As I Was Saying in the Chat Room

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April 8, 2008 - 1:15pm

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marye

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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...
Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving.

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February 2, 2010 - 9:45pm

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mona

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September 28, 2008

hey

vvhat johnman said :)
February 2, 2010 - 4:39pm

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JackstrawfromC…

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January 2, 2009

My experience

With chat rooms and not necessarily at dead.net is that the people who are shady i.e. pose threats are in fact juveniles in the 10-12 year old range. It doesn't mean there isn't a more sinister plot going on too but the majority are kids being stupid. After watching what they write for awhile it is painfully obvious what their age is.. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
February 2, 2010 - 3:58pm

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marye

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May 26, 2007

yeah

the logging thing is available to one and all. But the fact that people are getting into the chatroom without logging onto Dead.net is a problem.
February 1, 2010 - 9:37pm

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cosmicbadger

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June 13, 2007

some thoughts

Thank you Marye. I am sure everyone appreciates deadnet hosting the Chatroom and as Swan has mentioned, it is not an issue of permanent moderation: in general conflicts have been sorted out pretty quick there. But the lack of security makes it far too easy for those few people with bad intentions to exploit and abuse others. In fact have now discovered just how easy it is to ‘break into’ the chatroom from outside. My understanding is that Gagalive is a free internet Chatroom service that has been embedded in deadnet and that it could be hard for Deadnet to impose its own additional security on it. But I am not an expert on these things. It has also dawned on me that as long as you are logged into the CR you can scroll back through (and therefore copy/paste) all the chat from the moment you logged in. So if you stay anonymously logged on for hours or days from the outside (like some people appear to do) you may be able just to copy everything that has gone on. I was going to do an experiment to test this, but eavesdropping even for a few moments makes me feel really bad, so I won’t. If the chat record has a much shorter life (a few minutes) it might make systematic logging much more hassle. Hope this helps CB
February 1, 2010 - 5:00pm

#285

Anonymous (not verified)

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may i suggest ideas about chatroom's safety

for sure i want this chat room to keep going , and want topics to be discussed without " politically correct " restrains about opinions . The real urgency , methinks, is about safety settings in 3 easy steps ; 1) anyone wanting access to chatroom must be fist logged in at dead.net and 2) must first be a registered member with dead.net (with a valid e-mail) , and 3) gagalive/deadnet must install specific settings to not allow access to chatplace by bypassing login and registration at deadnet . These can be practical answers for safety , and to complete this format , a once prior agreement that anyone using chatroom is responsable to never send bugs and viruses at users of dead.net , nonrespect of that clause leading to definite expulsion from dead.net .
February 1, 2010 - 1:53pm

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marye

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guys

I'm reporting this to see if there's anything we can do. I don't want to shut the chat room down, for example, so better to figure out something more reasonable. As many have noted, no, threatening people is not okay, nor is misrepresenting yourself as a Rhino employee (or anyone else) to do so.
January 31, 2010 - 8:34pm

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johnman

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December 26, 2007

it's with sadness

that i read these posts. i have had good and bad experiences in our chatroom, recently very good things have come my way FROM the chatroom, tickets and a hotel room to be exact, so i know there are still good, loving kind folks there. we don't always hafta agree on certain subjects or topics, and there are some that i intentionally avoid discussing in there because i know we don't all have the same point of view. the one thing we DO share is love for the music. other than prayer, the music has been the one constant in my life that i can turn to when i just can't take it anymore. please, any of you that are thinking about leaving us, please, please reconsider. if we keep enough kind folk in there, and commit to not dragging others down with our personal problems (and yes, i am one of those that is guilty of doing this, not intentionally but the chat is my refuge) mebbe we can outweigh the people who don't love the site as much as we do......badger, i'm gonna miss your kind thoughts and words, hopefully you will still use the forums? i love all of you more than you know....you are my FAMILY!!!
January 30, 2010 - 9:55am

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DancingSingingGirl

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March 5, 2009

Cosmic Badger KA Swan

Using a photo or scripts from the chatroom to harm others is an awful practice/ game and should not be allowed. I was told that recently, things that I had said, in " Play " an 'Imaginative spacey conversation we were having,' was re-posted elsewhere with some important content changed, someone had changed my words, to cause a very hurtful situation ! I know that this has happened to thers as well. I agree it is slander. We love the chatroom and mostly we love sharing The Grateful Deads Music in there... It should not be a tool, used to harm and manipulate others ! play on
January 30, 2010 - 8:47am

#289

stuman

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November 21, 2007

again reasons I DO NOT use chatroom

Badger , swan , frankly you said it all . lets get rid of gagalive and make it a Dead.net MEBERS ONLY thing . I for one do not want to talk to folks who are mean and or just not like minded as we all are . I would be more then happy to come back to the chatroom .
January 30, 2010 - 8:07am

#290

cosmicbadger

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I am sorry TL and Mona and

I am sorry TL and Mona and Swan and everyone else, but I am not going near that place again until I can be more confident that i) it is reasonably secure ii) people who use it are identifiable and accountable iii) it is not being taken over by hackers iv) our conversations are not being recorded and manipulated and v) my computer is not vulnerable to attack (the consequences would be catastrophic for me) Some or all of the the claims and threats that have been made may very well be utter bullshit. I don’t know enough about computers to know, and I am not sure how these concerns can be addressed by 'toughing it out' from inside the chatroom. Still, there must be other ways to fix this. By hosting the chatroom for the registered members of the site, Deadnet must have some responsibility for its security. Especially since the main protagonist has even claimed that he is an ‘insider’ who works for Rhino!!

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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving.

Dylan and the Dead...

thought you all might dig this site: www.howtolistentodylan.com

the dead in a movie in the sixties ....hollywood....vague to me

Someone somewhere in here wrote about a vague memory of the dead being in a movie in the sixties. Well, their vague memory became my vague memory....a couple flashes of the dead in golden tones of light, Jerry's dark beard. I think it was called Petulia with Julie Christie and George C. Scott. I looked it up. Thanks for another "flash from the past" as they used to say on KDIA-AM, the soul of the bay out of Oakland who just kept pumping it out and keeping it real. Dancin' in the Streets

chat room move?

Does anyone know anything about plans to move the chat room back to the main site? Chats are a bit few and far between in the experimental room, since the number of participants is very limited. Looking forward to the change, so everyone who wants to can yak.

Yes, it was Petulia

The Dead make a few appearances. One trippy scene in a club of them playing Viola Lee. Another where Julie Christie is being loaded into an ambulance. Jerry in the backround with, I believe, his captain trips hat on. Jerry pre-beard looking like on the cover of the first official album. Couple more plus some good scenes of SF. It used to run once or twice a year on tv. I would look every sunday in the tv guide section of the paper to see if it was playing that week. This was before cable so it wasnt to difficult to look up channels 2,4,5,7,9,11,13 and a few fuzzy UHF's. Havnt seen it in years now.

yes yes

that sound just like it, thx so much! my son works at hollywood video, i'll have him find it for me. christie and scott huh, i was close :) now, how about that TV apperance? shindig,naw it was countrywestern show. but BIG thanks to you docks of the city and stella blue, you have restored that partitiion of my harddrive:) and that is exactly how i'm seeing garcia looking... as i break out into baba striesand MEM OR REIS from the corne..........

just kiddin'

i can't sing.

Test chat room is gone

I went to check it out and it was gone! I Hope the chatroom comes back soon! I promise to misbehave too, really I do.

gigi, you're scarin' me

It's there right now, though no one's home but me and Mr. Pid's ghost.

Sorry Marye

I wasn't logged in so it wasn't showing chatroom...I scared myself too! LOL! I got in and was all alone with a few ghosts!!

Ghosts

still ghosts then nothing has really changed, except booting Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

Phil and Friends

When I saw them play in Portland at the Crystal Ballroom at the end of January they played many of the same songs the Grateful Dead had played at the 1st show there 40 years ago, did the same thing the next night , repeated much of 2nd show. Did I really read that Bob was playing with Phil for two nights? Nice if that would happen once in a while. I know lots of foks would like to see the remaining four get together. I think it is pretty incredible that there are four bands out touring this year, seeing how this thing continues to eveolve and spawn new sounds. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

Boo!

Sometimes the perceived ghosts are more than they appear. Often they are users who are logged in but are "marked as away," such as me earlier today. There does still seem to be a trivial ghost issue remaining, but I have found that if there is at least one user logged in and there are no posts for about four minutes then any ID's that are actually ghosts will get cleaned up. Outside of that, Chat Room 2.0 (beta) seems pretty well behaved to me. Still have yet to find any evidence of someone being booted. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

Chat Improvement

I think this may enhance our security. I don't know if it works on ghosts, though.

"Missed it by THAT much..."

Phil and Friends

listening to the 13th now amazing caution just started the download of the 14th, no Bobby for the 14th but MK sat in for Live Dead Perhaps Bobby will be back for Working Man's and Beauty. and Mickey for Europe 72 (~):-))) Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

Right, Chief!

Chat room actually has a variation of this, the whisper function. Perhaps one day we'll even all have holographic projection monitors so users can have the plastic bubble appear around them when using it. Thinking about how to code that as I type... Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

I Love Yous Guys

You're a trip, Pid and keep those Phil shows spinnin' Bob! "You know what the trouble about real life is? There's no danger music."

u guys

pid is trippin and bob is spinnin? some things never change.....thankfully

Phil

waiting for the 14th to finish downloading so i can listen to that - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

Phil's setlist last night

1st set - Workingmans2nd set - most of American Beauty enc: Attics and Truckin tonight's special guest(s): David Nelson and Teresa Williams *w/DN +w/TW The band was rockin from the first notes tonight. A full-tilt boogie. set 1: UJB - vox by JG and band *High Time - vox by DN *Dire Wolf - vox by JG *New Speedway - vox by JG *Cumberland - vox by band *Peter - vox by PL *Easy Wind - vox by JG and DN Casey Jones - vox by JG set 2: *Box - vox by PL *FOTD - vox by DN w/LC on fiddle and pedal steel Sugar Mag - vox by JG Operator - vox by PL Candyman - vox by JG *Ripple - vox by DN w/LC on mandolin Brokedown - vox by JG w/LC on fiddle +Till the Morning Comes - vox by TW enc: +Attics - vox by TW, PL and LC w/LC on guitar and no other instruments *Truckin - vox by JG and band It was all good tonight, folks. The first set was absolutely smoking with a hot, snaky Speedway and a sizzling, dizzying Cumberland. Vocals were breathtaking at times with just a few weak spots (Easy Wind). Phil sang as good as I've ever heard him and was impressive on Peter and Operator. In the second act, the whole set was a grin-inducing treat with a monster Sugar Mag, a tender Brokedown and perhaps the best version ever of Attics. Truckin was the perfect way to send us out the door.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

News

stiull no news i s'pose - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

News

stiull no news i s'pose - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

Phil

Phil Lesh & Friends May 18, 2008 Warfield Theater San Francisco, California 1st Set Come Together Dark Star Loose Lucy West L.A. Fadeaway Wheel Not Fade Away On All-Phil Lesh, Bob Weir, John Molo Joining during West. L.A.-Jeff Chimenti, Larry Campbell Set Break Mini Acoustic Set w/Larry Campbell & Jackie Green Deep Elem Blues ????? Good Night Irene 2nd Set Phil Lesh, Larry Campbell, Jackie Greene, Steve Molitz, John Molo Shakedown Street Ball & Chain Big River Mississippi Half-Step (w/Mark Karan) Althea (w/Mark Karan) Mexican Girl Stella Blue (Instrumental Version)> Sugaree Jackie and Tim Bluhm mini set? 3rd Set Balloons Drop From Rafters Sugar Magnolia Unbroken Chain Uncle John's Band Mountains of the Moon Terrapin Station I Know You Rider E: Truckin' And We Bid You Goodnight I don't know if this is correct, just trying to piece it together as I watch also Gdad said that there was an NFA reprise somewhere in there this represents the most complete aetlist to now - I'll be back later- - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

Hey Marye...

If the test chatroom works...why not use it on this site????? I really miss the chatroom :( It was always fun, even when we got the boot!

i feel like a fish

flip floppin' in the bottom of a boat, nobodys there anyhow, not even mr.p incognito(away), and where is buddy? boo hoo, i need a good boot:(

I think

there are a lot of things that have to work together to move it over here. I haven't heard a thing lately, but I'll ask about it.

I think

there are a lot of things that have to work together to move it over here. I haven't heard a thing lately, but I'll ask about it.

couldn't resist,huh!

marye's a double poster too!

just happened to me

I just double posted down the street.

just happened to me

I just double posted down the street.

happened

happened alot yesterday. what I used to do to solve this problem was 'preview comment' first, that also seemed to help avoid getting the mail sent to the spam filter for marye or other admins to allow in. but yesterday even previewing didn't seem to work. let's see NOW...

happened

shucks

shucks, for no apparent reason, I just quadroupled posted. ) -; maybe I will skip the preview option.

shucks

shucks, for no apparent reason, I just quadroupled posted. ) -; maybe I will skip the preview option.

hmmmm

hmmmm... me thinks it be time to log off. peace

yeah...

I emailed with Jonathan about this a bit; it seems to be a function of the servers in the company IT department having their clocks out of sync, but why this keeps happening remains a mystery. At the moment I'm finding the site essentially unusable as well and have multiple posts a go go. On the subject of the chat room: Jonathan says that in theory they're holding off on the big changes here till after they've finished the migration to a new hosting service, but he'll see if he can figure out a way to move the chat room over here sooner. Fingers crossed that I can get this to post...

seems

seems to be working just fine, now. (I'll take famous last words for 400, Alex) only one double post in the garden section, and I think I did that myself by accident.

seems2

test site seems to be missing? it too like the chatroom is down for MAINTAINence, so i think i'll try to double post this.... what do i do now, CCj? preview com....huh!what?