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    marye
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    So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

    Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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    Think Marye has it right
    What can you do? The amount of freedom that is allowed is important, perhaps more so than the few who are misbehaving. I think Marye strikes a good balance in a difficult situation. Saying that people should only PM one another because of this is an overreaction. Can't stand the heat? Stay out of the chatroom! (Thanks to all kind heads who have tried to lift the vibe there)
  • johnman
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    i believe you're right buddy,......i can only hope i'm not considered part of that group.......though i sure feel like it, sometimes....
  • buddy plant
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    As far as I remember...
    ... we NEVER used to have these issues (chat room misbehavior, not the software kind) in the chat room. What ever happened? I believe the chat room's demise was the discovery, by a certain group of unpleasant, RUDE people, of our peaceful little place on the inet. So what to do? Well, many of us have decided to stay away, we still PM each other from time to time, but I look at it much the same way as the scene at GD shows after the summer of 1987: There's not a damn thing that can be done to fix it. So I guess if ya don't like it, don't use it.
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    chat room misbehavior, not the software kind
    mod hat on So folks, as you may have noticed I am not inclined to micromanage life in the chat room. There are several reasons for this, but certainly tops on my list would be the fact that, in my experience, it doesn't work. From time to time I get complaints that this person or that is doing something in the chat room that's making someone else unhappy. Or, even better, two people complaining to me about each other. And let's just say that in many cases serious lines have been crossed, and in many cases the heat of the moment was involved, and throwing stones/glass houses/etc. However, let's just say that harassing and abusing one's fellow participants in the chat room, whether by threatening them, serving up hate speech against some group present or absent, showering people with profanity, or otherwise creating a hostile atmosphere, is behavior that puts one on thin ice. Spammers aside, I very, very rarely block people or delete their accounts. I think it's a very extreme step. Nonetheless, making life a misery for other people hereabouts on a sufficiently regular basis to get noticed definitely improves one's odds of being in this select group, to which I would infinitely prefer not to add at all. Thank you and mod hat off. ME
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    Chat Room Nerds Unite.....
    I thought it was all about fun, games, stories & music in the cr.....? Oh, yeh & "whole lotta love"
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    OK !
    thanks CC critter and CosmicBadger , and you Lamagonzo , and Kristen 10 , you had interesting insights, When GD sang Cassidy , it brought a Krishna Dance, and magik blessings around. The right sounds on whatever could maybe still work wonders ! Maybe , or maybe not anymore ...Time will tell ...
  • mona
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    man i thought we had got past this
    PPL go in forums and chat. its not one or the other. someones not listening on chat. i have foind alot of love on chat. and i see PPl here slamming PPL on chat for things they have done there selves. maybe could say its easy to judge PPl here without someone standing up to u like on chat. we have all worked there to get a posative vibe going now. not easy but it is what we work 4. can u say that about other chats? we r everywhere and to call us drunks ect... have u been to a greatful dead concert??? lmao! love u all no matter where u post lol PEACE (~);-)
  • marye
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    to my mind
    it's kind of like ugly parking lot scenes vs. benign ones. CC Joe posted a great tale of Old School Deadheadism a couple years back that's quite resonant with all this. If you cannot lead the bad actors by example, or use white corpuscle effect on them, just walk away and leave them spewing their bad vibes. As noted above, they thrive on your energy.
  • marye
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    good discussion, folks
    you can't control it. How you deal with it is up to you.
  • Canyon Critter
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    After reading some of these posts, I tend to agree with alot that is said, and alot that is implied, and some not so much. One that I'm sure of through being a "chat room nerd" that we are held accountable! Of course there is no "moderator" as there should not be...we as a community should moderate ourselves. Of course we are going to get the slammers, bashers, haters, and non-good lovin people in there, it's the human race. I do know that we as a whole, the good hearted-kind people in this space we call Cyber, have told the offenders flat out to cut it out. After frequenting this place for alot of years, I do know one thing, there is LOVE and KIND people in there....after so long, you can just pick them out. When I say accountability, we have to be able to govern ourselves, and we do...it's a non-contrallable environment, except for the fact that YOU as a person have the power to control your involvement. In fact this reminds me of John Perry Barlow's battles over the interenet he's had since it all began with the EFF.... When you get involved, get involved with your heart and kindness. Negativity, has no place in our community. I love the Grateful Dead....I am not perfect....BUT, I know that my heart is in the right place and that others hear on Dead.net share that heart! _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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Okay, once was good to say what i had to say, twice is okay for emphasis...but three times??? Nothing's THAT important. Sorry, lol
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yep,our test -toy chat was closed down by a Drupal Alien..sad,sad.....
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in beta-land, anyway... I just busted all the ghosts. Who ya gonna call? Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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Jonathan says the chat room is back! So have fun, folks, and please report any problems here. Thanks!
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thx jonathan and marye, see ya inside the show:) peace tc
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first boot of the new chatroom Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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I feel kind of proud, I just got kicked out for the first time.
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- - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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I think I got kicked out for inactivity... about 5 minutes or so without posting. anyways, there is still a 30 second delay for posts? can't the 'puter specialists remove that delay? or cut it down to 5 seconds. hard to actually 'chat' if there is a delay.
