:) ain't got half of what i thought i had peace
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Crosstown Traffic So hard to get through to You - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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so they sayIs the root of all evil today But if you ask for a rise it's no surprise That they're Giving none away today Roger Waters 73 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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Money, it's a crime Share it fairly, but don't take a slice of my pie..... I know there are those who don't care for Floyd with Waters, too bad ~ your missing out. He He PEACE RIP Syd
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Get a good job with good pay and youre okay.
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would trouble me less if he hadn't so obviously become everything he once lampooned. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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> Bob joined Phil and his band last night to play the Dead's first two> albums in full. This was the first of a multi-night run at the > Warfield. Is the discography performance going to continue??? Gotta > get a listen to this show quick. > > "http://www.ibabuzz.com/concerts/2008/05/14/phil-lesh-setlist-and-review/" > > Warfield Theatre, Tuesday, May 12, 2008: > > Wow, what a treat for Deadheads. If you missed the first night of Phil > and Friends' five-night stand at the Warfield, then you really missed > something special. I highly recommend that you try to catch one of the > four remaining shows. Visit www.livenation.com for more details. > > OK, here's the deal. The bassist's band (featuring lead guitarist > Larry Campbell, drummer John Molo, > guitarist-vocalist-multi-instrumentalist Jackie Greene and keyboardist > Steve Molitz - plus special guest, vocalist-guitarist Bob Weir) > performed the Dead's first album (1967's "The Grateful Dead"), from > start to finish, during the first set. Here's the setlist for that set: > > "The Golden Road (To Unlimited Devotion)" > "Beat It on Down the Line" > "Good Morning Little School Girl" > "Cold Rain and Snow" > "Sitting on Top of the World" > "Cream Puff War" > "(Walk Me Out in the) Morning Dew" > "New, New Minglewood Blues" > "Viola Lee Blues" > > Then the group returned and performed the Dead's second album (1968's > "Anthem of the Sun") for the second set. That means these songs: > > That's It for the Other One" > "Cryptical Envelopment" > "Quodlibet for Tenderfeet" > "The Faster We Go, The Rounder We Get" > "We Leave the Castle" > "New Potato Caboose" > "Born Cross-Eyed" > "Alligator" > "Caution (Do Not Stop on Tracks)" > > (The encore, by the way, was "Not Fade Away.") > > So, if Phil stays the course, this could mean that the band will be > performing one Dead album per set for the rest of the run (with the > third album, "Aoxomoxoa," coming in the first set of Wednesday's show > and so forth). That also means that an already hot ticket will get > even hotter. Is there a Deadhead in NorCal who wants to miss a > complete performance of "Workingman's Dead" or "American Beauty"? And > what if Phil decides to include the live albums into the mix? Wouldn't > that be rad to hear "Live/Dead" at the Warfield? > > Unfortunately, it doesn't look like I'll be back to the Warfield for > any of the rest of Phil's run. Thus, I'd really appreciate if someone > would post the setlists of the shows on this blog. Thanks in advance. > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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watching archive.org patiently, it will come soon, meanwhile i'll download the filmore shows, ahh 5-8 just finished and down comes 5-9. hmmm no post from bob 5-11or5-12, were you there,bob? thats a spanish jam!
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They didn't play 11th and unfortunately i wasn't there i have the Fillmore shows, and they are on there way to St louis with the winwood vine Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam