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    marye
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    So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

    Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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    Think Marye has it right
    What can you do? The amount of freedom that is allowed is important, perhaps more so than the few who are misbehaving. I think Marye strikes a good balance in a difficult situation. Saying that people should only PM one another because of this is an overreaction. Can't stand the heat? Stay out of the chatroom! (Thanks to all kind heads who have tried to lift the vibe there)
  • johnman
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    i believe you're right buddy,......i can only hope i'm not considered part of that group.......though i sure feel like it, sometimes....
  • buddy plant
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    As far as I remember...
    ... we NEVER used to have these issues (chat room misbehavior, not the software kind) in the chat room. What ever happened? I believe the chat room's demise was the discovery, by a certain group of unpleasant, RUDE people, of our peaceful little place on the inet. So what to do? Well, many of us have decided to stay away, we still PM each other from time to time, but I look at it much the same way as the scene at GD shows after the summer of 1987: There's not a damn thing that can be done to fix it. So I guess if ya don't like it, don't use it.
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    chat room misbehavior, not the software kind
    mod hat on So folks, as you may have noticed I am not inclined to micromanage life in the chat room. There are several reasons for this, but certainly tops on my list would be the fact that, in my experience, it doesn't work. From time to time I get complaints that this person or that is doing something in the chat room that's making someone else unhappy. Or, even better, two people complaining to me about each other. And let's just say that in many cases serious lines have been crossed, and in many cases the heat of the moment was involved, and throwing stones/glass houses/etc. However, let's just say that harassing and abusing one's fellow participants in the chat room, whether by threatening them, serving up hate speech against some group present or absent, showering people with profanity, or otherwise creating a hostile atmosphere, is behavior that puts one on thin ice. Spammers aside, I very, very rarely block people or delete their accounts. I think it's a very extreme step. Nonetheless, making life a misery for other people hereabouts on a sufficiently regular basis to get noticed definitely improves one's odds of being in this select group, to which I would infinitely prefer not to add at all. Thank you and mod hat off. ME
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    Chat Room Nerds Unite.....
    I thought it was all about fun, games, stories & music in the cr.....? Oh, yeh & "whole lotta love"
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    OK !
    thanks CC critter and CosmicBadger , and you Lamagonzo , and Kristen 10 , you had interesting insights, When GD sang Cassidy , it brought a Krishna Dance, and magik blessings around. The right sounds on whatever could maybe still work wonders ! Maybe , or maybe not anymore ...Time will tell ...
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    man i thought we had got past this
    PPL go in forums and chat. its not one or the other. someones not listening on chat. i have foind alot of love on chat. and i see PPl here slamming PPL on chat for things they have done there selves. maybe could say its easy to judge PPl here without someone standing up to u like on chat. we have all worked there to get a posative vibe going now. not easy but it is what we work 4. can u say that about other chats? we r everywhere and to call us drunks ect... have u been to a greatful dead concert??? lmao! love u all no matter where u post lol PEACE (~);-)
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    to my mind
    it's kind of like ugly parking lot scenes vs. benign ones. CC Joe posted a great tale of Old School Deadheadism a couple years back that's quite resonant with all this. If you cannot lead the bad actors by example, or use white corpuscle effect on them, just walk away and leave them spewing their bad vibes. As noted above, they thrive on your energy.
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    good discussion, folks
    you can't control it. How you deal with it is up to you.
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    After reading some of these posts, I tend to agree with alot that is said, and alot that is implied, and some not so much. One that I'm sure of through being a "chat room nerd" that we are held accountable! Of course there is no "moderator" as there should not be...we as a community should moderate ourselves. Of course we are going to get the slammers, bashers, haters, and non-good lovin people in there, it's the human race. I do know that we as a whole, the good hearted-kind people in this space we call Cyber, have told the offenders flat out to cut it out. After frequenting this place for alot of years, I do know one thing, there is LOVE and KIND people in there....after so long, you can just pick them out. When I say accountability, we have to be able to govern ourselves, and we do...it's a non-contrallable environment, except for the fact that YOU as a person have the power to control your involvement. In fact this reminds me of John Perry Barlow's battles over the interenet he's had since it all began with the EFF.... When you get involved, get involved with your heart and kindness. Negativity, has no place in our community. I love the Grateful Dead....I am not perfect....BUT, I know that my heart is in the right place and that others hear on Dead.net share that heart! _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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Someone somewhere in here wrote about a vague memory of the dead being in a movie in the sixties. Well, their vague memory became my vague memory....a couple flashes of the dead in golden tones of light, Jerry's dark beard. I think it was called Petulia with Julie Christie and George C. Scott. I looked it up. Thanks for another "flash from the past" as they used to say on KDIA-AM, the soul of the bay out of Oakland who just kept pumping it out and keeping it real. Dancin' in the Streets
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Does anyone know anything about plans to move the chat room back to the main site? Chats are a bit few and far between in the experimental room, since the number of participants is very limited. Looking forward to the change, so everyone who wants to can yak.
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The Dead make a few appearances. One trippy scene in a club of them playing Viola Lee. Another where Julie Christie is being loaded into an ambulance. Jerry in the backround with, I believe, his captain trips hat on. Jerry pre-beard looking like on the cover of the first official album. Couple more plus some good scenes of SF. It used to run once or twice a year on tv. I would look every sunday in the tv guide section of the paper to see if it was playing that week. This was before cable so it wasnt to difficult to look up channels 2,4,5,7,9,11,13 and a few fuzzy UHF's. Havnt seen it in years now.
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that sound just like it, thx so much! my son works at hollywood video, i'll have him find it for me. christie and scott huh, i was close :) now, how about that TV apperance? shindig,naw it was countrywestern show. but BIG thanks to you docks of the city and stella blue, you have restored that partitiion of my harddrive:) and that is exactly how i'm seeing garcia looking... as i break out into baba striesand MEM OR REIS from the corne..........
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I went to check it out and it was gone! I Hope the chatroom comes back soon! I promise to misbehave too, really I do.
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It's there right now, though no one's home but me and Mr. Pid's ghost.
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I wasn't logged in so it wasn't showing chatroom...I scared myself too! LOL! I got in and was all alone with a few ghosts!!
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still ghosts then nothing has really changed, except booting Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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When I saw them play in Portland at the Crystal Ballroom at the end of January they played many of the same songs the Grateful Dead had played at the 1st show there 40 years ago, did the same thing the next night , repeated much of 2nd show. Did I really read that Bob was playing with Phil for two nights? Nice if that would happen once in a while. I know lots of foks would like to see the remaining four get together. I think it is pretty incredible that there are four bands out touring this year, seeing how this thing continues to eveolve and spawn new sounds. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Sometimes the perceived ghosts are more than they appear. Often they are users who are logged in but are "marked as away," such as me earlier today. There does still seem to be a trivial ghost issue remaining, but I have found that if there is at least one user logged in and there are no posts for about four minutes then any ID's that are actually ghosts will get cleaned up. Outside of that, Chat Room 2.0 (beta) seems pretty well behaved to me. Still have yet to find any evidence of someone being booted. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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I think this may enhance our security. I don't know if it works on ghosts, though.Photobucket "Missed it by THAT much..."
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listening to the 13th now amazing caution just started the download of the 14th, no Bobby for the 14th but MK sat in for Live Dead Perhaps Bobby will be back for Working Man's and Beauty. and Mickey for Europe 72 (~):-))) Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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Chat room actually has a variation of this, the whisper function. Perhaps one day we'll even all have holographic projection monitors so users can have the plastic bubble appear around them when using it. Thinking about how to code that as I type... Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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You're a trip, Pid and keep those Phil shows spinnin' Bob! "You know what the trouble about real life is? There's no danger music."
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pid is trippin and bob is spinnin? some things never change.....thankfully
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waiting for the 14th to finish downloading so i can listen to that - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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1st set - Workingmans2nd set - most of American Beauty enc: Attics and Truckin tonight's special guest(s): David Nelson and Teresa Williams *w/DN +w/TW The band was rockin from the first notes tonight. A full-tilt boogie. set 1: UJB - vox by JG and band *High Time - vox by DN *Dire Wolf - vox by JG *New Speedway - vox by JG *Cumberland - vox by band *Peter - vox by PL *Easy Wind - vox by JG and DN Casey Jones - vox by JG set 2: *Box - vox by PL *FOTD - vox by DN w/LC on fiddle and pedal steel Sugar Mag - vox by JG Operator - vox by PL Candyman - vox by JG *Ripple - vox by DN w/LC on mandolin Brokedown - vox by JG w/LC on fiddle +Till the Morning Comes - vox by TW enc: +Attics - vox by TW, PL and LC w/LC on guitar and no other instruments *Truckin - vox by JG and band It was all good tonight, folks. The first set was absolutely smoking with a hot, snaky Speedway and a sizzling, dizzying Cumberland. Vocals were breathtaking at times with just a few weak spots (Easy Wind). Phil sang as good as I've ever heard him and was impressive on Peter and Operator. In the second act, the whole set was a grin-inducing treat with a monster Sugar Mag, a tender Brokedown and perhaps the best version ever of Attics. Truckin was the perfect way to send us out the door.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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stiull no news i s'pose - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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Phil Lesh & Friends May 18, 2008 Warfield Theater San Francisco, California 1st Set Come Together Dark Star Loose Lucy West L.A. Fadeaway Wheel Not Fade Away On All-Phil Lesh, Bob Weir, John Molo Joining during West. L.A.-Jeff Chimenti, Larry Campbell Set Break Mini Acoustic Set w/Larry Campbell & Jackie Green Deep Elem Blues ????? Good Night Irene 2nd Set Phil Lesh, Larry Campbell, Jackie Greene, Steve Molitz, John Molo Shakedown Street Ball & Chain Big River Mississippi Half-Step (w/Mark Karan) Althea (w/Mark Karan) Mexican Girl Stella Blue (Instrumental Version)> Sugaree Jackie and Tim Bluhm mini set? 3rd Set Balloons Drop From Rafters Sugar Magnolia Unbroken Chain Uncle John's Band Mountains of the Moon Terrapin Station I Know You Rider E: Truckin' And We Bid You Goodnight I don't know if this is correct, just trying to piece it together as I watch also Gdad said that there was an NFA reprise somewhere in there this represents the most complete aetlist to now - I'll be back later- - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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If the test chatroom works...why not use it on this site????? I really miss the chatroom :( It was always fun, even when we got the boot!
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flip floppin' in the bottom of a boat, nobodys there anyhow, not even mr.p incognito(away), and where is buddy? boo hoo, i need a good boot:(
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there are a lot of things that have to work together to move it over here. I haven't heard a thing lately, but I'll ask about it.
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there are a lot of things that have to work together to move it over here. I haven't heard a thing lately, but I'll ask about it.
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happened alot yesterday. what I used to do to solve this problem was 'preview comment' first, that also seemed to help avoid getting the mail sent to the spam filter for marye or other admins to allow in. but yesterday even previewing didn't seem to work. let's see NOW...
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happened alot yesterday. what I used to do to solve this problem was 'preview comment' first, that also seemed to help avoid getting the mail sent to the spam filter for marye or other admins to allow in. but yesterday even previewing didn't seem to work. let's see NOW...
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happened alot yesterday. what I used to do to solve this problem was 'preview comment' first, that also seemed to help avoid getting the mail sent to the spam filter for marye or other admins to allow in. but yesterday even previewing didn't seem to work. let's see NOW...
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happened alot yesterday. what I used to do to solve this problem was 'preview comment' first, that also seemed to help avoid getting the mail sent to the spam filter for marye or other admins to allow in. but yesterday even previewing didn't seem to work. let's see NOW...
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shucks, for no apparent reason, I just quadroupled posted. ) -; maybe I will skip the preview option.
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shucks, for no apparent reason, I just quadroupled posted. ) -; maybe I will skip the preview option.
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hmmmm... me thinks it be time to log off. peace
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I emailed with Jonathan about this a bit; it seems to be a function of the servers in the company IT department having their clocks out of sync, but why this keeps happening remains a mystery. At the moment I'm finding the site essentially unusable as well and have multiple posts a go go. On the subject of the chat room: Jonathan says that in theory they're holding off on the big changes here till after they've finished the migration to a new hosting service, but he'll see if he can figure out a way to move the chat room over here sooner. Fingers crossed that I can get this to post...
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seems to be working just fine, now. (I'll take famous last words for 400, Alex) only one double post in the garden section, and I think I did that myself by accident.
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test site seems to be missing? it too like the chatroom is down for MAINTAINence, so i think i'll try to double post this.... what do i do now, CCj? preview com....huh!what?
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Childs play Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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You win again... for the most posts!! Way to go Bob!! Peace, Gigi
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and his multiple posting ablities! yer good, bob. so gigi, u finally caught that slip up, huh! i figured it out while i was listenig to 3-29 and reading your post about the show, i had downloaded both from archive, but for some reason beyond my grasp,3-30 disappers into the i-tunes netherworld, and i did this about halfadozen times trying different things with same results and again 10 minutes ago after ruffling your feathers:), still same result:(. i don't think THEY want me to hear that show....but why?? peace tc
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I noticed yesterday that the experimental chat room is down, and is still down as of about noon edt today. Does anyone have any news about what's happened? Are they getting it ready to move back to the main site? Has it been abducted by aliens (with green cards, of course)? Did somebody walk by the cord and indavertently kick it out of the outlet? The possibilities fairly boggle the mind? Feel free to post your theories.
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I noticed yesterday that the experimental chat room is down, and is still down as of about noon edt today. Does anyone have any news about what's happened? Are they getting it ready to move back to the main site? Has it been abducted by aliens (with green cards, of course)? Did somebody walk by the cord and indavertently kick it out of the outlet? The possibilities fairly boggle the mind! Feel free to post your theories.
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I noticed yesterday that the experimental chat room is down, and is still down as of about noon edt today. Does anyone have any news about what's happened? Are they getting it ready to move back to the main site? Has it been abducted by aliens (with green cards, of course)? Did somebody walk by the cord and indavertently kick it out of the outlet? The possibilities fairly boggle the mind! Feel free to post your theories.