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I think I got kicked out for inactivity... about 5 minutes or so without posting. anyways, there is still a 30 second delay for posts? can't the 'puter specialists remove that delay? or cut it down to 5 seconds. hard to actually 'chat' if there is a delay.
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I think I got kicked out for inactivity... about 5 minutes or so without posting. anyways, there is still a 30 second delay for posts? can't the 'puter specialists remove that delay? or cut it down to 5 seconds. hard to actually 'chat' if there is a delay.
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I think I got kicked out for inactivity... about 5 minutes or so without posting. anyways, there is still a 30 second delay for posts? can't the 'puter specialists remove that delay? or cut it down to 5 seconds. hard to actually 'chat' if there is a delay.
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I wonder if the chat room, would in effect, replace the usual forum, and the number of posts would drop significantly... but the chat room still seems a bit too sporadic and full of hinky delays at the moment me thinks. peace.
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I wonder if the chat room, would in effect, replace the usual forum, and the number of posts would drop significantly... but the chat room still seems a bit too sporadic and full of hinky delays at the moment me thinks. peace.
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let's keep an eye on the situation. I see the duplicate post bug is alive and well, so there may be underlying issues. The whole site is about to migrate to a new hosting service, which may take care of some of the weird behavior. Or introduce a fresh crop....
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plenty of that here - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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I just got kicked out too, having arrived to find half a dozen people ostensibly there and none of them there for real. I've reported this to Jonathan. Sorry, folks.
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Hey, there's trouble brewing on my end of the chat, anyone else?
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chat room freezes every thing n i have to reboot wierdthought it was just me tonight
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Or so it seems ?!? Still better than before. Sometimes I feel like I need a good boot, he he
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Is it still misbehaving? It's been so good lately I've gotten complacent...
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i t s e e m s a l i t t l e s l o o o o w i n t h e n e w c h atr oo m l a t e l y d o n ' t u t h i n k o r d o n ' t u ? ; )
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chatroom is running really sloooooooooooooow today and no one is ever home!
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I've reported to Jonathan that things are not just exactly perfect. Bummer, because it was working great for a while there. Oh well! Thanks for the heads up.
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was slow the other day, too. Tiger Lilly and I were in a kind of Frick and Frack bit, going back and forth between slow private messages and trying to use the chat troom. are you here? are YOU here?... also, this may be, probably, a local issue, but on my old iboook Mac, 2001 version, I can't chat at all. I can see and use the forum,no problemo, but I can't read the chat stuff or write on it. My old lady's 'puter is windows, some old HP piece of shit lap top, but that works fine with chat. is the chat windows only?? seems unfair if so. I'm frigging Steve Jobs over here. ( -:
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Hey folks. Not much time for the chatroom these days but dropping by to say hello. Hope everyone is doing great. Enjoy the summer!
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Where you goin' with that Mac in your hands? Chat works fine with Firefox on linux, so it's certainly not "Windoze Only." The chatroom is heavily dependent on a browser technology called Javascript, though, and if it's been a while since you updated your web browser software then that may be the issue. Just makin' a suggestion, that's all. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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with Firefox, and chat works fine. But a 2001 model might not run something necessary, as mine seems to be at the old end of what the software will run on.
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old dog can't learn those new trix... the only Firefox I ever heard of was a piss poor Clint Eastwood movie, or was it Tommy Cruise... the only Java I know comes from beans. you know, a cup of 'Joe' ( -; seriously, though, not a big deal really to borrow her 'puter, and as I remember, I think I got up to Panther on the Mac software, maybe 3 or 4 years ago, so I am outdated again, because the original version wouldn't run a newer ipod or something like that. thanks for the advice and helpful hints. and once you go Mac, you never go back! what's better than a Mac in your lap? (please fill in the blanks with a sure to be deleted by the moderator POOR TASTE joke) yuk yuk yuk peace.
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as faras i am aware my browser is up to date and Java also i received regular updates, but thye chatroom still has a lag for me a lot of the time Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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the chatroom has had lag issues quite a bit lately, so it's probably not just you!

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I really haven't experienced the "lag time" thing. I think perhaps some of our older members may actually be nodding off at the keyboard. Hence the lag?
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is that how u figured it out buddy? got "ghjk" imprinted on your forehead! :)
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Lag mama lag ..... i can't believe its true lag mama lag ...... what did ya do ........ Good one TC :) Peace
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Everybody's doin' that laaaaaaaaaaaaga. "Where does the time go?"
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is it just me? i get this message saying something about slow script.Peace, The Kid
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how does one go about getting kicked out of the chat?Peace, The Kid
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U must misbehave, or as was noted yesterday in the chat, misbearhave. u must try harder kid, and don't go about, go head first faster furthur
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sorry for the trouble, folks. I've reported it to Jonathan. This is what i get for posting that the chatroom was working.
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i saw that marye! thats like saying i never get pulled over, next thing u know your sitting on the side of the freeway wearing silver bracelets with your dayglo hair hanging around your knees. that never happens to me
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love ur post above grdaed. hehePeace, The Kid
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everytime I go in it freezes and I get kicked off my computer :/
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We were very rudely interrupted today while chatting, with exactly what Gigi said above********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens